Lunchtime meals to be axed at sheltered housing schemes in York

Paul Edmondson-Jones

Paul Edmondson-Jones

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LUNCH is being axed by City of York Council at four sheltered housing schemes in York.

The authority says that following a period of consultation with tenants and staff, it is bringing its lunchtime meals provision in line with the wider service delivered across the city.

The changes will affect about 70 residents at Gale Farm Court, Barstow House, Glen Lodge and Marjorie Waite Court sheltered housing developments.

Paul Edmondson-Jones, Director of Health and Wellbeing, said the council will stop the existing discretionary lunchtime meals service next month.

“Currently, just 70 tenants regularly use the discretionary hot lunch provision – less than 30 per cent of customers in our Sheltered Housing developments – and numbers are declining," he said. " As a result, the council is now subsidising the service by £50,000 per year.

“Some of the tenants using the service receive care and support from the council’s in-house support team, but others are fully independent. From October, tenants who have been assessed as needing help to prepare their meals will continue to receive support to make their own lunches, in the same way they do with other meals.

“We’ve met with tenants affected by this change and given information on alternative lunch options available and we will be working with them to ensure that they have arrangements in place for a nutritious lunch once the existing service ends. We will also continue to work with tenants to ensure that there are regular social activities and events within their housing developments.”

The change has been branded 'deeply worrying' by Liberal Democrat councillor Nigel Ayre, who said it was believed that most residents thought they were being consulted on changes to how the meals would be provided, not the termination of the service.

Cllr Ayre, the party's spokesperson for Finance, Performance and Health, claimed the decision also appeared to have been taken by the Labour-run council behind-closed-doors and away from proper public or political scrutiny, with no other options openly considered.

“I know that the social side of lunch is particularly valued by many residents of sheltered accommodation who otherwise risk becoming isolated in their own flats," he said. "Tenants have asked for the quality of their meals to be improved not for them to be scrapped.

“We know that Labour has lost control of the adult social care budget and missed its key savings targets. I fear that what we are seeing is an attempt to balance the books on the back of vulnerable residents by withdrawing this service.

“No doubt Labour will try to blame the government, residents or anyone else for this; however, the reality is that their own auditors have raised concerns that the council is not delivering value for money in adult social care. This is not about government cuts it is about the Cabinet Member’s failure to use the budget correctly.”

But Labour's Cabinet Member for Heath and Community Engagement, Coun. Linsay Cunningham-Cross said the council was facing unprecedented level of cuts and having to make difficult choices about how it provided its services.

"Every resident who needs support with meals will still receive this support but in a way that suits their own needs," she said.

"We want to give residents control over their own lives and make choices about where and how they access meals whether that be in their own homes or making use of local community groups or other local facilities.

"I look forward to meeting with residents across all four schemes in the coming weeks to see how we can work together and improve links with the wider community."

 

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12:14pm Thu 4 Sep 14

York1234 says...

As a result, the council is now subsidising the service by £50,000 per year.

And funnily £50,000 is what Stuart admitted in an FOI from CYC it set aside each year for international travel,

It's funny how CYC prioritise international travel over this.
As a result, the council is now subsidising the service by £50,000 per year. And funnily £50,000 is what Stuart admitted in an FOI from CYC it set aside each year for international travel, It's funny how CYC prioritise international travel over this. York1234
  • Score: -3

12:24pm Thu 4 Sep 14

gmc_1963 says...

It's not the percentage of residents that use it which is the correct measure but the percentage of those who use who need it.
It's not the percentage of residents that use it which is the correct measure but the percentage of those who use who need it. gmc_1963
  • Score: 45

12:28pm Thu 4 Sep 14

CaroleBaines says...

Seems a real shame. Don't like it when a Labour council seems not to be defending those most in need.
Seems a real shame. Don't like it when a Labour council seems not to be defending those most in need. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 43

1:25pm Thu 4 Sep 14

marvell says...

Usual lazy uniformed message from the utterly incompetent Cllr Linsay Cunningham-Cross. Labour haven't a clue what they are doing which is why they are desperately trying to cover it up and stop the public getting sight of their actions. This explains why everything requires a Freedom of Information (FOI) request these days.

