A LAP-DANCING club has been refused permission to expand when race days are held in the city.
Upstairs VIP Limited, which already operates above Mansion nightclub, in Micklegate, will not be able to extend their business in the premises after councillors ruled in favour of neighbours objecting to the plans.
Proposals to open until 5am, seven days a week, and add another Sexual Entertainment Venue (SEV) on the ground floor during this year's 17 York Racecourse meetings had also been met with objections from North Yorkshire Police.
City of York Council's Gambling, Licensing and Regulatory Committee did grant permission to extend their license for 12 months, but rejected plans to open up another area for dancers.
However, owner Andrew Whitney said he would consider appealing the decision.
He said: "What we put forward to do was more than enough for it to be granted.
"It's a disappointing result but a result that's subject to appeal.
"That building is too good to give up on."
The licence-extension was granted subject to the club employing door staff between the venue's basement bar and lap-dancing club, and installing CCTV in every dancers' booth to protect employees and customers by June 1.
Sgt Matthew France, North Yorkshire Police's licensing manger, told the meeting: "There's CCTV on the premises but it doesn't cover all the booths.
"This is the only place in North Yorkshire that doesn't do that, but it will protect the dancers if they are assaulted or a malicious claim against a customer is made."
Five residents objected to the club extending its opening hours from 3am to 5am, and suggested that by moving dancers on to the ground floor on race days would only exacerbate existing problems.
Cllr Keith Aspden, chairman of the committee decided against granting the licence because of the area's character, which housed numerous residents, and said he feared its Listed building status would not be protected sufficiently.
He said: "This is a Listed building and we need to be able to say that it can be managed for its combined use and I don't think it will be manageable."
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I went lap dancing classes but found it totally exhausting.
I went lap dancing classes but found it totally exhausting.
I went to Lapland and found it disappointingly cold!
Couldn't see what all the fuss was about, dancers in Reindeer skins, jigging about around a fire?
I went to Lapland and found it disappointingly cold!
Couldn't see what all the fuss was about, dancers in Reindeer skins, jigging about around a fire?
Oh dear. The Press was hoping the plans would be approved so it could report on it three times a week.... every week.
Oh dear. The Press was hoping the plans would be approved so it could report on it three times a week.... every week.
Pleased rejected will only lower the tone of the area . exploitation of woman enough problems in york as it. More problems for the police.
Pleased rejected will only lower the tone of the area . exploitation of woman enough problems in york as it. More problems for the police.
Excellent news.
Most people do not want sick clubs for sick people in York.
Excellent news.
Most people do not want sick clubs for sick people in York.
Merion M wrote…
Excellent news.
Most people do not want sick clubs for sick people in York.
Quite right!
I don't want that either. .
Let's vote for dirty clubs for dirty people instead!
Merion M wrote…
Excellent news.
Most people do not want sick clubs for sick people in York.
Quite right!
I don't want that either. .
Let's vote for dirty clubs for dirty people instead!
They should have got rid of all the seats.
If they took all the seats away, there wouldn't have been any of this palaver, because when you stand up, your lap completely disappears...
End of problem.
They should have got rid of all the seats.
If they took all the seats away, there wouldn't have been any of this palaver, because when you stand up, your lap completely disappears...
End of problem.
Sense at last out of the Council chambers
Sense at last out of the Council chambers
anistasia wrote…
Pleased rejected will only lower the tone of the area . exploitation of woman enough problems in york as it. More problems for the police.
Would struggle to lower the tone of the area much more though!
anistasia wrote…
Pleased rejected will only lower the tone of the area . exploitation of woman enough problems in york as it. More problems for the police.
Would struggle to lower the tone of the area much more though!
"The licence-extension was granted subject to the club employing door staff between the venue's basement bar and lap-dancing club, and installing CCTV in every dancers' booth to protect employees and customers by June 1."
Must be an interesting job monitoring that CCTV.
"The licence-extension was granted subject to the club employing door staff between the venue's basement bar and lap-dancing club, and installing CCTV in every dancers' booth to protect employees and customers by June 1."
Must be an interesting job monitoring that CCTV.
The city might benefit more from a classy swingers venue, they are much more inclusive for women and less sexist. Women usually lead activity rather than men. One in Birmingham recently opened, hundreds across the country are licensed. Most big cities have them. Search Tudor lounge, Stratford house, Birmingham on Google, it's a beautiful old building discreetly converted. It's not just a fad and they are not getting closed down, left right and centre, its not at all for the pervy seedy types or old men any more, its young professionals, it's a huge industry with lots of sexually empowered women, men and young people choosing not to sit at home on forums and laptops working up an unhealthy obsession but rather meet and enjoy sex rather than suppressing their desires. Most are in strong relationships and just want to expand on their love life to make it stronger, try new things and experience what a lot of the world has been doing for years. Dare I say it would likely attract a lot of well off to the city, it's definately something I would consider as part of a night life offering.
