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Buses collide in rush-hour
9:22am Saturday 4th April 2009 in News
The collision between two buses in Museum Street, York, yesterday. Picture by The Press reader Chris Edgehill
TWO buses collided in a busy York street during the teatime rush-hour.
The incident happened in Museum Street at about 5.30pm yesterday.
Police were called to the scene, but when they arrived minutes later, the buses, a No 2 Park & Ride and a No 6, both operated by First, had gone.
Nobody was injured in the crash.
Comments(44)
Ghost of Oscar Deutsch
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9:28am Sat 4 Apr 09
But never mind, heres an idea, let's build another cycle lane ala Clifton Green.
clm058
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10:01am Sat 4 Apr 09
topumpire1
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10:10am Sat 4 Apr 09
York1900
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10:57am Sat 4 Apr 09
topumpire1 wrote:It happened because the bendy bus went through on green and the bendy bus back end swings out as it starts to straighten up hence the back end of the of the bendy bus slaps the side of the number 6
I thought this junction had lights to stop two way traffic? Then HOW did this happen? The lights shown are RED, so did the "bendy" bus go through or did the No6 set off too quickly without waiting for his (or her) colleague to get around after the lighyts changed. FY should investigate this as obviously the police couldn't & I bet the drivers concerned have not informed their bosses!
as a rule at this junction buses pass with millimeters to spare
The bendy bus is in the wrong for going through the green light when the exit road is not clear and stopping in the yellow box
yorkred
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11:15am Sat 4 Apr 09
clm058 wrote:The plus point is,that while stories like this make the news, nothing else must be going on in York so that can only be good
What is the point in this story, no one was hurt no trafic problems. Do I miss something here?
Free speech
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12:30pm Sat 4 Apr 09
AndYork
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12:56pm Sat 4 Apr 09
baileyuk
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1:50pm Sat 4 Apr 09
perhaps first york and council may start looking at the public transport and the effect they have on the people of york,, maybe introduce smaller buses with a better service??
Herbie
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3:59pm Sat 4 Apr 09
1805 hours on 3rd April I was at the yellow box junction near the station and the sorting office trying to go straight on towards Leeman Road from Rougier St, and couldn't, my light was green but the entire box junction was blocked by a number 3 bendy bus...
First York Bosses - if you're reading this, as an Easter bonus give your drivers a copy of the highway code so they can stop flouting traffic laws...
RingoStarr
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6:08pm Sat 4 Apr 09
caliwag
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7:36pm Sat 4 Apr 09
Apart from the touist attraction of all sorts of steam, diesel, horse and electric traction from the Rail museum to the Minster, a tram system would be the biggest tourist draw ever...believe me.
They need not be like the "purple buses" but could be taylored to narrow streets...narrow trams. On the continent they have all types, to suit.
Run them every 5 minutes and people would flock to them...just bite the bullet and do it!
sun seeker's
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9:45pm Sat 4 Apr 09
Stoff
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11:52pm Sat 4 Apr 09
onlooker
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12:19am Sun 5 Apr 09
AndYork wrote:What theatre? Lendal bridge? Gillygate?This is Museum Street; the buses are entering/leaving Ousegate. Ahead is Spurriergate/Coney Street. Do you not know your own city?
the problem with that junction is when approaching the theatre from lendal bridge you cannot see through buildings so therefore cannot see standing traffic till its too late and its just unlucky if your driving a long vehicle ( hgv's coaches and Bendy buses).the problem with this junction is the lights at bootham bar been not set up correctly with most traffic wanting to be in the right hand lane to go down Gillygate. the picture here shows it looks like the bus driver coming from the theatre, did not give enough swing to get round the corner and yes probably was going too fast to do it safely till it was too late. As for yellow box infringments, there are alot of places where the yellow box LAW does not seem to be policed. for instance the junction of Scarcroft Road and the Mount for the number 11 to turn right is very bad due to complete selfishness and poor due care and attention by car drivers. until North Yorkshire police do something about this it will never change and laws of the road will NOT be adeared to.
Idiot!
NoNewsIsGoodNews
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7:04am Sun 5 Apr 09
chillout
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8:28am Sun 5 Apr 09
Windy
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9:39am Sun 5 Apr 09
onlooker wrote:I suggest you take a look at the map below. Your geography is way off beam.