It's about priorities and the bald facts are that Labour have spent money on unecessary vanity schemes they think will boost their personal images whilst ignoring (or axing) what they see as tedious unglamorous stuff like lunch in sheltered housing.
Usual lazy uniformed message from the utterly incompetent Cllr Linsay Cunningham-Cross. Labour haven't a clue what they are doing which is why they are desperately trying to cover it up and stop the public getting sight of their actions. This explains why everything requires a Freedom of Information (FOI) request these days. It's about priorities and the bald facts are that Labour have spent money on unecessary vanity schemes they think will boost their personal images whilst ignoring (or axing) what they see as tedious unglamorous stuff like lunch in sheltered housing. marvell
  • Score: 47

1:35pm Thu 4 Sep 14

gerry1962 says...

The first we knew about it was a letter received a couple of days ago. They hinted at changes about a month ago but nothing concrete. The meals are quite often rubbish anyway, not at all nutritious, mainly slop.
The first we knew about it was a letter received a couple of days ago. They hinted at changes about a month ago but nothing concrete. The meals are quite often rubbish anyway, not at all nutritious, mainly slop. gerry1962
  • Score: 5

1:35pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Yorkies4girls says...

Prisoners are provided with 3 meals a day, it reminds me of a joke I heard that they should put all the elderly population into jail and the jailbirds into sheltered accommodation, you would laugh if it wasn't so serious!
Prisoners are provided with 3 meals a day, it reminds me of a joke I heard that they should put all the elderly population into jail and the jailbirds into sheltered accommodation, you would laugh if it wasn't so serious! Yorkies4girls
  • Score: 48

2:23pm Thu 4 Sep 14

only human says...

Yet another stab in the back for our vulnerable.can you imagine the outcry if free school meals were suddenly withdrawn
These people have complex
care needs and the hot meals service is a vital element to that care.
Many of these people will now be awarded a paltry 15 minute lunch call whereby a carer will go into their home and prepare cook and serve a nutricious hot meal from scratch.However in the majority of cases people will be supplied with microwave chicken ding type rubbish orpaltryfarm foods garbage.My question to the orchestrator of these savagecutbacks is would you serve it to your own parents
Yet another stab in the back for our vulnerable.can you imagine the outcry if free school meals were suddenly withdrawn These people have complex care needs and the hot meals service is a vital element to that care. Many of these people will now be awarded a paltry 15 minute lunch call whereby a carer will go into their home and prepare cook and serve a nutricious hot meal from scratch.However in the majority of cases people will be supplied with microwave chicken ding type rubbish orpaltryfarm foods garbage.My question to the orchestrator of these savagecutbacks is would you serve it to your own parents only human
  • Score: 34

2:49pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Ichabod76 says...

Whilst I agree that the statement from Linsay Cunningham-Cross is the usual Labour drivel about government cuts

You can't deny that she has been handed a poison chalice by Tracy Simpson Laing who's complete failure to manage adult social care cost her the job and is the reason the service is in such a state and where the blame lies.

Maybe more consultants on £700 a day could solve the problem, or get rid of them and provide the meals !
Whilst I agree that the statement from Linsay Cunningham-Cross is the usual Labour drivel about government cuts You can't deny that she has been handed a poison chalice by Tracy Simpson Laing who's complete failure to manage adult social care cost her the job and is the reason the service is in such a state and where the blame lies. Maybe more consultants on £700 a day could solve the problem, or get rid of them and provide the meals ! Ichabod76
  • Score: -7

2:56pm Thu 4 Sep 14

York1900 says...

I have never known a Labour controlled council cut services for the less well off and weak in society so much like this Labour council

These plans sound like George Osborne plans to make people work to 70 and drop

People go into sheltered accommodation because they need some form of help in looking after themselves

This is just the tip of the iceberg of how thing are going for the elderly and disabled

This just stops short of saying your no use to society so we help you on your way to your grave
I have never known a Labour controlled council cut services for the less well off and weak in society so much like this Labour council These plans sound like George Osborne plans to make people work to 70 and drop People go into sheltered accommodation because they need some form of help in looking after themselves This is just the tip of the iceberg of how thing are going for the elderly and disabled This just stops short of saying your no use to society so we help you on your way to your grave York1900
  • Score: -7

2:57pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Jalymo says...