The city might benefit more from a classy swingers venue, they are much more inclusive for women and less sexist. Women usually lead activity rather than men. One in Birmingham recently opened, hundreds across the country are licensed. Most big cities have them. Search Tudor lounge, Stratford house, Birmingham on Google, it's a beautiful old building discreetly converted. It's not just a fad and they are not getting closed down, left right and centre, its not at all for the pervy seedy types or old men any more, its young professionals, it's a huge industry with lots of sexually empowered women, men and young people choosing not to sit at home on forums and laptops working up an unhealthy obsession but rather meet and enjoy sex rather than suppressing their desires. Most are in strong relationships and just want to expand on their love life to make it stronger, try new things and experience what a lot of the world has been doing for years. Dare I say it would likely attract a lot of well off to the city, it's definately something I would consider as part of a night life offering.
I find I always 'expand' when in a lap dancing club ;-)
I find I always 'expand' when in a lap dancing club ;-)
My experience of 'race-goers' is that man struggle to last until 5pm never mind another 12 hours. As to the merits (sic?) of lapdancing clubs; can't see it myself. Old-fartedness setting in?
My experience of 'race-goers' is that man struggle to last until 5pm never mind another 12 hours. As to the merits (sic?) of lapdancing clubs; can't see it myself. Old-fartedness setting in?
LearningBuddha wrote…
The city might benefit more from a classy swingers venue, they are much more inclusive for women and less sexist. Women usually lead activity rather than men. One in Birmingham recently opened, hundreds across the country are licensed. Most big cities have them. Search Tudor lounge, Stratford house, Birmingham on Google, it's a beautiful old building discreetly converted. It's not just a fad and they are not getting closed down, left right and centre, its not at all for the pervy seedy types or old men any more, its young professionals, it's a huge industry with lots of sexually empowered women, men and young people choosing not to sit at home on forums and laptops working up an unhealthy obsession but rather meet and enjoy sex rather than suppressing their desires. Most are in strong relationships and just want to expand on their love life to make it stronger, try new things and experience what a lot of the world has been doing for years. Dare I say it would likely attract a lot of well off to the city, it's definately something I would consider as part of a night life offering.
Certain councillors would be regulars at such an establishment
Rededmilibond:
I just hope no one would bother them if they did.
Mainly those who criticise others do so out of resistance. When they see others beginning to live out their authentic selves it drives them crazy if they have not lived out their own.
Rededmilibond:
I just hope no one would bother them if they did.
Mainly those who criticise others do so out of resistance. When they see others beginning to live out their authentic selves it drives them crazy if they have not lived out their own.
LearningBuddha wrote…
The city might benefit more from a classy swingers venue, they are much more inclusive for women and less sexist. Women usually lead activity rather than men. One in Birmingham recently opened, hundreds across the country are licensed. Most big cities have them. Search Tudor lounge, Stratford house, Birmingham on Google, it's a beautiful old building discreetly converted. It's not just a fad and they are not getting closed down, left right and centre, its not at all for the pervy seedy types or old men any more, its young professionals, it's a huge industry with lots of sexually empowered women, men and young people choosing not to sit at home on forums and laptops working up an unhealthy obsession but rather meet and enjoy sex rather than suppressing their desires. Most are in strong relationships and just want to expand on their love life to make it stronger, try new things and experience what a lot of the world has been doing for years. Dare I say it would likely attract a lot of well off to the city, it's definately something I would consider as part of a night life offering.
Although there isnt one in specifically in york, the area generally is quite well served for swingers!
LearningBuddha wrote…
The city might benefit more from a classy swingers venue, they are much more inclusive for women and less sexist. Women usually lead activity rather than men. One in Birmingham recently opened, hundreds across the country are licensed. Most big cities have them. Search Tudor lounge, Stratford house, Birmingham on Google, it's a beautiful old building discreetly converted. It's not just a fad and they are not getting closed down, left right and centre, its not at all for the pervy seedy types or old men any more, its young professionals, it's a huge industry with lots of sexually empowered women, men and young people choosing not to sit at home on forums and laptops working up an unhealthy obsession but rather meet and enjoy sex rather than suppressing their desires. Most are in strong relationships and just want to expand on their love life to make it stronger, try new things and experience what a lot of the world has been doing for years. Dare I say it would likely attract a lot of well off to the city, it's definately something I would consider as part of a night life offering.
Although there isnt one in specifically in york, the area generally is quite well served for swingers!
"That building is too good to give up on." = "There's too much profit to be had to give up on the idea without an appeal".
"That building is too good to give up on." = "There's too much profit to be had to give up on the idea without an appeal".
He didn't pay a big enough back hander, go back back to them with a bigger offer.
He didn't pay a big enough back hander, go back back to them with a bigger offer.
