City of York Council staff ‘shocked and anxious’ after Unison talks on job losses (From York Press)

"We cannot accept wholesale redundancies and service reductions as a mechanism of cutting costs, hidden under the title of efficiencies"

And as a taxpayer neither can I accept my taxes being frittered away on these inefficiencies. The world is changing and people won't accept paying for things that don't deliver value.

To those who are about to be thrust into the big wide world - welcome to reality.

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TCH....HAVE THEY NOT LEARNT ANYTHING FROM THE RECENT BAD PUBLICITY.i know the care sector is just one area possibly under fire,yet again,but it is a crucial part of a dignified society and the only way to ensure people are looked after with dignity and respect is to offer caring,compassionate but also effectively trained,supervised and responsible individuals to do the job.
Cost cutting will lead to agency workers such as we have seen on TV etc cutting corners as they work to quantity not quality and with poor training and minimal wages and incentives.it will all end in tears all around..
Public services are there for the public and not to line pockets.The fact that some local authorities have been less than unscrupulous with our funds should not now have a rebound effect on jo-public

We have a left of centre council. This means there will be quite a few non-jobs that should be targeted for cuts rather than front line services. Unfotunately, the croneyism of the trndy lefties will probably ensure their survival at the expense of the needed.
I recall a vacancy for an Arts Co-ordinator on over 30K (one of 3) advertised while the car park charging furore was in full swing a few years ago.
Perhaps COYC should draw up a list of all job titles & salaries (and breif description in plain english - not councilspeak) to each council tax payer who could then put a cross against those jobs they, as the true paymaster, deem unneccessary. I doubt this will happen unless COYC can skew the questions to suit its purpose though.

Well it's about time, all the times that I have had dealings with York City Council over the years, their left hand doesn't know what their right hand is doing. I bet you could sack half of them and they will still be as efficient, I am talking about the Admin side of the Council. Well done and carry on the good work. Now they might buck their ideas up. Hehehe.

mack wrote:
We have a left of centre council. This means there will be quite a few non-jobs that should be targeted for cuts rather than front line services. Unfotunately, the croneyism of the trndy lefties will probably ensure their survival at the expense of the needed.
I recall a vacancy for an Arts Co-ordinator on over 30K (one of 3) advertised while the car park charging furore was in full swing a few years ago.
Perhaps COYC should draw up a list of all job titles & salaries (and breif description in plain english - not councilspeak) to each council tax payer who could then put a cross against those jobs they, as the true paymaster, deem unneccessary. I doubt this will happen unless COYC can skew the questions to suit its purpose though.

Absolutely right,if the council eliminated a large proportion of highly paid " non essential senior manager jobs" and concentrated on core functions ( which would include health & social care AND Tourism), we the electorate would be far better off. Ask yourself , do you know what your Councillor's views are? If not you share the responsibility of his/her poor decisions.The CoY council "appears" to be run by a cabal of LibDem cronies.We sadly do not have the facilities to check the facts so we need a functional investigative Press to do the job for us.

Well there plans will work very nicely after the general election after the Tories have scrapped the minimum wage as the agency's can move in to the market paying penny's

johnrich37 wrote:

mack wrote: We have a left of centre council. This means there will be quite a few non-jobs that should be targeted for cuts rather than front line services. Unfotunately, the croneyism of the trndy lefties will probably ensure their survival at the expense of the needed. I recall a vacancy for an Arts Co-ordinator on over 30K (one of 3) advertised while the car park charging furore was in full swing a few years ago. Perhaps COYC should draw up a list of all job titles & salaries (and breif description in plain english - not councilspeak) to each council tax payer who could then put a cross against those jobs they, as the true paymaster, deem unneccessary. I doubt this will happen unless COYC can skew the questions to suit its purpose though.

Absolutely right,if the council eliminated a large proportion of highly paid " non essential senior manager jobs" and concentrated on core functions ( which would include health & social care AND Tourism), we the electorate would be far better off. Ask yourself , do you know what your Councillor's views are? If not you share the responsibility of his/her poor decisions.The CoY council "appears" to be run by a cabal of LibDem cronies.We sadly do not have the facilities to check the facts so we need a functional investigative Press to do the job for us.

If you want to know what your councillor's views are, then go to a ward committee meeting and ask. As for a cabal; isn't this what democracy is about ? These people have been voted in, so vote them out if you don't like what's going on. You can't blame party factions for working together, whatever the party; it happens in Westminster and it'll happen wherever people are elected under a party system.

Spider24 wrote:
"We cannot accept wholesale redundancies and service reductions as a mechanism of cutting costs, hidden under the title of efficiencies" And as a taxpayer neither can I accept my taxes being frittered away on these inefficiencies. The world is changing and people won't accept paying for things that don't deliver value. To those who are about to be thrust into the big wide world - welcome to reality.

Typical knee-jerk reaction of the ignorant. If you want a taste of the real world try working for a local authority. After 30 years in the private sector I did for a short while and it wasn't a pretty introduction to what some of my fellow residents are like and how they behave towards those who work for the council.

I trust you are not one of the moronic tendency?

again wrote:

Spider24 wrote: "We cannot accept wholesale redundancies and service reductions as a mechanism of cutting costs, hidden under the title of efficiencies" And as a taxpayer neither can I accept my taxes being frittered away on these inefficiencies. The world is changing and people won't accept paying for things that don't deliver value. To those who are about to be thrust into the big wide world - welcome to reality.

Typical knee-jerk reaction of the ignorant. If you want a taste of the real world try working for a local authority. After 30 years in the private sector I did for a short while and it wasn't a pretty introduction to what some of my fellow residents are like and how they behave towards those who work for the council. I trust you are not one of the moronic tendency?

Oh but I am. I pay handsomely for the services that the council promise and resent it when they don't deliver yet are happy to waste MY money on other things. Just because residents stand up for their rights doesn't give the council the right to be inefficient.

If it's as bad as you suggest then they should encourage more from the private sector to make the move and sort it out.

This is a headline grabbing announcement by Lib Dems - which they hope will show them as a party to cut Admin costs within the Council. Firstly I am not employed by CoYC - however what i would say is unfortunately it will be the lowest paid, front line staff that will be effected by this when in fact it should be the vast number of unnecessary middle management that that this should be directed at and were the largest number of financial savings can be made. In the run up to any elections it is always public sector workers which are targeted unfortunately each time it is front line staff who suffer and not the greedy middle managers.