What an absolute disgrace. This Council are the absolute limit. Targeting the aged and vulnerable, who have no way of fighting back to save their amenities. Communal eating is essential for socialising, a reason to be with others. Shameful, but not altogether surprising with the shambolic way this Council is run.
What an absolute disgrace. This Council are the absolute limit. Targeting the aged and vulnerable, who have no way of fighting back to save their amenities. Communal eating is essential for socialising, a reason to be with others. Shameful, but not altogether surprising with the shambolic way this Council is run. Jalymo
  • Score: -4

3:05pm Thu 4 Sep 14

acomblass says...

Oh the irony! Linsay Cunningham Cross awarded £10,000 for coming up with a model for "increasing engagement and participation in local democracy" pays lip service to actual consultation with residents.

Make no mistake the people in these homes are frail, elderly and vulnerable and need the "with care" element to prevent admissions to nursing homes. There may be some who are more able than others but the proper criteria should be used by CYC for selecting people for these homes as vacancies arise.

I wonder how much the "gagging" clause to buy the silence of those recently departed from Adult Social Services has cost.

Interesting when it is bad news that PEJ - on handsome income from the Council and his Army pension - is trotted out to calm the natives whilst the real decision makers hide.
Oh the irony! Linsay Cunningham Cross awarded £10,000 for coming up with a model for "increasing engagement and participation in local democracy" pays lip service to actual consultation with residents. Make no mistake the people in these homes are frail, elderly and vulnerable and need the "with care" element to prevent admissions to nursing homes. There may be some who are more able than others but the proper criteria should be used by CYC for selecting people for these homes as vacancies arise. I wonder how much the "gagging" clause to buy the silence of those recently departed from Adult Social Services has cost. Interesting when it is bad news that PEJ - on handsome income from the Council and his Army pension - is trotted out to calm the natives whilst the real decision makers hide. acomblass
  • Score: 4

3:15pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Meirion M says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
Whilst I agree that the statement from Linsay Cunningham-Cross is the usual Labour drivel about government cuts

You can't deny that she has been handed a poison chalice by Tracy Simpson Laing who's complete failure to manage adult social care cost her the job and is the reason the service is in such a state and where the blame lies.

Maybe more consultants on £700 a day could solve the problem, or get rid of them and provide the meals !
If L.C.C. is given the "usual drivel", as you say, she has only months before the local Labour mafia are OUT of control of OUR city.
Good riddance to Alexander, Merrit, and that band when they have to find proper jobs.
Alexander for Pound shop!
Roll on May 2015.
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: Whilst I agree that the statement from Linsay Cunningham-Cross is the usual Labour drivel about government cuts You can't deny that she has been handed a poison chalice by Tracy Simpson Laing who's complete failure to manage adult social care cost her the job and is the reason the service is in such a state and where the blame lies. Maybe more consultants on £700 a day could solve the problem, or get rid of them and provide the meals ![/p][/quote]If L.C.C. is given the "usual drivel", as you say, she has only months before the local Labour mafia are OUT of control of OUR city. Good riddance to Alexander, Merrit, and that band when they have to find proper jobs. Alexander for Pound shop! Roll on May 2015. Meirion M
  • Score: -12

4:25pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Fanny Free House says...

1.
But Labour's Cabinet Member for Heath and Community Engagement, Coun. Linsay Cunningham-Cross said the council was facing unprecedented level of cuts and having to make difficult choices about how it provided its services.

2.
"Every resident who needs support"

3.
"We want to give residents control over their own lives"

4.
"I look forward to meeting with residents across all four schemes in the coming weeks to see how we can work together"

1. Blame the cuts.

2. Claim commitment to residents.

3. Secondary justification, so is it the cuts or residents control over their own lives.

4. Not really looking forward to meeting residents, will be arranged for the least attendance possible, venue probably outer Mongolia.

Cunningham-Cross is talking absolute TOSH, Labour have wasted money hand over fist and someone (the most venerable) are now having to pay for it.
1. But Labour's Cabinet Member for Heath and Community Engagement, Coun. Linsay Cunningham-Cross said the council was facing unprecedented level of cuts and having to make difficult choices about how it provided its services. 2. "Every resident who needs support" 3. "We want to give residents control over their own lives" 4. "I look forward to meeting with residents across all four schemes in the coming weeks to see how we can work together" 1. Blame the cuts. 2. Claim commitment to residents. 3. Secondary justification, so is it the cuts or residents control over their own lives. 4. Not really looking forward to meeting residents, will be arranged for the least attendance possible, venue probably outer Mongolia. Cunningham-Cross is talking absolute TOSH, Labour have wasted money hand over fist and someone (the most venerable) are now having to pay for it. Fanny Free House
  • Score: -13

5:38pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Sally Hyland says...

