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York Odeon to reopen within weeks

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IT HAS been a derelict shell for almost three years – but now York’s Odeon cinema is on the verge of reopening.

The owners of the Blossom Street landmark have confirmed work on refurbishing the interior of the 1930s picturehouse has been going on for the last two months.

They hope its new guise will be ready to welcome its first customers next month – creating 25 new jobs in the process.

Kailash Suri, managing director of Reel Cinema (UK) Ltd, which bought the cinema in 2008, said he is due to visit the Grade II-listed, art deco site later this week to run the rule over how the work, none of which affects the building’s facade, is progressing.

If everything goes to plan, the revamp is expected to be completed by June 8 – with a potential reopening date being inked in for the following week, although the name the cinema will operate under has yet to be finalised.

It will initially have three screens – as it did when it closed – with the Odeon name and signs being retained due to the building’s protected status, but Mr Suri says Reel may look at expanding the facilities it offers film-goers once it is back in business.

“As things stand, we are hoping to reopen the cinema next month,” he said.

“We have been working on the site for several months to bring it up to an acceptable standard as it has obviously been closed for some years, so there is a lot of work to do, but if there are no delays between now and June we hope we will be okay with that date.

“We have not been doing any work on the outside of the building, and once we are able to reopen the building we can look at the possibility of putting more screens in and providing more facilities.

“I hope this will be very good news for the people of York and I can say that we are very pleased and excited about the reopening. We want the best for this fascinating building because we are very proud of what we do – it’s not about making money for us.”

Mr Suri said the company was currently fitting new screens, refurbishing seats and putting other infrastructure, such as ticket and refreshment counters and machines, in place, and that 25 full and part-time staff would be employed at the new cinema.

He would not confirm how much Reel was spending on the refit, but said it was a “substantial” sum.

The imminent reopening of the cinema has been highlighted on Reel’s website, which also provides details of how people can get more information of the job opportunities there.

The Odeon closed in August 2006 despite a campaign run by The Press for it to be refurbished and stay open, which was backed by more than 13,000 readers.

Reel agreed to buy the building the following summer and initially said it hoped to reopen the cinema almost immediately prior to a refurbishment programme, but it soon emerged the site was in too poor a condition to be able to open until after the revamp.

Its purchase – for an undisclosed sum – was finally completed in January 2008.


‘A huge undertaking’

THE man in charge of the Odeon revamp said the task of restoring the building to its former glory was “massive” – but is confident it will be finished on schedule.

Graeme Mitchell, Reel Cinema (UK) Ltd’s building director, said painstaking work to preserve the building’s listed features was a major part of the refurbishment exercise, which has a 16-strong team work 12-to-14-hour days to get it completed by next month.

“Given the constraints we have, we are working with conservation officers at City of York Council and we have architects on board who are coming up with the relevant designs as we go along,” he said.

“Our brief is to undertake a sympathetic refurbishment of the building, given that it is art deco in style, and, where possible, we will preserve that image.

“Mr Suri insists on retaining the building’s original features. That is very important to him.

“The exterior of the building is untouchable, right down to the Odeon signage – it will have to be painted, but we must retain the original colours.

“At the moment, it may look like there is still a lot to do, but much of the remaining work is purely a decoration exercise, such as refurbishing toilets and refurbishing other facilities where required.

“The seating capacity will not be reduced – it will be at the original capacity, which is around 1,000 – but all the seating is listed so it has to be upholstered rather than replaced.

“However, the screens will be a new addition as the old ones are damaged, and we expect these to be fitted within the next few weeks. The majority of the preparation has already been done, so we are hopeful of completing it by June 8.”

He said the only parts of the old cinema still in working order were the huge curtains to cover the screens, which date back many years.


A work in progress...

Completed work

• Heating renovation work and installation of two commercial boilers.

• Retubing and repiping many areas, as some of the pipes had rotted and flooded part of the building.

• Removing seating for upholstery.

