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8:40am Thursday 4th February 2010
Updated: ONE of the biggest and most economically vital developments York has ever seen is finally about to become a reality.
The city’s political leaders have given the green light for a massive £165 million scheme to transform the former Terry’s factory in Bishopthorpe Road into homes for hundreds of people, two hotels, shops, bars and restaurants, creating more than 2,700 jobs.
Developers Grantside are today celebrating winning planning permission, which was secured at a four-and-a-half hour City of York Council planning meeting last night – 18 months after the company’s original scheme was controversially rejected.
Now they are focusing their sights on starting work on the mammoth scheme after one of the most drawn-out planning sagas in York’s history finally came to an end.
In a reversal of fortunes from the original plans, which were unanimously rejected, 14 members of the planning committee voted in favour of the redevelopment.
One member – Labour’s Ken King – opposed Grantside’s plans, while Green councillor Andy D’Agorne abstained.
Committee member Coun Ann Reid said: “I think people will always find fault with something like this, but we need to make a decision now.
“Grantside have listened to our original concerns and have adapted their plans.
There may be concerns about extra traffic, but let us not forget that when the Terry’s site was in use before, there was also extra traffic then.
“We have got to show that York is open for business.”
The lone voice of opposition, Coun King, said: “Like most people, I want to see this development go ahead, but we must get it right.
“I cannot accept this development knowing the traffic problems it would cause."
Jane Hunt, of Yorkshire Forward, welcomed the application.
She said: “Terry’s is in close proximity to York city centre and the railway station and this decision will bring back to life a significant building. Everyone at Yorkshire Forward welcomes the proposals, especially at a time when the region needs to recover from the recession."
Local Labour councillors, who were not on the committee, said they backed redevelopment of the site but were worried about traffic levels.
Coun Dave Merrett said the plans were “incredibly intensive”.
He said: “This is meant to be an attractive, viable site for employers – not one that detracts from a beautiful, historic building.”
Coun Sandy Fraser added: “We still have reservations, chiefly on the traffic we will see from the site."
Speaking at the meeting, Steve Davis, managing director of Grantside, the developer behind the plans, urged the committee to back them.
“This is not merely a revisal but a brand new document from a blank canvas.
“Let’s show that this city is open for business and reinforce the message that this is a great place to live, work and play."
Conservative leader Ian Gillies said: “No application will ever meet all our expectations, but I am impressed by various amendments and hard work by Grantside over the past 18 months to bring forward this revised and improved application."
Liberal Democrat Richard Moore said the new plan was a “far better proposal” than the previous one.
THE man behind the Terry’s redevelopment has spoken of his jubilation and gratitude after his £165 million plans won the backing of York’s councillors.
Steve Davis, managing partner of Grantside, said: “I am absolutely delighted with the result.
“There was a lot of support for the scheme following the extensive public consultation, but we never take anything for granted.
“There has been a lot of hard work to reach this point, and it could not have happened without the input of the public, co-operation of council officers and our own consultant team.
“I would like to thank everyone concerned and look forward to moving the project forward to deliver the vision that has been approved."
Grantside and the council will now finalise section 106 agreement ahead of work starting, to determine what community improvements the firm must fund as part of the planning permission. It is likely that the site will be redeveloped in phases over several years depending upon the prevailing market conditions.
Peter Callaghan, also of Grantside, said previous concerns that had been raised when plans were controversially turned down 18 months ago about traffic congestion, sustainability and conserving parts of the listed buildings had been carefully considered in the revised blueprint.
Planning officers had said the development was “one of the largest and most important regeneration opportunities in the city of York in recent years”. They said the 10.86-hectare site was “an unique opportunity to provide a prestige, employment-led, mixed-use development with the potential to be of considerable significance to the future success of York’s economy”.
BUSINESS bosses and politicians have hailed the Terry’s plans as a sign of York’s economic strength.
Susie Cawood, the York head of Leeds, York and North Yorkshire Chamber of Commerce, said: “York is a fantastic place to do business, and we are delighted that the council planners have shown their commitment to development in the city by granting planning approval for the Terry’s site.
