World Tourists Attractions withdraws big wheel plan for St George’s Field car park in York

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PLANS for a new big wheel for York have been shelved following widespread protests.

World Tourists Attractions (WTA) has withdrawn its planning application for St George’s Field car park, but said it will be submitting new plans and still wants to return to York.

As reported in The Press last Friday, 226 residents objected to the plans, while North Yorkshire Police said the wheel would distract motorists on the inner ring road, leading to accidents. Environmental officials have also protested.

WTA yesterday withdrew its plans, which would have seen a 60m high wheel installed for three months, “in order to further investigate site-specific issues”.

A spokesman said: “WTA is planning to submit a further planning application for the site in due course and are looking forward to returning to the historic city of York.”

He said the firm had been encouraged by the support shown by City of York Council officials and councillors, the York Retailers’ Forum, North Yorkshire and York Chamber of Commerce, Visit York and other organisations and residents.

Meanwhile, York’s outspoken former leisure chief has again criticised his party’s over the big wheel saga.

Coun Christian Vassie, who condemned the Liberal Democrats’ handling of the issue in January and was subsequently sacked, criticised the decision to allow the application for the St George’s Field site but not North Street gardens.

He said: “I am disappointed, but not surprised, that the application to put a big wheel in this area has raised so many objections.

“It was known that St George’s Field car park had flooded on almost 100 days over the past decade. Compare this with North Street gardens where local residents and businesses were not opposed and where there had been only one flooding event in a decade.”

In January, the council vetoed WTA’s plans to put a wheel next to the Park Inn Hotel in North Street. Coun Vassie slated his party colleagues at the meeting, and was removed from the executive in May.

He said: “I regret that a city that relies on tourism has turned its back on an attraction that had welcomed over a million visitors. This has happened in the middle of the worst recession for decades, when local businesses need all the support they can get.”

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10:37am Wed 15 Jul 09

Bishlad says...

Oh dear here we go again, another shambles. Cllr Vassie it seems is the only Lib Dem with any sense.
When will the so called concerned residents of York realise that we must keep our attractions fresh and innovative if we are to keep our economy in good shape by attracting tourists? Leadership is totally lacking in the corridors of power with a complete lack of vision. So once again the City Fathers have let the moaning minority win. Shame on you
Oh dear here we go again, another shambles. Cllr Vassie it seems is the only Lib Dem with any sense. When will the so called concerned residents of York realise that we must keep our attractions fresh and innovative if we are to keep our economy in good shape by attracting tourists? Leadership is totally lacking in the corridors of power with a complete lack of vision. So once again the City Fathers have let the moaning minority win. Shame on you Bishlad
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10:50am Wed 15 Jul 09

AngryandFrustrated says...

A hurrah for common sense, but WTA just don't get it do they?

"A spokesman said: “WTA is planning to submit a further planning application for the site in due course and are looking forward to returning to the historic city of York.”

Are they trying to turn this into a war of attrition? Make multiple applications until the council finally say yes? Which bit of the objections from the Environment Agency, the Council's own Environmental Officer and the police didn't they understand?

Unless WTA are going to redirect the River Ouse, spend £10,000s on re-routing the ring road or spend £millions on redesigning the flood defences of York, the road will always be there and St Georges Field carpark will always flood. The net result is that the objections will remain the same and in those circumstances, CofYC will never be in a position to grant a planning application.

Wake up and smell the coffee WTA - the NRM don't want you and there is nowhere else suitable in York - if there was, you would have been offered it by now. Go away and leave us alone and take that white monstrosity with you!
A hurrah for common sense, but WTA just don't get it do they? "A spokesman said: “WTA is planning to submit a further planning application for the site in due course and are looking forward to returning to the historic city of York.” Are they trying to turn this into a war of attrition? Make multiple applications until the council finally say yes? Which bit of the objections from the Environment Agency, the Council's own Environmental Officer and the police didn't they understand? Unless WTA are going to redirect the River Ouse, spend £10,000s on re-routing the ring road or spend £millions on redesigning the flood defences of York, the road will always be there and St Georges Field carpark will always flood. The net result is that the objections will remain the same and in those circumstances, CofYC will never be in a position to grant a planning application. Wake up and smell the coffee WTA - the NRM don't want you and there is nowhere else suitable in York - if there was, you would have been offered it by now. Go away and leave us alone and take that white monstrosity with you! AngryandFrustrated
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11:44am Wed 15 Jul 09

Garrowby Turnoff says...