• Removing old bathroom facilities.

• Stripping old paint in the public areas of the cinema.

• Repairing and replastering the central foyer area.

• Stripping damaged false ceilings.

• Removing and replacing the front of the canopy at the entrance.

Scheduled work

• Decorating the main auditorium and the two other auditoriums and installing three new screens.

• Repairs to the canopy roof at the front of the building.

• Structural repairs to the higher levels of the building’s exterior.

• Completion of new toilet facilities.

• Construction of new concessions counter – which will sell tickets and refreshments – and upstairs bar and café area.

• Fitting signs.

• Cleaning and finishing work.

Comments(41)

razzi says...
9:43am Thu 14 May 09

Looking forward to seeing the Odeon alight with life again.

andy1978 says...
10:11am Thu 14 May 09

this building holds alot of memories for alot of people and its fantastic news that its reopening,york people just need to support it now by using it instead of vue etc.

DrEdDy says...
10:23am Thu 14 May 09

I hope all those people who protested when this closed will be the first people to cross the new threshold, but i wouldnt hold my breath.

my04fwn says...
10:24am Thu 14 May 09

Great news, Lets hope our children get a sat kids club like we did, complete with smiley badges.

obcomp says...
10:24am Thu 14 May 09

Personally I think the Odeon buidling is an eyesore and only looks good in the dark.

Hopefully the restoration and re-use of the retail outlets ajoined will smarten the area up and stop 'street urchins' using it as an open air toilet.

Guy Fawkes says...
10:54am Thu 14 May 09

As a former cinema manager I'm astonished that he's gone ahead. OK, cinemas tend to do well in recessions, usually as a result of people downsizing from more expensive forms of live entertainment (theatre, sporting events etc.). But we are in a very different place from the early '90s. Firstly, the DVD and so-called 'home cinema' consumer technology has gone mainstream, films for home viewing are a lot cheaper in real terms now than they were then, and cinema tickets are a lot more expensive.

Secondly, the investment required in bringing this place up to scratch must have been colossal. Re-upholstering all the seats?! Very expensive raw materials, and very labour intensive.

And finally, there is a lot of competition given the size of the city's population. The lack of parking anywhere near will prove to be the same problem for Mr. Suri as it has proven to be for City Screen. He's going to have to seriously undercut CS on ticket prices, which will be difficult given that he isn't in a strong negotiating position with film distributors. Vue and CS are both major players, and are likely to sign exclusive contracts with distributors (which is basically where a chain guarantees to put a film in a given number of screens for a guaranteed minimum time period, in return for which the distributor guarantees not to offer the same film to any other cinema in the area during that period). With only four or five sites, he'll find it hard to get the big-earning blockbusters in.

Still, good luck to him!

Soothsayer10.0 says...
10:57am Thu 14 May 09

I drove past it on Sunday to see workmen applying the new sign - looked spick & span.

That said, I'm concerned to see a new sound-system isn't mentioned among the work - that was what drove me away from the place. The last flick I saw there was Jurassic Park and the dinosaurs made more sense than the people...

Guy Fawkes says...
11:09am Thu 14 May 09

That said, I'm concerned to see a new sound-system isn't mentioned among the work...


The projection and sound was truly appalling. The last film I saw there, about a year before it closed, was shown in the wrong aspect ratio (should have been 1:1.85 but was cropped almost to 1:2.0, I guess to enable them to recycle a prime lens from another screen or site), the bulb was flickery and clearly needed replacing, and as for the sound, the less said the better. The fact that there was a thin partition wall on one side and a solid brick one on the other totally knackered the acoustics to start with, setting up a reverb that made dialogue almost impossible to hear. But even so the EQ was all wrong and it was generally a horrible experience. Add to that Ryanair-style legroom (which obviously won't be any better when it reopens, as they're keeping the existing seats) and it's not a place I have fond memories of.