AndYork wrote: the problem with that junction is when approaching the theatre from lendal bridge you cannot see through buildings so therefore cannot see standing traffic till its too late and its just unlucky if your driving a long vehicle ( hgv's coaches and Bendy buses).the problem with this junction is the lights at bootham bar been not set up correctly with most traffic wanting to be in the right hand lane to go down Gillygate. the picture here shows it looks like the bus driver coming from the theatre, did not give enough swing to get round the corner and yes probably was going too fast to do it safely till it was too late. As for yellow box infringments, there are alot of places where the yellow box LAW does not seem to be policed. for instance the junction of Scarcroft Road and the Mount for the number 11 to turn right is very bad due to complete selfishness and poor due care and attention by car drivers. until North Yorkshire police do something about this it will never change and laws of the road will NOT be adeared to.What theatre? Lendal bridge? Gillygate?This is Museum Street; the buses are entering/leaving Ousegate. Ahead is Spurriergate/Coney Street. Do you not know your own city? Idiot!
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yawn..
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10:09am Sun 5 Apr 09
sciencefan
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2:04pm Sun 5 Apr 09
marc
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2:21pm Sun 5 Apr 09
sciencefan wrote:a few times the council has offered a bus franchise to another operator, to weaken First York stronghold, First York have bought the company (remember the orange and Purple buses).
The transport commissioner should take a long hard look at First York's fitness to operate and CYC would be wise to be as distant as possible from this farce of a company. The bendy buses are a danger to others on the streets of York, when driven in the manner that many of the first driver do. TOORAD may have been OTT but in essence he is correct. having been on the receiving end of the probably criminal driving of a First bus driver, I am well placed to know!
TooRad
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2:26pm Sun 5 Apr 09
chillout wrote:So are you telling us that the on-board cctv is only running when the driver chooses to turn it on?
collisions on this corner happen very regular , even with cars. the number of times i have had to switch on my cctv to witness impact is on a regular basis. soon as 2 buses collide then all the world wants to know.
If that's true then I think I can see a flaw or two in that system, not the least of which being the question of bias.
York bus fan
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5:38pm Sun 5 Apr 09
old_geezer
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10:04pm Sun 5 Apr 09
KC65
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12:27am Mon 6 Apr 09
chillout
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6:37am Mon 6 Apr 09
TooRad wrote:no, when you press the red button it records 20 secs before before you pressed it and for several mins after you operated it. it is recording all the time. the only video evidence accepted by police and insurance comps so ive been told. your the one who initiated the thoughtless unprovoked attacks, p.s you seem to be involved in a lot of cut ups !! are they all not your fault.
chillout wrote: collisions on this corner happen very regular , even with cars. the number of times i have had to switch on my cctv to witness impact is on a regular basis. soon as 2 buses collide then all the world wants to know.So are you telling us that the on-board cctv is only running when the driver chooses to turn it on? If that's true then I think I can see a flaw or two in that system, not the least of which being the question of bias.
chillout
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6:40am Mon 6 Apr 09
KC65 wrote:ooh ooh i lurrv peanuts, but it doesnt pay for the groceries etc.
Heavens above. Please stop all the criticizm. Surely you must know that these bus drivers own the roads. Just remember to get out of the way to let them pass. The city stops to pay homage to this transport giant!!!! Monkeys and peanuts springs to mind.
TooRad
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8:14am Mon 6 Apr 09
I remind you of your post calling me immature and a plonker, with no other reasoning or substance at all to it.
May I ask, if the cctv is recording all the time why do you need a red button to make it record?
old_geezer
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8:50am Mon 6 Apr 09
ThisIsOli
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8:54am Mon 6 Apr 09
chillout
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11:53am Mon 6 Apr 09
TooRad wrote:constantly recording then very shortly afterwards it automitically deletes, if you press the red button it saves images from 20 secs before you operated it and saves images for several minutes, then it sends them to california to get processed then they get sent back to york .
If you mean I initiated your abuse by simply describing my experience and offering a logical solution, then yes I was wearing that short skirt. Just like on the roads - go about your day legally and sensibly, face the outbursts of uptight angry FirstYork bus drivers. I remind you of your post calling me immature and a plonker, with no other reasoning or substance at all to it. May I ask, if the cctv is recording all the time why do you need a red button to make it record?
chillout
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11:55am Mon 6 Apr 09
old_geezer wrote:top man !
TooRad: thesee systems are designed to record continuously but temporarily, to save on storage. That recording can then be transferred to permanent storage starting 20 seconds before the button is pressed.
evelyn_trent
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12:00pm Mon 6 Apr 09
old_geezer
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12:30pm Mon 6 Apr 09
mystic_genius
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12:50pm Mon 6 Apr 09
evelyn_trent wrote:Not illegal to drive through an amber light, how can you fine for that?