“This development is very important for the future economic success of the city and the decision underlines that York is open for business.”
Andrew Waller, leader of City of York Council, said: “There can be no doubt that York is open for business.
“All eyes have been on this city for this planning decision and it has been a success.
“It is a boost for the city’s economic development in converting Terry’s chocolate factory into a new boost for the 21st century.
“I would like to recognise the determination and hard work from all sides to deliver this fantastic result."
William Derby, chief executive and clerk of York Racecourse, said: “Grantside have done a fantastic job in ensuring that, following approval, Terry’s will work closely with the racecourse."
ak7274, York says...
10:05pm Wed 3 Feb 10
Silver, York says...
10:09pm Wed 3 Feb 10
sun seeker's, acomb york says...
11:59pm Wed 3 Feb 10
Prob, says...
12:01am Thu 4 Feb 10
voiceoreason, strensall says...
1:29am Thu 4 Feb 10
humpty numpty, york says...
8:14am Thu 4 Feb 10
Prob wrote:i almost overdosed on diazapan awaiting the "result" of our knowledgable councils verdict on the Terry developement - get on with it.
Good for Terry. What's he building?
Gresmit, York says...
8:15am Thu 4 Feb 10
leninwasright, york says...
8:31am Thu 4 Feb 10
smudge1, York says...
9:10am Thu 4 Feb 10
Gresmit wrote:Hi Gresmit
I'm all for this development, but a warning to local residents to get prepared for years of misery. It's proposed that the development will take between 5-8 years to complete. Having lived close to a similar size redevelopment a few years ago, I can assure you it will not be pleasant. Not just the noise of piling machines, but the trucks constantly going back and forth and mud on the roads, etc. I hope the developers will manage the project with due consideration.
Garrowby Turnoff, Bishop Wilton says...
9:17am Thu 4 Feb 10
Taken for a Mug, York says...
9:53am Thu 4 Feb 10
sheps lad, york says...
10:16am Thu 4 Feb 10
long distance depressive, out of town says...
11:26am Thu 4 Feb 10
Sun, York says...
11:30am Thu 4 Feb 10
again, york says...
11:45am Thu 4 Feb 10
yorknights, york says...
1:07pm Thu 4 Feb 10
greenmonkey, York says...
1:12pm Thu 4 Feb 10
arthur fowler will return, walford says...
1:22pm Thu 4 Feb 10
TheManWithTheFuManchuMoustache, The Dog House Usually says...
1:50pm Thu 4 Feb 10
greenmonkey wrote:There's a 98% chance that next time a Tory complains about the traffic in Bishopthorpe it will be the shy, retiring John Galvin again. In The York Press. Probably tomorrow.
Next time a Tory complains about the traffic in Bishopthorpe you can point out that the Tories and Lib Dems on the planning committee voted against a proposal to make sure traffic levels are not higher than the predictions in the planning approval. The Labour/Green amendment would have given the council some teeth if traffic gridlock is caused by the development, as they have got for the University expansion programme at Heslington East
Vauxhall Viva, York says...
2:08pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Bishlad, Bishopthorpe says...
2:45pm Thu 4 Feb 10
TheManWithTheFuManchThe shy retiring tory John Galvin was the only person to offer a solution to the traffic problem. It was the Lib Dem Council who wouldn't listen, it is the Lib Dem Council who are strong on words but have no interest in helping to avoid gridlock in Bishopthorpe. I suppose the likes of greenmonkey would have us all in pony and traps, with pack donkeys bringing in supplies daily to the city.
uMoustache wrote:
greenmonkey wrote: Next time a Tory complains about the traffic in Bishopthorpe you can point out that the Tories and Lib Dems on the planning committee voted against a proposal to make sure traffic levels are not higher than the predictions in the planning approval. The Labour/Green amendment would have given the council some teeth if traffic gridlock is caused by the development, as they have got for the University expansion programme at Heslington EastThere's a 98% chance that next time a Tory complains about the traffic in Bishopthorpe it will be the shy, retiring John Galvin again. In The York Press. Probably tomorrow. In the process he will snatch away the record for the most appearances in The Press in a calendar year from John Sentamu.