I wonder if he's going to take the plunge and only install 2k digital projection, or if there is going to be 35mm as well. I'm not completely up to speed with the current state of play but Odeon themselves are now in the process of going fully digital and unless this place is going to show re-release and arthouse titles, I wouldn't have thought there'd be much point in installing film projectors in a newly opening site now.

oldgoat says...
11:29am Thu 14 May 09

It'll be nice to see it reopen, but with City Screen already having great seating, sound, and films, it'll be a challenge.

Mind you, anything to stop us having to drive out to 'Vue' and its huge, impersonal, expensive..... you know what I mean!

oldgoat says...
11:29am Thu 14 May 09

It'll be nice to see it reopen, but with City Screen already having great seating, sound, and films, it'll be a challenge.

Mind you, anything to stop us having to drive out to 'Vue' and its huge, impersonal, expensive..... you know what I mean!

russeboy says...
11:51am Thu 14 May 09

Brilliant News! I hate going to VUE - it's too expensive for tickets; food and drinks. The people who work there have no customer service skills and the screens are dated; worn and tired!

Dave Taylor says...
12:19pm Thu 14 May 09

'Guy Fawkes' and 'Old Goat' are right. It's not going to be as good as City Screen in quality or it's cinematic offering.

However, it will be great to see the fabulous Deco-style building brought back into use as a cinema and I wish Mr Suri every success.

Stevie D says...
12:25pm Thu 14 May 09

Dave Taylor wrote:
'Guy Fawkes' and 'Old Goat' are right. It's not going to be as good as City Screen in quality or it's cinematic offering. However, it will be great to see the fabulous Deco-style building brought back into use as a cinema and I wish Mr Suri every success.
No, it may not be such good quality as City Screen, but if it is priced accordingly then it should do OK. I know a lot of people are put off going to City Screen because of the high prices.

Garrowby Turnoff says...
12:25pm Thu 14 May 09

Oscar Deutsch Entertains Our Nation ...once more.

Hurray!

Jaytea says...
12:56pm Thu 14 May 09

At last a good news story. Perhaps Mr Suri couSd pop round to York station and give them some tips whilst he's here ?

gerry1962 says...
12:56pm Thu 14 May 09

Still going to be a dump as far as access for disabled people is concerned so I think I'll pass.

Jaytea says...
12:57pm Thu 14 May 09

At last a good news story. Perhaps Mr Suri couSd pop round to York station and give them some tips whilst he's here ?

gerry1962 says...
12:57pm Thu 14 May 09

Still going to be a dump as far as access for disabled people is concerned so I think I'll pass.

Ghost of Oscar Deutsch says...
1:01pm Thu 14 May 09

Nice to have some good news for a change. Hats off to Mr Suri for putting his money into breathing life back into this Art Deco landmark.
Now we can go see films hopefully without the need of a bank loan to get in. I mean who do Vue think they are kidding?!?!

Excellent

mystic_genius says...
1:05pm Thu 14 May 09

oldgoat wrote:
It'll be nice to see it reopen, but with City Screen already having great seating, sound, and films, it'll be a challenge. Mind you, anything to stop us having to drive out to 'Vue' and its huge, impersonal, expensive..... you know what I mean!

City Screen!? Great seating?!

the reason I never go to the cinema is because I was not born in Victorian ages. I.e. I am over 6ft 3. Anyone over 6ft trying to get into any York cinema will leave with deep vein thrombosis and pain. Why bother?

The Light in Leeds is far far superior, as is the cinema in Bouldon (near Newcastle). York is pathetic for those who are (not even abnormally) tall.

Guy Fawkes says...
1:29pm Thu 14 May 09

Agreed totally on the seat pitch. I'm 199cm tall (dunno what that is in old money) and unless you sit in the front row (which in most cases means putting up with bad sightlines) it's very uncomfortable.

Still going to be a dump as far as access for disabled people is concerned so I think I'll pass.


