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12:00pm Sunday 7th February 2010
FRESH calls have been made for a controversial cycling scheme on a York road to be ditched.
Plans to extend a joint path for cyclists and pedestrians along a stretch of Beckfield Lane in Acomb are now on hold after residents and groups representing elderly people and those with sight problems claimed it was unnecessary and dangerous.
York’s slice of Cycling City funding would pay for the £285,000 scheme, but now an Acomb councillor has demanded “serious consideration” is given to the idea of abandoning the project.
Coun David Horton’s motion opposing the segregated cycle path along the route between the junctions with Wetherby Road and Ostman Road was passed at last Thursday’s full meeting of City of York Council, where representatives from York Blind and Partially Sighted Society and York Older People’s Assembly outlined how they feared it could threaten pedestrians.
Coun Horton said: “My concern is that it has been developed as a first resort rather than a last resort.
“In engineering terms, it is fairly straightforward, so maybe it has been suggested because York needs to spend its Cycling City money by next April, but I don’t believe the risk to pedestrians has been properly assessed.
“There has only been one minor accident in this area in the last three-and-a-half years and that is not a good enough reason for spending this money – if it was council money, the scheme would never have seen the light of day.”
At the meeting, Coun Steve Galloway, the council’s executive member for city strategy, said: “At least 25 per cent of cyclists are already using the footpath to avoid what they judge to be a dangerous road – many are children.
“The footpath is currently too narrow for this relationship between cyclists and pedestrians to be comfortable or safe. I would expect that the realities of the new cycle path will be less challenging than some fear.”
sun seeker's, acomb york says...
12:52pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Ghost of Oscar Deutsch, York says...
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Vauxhall Viva, York says...
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Taken for a Mug, York says...
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Gresmit, York says...
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petethefeet, York says...
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Mullarkian, York says...
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Silver, York says...
5:10pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Frodo Baggins, Acomb says...
5:20pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Gresmit wrote:Yes please go to Holland Mr Galloway and have a look. You will learn a lot, honestly, and don't worry about the cost, just take it out of the budget you have for Cycle for York. A bit less then to spend on any more of your stupid ideas.
Good to hear that this ridiculous scheme may be shelved and let's hope that common sense prevails. I am all for encouraging cycling, and the creation of cycle tracks where appropriate. However, in this case, it seems like the council randomly chose a road in York without properly thinking about whether it needed a cycle track or not. Beckfield Lane is admittedly a fairly busy road, but it is fairly wide and no different from countless other roads in York which don't currently have a cycle lane. There are many much more deserving cases, like Bishopthorpe Road for example, or Carr Lane in Acomb which has about twice the amount of traffic which Beckfield Lane has. Go to Holland Mr. Galloway, and see how they create a cycling infrastructure which is the envy of the world. You may learn something.
King Edward, Taterville says...
8:38pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Kynnersley, Huntington says...
8:54pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Mullarkian wrote:The idea of a white line on the road is segregate cars from cyclists, however drivers block them when they can't get passed turning vehicles, drive down them and then have then cheek to complain about cyclists on the pavement (which I don't condone), and use them as the giveway line instead of the correct one. PS I am also a car driver
Why do cyclists need a white line on a road to tell them where to cycle? What do they do if they deviate from the cylce lane to overtake a slower bike, do they need 'overtaking' lanes. The whole concept is ludicrous, everyone managed before, and as for putting them on pavements well!
pedalling paul , York says...
9:02pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Frodo Baggins wrote:If we had the same highway rules as Holland, then roadside cycle paths would be very quick and easy to use. Why? Because over there, drivers entering or leaving side roads and accesses must legally give way to cyclists on the roadside path. In this country, cyclists must give way at every side road intersection.
Gresmit wrote: Good to hear that this ridiculous scheme may be shelved and let's hope that common sense prevails. I am all for encouraging cycling, and the creation of cycle tracks where appropriate. However, in this case, it seems like the council randomly chose a road in York without properly thinking about whether it needed a cycle track or not. Beckfield Lane is admittedly a fairly busy road, but it is fairly wide and no different from countless other roads in York which don't currently have a cycle lane. There are many much more deserving cases, like Bishopthorpe Road for example, or Carr Lane in Acomb which has about twice the amount of traffic which Beckfield Lane has. Go to Holland Mr. Galloway, and see how they create a cycling infrastructure which is the envy of the world. You may learn something.Yes please go to Holland Mr Galloway and have a look. You will learn a lot, honestly, and don't worry about the cost, just take it out of the budget you have for Cycle for York. A bit less then to spend on any more of your stupid ideas.
sheps lad, york says...
9:11pm Sun 7 Feb 10
Rhino's Wellies, says...
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MarkyMarkMark, Dringhouses says...
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pedalling paul , York says...
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Dee Bush, York says...
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Ben Guela, Tadcaster |Road says...
11:27am Mon 8 Feb 10
sun seeker's wrote:I fully agree with sun seeker. York Council waste too much of OUR money. Talk about cost-benefit analysis first.
They don't use the cycle path thats already there!!!! Why extend something that wont be used?
addynuff, york says...
11:57am Mon 8 Feb 10
NTS, Heworth says...
12:46pm Mon 8 Feb 10
addynuff wrote:Tried parking near a primary school at around 8.45 am or 15.00? How many of the parents will use the excuse that cycling their children or letting their children cycle themselves to school is too dangerous because they have to use the road, which is made more dangerous by the numbers of parental cars on the road at this time? I assume Carr Junior is no different to any other school in York with this problem. Perhaps by provisionof this off road path might encourage more children/parents to cycle and reduce the numbers of cars in this area of York, thus improving safety and environment
here we go again with pedantic prat quoting government legislation to us.we know that all governing bodies are overrun by the cycling mafia and any chance of sensible discussion has long passed.the likes of d agorne and galloway profess to listen but then just do as they please whilst telling us,as all zealots do,that it is for our own good.how i yearn for the days when adults were treated as such and you had to ride a bike properly on the main road not be given your own little strip.
Zebedee, York says...
2:55pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Get-a-grip, says...
3:41pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Here we go again with pedantic prat quoting government legislation to us. We know that all governing bodies are overrun by the cycling mafia and any chance of sensible discussion has long passed. The likes of d'Agorne and Galloway profess to listen but then just do as they please whilst telling us,as all zealots do,that it is for our own good. How I yearn for the days when adults were treated as such and you had to ride a bike properly on the main road not be given your own little strip.
pedalling paul , York says...
8:26pm Mon 8 Feb 10
Get-a-grip wrote:Pedantic prat eh....I'll have to add that to my name badge, along with all the other epithets that have come my way.....
Here we go again with pedantic prat quoting government legislation to us. We know that all governing bodies are overrun by the cycling mafia and any chance of sensible discussion has long passed. The likes of d'Agorne and Galloway profess to listen but then just do as they please whilst telling us,as all zealots do,that it is for our own good. How I yearn for the days when adults were treated as such and you had to ride a bike properly on the main road not be given your own little strip.Good post
piaggio, york says...
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12:38pm Sun 7 Feb 10