AngryandFrustrated wrote:
A hurrah for common sense, but WTA just don't get it do they? "A spokesman said: “WTA is planning to submit a further planning application for the site in due course and are looking forward to returning to the historic city of York.” Are they trying to turn this into a war of attrition? Make multiple applications until the council finally say yes? Which bit of the objections from the Environment Agency, the Council's own Environmental Officer and the police didn't they understand? Unless WTA are going to redirect the River Ouse, spend £10,000s on re-routing the ring road or spend £millions on redesigning the flood defences of York, the road will always be there and St Georges Field carpark will always flood. The net result is that the objections will remain the same and in those circumstances, CofYC will never be in a position to grant a planning application. Wake up and smell the coffee WTA - the NRM don't want you and there is nowhere else suitable in York - if there was, you would have been offered it by now. Go away and leave us alone and take that white monstrosity with you!
Speak for yourself. Those who rely on tourism for an income want every vestige of attractions exploited to the full in York, the UKs main tourist city outside of "already-got-a-wheel
" London. And, Sheffield has one coming now I read. We're prevaricating whilst others take the initiative!
[quote][p][bold]AngryandFrustrated[/bold] wrote: A hurrah for common sense, but WTA just don't get it do they? "A spokesman said: “WTA is planning to submit a further planning application for the site in due course and are looking forward to returning to the historic city of York.” Are they trying to turn this into a war of attrition? Make multiple applications until the council finally say yes? Which bit of the objections from the Environment Agency, the Council's own Environmental Officer and the police didn't they understand? Unless WTA are going to redirect the River Ouse, spend £10,000s on re-routing the ring road or spend £millions on redesigning the flood defences of York, the road will always be there and St Georges Field carpark will always flood. The net result is that the objections will remain the same and in those circumstances, CofYC will never be in a position to grant a planning application. Wake up and smell the coffee WTA - the NRM don't want you and there is nowhere else suitable in York - if there was, you would have been offered it by now. Go away and leave us alone and take that white monstrosity with you![/p][/quote]Speak for yourself. Those who rely on tourism for an income want every vestige of attractions exploited to the full in York, the UKs main tourist city outside of "already-got-a-wheel " London. And, Sheffield has one coming now I read. We're prevaricating whilst others take the initiative! Garrowby Turnoff
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12:21pm Wed 15 Jul 09

Mother of Hercules says...

Why have it only for 3 months tho or have I misread?

And what was wrong with having it at the NRM?? Suely an agreement can be reached to put it back at it's original site?
Why have it only for 3 months tho or have I misread? And what was wrong with having it at the NRM?? Suely an agreement can be reached to put it back at it's original site? Mother of Hercules
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3:27pm Wed 15 Jul 09

Newlandslad says...

Extremely disappointing but predictable given the flavour of the CYC. I suspect we will NEVER see it's return - a lost opportunity again!
Extremely disappointing but predictable given the flavour of the CYC. I suspect we will NEVER see it's return - a lost opportunity again! Newlandslad
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4:09pm Wed 15 Jul 09

BL2 says...

Oh dear - accusing Coun Vassie of talking sense? ;-)

Many York residents have spoke - and many do not want the Wheel! Keeping attractions fresh is one thing, but putting up gaudy fairground objects is another!
Oh dear - accusing Coun Vassie of talking sense? ;-) Many York residents have spoke - and many do not want the Wheel! Keeping attractions fresh is one thing, but putting up gaudy fairground objects is another! BL2
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5:55pm Wed 15 Jul 09

topumpire1 says...