The Disability Discrimination Act pretty much requires them to provide access. If they needed to install a lift to make wheelchair access to the upstairs screen(s) possible, it will have cost them a pretty packet. Redesigning an interior structure to accommodate a lift shaft doesn't come cheap.

AdmiralNN says...
1:46pm Thu 14 May 09

mystic_genius wrote:
oldgoat wrote: It'll be nice to see it reopen, but with City Screen already having great seating, sound, and films, it'll be a challenge. Mind you, anything to stop us having to drive out to 'Vue' and its huge, impersonal, expensive..... you know what I mean!
City Screen!? Great seating?! the reason I never go to the cinema is because I was not born in Victorian ages. I.e. I am over 6ft 3. Anyone over 6ft trying to get into any York cinema will leave with deep vein thrombosis and pain. Why bother? The Light in Leeds is far far superior, as is the cinema in Bouldon (near Newcastle). York is pathetic for those who are (not even abnormally) tall.
Im over 6 3 also and when i go to the city screen i try and book the two seats above the entrance. Its not great but i can comfortably sprawl both legs out onto the aisles without getting neck ache!

KarenWhite1978 says...
2:07pm Thu 14 May 09

The cinema is such an outdated idea now that everyone has DVD, and most have large TVs and high def DVD etc. Last night I was roped into watched a current film that shall remain nameless(mainly because I'd be embarassed to admit to watching it) but in comfort of my own home,able to pause it when we wanted, to control the volume, to lounge comfortably on the sofa, eat food of choice and smoke.

Can't do any of these in a cinema!
_

AdmiralNN says...
2:34pm Thu 14 May 09

KarenWhite1978 wrote:
The cinema is such an outdated idea now that everyone has DVD, and most have large TVs and high def DVD etc. Last night I was roped into watched a current film that shall remain nameless(mainly because I'd be embarassed to admit to watching it) but in comfort of my own home,able to pause it when we wanted, to control the volume, to lounge comfortably on the sofa, eat food of choice and smoke. Can't do any of these in a cinema! _
How was Hannah Montana Karen?

shartin says...
3:54pm Thu 14 May 09

Good news.Hope everything goes according to plan,it'll be great to see the Odeon open once again,just in time to take my youngest grand daughter there!

Guy Fawkes says...
4:33pm Thu 14 May 09

The cinema is such an outdated idea now that everyone has DVD, and most have large TVs and high def DVD etc.


The death of cinema was predicted when TV came along in the '50s (try renting the 1955 film 'Simon and Laura' from your DVD postal renting service, if you use one) and when VHS came along in the early 1980s. The same sort of predictions are being made with 'home cinema', and they'll prove to be wide of the mark for the same reasons. While home viewing technology is getting better and cheaper, what it won't give you is the experience of seeing a film in the company of 100 different people. Writing a script, acting, directing and designing a production to be seen that way is very different from the TV. There are jokes that will bring the house down in a cinema but which will fall totally flat when you see the film at home.

However, although cinema has a future, there's no doubting that, like the pubs, it's in a lot of trouble at the present. City Screen were ahead of the curve in anticipating this, putting nice bars, live music events and other things in their buildings which gave people reasons to go there other than to just see films. And they started doing this in the mid to late '90s. But their business model is predicated on charging a premium price for a premium product (as is drinking in a pub versus drinking at home), and at the moment there are a lot less people around who are able and willing to pay that. If the Odeon mk. II can provide a decent but no-frills filmgoing experience at a price to match, they should do well (although the parking issue will be a challenge for them). Furthermore, opening what is effectively a new site at a time of big technological change in the industry is a good move, as unlike their competitors they won't have to invest in digital projection later if they factor this into the start-up costs.

akuma says...
4:47pm Thu 14 May 09

Cracking news, and I hope it comes good.

If only half the people that signed the petition to stop it closing in the first place use it, it should be a success.

