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Residents’ fear over Terry’s bid

8:30am Thursday 28th August 2008

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By Gavin Aitchison »

ANXIOUS residents lobbied developers and councillors as they met to discuss the proposed redevelopment of York’s former Terry’s chocolate factory.

About a dozen locals attended a meeting at the factory, to air their concerns about increased traffic levels and the loss of parking spaces.

A City of York Council planning committee will debate developer Grantside’s plans this afternoon and a site visit was held yesterday with councillors and residents.

Mum-of-three Ruth Helstrip, of Bishopthorpe Road, said residents were worried they would no longer be able to park outside their houses.

She said: “We are not objecting to the development, but we object to the fact that the developer wants to deny us access to our houses by putting in traffic lights and double yellow lines.”

Another local resident, Cristina Rivas Graver, said: “There is some development needed, but not the volume they want.

“They just want to push it through for the people who will not suffer the consequences.”

She voiced concern over the main entrance to the site being opposite Knavesmire Primary School, saying it increased the risk of accidents.

“There will be deaths on the roads here, and it will be children’s more likely,” she said. “It’s just not acceptable.”

Other neighbours voiced concern over the potential impact on air quality and traffic levels as a result of the redevelopment, which will see the former factory converted into housing, offices, shops and a hotel.

Peter Callaghan, Grantside development director, said: “We have done extensive consultation with people regarding our proposals and we continue to meet residents to fully explain our proposals to them.

“While some residents are concerned about the loss of on-street parking, there are others who welcome the proposals as they consider that the current on-street parking is a health and safety risk for pedestrians and cyclists, particularly as the parking is generally half on the road and half on the pavement.

“We have been challenged to provide proposals that address both the parking and the health and safety issues and our submission provides the optimum solution by minimising the loss of parking and maximising the health and safety of all road users.”

The planning committee meets at the Guildhall at 4.30pm today to debate and decide the application.


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Chris York Born&Bred, YORK says...
8:42am Thu 28 Aug 08

Terrys old factory is the ideal building for the council offices.
Plenty of room & car parking for everyone......

Pedro, York says...
9:20am Thu 28 Aug 08

Park outside their houses? What on the road or the pavement? We can't live in a fool's paradise for ever, South Bank traffic is madness with one way streets (made by motorists)and mothers have to take pushchairs on the road because they can't use the pavement! The real world has to walk in the door sometime!

mztripps, says...
11:07am Thu 28 Aug 08

It's not the parking that everyone should worry about, it's the access and the roads around. 500 flats is equivilent to 1000 cars cos every family has one each these days. Imagine these 1000 added the race day traffic. Great image.

The person above who has suggested that Terrys is the new council offices has the right idea. CYC can keep a one stop shop in the centre where people can pay parking fines, council tax, make enquiries over one counter while the rest go out to Bishopthorpe. It would save us, the tax payers, a fortune.

BishRoadResident, York says...
1:48pm Thu 28 Aug 08

Pedro wrote:
Park outside their houses? What on the road or the pavement? We can't live in a fool's paradise for ever, South Bank traffic is madness with one way streets (made by motorists)and mothers have to take pushchairs on the road because they can't use the pavement! The real world has to walk in the door sometime!
In 7 years of living on Bishopthorpe Road and 5 years of pushing prams, I have never been forced onto the road because of parked cars. Given that the developers and the council cannot offer me a solution to my problem of access to my property with 3 children under 5 years of age, maybe you can? Bishopthorpe Road is a very busy road, set to become even busier - how am I supposed to disembark 3 children safely out of the car while parked goodness knows how far away from my property? Whilst we appreciate that we do not own the road, we bought this property 7 years ago with a view to having a family and one important consideration was being able to park close to our house. Other local residents have been here 30 years or more - the developers and the council are more interested in the residents of the new development and couldn't car less about the existing community.

Pedro, York says...
3:08pm Thu 28 Aug 08

BishRoadResident wrote:
Pedro wrote:
Park outside their houses? What on the road or the pavement? We can't live in a fool's paradise for ever, South Bank traffic is madness with one way streets (made by motorists)and mothers have to take pushchairs on the road because they can't use the pavement! The real world has to walk in the door sometime!In 7 years of living on Bishopthorpe Road and 5 years of pushing prams, I have never been forced onto the road because of parked cars. Given that the developers and the council cannot offer me a solution to my problem of access to my property with 3 children under 5 years of age, maybe you can? Bishopthorpe Road is a very busy road, set to become even busier - how am I supposed to disembark 3 children safely out of the car while parked goodness knows how far away from my property? Whilst we appreciate that we do not own the road, we bought this property 7 years ago with a view to having a family and one important consideration was being able to park close to our house. Other local residents have been here 30 years or more - the developers and the council are more interested in the residents of the new development and couldn't car less about the existing community.
Fair comment. Now tell me you are not parking on pavement yourself? Which is actually not allowed by law and you are telling me I could push a double pushcar up and down Bishopthorpe Road (past all the lawbreakers of which you may be one) and never have my path blocked? You must be talking about somewhere else, if you do.

You are like a lot of people on here- we are supposed to tailor city life around your choices of having children and buying a house without dedicated parking.

There is such a thing as the greater good. The road will be too busy for things to carry on as they are. Not only Terry's development, but the predicated sharp rise in car ownership.

In the fullness of time you might have to prove you have somewhere to park a car before you can own one. If the AA is right (and cars on the road double within ten years) that might be the only way to avoid total chaos.

Joseph, York says...
3:15pm Thu 28 Aug 08

I don't think we should let a few NIMBY's stand in the way of progress for the whole city. If you don't like how the area will change then why not just move house? If you want to live in a city then you have to cope with parking and traffic problems - if its a major issue, move to the country!

AdmiralN, Nether Poppleton says...
5:14pm Thu 28 Aug 08

'we bought this property 7 years ago with a view to having a family and one important consideration was being able to park close to our house.'

If this was an important issue, wouldnt it have been more sensible to look at houses with driveways?

again, york says...
5:55pm Thu 28 Aug 08

Joseph wrote:
I don't think we should let a few NIMBY's stand in the way of progress for the whole city. If you don't like how the area will change then why not just move house? If you want to live in a city then you have to cope with parking and traffic problems - if its a major issue, move to the country!
So why shouldn't people who live in a particular area have a say in how it is developed? Trying to belittle such a right by inventing abusive acronyms is simply a dishonest tactic. One of the benefits of city living SHOULD be that you don't need a car. In the UK it rarely works like that due to appalling planning and greed-driven developments.

the butler, cowichan Bay says...
6:36pm Thu 28 Aug 08

Wasn't a Claus in the building permit that said, access to and from the property was to be the first priority acted on?
As for home parking, has anyone asked York council to modify the pavement layout by eliminating those silly grass swards for parking?.

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