TheManWithTheFuManchuMoustache, The Dog House Usually says...
2:55pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Bishlad wrote:Oh no he wasn't....
TheManWithTheFuManch uMoustache wrote:The shy retiring tory John Galvin was the only person to offer a solution to the traffic problem. It was the Lib Dem Council who wouldn't listen, it is the Lib Dem Council who are strong on words but have no interest in helping to avoid gridlock in Bishopthorpe. I suppose the likes of greenmonkey would have us all in pony and traps, with pack donkeys bringing in supplies daily to the city.greenmonkey wrote: Next time a Tory complains about the traffic in Bishopthorpe you can point out that the Tories and Lib Dems on the planning committee voted against a proposal to make sure traffic levels are not higher than the predictions in the planning approval. The Labour/Green amendment would have given the council some teeth if traffic gridlock is caused by the development, as they have got for the University expansion programme at Heslington EastThere's a 98% chance that next time a Tory complains about the traffic in Bishopthorpe it will be the shy, retiring John Galvin again. In The York Press. Probably tomorrow. In the process he will snatch away the record for the most appearances in The Press in a calendar year from John Sentamu.
leninwasright, york says...
2:57pm Thu 4 Feb 10
metsa, York says...
3:10pm Thu 4 Feb 10
leninwasright wrote:Hardly a neologism- the OED has the first reference in 1612 and it means simply 'The act of revising or looking over again; a revision, re-examination'. However, it's not exactly a common word- doesn't appear in the archives of the Times, Telegraph or The Guardian. I like to think that Steve Davis is a word lover who consciously decided to enrich the English language by reviving this historic and underused word (although I suspect that this is not the case....)
Just one question: what is a "revisal" ? Something religious; something which fits onto a helmet automatically or simply a neologism ? Write your answers on one side of the paper only. A prize for the best suggestion.
pedalling paul , York says...
5:51pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Garrowby Turnoff, Bishop Wilton says...
6:07pm Thu 4 Feb 10
pedalling paul wrote:If road tax and 3rd party insurance for wobbly, geriatric, no-lights bikers were compulsory I'd consider it. This road tax might go a small way to pay for the cities overelaborate cycle lane construction that costs a fortune. The green excuse for overhyped bike use is on hold due to a 'kin recession!
Please be aware that the Council must weight in the balance, the likelihood of a successful appeal by Grantside, if Planning Consent is refused. If an appeal is successful, the hefty legal costs must be met by us Council Tax payers. The best way to avoid gridlock in Bishopthorpe, is for more of its residents to broaden their transport choices for local journeys. Perhaps the Archbishop can be urged to set an example for them all, by occasionally using two wheels or taking the bus.
Cost Accountant, York says...
7:49pm Thu 4 Feb 10
pedalling paul , York says...
8:58pm Thu 4 Feb 10
Garrowby Turnoff wrote:Local roads are funded from Council Tax. We all pay that. Many cycle lanes are directly funded by the DfT throuh various grant schemes eg Local Transport Plan, Cycling England. York directly spends about £8m a year on upkeep of its roads. From Council Tax, remember! A fraction of this contributes to cycle facilities.
pedalling paul wrote: Please be aware that the Council must weight in the balance, the likelihood of a successful appeal by Grantside, if Planning Consent is refused. If an appeal is successful, the hefty legal costs must be met by us Council Tax payers. The best way to avoid gridlock in Bishopthorpe, is for more of its residents to broaden their transport choices for local journeys. Perhaps the Archbishop can be urged to set an example for them all, by occasionally using two wheels or taking the bus.If road tax and 3rd party insurance for wobbly, geriatric, no-lights bikers were compulsory I'd consider it. This road tax might go a small way to pay for the cities overelaborate cycle lane construction that costs a fortune. The green excuse for overhyped bike use is on hold due to a 'kin recession!
sheps lad, york says...