Remember its a case of use it, or lose it!

pickle says...
5:27pm Thu 14 May 09

Its fantastic news for me living in the west of York, it means I don't have to drive to Vue cinema and pay a fortune. I can't see Vue being very happy though but they've made enough money out of us in the past!

the butler says...
5:44pm Thu 14 May 09

This Mr Suri has lots of guts,Good luck to him, he could of course take a leaf out of the Prendergast (Rialto)way of selling his dream, As long as he takes care to place the seating space at a sensible distance also check out the acoustics using people who have no defective hearing..

Guy Fawkes says...
5:51pm Thu 14 May 09

As long as he takes care to place the seating space at a sensible distance...


According to the article, the building's listing includes the seats in their current configuration, hence their being re-upholstered in situ. So presumably the legroom won't be any better.

tonezzzznoddedoff says...
6:07pm Thu 14 May 09

Great news, well done Mr Suri and good luck.

Chris1982 says...
7:20pm Thu 14 May 09

russeboy wrote:
Brilliant News! I hate going to VUE - it's too expensive for tickets; food and drinks. The people who work there have no customer service skills and the screens are dated; worn and tired!
I agree, Vue claim that they don't make any money on the cinema ticket you buy, they make the money on the food and drink, but for some reason I don't believe that and the food and drinks are too expensive anyway. I also agree that there is no customer service. I hope the Odeon is a success, I really do.

SensibleSimon says...
8:09pm Thu 14 May 09

Its not in the city centre, and its not got much parking.... how will people get to it? Please don't say FTR. And please don't say they'll be parking on my street. Thank goodness for those horrible rip-off respark permits.

And... the seats are listed? WHY!? They're seats! Do we really care more about preserving seats than peoples comfort/safety and business/economy success? What about the smell?

Guy Fawkes says...
8:37pm Thu 14 May 09

Vue claim that they don't make any money on the cinema ticket you buy, they make the money on the food and drink, but for some reason I don't believe that...


The distributor (i.e. the 'middle man' between the cinema and the studio that makes a film) typically charges between a 35% and a 75% gross, depending on how popular they think the film is going to be. So if you buy a cinema ticket for £6, if it's a mainstream blockbuster then the cinema only keeps around £2 of that. Once you've factored into running the building, staff costs and other overheads, then for many screenings the cinema is indeed making a substantial loss on the film rental.

I can understand that you find it hard to believe, but if you go to see a film and don't buy anything else (e.g. at the concession kisok or a drink in the bar) during your visit, the cinema is probably paying you to sit there.

BO grosses above 35% were very, very unusual until the first of the new lot of 'Star Wars' films came out in 1999. Fox asked for the virtually unheard of gross of 55% (I think it was that figure - certainly in that region), and managed to make the precedent stick. The result has been to seriously squeeze independent cinemas, and to reduce the range of films that make it to the big screen. Apart from mainstream titles and the odd quirky one that 'breaks through', the only places that can show anything that isn't recent Hollywood now are the cinemas that have an element of public arts subsidy.

BigJon says...
10:08pm Thu 14 May 09

Good news to hear it's re-opening, lets hope that all those people that complained about it being closed actually use it now.

I find it very strange when reading the above comments the number of people complaining that VUE is too expensive when, if you compare it with the prices of City Screen it is actually cheaper at times (ie adult 'primetime' showings) and it has free parking whereas for CS you'd have to pay extra for this a lot of the time..... I do think that Vue charging extra for 'adult only' and 3D showings (£2 extra!!!)is a bit of a con though

Concession prices I'm not too sure about but again if you compare them I'm sure you'd find that Vue and CS actually charge very similar 'expensive' prices

mystic_genius says...
7:54am Fri 15 May 09

AdmiralNN wrote:
mystic_genius wrote:
oldgoat wrote: It'll be nice to see it reopen, but with City Screen already having great seating, sound, and films, it'll be a challenge. Mind you, anything to stop us having to drive out to 'Vue' and its huge, impersonal, expensive..... you know what I mean!
City Screen!? Great seating?! the reason I never go to the cinema is because I was not born in Victorian ages. I.e. I am over 6ft 3. Anyone over 6ft trying to get into any York cinema will leave with deep vein thrombosis and pain. Why bother? The Light in Leeds is far far superior, as is the cinema in Bouldon (near Newcastle). York is pathetic for those who are (not even abnormally) tall.
Im over 6 3 also and when i go to the city screen i try and book the two seats above the entrance. Its not great but i can comfortably sprawl both legs out onto the aisles without getting neck ache!

