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Royal Mail complaints rise by 32% in York and North Yorkshire

Royal Mail complaints rise by 32% in York and North Yorkshire Royal Mail complaints rise by 32% in York and North Yorkshire

COMPLAINTS about York and North Yorkshire’s postal service have rocketed by a third in 12 months, with thousands more letters being lost, damaged or delivered late.

Royal Mail received 9,386 complaints from the YO postcode region in 2007/8 – an average of more than 25 a day. In 2006/7, the figure was 7,072 –19 a day.

The YO rise of 32.7 per cent compared with a nationwide figure of only 1.5 per cent.

Royal Mail today blamed industrial action for the dramatic rise and said things were now getting better, but local politicians reacted to the figures with dismay.

York MP Hugh Bayley said plans to move second-class mail sorting from York to Leeds should now be scrapped. He said: “It cannot possibly improve delivery times in York.”

City council leader Andrew Waller said: “This is a publicly-owned service, therefore there needs to be full accountability.

“It does question some of the changes being proposed.”

But Royal Mail denied moving second-class sorting would make things worse.

A spokeswoman said: “The move of some sorting work from York to Leeds would have no adverse impact on customer service.”

She said: “The complaints during 2007/8 – about one for every 15,000 letters and packets posted – came in a year when there was a prolonged period of industrial action. A quality of service has since improved with the vast majority of mail now being delivered at target levels or above.”

Of the 9,386 complaints received, 3,810 were about lost mail, meaning more than 19,000 letters and parcels have now been reported missing in the region in the past five years. A further 815 were about mis-delivered items, while there were 811 about delays; 683 about delivery procedures in general; and 475 about damage.

Other sources of frustration included staff being rude, PO Box failures, and inadequate business collections.

In total, Royal Mail ruled that more than 4,000 customers in the YO area were entitled to compensation, leaving it with a bill for £82,800. In 2006/7, that figure was £56,600.

Mr Bayley, who is due to meet Royal Mail’s area manager, Alison Wright, next Monday to discuss the relocation plans, said: “Royal Mail needs to take action to reduce the number of complaints.”

His Selby counterpart, John Grogan, said: “The worrying thing in the figures is that the main reasons for this dramatic increase are increases in lost, damaged, mis-delivered or delayed mail, which is at the very core of what the post office is about – getting mail to the right person in a reasonable amount of time. I hope postal management in the YO area will consider this seriously and give explanations to what has gone wrong in the business in York to lead to this decline in service levels.”

Comments(18)

Capt. Dobie says...
12:28pm Mon 3 Nov 08

Here's another complaint; why do posties insist of leaving a trail of red-rubber bands behind them?

Littering is a fineable offence for one, and at the 'risk' of being green, can't they stuff them in a pocket and drop them back off at the sorting office? I would like to see what the post-office spends on laggy-bands in a year... ;-)

By the way, a reminder for posties; when an envelope says 'Do Not Bend' it isn't a grammatically incorrect challenge, it means 'please don't bend this letter'...

old_geezer says...
12:58pm Mon 3 Nov 08

I don't like the trail of rubber bands either. However, it must save me - ooh, maybe 50 pence a year not buying any!

Prob says...
1:03pm Mon 3 Nov 08

They'd have had more - but half of the complaints didn't get delivered.

The rest were late because the stopping of the second post

Anonimouse2 says...
1:26pm Mon 3 Nov 08

I complained to the postman because he was putting my letters through my neighbours letterbox, he apologised and said it was because he was tired as he'd just come back off holiday, 3 days this had been going on, he may be tired but surely he can read a number on a letterbox!! I complained to the post office and they said he would be dealt with!

york_ic says...
1:32pm Mon 3 Nov 08

So Hugh bayley wants to move of second class mail to Leeds scrapped. This kneejerk reaction statement just sums him up…He does not have a clue what he is talking about. Let me enlighten him and any other blinkered readers who may share his thinking. Leeds mail centre is a state of the art processing centre, fully equipped to handle vast volumes of mail. Owing to investment in further technology they are now able to handle more mail then is generated within there own catchment area. This new technology is able to enhance the treatment of mail far greater than what the equipment at York can do. As a result of this, the process is faster and more efficient which in turn benefits the paying customers. Well then Hugh, get off the bandwagon, face reality and do your homework before making yourself look a bigger fool.

Soothsayer426897-A says...
1:35pm Mon 3 Nov 08

The idle b@stard who delivers down my street can't even be @rsed to ring the bell and see if yr at home if he has a parcel that’s too big for the slot. He just sticks a "sorry-you-weren't-i
n" card through the door and p!sses off blissfully away - usually riding his bike on the pavement as he goes.