9:40pm Thu 4 Feb 10
bjc, York says...
9:56pm Thu 4 Feb 10
sheps lad wrote:Oooh' you beat me to it Sheps lad!
Marvelous how a forum about the Terrys site has been hijacked by the two wheels brigade. STICK TO THE SUBJECT. P.S. Congratulations to CYC for making a decision for once!!!
pedalling paul , York says...
10:49pm Thu 4 Feb 10
bjc wrote:......just proffering some advice on avoidance of gridlock. Car sharing, walking and bus patronage will also assist, of course.
sheps lad wrote: Marvelous how a forum about the Terrys site has been hijacked by the two wheels brigade. STICK TO THE SUBJECT. P.S. Congratulations to CYC for making a decision for once!!!Oooh' you beat me to it Sheps lad! Also PP. You may well contribute (ahem) to local roads with your council tax contribution. I pay Car Tax on top of that so I'm entitled to more than you when it comes to the roads but what the chuff has that got to do with Terry's?? Please stop waffling and stay on topic for once.
Vauxhall Viva, York says...
6:42am Fri 5 Feb 10
pedalling paul wrote:Paul Hepworth is UTTER UTTER PONDLIFE
Garrowby Turnoff wrote:Local roads are funded from Council Tax. We all pay that. Many cycle lanes are directly funded by the DfT throuh various grant schemes eg Local Transport Plan, Cycling England. York directly spends about £8m a year on upkeep of its roads. From Council Tax, remember! A fraction of this contributes to cycle facilities. Anyone who is wobbly or geriatric can purchase excellent adult cycle training from City of York Council. york.gov.uk/transpor t/cycling/training/pedalling paul wrote: Please be aware that the Council must weight in the balance, the likelihood of a successful appeal by Grantside, if Planning Consent is refused. If an appeal is successful, the hefty legal costs must be met by us Council Tax payers. The best way to avoid gridlock in Bishopthorpe, is for more of its residents to broaden their transport choices for local journeys. Perhaps the Archbishop can be urged to set an example for them all, by occasionally using two wheels or taking the bus.If road tax and 3rd party insurance for wobbly, geriatric, no-lights bikers were compulsory I'd consider it. This road tax might go a small way to pay for the cities overelaborate cycle lane construction that costs a fortune. The green excuse for overhyped bike use is on hold due to a 'kin recession!
Gresmit, York says...
8:54am Fri 5 Feb 10
smudge1 wrote:Clearly you won't be affected by this development. Why bother coming on the site to quote platitudes my dear.
Gresmit wrote: I'm all for this development, but a warning to local residents to get prepared for years of misery. It's proposed that the development will take between 5-8 years to complete. Having lived close to a similar size redevelopment a few years ago, I can assure you it will not be pleasant. Not just the noise of piling machines, but the trucks constantly going back and forth and mud on the roads, etc. I hope the developers will manage the project with due consideration.Hi Gresmit Have you got out of the wrong side of bed this morning or are you normally this cheery with this type of negative comment ??? Calm down dear its only a building job !! I presume people had to listen to your house being built once ? Think nice thoughts
invisibleman, York says...
12:28pm Fri 5 Feb 10
sheps lad, york says...
5:40pm Fri 5 Feb 10
invisibleman wrote:With tongue firmly in cheek why not take the P. Paul option and buy a bike!!
Am a bit late on this one, the biggest problem for us local residents is going to be parking congestion, which, will inevitably lead to residential parking at a further cost to locals
mystic_genius, Acomb says...
8:04am Mon 8 Feb 10
pedalling paul wrote:A point to consider:
Please be aware that the Council must weight in the balance, the likelihood of a successful appeal by Grantside, if Planning Consent is refused. If an appeal is successful, the hefty legal costs must be met by us Council Tax payers. The best way to avoid gridlock in Bishopthorpe, is for more of its residents to broaden their transport choices for local journeys. Perhaps the Archbishop can be urged to set an example for them all, by occasionally using two wheels or taking the bus.
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bjc, York says...
10:00pm Wed 3 Feb 10