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York Hospital parking staff ordered to halt traffic at pedestrian crossing on Wigginton Road


PARKING attendants at York Hospital have been ordered to help ease chronic congestion during work on the site's new multi-storey car park – by repeatedly pressing a pedestrian crossing button.

Kenneth Martindale, 64, said he had been told to stand at the pelican crossing in Wigginton Road and activate the signal to stop traffic, thereby allowing vehicles to leave the site.

He described the situation as “absolute chaos”, with some motorists waiting up to 90 minutes to exit the car park and force their way on to Wigginton Road.

A hospital spokeswoman said waits were not that long, but admitted they had been using the crossing signal to ease the situation at peak hours as a “short-term measure”.

She said although the disruption started last November when work on the hospital’s new car park began, the recent closure of Gillygate had made the problem worse.

She said it had caused serious congestion in Wigginton Road during peak times, meaning there were fewer opportunities for vehicles to enter or leave the hospital site.

“We’ve been working hard to manage the traffic flow on our site,” she said.

“However, our staff are limited as to what they can do as far as traffic on the public highway is concerned.

“On occasion at the peak times, and when there has been a need for vehicles to get off the site quickly, the pedestrian crossing has been used to stop the traffic.

“This would only ever be used when the situation was urgent, and it is clearly a short-term measure.”

She said although the disruption started last November when work on the hospital’s new car park began, the recent closure of Gillygate had made the problem worse.

She said it had caused serious congestion in Wigginton Road during peak times, meaning there were fewer opportunities for vehicles to enter or leave the hospital site.

“We’ve been working hard to manage the traffic flow on our site,” she said. “However, our staff are limited as to what they can do as far as traffic on the public highway is concerned.

“On occasion at the peak times, and when there has been a need for vehicles to get off the site quickly, the pedestrian crossing has been used to stop the traffic.

“This would only ever be used when the situation was urgent, and it is clearly a short-term measure.”

She said the problem had not led to any ambulances being prevented from accessing the hospital’s emergency department, and said prioritising ambulances may have added to the delay for other vehicles.

The hospital is working with City of York Council and local police to try to ease the problem.

The spokeswoman said they were not aware of motorists queuing for more than 40 minutes to leave the hospital, and the difficulties were only between about 3pm and 5.15pm.

She said: “This is probably due to a combination of factors, including schools finishing, people leaving work, visiting time at the hospital and our own staff leaving the site.”

A council spokeswoman said “misuse” of the pedestrian crossing button was not illegal, but said: “We wouldn’t condone anyone doing it for any other reason than for wanting to cross the road.

“If we heard of anyone doing this for any other purpose than to cross the road we would report it to the police, because if motorists realised the crossing was being used in this way, they might start to ignore the lights and that would create safety issues.”

The 420-space multi-storey car park is due to be completed by spring 2011.


‘I was in here the first time for an hour and still didn’t manage to find a space’

VISITORS to York Hospital have spoken of two-hour waits due to the traffic problems.

The Press went to the car park this week during afternoon visiting hours to speak to car park users about the gridlock. One couple, Mr and Mrs James, had come to visit their child who is in the baby unit.

Mrs James said: “My friend has just told me her boyfriend recently dropped her off in the car park at 4.20pm and he texted her at 6.20pm to say he was still in the car park.”

Julie Quick from Malton said: “I think they are doing a good job compared with how it was when they first closed Gillygate.

“The first time was absolutely horrendous. There was no management at all. I was in here the first time for an hour and still didn’t manage to find a space.”

The Press tried the car park for itself, arriving at 3.10pm to meet a small queue on Wigginton Road.

After ten minutes, our reporter was at the barrier to the car park. Without parking, he made his way to the exit, finally emerging back on to Wigginton Road 30 minutes after leaving it.


Visiting advice

• If possible avoid driving on to the site and be dropped off nearby to walk in.

• If people have a choice about when to visit choose the later visiting period, from 6.30pm to 8pm, because by this time congestion has eased.