Isn't it about time the Council installed junction infringement cameras? £30 a shot for each time a vehicle goes through a changing amber or red light would earn it an absolute fortune...
Are you including bikes on this idea? seems to me they are a law unto themselves a lot of the time, just like buses/
TooRad
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12:57pm Mon 6 Apr 09
old_geezer wrote:So it only stores the recording if the driver presses the button? Again I see a flaw in that. First parade the cctv as an aid to the public's safety, when really it exists only to protect them from paying out on claims.
TooRad: thesee systems are designed to record continuously but temporarily, to save on storage. That recording can then be transferred to permanent storage starting 20 seconds before the button is pressed.
The driver is hardly going to push the button to make sure there's a hard copy of him cutting someone up is he? Who would tape themselves going through a red light? If he negligently takes someone out cos he didn't see them, he doesn't know to press the button in the first place.
Thanks for the info guys. It explains a lot.
kezzabell
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1:07pm Mon 6 Apr 09
Henry Swanson
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1:50pm Mon 6 Apr 09
TooRad wrote:Yeah, I guess the problem with humor is its all about personal taste, whilst im all for Fritzel jokes I do kinda think that what makes them a joke is them actually being funny??? Something you'v not quite grasped
Henry Swanson wrote:Someone else with the insults. Are you a bus driver too? It was supposed to be humourous.TooRad wrote:Moron! Come on, the busses scraped each other, iv had worse collisions than that with myself.... There really isnbt a problem at this junction, usually its fine, this was a one off, no one was hurt and its anot a newsworthy story.... get a grip!perhaps first york and council may start looking at the public transport and the effect they have on the people of york,, maybe introduce smaller buses with a better service??That Austrian incest bloke dies. He arrives in hell. Josef: Hey Satan, I'm here let me in. Satan: S-sorry, dude, b-but we're c-closed. Josef: Closed? Why? And why are you shivering so? Satan: I've n-never seen it so c-cold down here, it's starting to f-freeze over.. Josef: Oh well, at least firstyork and the council looked at the impact they have on the people and made some changes for the better, eh?
TooRad
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11:04pm Mon 6 Apr 09
chillout said "very shortly afterwards", old_geezer said "temporarily". How long is it in minutes/hours? If you don't mind me asking, like.
Head of Bomber Command
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6:01am Tue 7 Apr 09
topumpire1 wrote:I hope your umpiring is better than your Detective work.
I thought this junction had lights to stop two way traffic? Then HOW did this happen? The lights shown are RED, so did the "bendy" bus go through or did the No6 set off too quickly without waiting for his (or her) colleague to get around after the lighyts changed. FY should investigate this as obviously the police couldn't & I bet the drivers concerned have not informed their bosses!
The photo may have been taken a minute or so after the accident.
tekneek
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9:41am Tue 7 Apr 09
TooRad wrote:The drivecam footage activates with either sharp braking/ cornering or manual activation. There is also cctv on almost all buses that is continously recording, this overwrites every 7 days or so
Hey chillout and old_geezer, just so we're all clear here, how long between recording and automatic deletion if no-one has pressed the red button? chillout said "very shortly afterwards", old_geezer said "temporarily". How long is it in minutes/hours? If you don't mind me asking, like.
TooRad
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1:08pm Tue 7 Apr 09
Alan Fetish
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1:12pm Thu 9 Apr 09
onlooker wrote:I know that 'onlooker' has already been corrected, but I just wanted to mimic the original childish tone and point out that it is, in fact, onlooker who is the idiot. Idiot!
AndYork wrote: the problem with that junction is when approaching the theatre from lendal bridge you cannot see through buildings so therefore cannot see standing traffic till its too late and its just unlucky if your driving a long vehicle ( hgv's coaches and Bendy buses).the problem with this junction is the lights at bootham bar been not set up correctly with most traffic wanting to be in the right hand lane to go down Gillygate. the picture here shows it looks like the bus driver coming from the theatre, did not give enough swing to get round the corner and yes probably was going too fast to do it safely till it was too late. As for yellow box infringments, there are alot of places where the yellow box LAW does not seem to be policed. for instance the junction of Scarcroft Road and the Mount for the number 11 to turn right is very bad due to complete selfishness and poor due care and attention by car drivers. until North Yorkshire police do something about this it will never change and laws of the road will NOT be adeared to.What theatre? Lendal bridge? Gillygate?This is Museum Street; the buses are entering/leaving Ousegate. Ahead is Spurriergate/Coney Street. Do you not know your own city? Idiot!
HeworthSapper
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12:58pm Tue 14 Apr 09
consumer says...
9:26am Sat 4 Apr 09