AngryandFrustrated wrote:
A hurrah for common sense, but WTA just don't get it do they? "A spokesman said: “WTA is planning to submit a further planning application for the site in due course and are looking forward to returning to the historic city of York.” Are they trying to turn this into a war of attrition? Make multiple applications until the council finally say yes? Which bit of the objections from the Environment Agency, the Council's own Environmental Officer and the police didn't they understand? Unless WTA are going to redirect the River Ouse, spend £10,000s on re-routing the ring road or spend £millions on redesigning the flood defences of York, the road will always be there and St Georges Field carpark will always flood. The net result is that the objections will remain the same and in those circumstances, CofYC will never be in a position to grant a planning application. Wake up and smell the coffee WTA - the NRM don't want you and there is nowhere else suitable in York - if there was, you would have been offered it by now. Go away and leave us alone and take that white monstrosity with you!
Speak for yourself, I too feel that York NEEDS WTAs wheel, I do though agre St Georges field IS not the place for it, I do not beleive that the NRM dose not WANT the wheel, as this IS the ideal spot for it, what has the NRM put in the place of the whell? nothing of stature, a funfare roundabout, which is ALSO nothing to do with railways!! (it is not steam, as far as I can see either).It is WTA who do not want the NRM, it is too tight a place to get its cranes & the equipment to, but cYc MUST talk the NRM (if they are luke warm) and WTA where the wheel should go. Planning applications for St Georgies MUST always be rejected, whatever WTA say thay will bring to York for the wheel (Bribes!), Will they pay compo for the first AND every accident which motorists say were caused by the wheel? what will they do when their wheel in inaccessible due to floods on a busy weekend or holiday, demand compo from cYc? The wheel NEEDS to be at the NRM - End of.! BUT York needs a wheel! IF others (sheffield/ Leeds/ Etc.) get one, we will lose tourists to them!!
[quote][p][bold]AngryandFrustrated[/bold] wrote: A hurrah for common sense, but WTA just don't get it do they? "A spokesman said: “WTA is planning to submit a further planning application for the site in due course and are looking forward to returning to the historic city of York.” Are they trying to turn this into a war of attrition? Make multiple applications until the council finally say yes? Which bit of the objections from the Environment Agency, the Council's own Environmental Officer and the police didn't they understand? Unless WTA are going to redirect the River Ouse, spend £10,000s on re-routing the ring road or spend £millions on redesigning the flood defences of York, the road will always be there and St Georges Field carpark will always flood. The net result is that the objections will remain the same and in those circumstances, CofYC will never be in a position to grant a planning application. Wake up and smell the coffee WTA - the NRM don't want you and there is nowhere else suitable in York - if there was, you would have been offered it by now. Go away and leave us alone and take that white monstrosity with you![/p][/quote]Speak for yourself, I too feel that York NEEDS WTAs wheel, I do though agre St Georges field IS not the place for it, I do not beleive that the NRM dose not WANT the wheel, as this IS the ideal spot for it, what has the NRM put in the place of the whell? nothing of stature, a funfare roundabout, which is ALSO nothing to do with railways!! (it is not steam, as far as I can see either).It is WTA who do not want the NRM, it is too tight a place to get its cranes & the equipment to, but cYc MUST talk the NRM (if they are luke warm) and WTA where the wheel should go. Planning applications for St Georgies MUST always be rejected, whatever WTA say thay will bring to York for the wheel (Bribes!), Will they pay compo for the first AND every accident which motorists say were caused by the wheel? what will they do when their wheel in inaccessible due to floods on a busy weekend or holiday, demand compo from cYc? The wheel NEEDS to be at the NRM - End of.! BUT York needs a wheel! IF others (sheffield/ Leeds/ Etc.) get one, we will lose tourists to them!! topumpire1
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7:02pm Wed 15 Jul 09

tgfoy says...

The wheel cannot go back to the NRM, it's planning permission came to an end and the NRM have plans for that area. However there are obvious problems with the wheel going on St Georges field car park. Personally I have always thought the museum gardens were the idea site for the wheel, back in the 80's there was a massive temporary building there for a science exhibition, the footings for which are most likely still there. seems the perfect solution to me.
The wheel cannot go back to the NRM, it's planning permission came to an end and the NRM have plans for that area. However there are obvious problems with the wheel going on St Georges field car park. Personally I have always thought the museum gardens were the idea site for the wheel, back in the 80's there was a massive temporary building there for a science exhibition, the footings for which are most likely still there. seems the perfect solution to me. tgfoy
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8:16pm Wed 15 Jul 09

A taxpayer says...

Excellent tourists stay away from York. We don't all profit from tourism - many of us small businesses suffer as we can't efficiently trade due to high traffic and pedestrian numbers.
Excellent tourists stay away from York. We don't all profit from tourism - many of us small businesses suffer as we can't efficiently trade due to high traffic and pedestrian numbers. A taxpayer
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9:08pm Wed 15 Jul 09

petethefeet says...