The Fazman says...
1:35pm Mon 3 Nov 08

Its just another ploy to put the YO area in a bad light with a view to shutting the main sorting office down in Leeman Road.
Pathetic excuse blaming industrial action.
Hugh Baily is badly informed about 2nds class shipped out to Leeds it wont affect delivery at all.
Get off the band wagon Mr Baily you will do the workers no good in their fight to save jobs,and wont gain any respect from the ucw or gain any votes this way.
'The YO rise of 32.7 per cent compared with a nationwide figure of only 1.5 per cent.'
Do you really believe the above statement is possible.
In my long experience with royal Mail I never thought they would sink as low to this kind of propaganda.
But its amazing how they can use figures to twist things about(just ask any worker about bonus schemes in the past)
WTF has elastic bands got to do with this article ?




The Fazman says...
1:45pm Mon 3 Nov 08

I wrote my post before i read york_ic,S,that is spot on.
@ Soothsayer426897-A, although written in bad taste(you will get banned i have 3 times) if true that postman should be sacked,most posties do a great job against the odds only the bad ones get a mention.
I suggest you report him but in doing so the above figure will probably go up to 88.3%.


tlf says...
1:49pm Mon 3 Nov 08

old_geezer wrote:
I don't like the trail of rubber bands either. However, it must save me - ooh, maybe 50 pence a year not buying any!
our cat brings them home for us :-)

tlf says...
1:57pm Mon 3 Nov 08

york_ic wrote:
So Hugh bayley wants to move of second class mail to Leeds scrapped. This kneejerk reaction statement just sums him up…He does not have a clue what he is talking about. Let me enlighten him and any other blinkered readers who may share his thinking. Leeds mail centre is a state of the art processing centre, fully equipped to handle vast volumes of mail. Owing to investment in further technology they are now able to handle more mail then is generated within there own catchment area. This new technology is able to enhance the treatment of mail far greater than what the equipment at York can do. As a result of this, the process is faster and more efficient which in turn benefits the paying customers. Well then Hugh, get off the bandwagon, face reality and do your homework before making yourself look a bigger fool.
werent York Managers inviting councillors in for a chat to enlighten them? it obviously didnt happen but should do soon!

Soothsayer426897-A says...
2:12pm Mon 3 Nov 08

The Fazman wrote:
I wrote my post before i read york_ic,S,that is spot on. @ Soothsayer426897-A, although written in bad taste(you will get banned i have 3 times) if true that postman should be sacked,most posties do a great job against the odds only the bad ones get a mention. I suggest you report him but in doing so the above figure will probably go up to 88.3%.
Thanks for the advice but its granny & eggs time. Banned more times than I can remember - including once today.

Just go to mail.com and get another free email.

The Fazman says...
2:49pm Mon 3 Nov 08

yes sooth..freedom of speech is pretty much gone these days unless your b...err no wont go there.
yes i have more yahoo addys than i care to count.

clockwatcher says...
6:10pm Mon 3 Nov 08

So the majority of the complaints are down to the Industrial action, one question i would like answering please, if this was the case why did the YO postcode complaints go up by 32.7% and the national average by 1.5%. Was this not a national strike and not just a local one? Seems to me that there is more to the problem, can we have a bit of truth for a change, is it because of all the cost cutting initiatives and other hair brained schemes that have led to this. A bad work man always blames his tools, come on Royal Mail please admit you have made the mistakes, the staff only carry them out. And leeds maybe able to cope with Yorks 2nd Class but what about the other areas they service that is not an LS postcode???

poorlyduck says...
6:50pm Mon 3 Nov 08

We have a PO Box number for our business. We weren't getting our mail because the shower at Leeman Road were failing to forward it - a service we were paying for. We complained to Post Watch (by phone) and they wrote to us telling us they were dealing with the complaint. Guess what? It was sent to the PO Box number even though we'd given our private address. And guess what? Leeman Road failed to forward it. It languished there for 7 months.

nannystate says...
9:12pm Mon 3 Nov 08

Only a 32% increase in complaints. Did the rest get lost in the post?

Seth says...
9:18pm Mon 3 Nov 08

Perhaps the problem letters are caused by pillocks who can't be bothered with full address' ie Mr Smith,Main st,Thirsk. Please try and give us posties a fighting chance and stop 'kin moaning

tubbs says...
9:36pm Mon 3 Nov 08

i came out of my house a few weeks back and found a letter on mu garden path, it was for a neighbour over the road and turned out to be a bank statement, she complained to the lovely people at the post office who in turn offered her a free book of 6 first class stamps.
seems like a fair trade, 6 stamps for her bank details.

hoffers says...
8:57am Tue 4 Nov 08

In the last 12 months I have noticed our postal delivery has got worse. Several days last week our post arrived at around 2.30pm - 3pm and it's always a different postie, and some days we get letters for other addresses so I dread to think whether some of ours go astray.
The Royal Mail is still great value but with no real competition in door-to-door delivery it can do what it wants and get away with it.

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