Sally Hyland York

One reason numbers are declining for the provision of a hot lunch in sheltered accommodation, could be due to the fact that some residents are either not elderly, do not need care, have jobs or are out at work most of the day.
Regarding the £50,000 subsidy to the service. Please could a breakdown of the figures be made available.
Sally Hyland York One reason numbers are declining for the provision of a hot lunch in sheltered accommodation, could be due to the fact that some residents are either not elderly, do not need care, have jobs or are out at work most of the day. Regarding the £50,000 subsidy to the service. Please could a breakdown of the figures be made available. Sally Hyland
  • Score: 7

5:50pm Thu 4 Sep 14

bloodaxe says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
Seems a real shame. Don't like it when a Labour council seems not to be defending those most in need.
It doesn't actually say that. Anyway, this is part of the government's strategy, to make local government take the knock rather have the opprobrium heaped upon those who made the real cuts, which, according to the latest figures for 2009 onwards, were much more stringent than need have been the case.
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: Seems a real shame. Don't like it when a Labour council seems not to be defending those most in need.[/p][/quote]It doesn't actually say that. Anyway, this is part of the government's strategy, to make local government take the knock rather have the opprobrium heaped upon those who made the real cuts, which, according to the latest figures for 2009 onwards, were much more stringent than need have been the case. bloodaxe
  • Score: -14

6:11pm Thu 4 Sep 14

deckhanddave says...

I'll swap one 20mph sign for say, 3 lunches or maybe 5, maybe even more. How many deaths and injuries have been saved by the 20mph speed limit being brought in? Myopic ****s.
I'll swap one 20mph sign for say, 3 lunches or maybe 5, maybe even more. How many deaths and injuries have been saved by the 20mph speed limit being brought in? Myopic ****s. deckhanddave
  • Score: -24

6:21pm Thu 4 Sep 14

only human says...

Adult services have been in meltdown for around 4 years now and we are seeing the pyramid of inadequate managers topple as a result of incompetance and total disregard for the people who depend on the service and their families.
The removal of the one hot meal many of these elderly and disabled are accustomed to receiving within the sheltered housing with extra care facility is almost always the only source of hot food these people get.
Be under no illusions here,the people who will be directly affected will now be left behind their front doors from the moment the care staff get them up , washed and dressed until they return to make their delicious microwave slop tv meal for one or dry sandwich and cake for tea.
The will be allocated just 15 minutes in most cases and i am sure the readers of this will understand how difficult it is to prepare and cook a meal of any eal nutricious substance in such a paltry amount of time.
Then there are those who are unable or virtually unable to feed themselves for various reasons from stroke to disabilities.They will be getting their food hot from the microwave and shoved into their mouths as quick as possible in order to meet the new lunch time regime within these settings.
Have any of these decision makers ever tried to eat a hot meal off a tray balanced on your knee in front of the tv because this is how some of these people will be left to eat,unsafe,unsupervi
sed and uncared for.
There will no longer be the community dining experience where friendships have been built up over many years between people who cant even get out of their armchair unaided let alone walk the length of some of the corridors to visit their friends.Lunchtime is their only socialising event.It gives their day structure and meaning.
How can we put a cost on this.
The chances are that some of these affected people will now eat less substantial food and end up in hospital or become severely depressed.
Its true that most of them would be better off living in a prison.They would get good food free several times a day and have access to decent medical and dental care and receive entertainment and regular visitors.
Lets swap and put some of todays prisoners in the sheltered housing schemes and see how long they put up with it.
I think this sounds like a prelude to privatising the last of the council run care facilities and getting care provided on the cheap.
Mark my words if you pay peanuts you can guarantee getting monkeys.
So thanks to the shambles of care management in york over recent years, i hope every one of you who have had a hand in running the adult and care services into the ground live to reap what you have sown.
I know i am glad my parents arent around to suffer this indignity.
I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER AND LEAVE THE HOT MEALS IN PLACE.HAVE PITY ON YORKS VULNERABLE.
Adult services have been in meltdown for around 4 years now and we are seeing the pyramid of inadequate managers topple as a result of incompetance and total disregard for the people who depend on the service and their families. The removal of the one hot meal many of these elderly and disabled are accustomed to receiving within the sheltered housing with extra care facility is almost always the only source of hot food these people get. Be under no illusions here,the people who will be directly affected will now be left behind their front doors from the moment the care staff get them up , washed and dressed until they return to make their delicious microwave slop tv meal for one or dry sandwich and cake for tea. The will be allocated just 15 minutes in most cases and i am sure the readers of this will understand how difficult it is to prepare and cook a meal of any eal nutricious substance in such a paltry amount of time. Then there are those who are unable or virtually unable to feed themselves for various reasons from stroke to disabilities.They will be getting their food hot from the microwave and shoved into their mouths as quick as possible in order to meet the new lunch time regime within these settings. Have any of these decision makers ever tried to eat a hot meal off a tray balanced on your knee in front of the tv because this is how some of these people will be left to eat,unsafe,unsupervi sed and uncared for. There will no longer be the community dining experience where friendships have been built up over many years between people who cant even get out of their armchair unaided let alone walk the length of some of the corridors to visit their friends.Lunchtime is their only socialising event.It gives their day structure and meaning. How can we put a cost on this. The chances are that some of these affected people will now eat less substantial food and end up in hospital or become severely depressed. Its true that most of them would be better off living in a prison.They would get good food free several times a day and have access to decent medical and dental care and receive entertainment and regular visitors. Lets swap and put some of todays prisoners in the sheltered housing schemes and see how long they put up with it. I think this sounds like a prelude to privatising the last of the council run care facilities and getting care provided on the cheap. Mark my words if you pay peanuts you can guarantee getting monkeys. So thanks to the shambles of care management in york over recent years, i hope every one of you who have had a hand in running the adult and care services into the ground live to reap what you have sown. I know i am glad my parents arent around to suffer this indignity. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER AND LEAVE THE HOT MEALS IN PLACE.HAVE PITY ON YORKS VULNERABLE. only human
  • Score: 31