Comments(25)

pedalling paul says...
9:53am Fri 12 Mar 10

There is a formal cycle route to YDH, from Bootham which runs via Bootham Hospital grounds. Crichton Avenue is being made cycle friendly as part of York's orbital cycle ring route. Design work is in hand to install cycle routes along Wiggington Road, which will link Crichton Avenue with YDH.
So anyone who is capable of getting to the Hospital under their own steam, should seriously consider doing so.

samthedog says...
10:14am Fri 12 Mar 10

you heard it hear first, peddle power ambulances

agabbiecabby says...
10:17am Fri 12 Mar 10

why dont they use there brains , and install a set of temp lights to replace the roundabout, for use at busy times!

Acomblady says...
10:44am Fri 12 Mar 10

obviously you've never driven a distance to see a dying relative - getting time off work is hard enough without traffic and parking problems when you get there. Of course I use the bus for York Hospital but all hospitals need good car parks for those who have to travel. It is too short sighted to say use your bike!

Arblaster says...
10:46am Fri 12 Mar 10

"you heard it hear first, peddle power ambulances..."

No, I heard it hear (sic), first:

http://www.transaid.
org/projects/zambia,
-bicycle-ambulance-p
roject,-sept.-2008-%
E2%80%93-mar.-2009
I don't think 'Pedalling Paul' had this in mind, but it has potential, even in York....

AnEyeForDetail says...
11:21am Fri 12 Mar 10

It ceases to amaze me that people think they have to drive straight to the hospital and park outside. There is a public Pay & Display car park on Wigginton Road which I use opposite the Nestle site - 5 min walk and half the price of the hospital parking. It's ideal and good exercise!!

Silver says...
11:45am Fri 12 Mar 10

AnEyeForDetail wrote:
It ceases to amaze me that people think they have to drive straight to the hospital and park outside. There is a public Pay & Display car park on Wigginton Road which I use opposite the Nestle site - 5 min walk and half the price of the hospital parking. It's ideal and good exercise!!
That or park somewhere down Rose Street and walk. But surely it's illegal to have someone constantly turn on the crossing lights and now they've published it so surely a lot of us are now going to ignore it if we see the parking attendant. If I see him and he's not making the effort to cross the road why should I stop because they're the ones messing about?

Confused Again says...
11:46am Fri 12 Mar 10

Best bet is to get yourself referred to another hospital.
The standard of care is not good and is frankly appaling on the medical wards.
As for the management there, I wouldn't trust them to run a bath never mind a hospital!

Make ill people cycle to hospital, I like it.

jez b says...
12:00pm Fri 12 Mar 10

The mention of the involvement of COYC explains it all in this mess.

TooRad says...
12:25pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Can we stop turning every single story into a car vs bike thing? It's getting dull.
.
Most people who queue at peak times are visiting inpatients.
.
I saw this queue pretty bad t'other day. Traffic was queued up over the bridge past Crichton Avenue end and down to where they are demolishing Rowntrees. That's insane.
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Incidentally, all the residents cars parked at the side of Wigginton Rd opposite the demolition works are absolutely covered in brick dust. Looks terrible. I hope they are holding the demolition company responsible for any damage or cleaning bills.

Silver says...
12:36pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Acomblady wrote:
obviously you've never driven a distance to see a dying relative - getting time off work is hard enough without traffic and parking problems when you get there. Of course I use the bus for York Hospital but all hospitals need good car parks for those who have to travel. It is too short sighted to say use your bike!
That may be true but there are other options for parking. Sure it'll mean a 5 minute walk but is you're going to go see a dying relative 5 minutes compared to seeing them is nothing isn't it? I'd be happier as a motorist of people only driving to the hospital car park to drop off a frail/disabled person or having to goto A&E then forcing all other traffic to stop to let them out. I don't mind letting them out at the roundabout but it's got to be easier if you can avoid parking there?

Acomblady says...
12:50pm Fri 12 Mar 10

You miss my point will a visitor to York drive straight to the hospital or be able to guess where the nearest car park is? Personally when I am well I use the bus - if I need A&E then it is naturally by car or ambulance. York is a confusing city to travel round so please be sensitive to hospital visitors and those attending outpatients

Garrowby Turnoff says...
1:33pm Fri 12 Mar 10

AnEyeForDetail wrote:
It ceases to amaze me that people think they have to drive straight to the hospital and park outside. There is a public Pay & Display car park on Wigginton Road which I use opposite the Nestle site - 5 min walk and half the price of the hospital parking. It's ideal and good exercise!!
It used to be a free car park until the greedy beggars cottoned on!
.
These park and walk car parks are OK if you're healthy, but some people visit hospital 'cos they're sick, believe it or not!

