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City of York Council officials advise planners to reject nature conservation application for Derwenthorpe despite support from Dame Judi Dench


Pleas by Dame Judi Dench for the proposed site of a model village to be turned into a nature reserve look set to be rejected by York councillors.

The Oscar-winning actress revealed in September she had been following with great interest the situation at Osbaldwick, where the Joseph Rowntree Foundation has been trying for a decade to build the 540-home Derwenthorpe.

She said in a letter to City of York Council she wanted to support a planning application by anti-Derwenthorpe campaigner Mark Warters, for a change of use of the site to a nature conservation area.

"The preservation of an area so obviously well regarded by the local community, as a nature reserve, is a cause worthy of my support," she said.

But now officers are recommending the planning committee to refuse the application when they meet next week.

In a report, development control officer Billy Wong writes the proposal would have an adverse effect on York's future housing supply, and undermine the Government's objective of providing enough housing to meet needs and demands.

He concedes in a report that there is a shortfall in natural and semi-natural open space in the eastern part of the city's urban area.

However, he adds: “Nevertheless it is not considered that such a shortfall should be addressed by losing a significant housing site in an area considered by the Secretary of State as a sustainable location for housing.”

He said the application had received 12 letters of support, and was also backed by Osbaldwick Parish Council, the Meadlands Area Residents Association, and the York Natural Environment Trust, which said: “This application offers potential benefits for York that go far beyond its immediate parameters.”

MrWarters, who is chairman of Osbaldwick Parish Council, but acted in a personal capacity in lodging the application, which cost him £335 out of his own pocket, said he was not surprised by the recommendations but was surprised to hear from The Press that the matter was being considered next week.

He said he had never received a letter of validation after submitting the application, and had not been informed by the authority it was to be discussed next week, which he thought was discourteous.

An investigation by the European Commission into the way the council allocated the land to the foundation without carrying out a tendering process is still ongoing.

Comments(21)

HeworthSnapper says...
1:55pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Small creatures and birds do not pay council tax, so as a non profit making proposal CYC are bound to try and block it. CYC do what they want anyway, regardless of what gets said. I bet they end up cramming it with social housing and home the undesirables within. That effort will look great short-term, but after a few years the place will be as run down as any other council building/housing.

pedalling paul says...
2:03pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Bit like the badgers on Yes Minister..Hacker was all for throwing protestors off a prospective building site, and calling them various names. Sir Humphrey then revealed that one of the badger lovers was Hacker's daughter.

Soothsayer17 says...
2:17pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Dame Judi is rubbish - bring back Bernard Lee.

santa claus says...
2:25pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Soothsayer17 wrote:
Dame Judi is rubbish - bring back Bernard Lee.
Give us Dame Judi over Galloway and his clowns any day. At least she is a convincing actress, more than can be said for our beloved leaders!!

Henry Swanson says...
2:42pm Wed 9 Dec 09

I dont really see what Judi Dench's involvement really has to do with it???

Yorkfan71 says...
2:44pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Longest headline ever used in an article? As far as the news, some people clearly have too much time on their hands.

Soothsayer17 says...
2:49pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Henry Swanson wrote:
I dont really see what Judi Dench's involvement really has to do with it???
She played "M" in last few Bond flicks.

meme says...
3:26pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Judi Dench is a good actress but why on earth she has any involvement with this and why her name should give any credibility to this application is frankly beyond me. Her involvent is a cheap ploy to try to give the application more credibility when there is no reason for credibility.I didnt know she was an expert on nature reserves but I may be wrong Possibly she is D Bellamys best mate!
This scheme should go ahead. York needs these new homes both affordable and otherwise. There is little enough going on without losing this land also so just get on wqith it as soon as EU are out of the way that is

BL2 says...
4:31pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Possibly due to the fact that she was born in York?!

Anyway, there is a far greater need for green spaces than there is for housing regardless of the ridiculous government "Targets".

ALD says...
4:42pm Wed 9 Dec 09

It is time Mr Waters gave up and accepted that these houses are required and will go ahead. He is costing all the other council tax payers in York a great deal of money.

tonezzzznoddedoff says...
6:06pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Sooner they build here than Germany Beck, why not make that a nature reserve the way that things are going climate wise it'll soon be lake anyway with flocks of geese homing in on it.

Thrasher says...
7:27pm Wed 9 Dec 09

ALD - Please enlighten me as to how Mark Warters is costing York council tax payers a great deal of money?

I'm not aware that he has done anything like closing the Barbican, introducing ftr or cocking up the council office scheme? Now those are all things that cost the council tax payer. Lay the blame for that firmly at the feet of Mr Arrogant himself...GALLOWAY!

Bishlad says...
7:41pm Wed 9 Dec 09

meme wrote:
Judi Dench is a good actress but why on earth she has any involvement with this and why her name should give any credibility to this application is frankly beyond me. Her involvent is a cheap ploy to try to give the application more credibility when there is no reason for credibility.I didnt know she was an expert on nature reserves but I may be wrong Possibly she is D Bellamys best mate! This scheme should go ahead. York needs these new homes both affordable and otherwise. There is little enough going on without losing this land also so just get on wqith it as soon as EU are out of the way that is
Spot on meme.The whole saga has been arrogent nonsense stirred up by a vociferous minority who have no social concsience at all. This proposed housing type is desperately needed in the City because we are facing a serious housing crisis for those who can't afford to buy houses currently available. Perhaps all those that ridicule this proposal will tell us where such houses might be built? and please don't suggest Brown Field sites as the only alternative for such sites in themselves have serious problems.