6:34pm Thu 4 Sep 14

julia brica says...

only human wrote:
Adult services have been in meltdown for around 4 years now and we are seeing the pyramid of inadequate managers topple as a result of incompetance and total disregard for the people who depend on the service and their families.
The removal of the one hot meal many of these elderly and disabled are accustomed to receiving within the sheltered housing with extra care facility is almost always the only source of hot food these people get.
Be under no illusions here,the people who will be directly affected will now be left behind their front doors from the moment the care staff get them up , washed and dressed until they return to make their delicious microwave slop tv meal for one or dry sandwich and cake for tea.
The will be allocated just 15 minutes in most cases and i am sure the readers of this will understand how difficult it is to prepare and cook a meal of any eal nutricious substance in such a paltry amount of time.
Then there are those who are unable or virtually unable to feed themselves for various reasons from stroke to disabilities.They will be getting their food hot from the microwave and shoved into their mouths as quick as possible in order to meet the new lunch time regime within these settings.
Have any of these decision makers ever tried to eat a hot meal off a tray balanced on your knee in front of the tv because this is how some of these people will be left to eat,unsafe,unsupervi

sed and uncared for.
There will no longer be the community dining experience where friendships have been built up over many years between people who cant even get out of their armchair unaided let alone walk the length of some of the corridors to visit their friends.Lunchtime is their only socialising event.It gives their day structure and meaning.
How can we put a cost on this.
The chances are that some of these affected people will now eat less substantial food and end up in hospital or become severely depressed.
Its true that most of them would be better off living in a prison.They would get good food free several times a day and have access to decent medical and dental care and receive entertainment and regular visitors.
Lets swap and put some of todays prisoners in the sheltered housing schemes and see how long they put up with it.
I think this sounds like a prelude to privatising the last of the council run care facilities and getting care provided on the cheap.
Mark my words if you pay peanuts you can guarantee getting monkeys.
So thanks to the shambles of care management in york over recent years, i hope every one of you who have had a hand in running the adult and care services into the ground live to reap what you have sown.
I know i am glad my parents arent around to suffer this indignity.
I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER AND LEAVE THE HOT MEALS IN PLACE.HAVE PITY ON YORKS VULNERABLE.
Hear hear. Well said. Labour should be ashamed.
[quote][p][bold]only human[/bold] wrote: Adult services have been in meltdown for around 4 years now and we are seeing the pyramid of inadequate managers topple as a result of incompetance and total disregard for the people who depend on the service and their families. The removal of the one hot meal many of these elderly and disabled are accustomed to receiving within the sheltered housing with extra care facility is almost always the only source of hot food these people get. Be under no illusions here,the people who will be directly affected will now be left behind their front doors from the moment the care staff get them up , washed and dressed until they return to make their delicious microwave slop tv meal for one or dry sandwich and cake for tea. The will be allocated just 15 minutes in most cases and i am sure the readers of this will understand how difficult it is to prepare and cook a meal of any eal nutricious substance in such a paltry amount of time. Then there are those who are unable or virtually unable to feed themselves for various reasons from stroke to disabilities.They will