York isn't a fairground, nor is it a theme park. It's a living historical City. The majority of visitors who come to York are intelligent people seeking York's history. If you pander to the 'kiss-me-quick' lobby then you will put off some of the more discernable visitors. I know who I prefer.
York isn't a fairground, nor is it a theme park. It's a living historical City. The majority of visitors who come to York are intelligent people seeking York's history. If you pander to the 'kiss-me-quick' lobby then you will put off some of the more discernable visitors. I know who I prefer. petethefeet
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6:55am Thu 16 Jul 09

christopher foyle says...

do we really need this? York is slowly going the way of all other towns with new buildings changing the character/appearence of the city. tourists want our history not a new toy. Some people need to stop sounding like a spoilt child with 'I won't one of those coz he's got one'. Lets REVEL in what makes York unique rather than turn it into another 21st century clone town
do we really need this? York is slowly going the way of all other towns with new buildings changing the character/appearence of the city. tourists want our history not a new toy. Some people need to stop sounding like a spoilt child with 'I won't one of those coz he's got one'. Lets REVEL in what makes York unique rather than turn it into another 21st century clone town christopher foyle
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7:34am Thu 16 Jul 09

LizM says...

Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
AngryandFrustrated wrote:
A hurrah for common sense, but WTA just don't get it do they? "A spokesman said: “WTA is planning to submit a further planning application for the site in due course and are looking forward to returning to the historic city of York.” Are they trying to turn this into a war of attrition? Make multiple applications until the council finally say yes? Which bit of the objections from the Environment Agency, the Council's own Environmental Officer and the police didn't they understand? Unless WTA are going to redirect the River Ouse, spend £10,000s on re-routing the ring road or spend £millions on redesigning the flood defences of York, the road will always be there and St Georges Field carpark will always flood. The net result is that the objections will remain the same and in those circumstances, CofYC will never be in a position to grant a planning application. Wake up and smell the coffee WTA - the NRM don't want you and there is nowhere else suitable in York - if there was, you would have been offered it by now. Go away and leave us alone and take that white monstrosity with you!
Speak for yourself. Those who rely on tourism for an income want every vestige of attractions exploited to the full in York, the UKs main tourist city outside of "already-got-a-wheel

" London. And, Sheffield has one coming now I read. We're prevaricating whilst others take the initiative!
Tourists don't go somewhere because it has a wheel - they may go on it during their visit, but as they've only so much money to spend and a certain length of time to spend it, this wouldn't be spent elsewhere.

Yes, we should be looking at keeping York fresh for visitors, but not at the detriment of the real reason visitors come to York - the history and the architecture. But good point that we should be trying to keep up with the likes of London and Sheffield - can we have a competition standard swimming pool for a start!?!?!?
[quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AngryandFrustrated[/bold] wrote: A hurrah for common sense, but WTA just don't get it do they? "A spokesman said: “WTA is planning to submit a further planning application for the site in due course and are looking forward to returning to the historic city of York.” Are they trying to turn this into a war of attrition? Make multiple applications until the council finally say yes? Which bit of the objections from the Environment Agency, the Council's own Environmental Officer and the police didn't they understand? Unless WTA are going to redirect the River Ouse, spend £10,000s on re-routing the ring road or spend £millions on redesigning the flood defences of York, the road will always be there and St Georges Field carpark will always flood. The net result is that the objections will remain the same and in those circumstances, CofYC will never be in a position to grant a planning application. Wake up and smell the coffee WTA - the NRM don't want you and there is nowhere else suitable in York - if there was, you would have been offered it by now. Go away and leave us alone and take that white monstrosity with you![/p][/quote]Speak for yourself. Those who rely on tourism for an income want every vestige of attractions exploited to the full in York, the UKs main tourist city outside of "already-got-a-wheel " London. And, Sheffield has one coming now I read. We're prevaricating whilst others take the initiative![/p][/quote]Tourists don't go somewhere because it has a wheel - they may go on it during their visit, but as they've only so much money to spend and a certain length of time to spend it, this wouldn't be spent elsewhere. Yes, we should be looking at keeping York fresh for visitors, but not at the detriment of the real reason visitors come to York - the history and the architecture. But good point that we should be trying to keep up with the likes of London and Sheffield - can we have a competition standard swimming pool for a start!?!?!? LizM
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