TheTruthHurts wrote…
LearningBuddha wrote…
The city might benefit more from a classy swingers venue, they are much more inclusive for women and less sexist. Women usually lead activity rather than men. One in Birmingham recently opened, hundreds across the country are licensed. Most big cities have them. Search Tudor lounge, Stratford house, Birmingham on Google, it's a beautiful old building discreetly converted. It's not just a fad and they are not getting closed down, left right and centre, its not at all for the pervy seedy types or old men any more, its young professionals, it's a huge industry with lots of sexually empowered women, men and young people choosing not to sit at home on forums and laptops working up an unhealthy obsession but rather meet and enjoy sex rather than suppressing their desires. Most are in strong relationships and just want to expand on their love life to make it stronger, try new things and experience what a lot of the world has been doing for years. Dare I say it would likely attract a lot of well off to the city, it's definately something I would consider as part of a night life offering.
Yeah, there are a few big bands around playing it now. I love to pop up to Whixley on the first Tuesday of the month to see 'Echo Four Two'
A marvelous big band that really know how to swing!
TheTruthHurts wrote…
LearningBuddha wrote…
The city might benefit more from a classy swingers venue, they are much more inclusive for women and less sexist. Women usually lead activity rather than men. One in Birmingham recently opened, hundreds across the country are licensed. Most big cities have them. Search Tudor lounge, Stratford house, Birmingham on Google, it's a beautiful old building discreetly converted. It's not just a fad and they are not getting closed down, left right and centre, its not at all for the pervy seedy types or old men any more, its young professionals, it's a huge industry with lots of sexually empowered women, men and young people choosing not to sit at home on forums and laptops working up an unhealthy obsession but rather meet and enjoy sex rather than suppressing their desires. Most are in strong relationships and just want to expand on their love life to make it stronger, try new things and experience what a lot of the world has been doing for years. Dare I say it would likely attract a lot of well off to the city, it's definately something I would consider as part of a night life offering.
Yeah, there are a few big bands around playing it now. I love to pop up to Whixley on the first Tuesday of the month to see 'Echo Four Two'
A marvelous big band that really know how to swing!
I could not care less whether there is a club or not but find the reasons for refusal about protecting the listed building a bit odd
cannot see what difference a lap dance makes to the listed status of the building but when struggling to find a reason to refuse any reason will do!!
I could not care less whether there is a club or not but find the reasons for refusal about protecting the listed building a bit odd
cannot see what difference a lap dance makes to the listed status of the building but when struggling to find a reason to refuse any reason will do!!
TheTruthHurts wrote…
LearningBuddha wrote…
The city might benefit more from a classy swingers venue, they are much more inclusive for women and less sexist. Women usually lead activity rather than men. One in Birmingham recently opened, hundreds across the country are licensed. Most big cities have them. Search Tudor lounge, Stratford house, Birmingham on Google, it's a beautiful old building discreetly converted. It's not just a fad and they are not getting closed down, left right and centre, its not at all for the pervy seedy types or old men any more, its young professionals, it's a huge industry with lots of sexually empowered women, men and young people choosing not to sit at home on forums and laptops working up an unhealthy obsession but rather meet and enjoy sex rather than suppressing their desires. Most are in strong relationships and just want to expand on their love life to make it stronger, try new things and experience what a lot of the world has been doing for years. Dare I say it would likely attract a lot of well off to the city, it's definately something I would consider as part of a night life offering.
There's a few swings in Rowntree's Park in the children's play area!
TheTruthHurts wrote…
LearningBuddha wrote…
The city might benefit more from a classy swingers venue, they are much more inclusive for women and less sexist. Women usually lead activity rather than men. One in Birmingham recently opened, hundreds across the country are licensed. Most big cities have them. Search Tudor lounge, Stratford house, Birmingham on Google, it's a beautiful old building discreetly converted. It's not just a fad and they are not getting closed down, left right and centre, its not at all for the pervy seedy types or old men any more, its young professionals, it's a huge industry with lots of sexually empowered women, men and young people choosing not to sit at home on forums and laptops working up an unhealthy obsession but rather meet and enjoy sex rather than suppressing their desires. Most are in strong relationships and just want to expand on their love life to make it stronger, try new things and experience what a lot of the world has been doing for years. Dare I say it would likely attract a lot of well off to the city, it's definately something I would consider as part of a night life offering.
There's a few swings in Rowntree's Park in the children's play area!
The NYPs insistence on having CCTV covering EVERYTHING is the creepiest thing, not to say off-putting for all concerned! Another step down the road to a surveillance state I suppose.
Impressed they thought there would be customers so late in the night/early in the morning, on a race day!
The NYPs insistence on having CCTV covering EVERYTHING is the creepiest thing, not to say off-putting for all concerned! Another step down the road to a surveillance state I suppose.
Impressed they thought there would be customers so late in the night/early in the morning, on a race day!
is there a council run dogging area?
is there a council run dogging area?
yorkresident007 wrote…
is there a council run dogging area?
They would only make a mess of it.
yorkresident007 wrote…
is there a council run dogging area?
They would only make a mess of it.