be getting their food hot from the microwave and shoved into their mouths as quick as possible in order to meet the new lunch time regime within these settings. Have any of these decision makers ever tried to eat a hot meal off a tray balanced on your knee in front of the tv because this is how some of these people will be left to eat,unsafe,unsupervi sed and uncared for. There will no longer be the community dining experience where friendships have been built up over many years between people who cant even get out of their armchair unaided let alone walk the length of some of the corridors to visit their friends.Lunchtime is their only socialising event.It gives their day structure and meaning. How can we put a cost on this. The chances are that some of these affected people will now eat less substantial food and end up in hospital or become severely depressed. Its true that most of them would be better off living in a prison.They would get good food free several times a day and have access to decent medical and dental care and receive entertainment and regular visitors. Lets swap and put some of todays prisoners in the sheltered housing schemes and see how long they put up with it. I think this sounds like a prelude to privatising the last of the council run care facilities and getting care provided on the cheap. Mark my words if you pay peanuts you can guarantee getting monkeys. So thanks to the shambles of care management in york over recent years, i hope every one of you who have had a hand in running the adult and care services into the ground live to reap what you have sown. I know i am glad my parents arent around to suffer this indignity. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER AND LEAVE THE HOT MEALS IN PLACE.HAVE PITY ON YORKS VULNERABLE.[/p][/quote]Hear hear. Well said. Labour should be ashamed. julia brica
  • Score: -13

6:57pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Jack Ham says...

bloodaxe wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
Seems a real shame. Don't like it when a Labour council seems not to be defending those most in need.
It doesn't actually say that. Anyway, this is part of the government's strategy, to make local government take the knock rather have the opprobrium heaped upon those who made the real cuts, which, according to the latest figures for 2009 onwards, were much more stringent than need have been the case.
Only Bloodaxe AKA Cllr Sonja Crisp would have the front to come onto the comments page and defend this disgraceful cut.

Labour have decimated social care over the last few years whilst at the same time wasted millions, literally millions on vanity projects that serve no purpose other than to boost their own egos.

Cutting lunches to the old folks is a low even I never imagined they would stoop too.

Allowing Paul Edmonson Jones - a man who they pay over £150,000 every year plus pension and bonus to make the announcement jut rubs salt in the wounds.
[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: Seems a real shame. Don't like it when a Labour council seems not to be defending those most in need.[/p][/quote]It doesn't actually say that. Anyway, this is part of the government's strategy, to make local government take the knock rather have the opprobrium heaped upon those who made the real cuts, which, according to the latest figures for 2009 onwards, were much more stringent than need have been the case.[/p][/quote]Only Bloodaxe AKA Cllr Sonja Crisp would have the front to come onto the comments page and defend this disgraceful cut. Labour have decimated social care over the last few years whilst at the same time wasted millions, literally millions on vanity projects that serve no purpose other than to boost their own egos. Cutting lunches to the old folks is a low even I never imagined they would stoop too. Allowing Paul Edmonson Jones - a man who they pay over £150,000 every year plus pension and bonus to make the announcement jut rubs salt in the wounds. Jack Ham
  • Score: -11

7:03pm Thu 4 Sep 14

yorkandproud says...