I don't see why I should pay for 2 seats - I'm not so fat that I need two, I just want the one I have to be longer!!

Incidentally, on the one occassion every 2 years that i go to a cinema, I always take the disabled seats. For some bizarre reason, they have an acre of leg room. Obviously I'll shift if someone else needs them more than I do, but that never happens!!

bloodaxe says...
7:56am Fri 15 May 09

KarenWhite1978 wrote:
The cinema is such an outdated idea now that everyone has DVD, and most have large TVs and high def DVD etc. Last night I was roped into watched a current film that shall remain nameless(mainly because I'd be embarassed to admit to watching it) but in comfort of my own home,able to pause it when we wanted, to control the volume, to lounge comfortably on the sofa, eat food of choice and smoke. Can't do any of these in a cinema! _
Sounds like the sort of experience that drove people away in the first place: loud munchings, sprawling all over the place and smoking.

AdmiralNN says...
8:05am Fri 15 May 09

mystic_genius wrote:
AdmiralNN wrote:
mystic_genius wrote:
oldgoat wrote: It'll be nice to see it reopen, but with City Screen already having great seating, sound, and films, it'll be a challenge. Mind you, anything to stop us having to drive out to 'Vue' and its huge, impersonal, expensive..... you know what I mean!
City Screen!? Great seating?! the reason I never go to the cinema is because I was not born in Victorian ages. I.e. I am over 6ft 3. Anyone over 6ft trying to get into any York cinema will leave with deep vein thrombosis and pain. Why bother? The Light in Leeds is far far superior, as is the cinema in Bouldon (near Newcastle). York is pathetic for those who are (not even abnormally) tall.
Im over 6 3 also and when i go to the city screen i try and book the two seats above the entrance. Its not great but i can comfortably sprawl both legs out onto the aisles without getting neck ache!
I don't see why I should pay for 2 seats - I'm not so fat that I need two, I just want the one I have to be longer!! Incidentally, on the one occassion every 2 years that i go to a cinema, I always take the disabled seats. For some bizarre reason, they have an acre of leg room. Obviously I'll shift if someone else needs them more than I do, but that never happens!!
lol my apologies for not making myself clear i would get the two seats there, one for me one for my missus. not both for me :-)

The Vicar says...
12:04pm Fri 15 May 09

It's a great shame you can't still smoke in cinema's.

Nothing was better than watching a good film smoking a tab!

gerry1962 says...
2:03pm Fri 15 May 09

The extra leg room is exactly for that, many disabled people who walk with difficulty find it difficult to sit with their legs bent for long. And, as far as the DDA is concerned, it IS good, but with buildings that are already built prior to the Act coming into place, it gives developers an excuse not to do anything. NEW buildings have to be fully accessible.

Yorkie Girl says...
2:16pm Mon 18 May 09

I disagree with KarenWhite1978, Cinema isnt dead. no matter how good a surround sound set you have, it doesnt beat the actual experience of going to the flicks.
I think it is great that they are bringing back the Odean, we need a cinema which is in the center of york (almost) and shows good films. I find city screen shows limited films.
My only fear is that it too will charge the world like city screen and vue!

So yes, watching a film in the comfort of your own home with endless amounts of cigs/food & a remote may be your preference, but in my eyes it is nowhere near the same experience as at the flicks.... Plus, if cinemas are dead, where would you go for the good ol' first date!!!!???

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