Confused Again says...
3:20pm Fri 12 Mar 10

The best idea would be to move the whole hospital to an out of town location like Elvington or better still the York side of Stamford Bridge, then I could cycle there the next time I break my leg.

Alucard says...
3:51pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Is Mr Kenneth Martindale still working for them after spilling the beans?

pedalling paul says...
5:00pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Confused Again wrote:
The best idea would be to move the whole hospital to an out of town location like Elvington or better still the York side of Stamford Bridge, then I could cycle there the next time I break my leg.
Oh dear oh dear. As if I would suggest that anyone who is ill should pedal to YDH. No, the idea is that visitors, staff and outpatients with minor ailments who are capable of cycling, should consider that option, to help make the most efficient use of road and parking space.
I had to attend for physotherapy after an ankle break. OK so I had to taxi there at first (saving a parking space) but I graduated to bus and finally back to bike.

lornalane says...
5:03pm Fri 12 Mar 10

the traffic problem at the hospital is not just now the streets around the hospital have been used by the hospital staff as a car park for years upper newbough shipton st etc is a car park during the day but the council says there is no problem with traffiC OR PARKING IN THE AREA

the butler says...
7:36pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Get a demand light at the crosswalk, a lit sign indicating parking capacity.
At what stage is the additional parking area?

deathwatch says...
9:03pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Confused Again wrote:
Best bet is to get yourself referred to another hospital.
The standard of care is not good and is frankly appaling on the medical wards.
As for the management there, I wouldn't trust them to run a bath never mind a hospital!

Make ill people cycle to hospital, I like it.
I work on a surgical Ward at York Hospital and our level of care is excellent and the ward clean. It's easy for ignorant scum like you to whinge and moan and tar us all with the same brush. The demands on the service are massive and resources limited. Staff generally work EXTREMELY hard for rubbish pay and have to take a LOT of abuse. People like you are typical of the "I want it all, and I demand it NOW" type. eg: last night one man asked I defer pain relief to an elderly man to get him a cup of tea instead. Vermin...

King Edward says...
9:55pm Fri 12 Mar 10

AnEyeForDetail wrote:
It ceases to amaze me that people think they have to drive straight to the hospital and park outside. There is a public Pay & Display car park on Wigginton Road which I use opposite the Nestle site - 5 min walk and half the price of the hospital parking. It's ideal and good exercise!!
Do you know how many cars are either stolen or broken into by the nearby residents of Clifton? If your collecting someone it's no help, when I've been released from there I've been told not to walk, take the bus or cycle home, so someone has to drive! Try getting a taxi on a Saturday afternoon, it took three calls to three firms and an hour wait last time.

Bemused says...
10:46pm Fri 12 Mar 10

Kenneth Martindale, 64, said he had been told to stand at the pelican crossing in Wigginton Road and activate the signal to stop traffic, thereby allowing vehicles to leave the site.

I hope the police are going to arrest him for unlawful obstruction of the highway, charge him, and take him before the court the next time he does it. And those who have told him to do it.

dodgydave says...
7:11pm Sat 13 Mar 10

agabbiecabby wrote:
why dont they use there brains , and install a set of temp lights to replace the roundabout, for use at busy times!
Well Hello Mr. Pot!....Why don't you use your own? Their...not 'there' brains!

sheps lad says...
7:37pm Sat 13 Mar 10

dodgydave wrote:
agabbiecabby wrote:
why dont they use there brains , and install a set of temp lights to replace the roundabout, for use at busy times!
Well Hello Mr. Pot!....Why don't you use your own? Their...not 'there' brains!
PEDANT!!

old_geezer says...
8:08pm Sat 13 Mar 10

Sheps lad: wats rong with been a pedant? I did'nt get were I am today.

sheps lad says...
10:25am Sun 14 Mar 10

Sorry I meant peasant!


York Hospital car-park attendants have been told to press the button at a pelican crossing to help ease congestion for vehicles travelling from the site into Wigginton Road Vehicles approaching lights on Wigginton Road, near York Hospital

York Hospital car-park attendants have been told to press the button at a pelican crossing to help ease congestion for vehicles travelling from the site into Wigginton Road

Vehicles approaching lights on Wigginton Road, near York Hospital



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