Sally Hyland wrote:
Sally Hyland York

One reason numbers are declining for the provision of a hot lunch in sheltered accommodation, could be due to the fact that some residents are either not elderly, do not need care, have jobs or are out at work most of the day.
Regarding the £50,000 subsidy to the service. Please could a breakdown of the figures be made available.
My mum lives in Barstow House, and in the last couple of days she got a letter to say that the lunchtime meals were to be terminated. I found out today, when she rang me and said that there had been a meeting , and she had forgotten to tell me about it, so I wasn't present. My Mum is 100 next May, and really enjoys her meal at lunchtime. It's not just the meal, but it gets her out of her flat, and she loves the interaction with her friends. You may say this is great but can COYC continue to do this ? Well , actually, these Ladies and Gentleman pay for their lunch, so why are they cutting this essential service for our elderly residents Of York. I tell you what, let's confine them to their own flats with a microwave meal. It's a disgrace. COYC , hang your heads in shame.
[quote][p][bold]Sally Hyland[/bold] wrote: Sally Hyland York One reason numbers are declining for the provision of a hot lunch in sheltered accommodation, could be due to the fact that some residents are either not elderly, do not need care, have jobs or are out at work most of the day. Regarding the £50,000 subsidy to the service. Please could a breakdown of the figures be made available.[/p][/quote]My mum lives in Barstow House, and in the last couple of days she got a letter to say that the lunchtime meals were to be terminated. I found out today, when she rang me and said that there had been a meeting , and she had forgotten to tell me about it, so I wasn't present. My Mum is 100 next May, and really enjoys her meal at lunchtime. It's not just the meal, but it gets her out of her flat, and she loves the interaction with her friends. You may say this is great but can COYC continue to do this ? Well , actually, these Ladies and Gentleman pay for their lunch, so why are they cutting this essential service for our elderly residents Of York. I tell you what, let's confine them to their own flats with a microwave meal. It's a disgrace. COYC , hang your heads in shame. yorkandproud
  • Score: 28

7:24pm Thu 4 Sep 14

oi oi savaloy says...

But Labour's Cabinet Member for Heath and Community Engagement, Coun. Linsay Cunningham-Cross said the council was facing unprecedented level of cuts and having to make difficult choices about how it provided its services.

Remind me again how much you pay the likes of k.e. and p.e-j. per day??

Oh AND how much will the trip to San francisco to check up on the sunday street closure thing cost us the York residents??

York labour and the council are a joke!
But Labour's Cabinet Member for Heath and Community Engagement, Coun. Linsay Cunningham-Cross said the council was facing unprecedented level of cuts and having to make difficult choices about how it provided its services. Remind me again how much you pay the likes of k.e. and p.e-j. per day?? Oh AND how much will the trip to San francisco to check up on the sunday street closure thing cost us the York residents?? York labour and the council are a joke! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: 3

7:32pm Thu 4 Sep 14

oi oi savaloy says...

deckhanddave wrote:
I'll swap one 20mph sign for say, 3 lunches or maybe 5, maybe even more. How many deaths and injuries have been saved by the 20mph speed limit being brought in? Myopic ****s.
Good one! what was it £600,00 to start with and then another £200,000 for north York?

thats a lot of £50,000's .... 16 years that they wouldn't of had to subsidise
[quote][p][bold]deckhanddave[/bold] wrote: I'll swap one 20mph sign for say, 3 lunches or maybe 5, maybe even more. How many deaths and injuries have been saved by the 20mph speed limit being brought in? Myopic ****s.[/p][/quote]Good one! what was it £600,00 to start with and then another £200,000 for north York? thats a lot of £50,000's .... 16 years that they wouldn't of had to subsidise oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -20

8:24pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Jack Ham says...

yorkandproud wrote:
Sally Hyland wrote:
Sally Hyland York

One reason numbers are declining for the provision of a hot lunch in sheltered accommodation, could be due to the fact that some residents are either not elderly, do not need care, have jobs or are out at work most of the day.
Regarding the £50,000 subsidy to the service. Please could a breakdown of the figures be made available.
My mum lives in Barstow House, and in the last couple of days she got a letter to say that the lunchtime meals were to be terminated. I found out today, when she rang me and said that there had been a meeting , and she had forgotten to tell me about it, so I wasn't present. My Mum is 100 next May, and really enjoys her meal at lunchtime. It's not just the meal, but it gets her out of her flat, and she loves the interaction with her friends. You may say this is great but can COYC continue to do this ? Well , actually, these Ladies and Gentleman pay for their lunch, so why are they cutting this essential service for our elderly residents Of York. I tell you what, let's confine them to their own flats with a microwave meal. It's a disgrace. COYC , hang your heads in shame.
Well said.