ALD says...
7:59pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Thrasher. By dragging this whole matter out. Appeals, Green Belt involvement etc, all cost Council employees time and hence money in preparing the case for opposing such involvements.
This is the same set of circumstances in the case of the Barbican which caused the extensive delays as a result of which the boat was missed with regards to the sale of the site regardless of the merits or otherwise of the sale in the first place.
Every delay of any sort cost money.
Not to mention the delay in providing much needed social housing in the City in the case of Derwenthorpe.

TooRad says...
9:09pm Wed 9 Dec 09

Yorkfan71 wrote:
Longest headline ever used in an article? As far as the news, some people clearly have too much time on their hands.
Nope not the longest, clearly you've never read this site on a Saturday...

Thrasher says...
1:03am Thu 10 Dec 09

ALD: I disagree that Mark Warters has done anything other than exercise his right to object to what are ill perceived plans. I could pontificate all day about the politics of social housing. In fact I agree that social housing is needed, not just in York but across the UK, but the need for something doesn't give the right for amateur politicians (Galloway) to ride roughshod with their ill-informed and arrogant plans. The part of York that is earmarked for "Derwenthorpe" is prime green belt land and - forgive me if I sound snobbish - separates Osbaldwick from Tang Hall. The Derwenthorpe estate will do nothing other than provide very nice houses for not-very-nice people. It will be a sink estate within 20 years, such is the way this country is in decline.

Instead of JRF and the like bleating about the need for social housing, why don't they for once stop and consider that for every social housing tenant there is a neighbour? Granted, not all social housing tenants are anti-social but knowing how allocations work there is a great chance that Derwenthorpe residents will be undesirable neighbours and for that alone I applaud Mark Warters. I just wish he's be honest about his concerns and not bring the environment into it.

He doesn't want scum in his neighbourhood just as I and everyone else doesn't.

santa claus says...
8:39am Thu 10 Dec 09

Thrasher wrote:
ALD - Please enlighten me as to how Mark Warters is costing York council tax payers a great deal of money? I'm not aware that he has done anything like closing the Barbican, introducing ftr or cocking up the council office scheme? Now those are all things that cost the council tax payer. Lay the blame for that firmly at the feet of Mr Arrogant himself...GALLOWAY!
Well said, Galloway out!!!

2oldies says...
9:36am Thu 10 Dec 09

I note that The Press again describes Mark Warters as 'anti-Derwenthorpe campaigner'. After his complaint against CYC Councillor Madeleine Kirk regarding her failure to declare a donation in the register of interests held by the council reported in The Press on Mon 7th Dec, he might be advised to check that, as a Parish Councillor, he has registered with CYC his own interest in the anti-Derwenthorpe group Friends of Osbaldwick Meadows.

stardust 2 says...
5:57pm Thu 10 Dec 09

Thresher's comments about "scum, not very nice people, and undesirable neighbours" are very inflammatory. If everyone took this attitude people unable to buy their own homes would be walking the streets. I think this poem by Michael Shenton sums up the situation very succinctly.

Save the sacred green belt!
Don't build a single home,
I want the green belt there
So I can see it when I roam.

I may not roam too often,
I watch TV instead,
But when I do it's to the unspoilt
Countryside I head.

I sometimes have a panic
And then it's back I go
To put my feet up in my cosy
Five-room bungalow.

I like to live in comfort,
And others have that right.
But if they lived in tower blocks
We'd win the green belt fight.

I wouldn't live in one myself,
But I'm a special case;
I need a garden, front and back,
And lots of indoor space.

I need a nice environment,
I need the good clean air;
But those who don't yet have a home -
Well, would they really care?

This island's overcrowded
And housing stocks are small,
So make new dwellings more compact
And buildings extra tall.

The residents can share their flats
With lodgers (just a few),
Thus slowing down the housing spread
Which Prescott says is due.

That's how we'll save the green belt:
We'll keep it building-free.
Preserve it for the ones who care -
The homeowners like me.

Incidentally Derwenthorpe is not green belt.

Bishlad says...
8:19pm Thu 10 Dec 09

Derwenthorpe was designated for housing over 20 years ago by Rydale District Council. I am no lover of the Lib Dems rather the absolut opposite but in this case they have continued what was started by Labour in 2003. The poem by stardust above sums up peoples total selfishness especially the vociferous minority shouting the loudest against the development.

Stevie D says...
9:49pm Thu 10 Dec 09

BL2:
Anyway, there is a far greater need for green spaces than there is for housing regardless of the ridiculous government "Targets"

We're not building houses to meet government targets, we're building them because people need somewhere to live.
.
If people didn't need the houses then developers wouldn't be wanting to build them, because they wouldn't be able to sell them - regardless of what government targets say.


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