York Press should print this comment on their front page. It blows the lid on the appalling behaviour of CYC and York Labour.
[quote][p][bold]yorkandproud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sally Hyland[/bold] wrote: Sally Hyland York One reason numbers are declining for the provision of a hot lunch in sheltered accommodation, could be due to the fact that some residents are either not elderly, do not need care, have jobs or are out at work most of the day. Regarding the £50,000 subsidy to the service. Please could a breakdown of the figures be made available.[/p][/quote]My mum lives in Barstow House, and in the last couple of days she got a letter to say that the lunchtime meals were to be terminated. I found out today, when she rang me and said that there had been a meeting , and she had forgotten to tell me about it, so I wasn't present. My Mum is 100 next May, and really enjoys her meal at lunchtime. It's not just the meal, but it gets her out of her flat, and she loves the interaction with her friends. You may say this is great but can COYC continue to do this ? Well , actually, these Ladies and Gentleman pay for their lunch, so why are they cutting this essential service for our elderly residents Of York. I tell you what, let's confine them to their own flats with a microwave meal. It's a disgrace. COYC , hang your heads in shame.[/p][/quote]Well said. York Press should print this comment on their front page. It blows the lid on the appalling behaviour of CYC and York Labour. Jack Ham
  • Score: 3

8:25pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Jack Ham says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
deckhanddave wrote:
I'll swap one 20mph sign for say, 3 lunches or maybe 5, maybe even more. How many deaths and injuries have been saved by the 20mph speed limit being brought in? Myopic ****s.
Good one! what was it £600,00 to start with and then another £200,000 for north York?

thats a lot of £50,000's .... 16 years that they wouldn't of had to subsidise
James Alexander never was very good with money. He needed a loan from CYC (aka US!) when he came into office and has presided over continual overspends ever since.

Shameful.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deckhanddave[/bold] wrote: I'll swap one 20mph sign for say, 3 lunches or maybe 5, maybe even more. How many deaths and injuries have been saved by the 20mph speed limit being brought in? Myopic ****s.[/p][/quote]Good one! what was it £600,00 to start with and then another £200,000 for north York? thats a lot of £50,000's .... 16 years that they wouldn't of had to subsidise[/p][/quote]James Alexander never was very good with money. He needed a loan from CYC (aka US!) when he came into office and has presided over continual overspends ever since. Shameful. Jack Ham
  • Score: 3

10:17pm Thu 4 Sep 14

I'msohappy.com says...

A totally discusting way to treat the elderly, £50,000 on the grand scheme of things is pittance when it helps so many people on a daily basis. With only a few weeks notice as well it looks to me like CYC knew they would get some backlash so they left it as long as possible before telling all concerned.
A totally discusting way to treat the elderly, £50,000 on the grand scheme of things is pittance when it helps so many people on a daily basis. With only a few weeks notice as well it looks to me like CYC knew they would get some backlash so they left it as long as possible before telling all concerned. I'msohappy.com
  • Score: -10

10:45pm Thu 4 Sep 14

Fanny Free House says...

I'msohappy.com wrote:
A totally discusting way to treat the elderly, £50,000 on the grand scheme of things is pittance when it helps so many people on a daily basis. With only a few weeks notice as well it looks to me like CYC knew they would get some backlash so they left it as long as possible before telling all concerned.
And isn't that the truth, well put.

But never mind the tourists are happy with the free wifi clearly a lack of responsibility when it comes to priorities.

And of course the residents of York will understand, after all the paranoid score adjusters have just made absolute fools of themselves on this issue. But hey ho, thats the methods used to get the 20mph blanket speed restrictions in place, so why not.

Roll on May 2015 when justice will be served.
[quote][p][bold]I'msohappy.com[/bold] wrote: A totally discusting way to treat the elderly, £50,000 on the grand scheme of things is pittance when it helps so many people on a daily basis. With only a few weeks notice as well it looks to me like CYC knew they would get some backlash so they left it as long as possible before telling all concerned.[/p][/quote]And isn't that the truth, well put. But never mind the tourists are happy with the free wifi clearly a lack of responsibility when it comes to priorities. And of course the residents of York will understand, after all the paranoid score adjusters have just made absolute fools of themselves on this issue. But hey ho, thats the methods used to get the 20mph blanket speed restrictions in place, so why not. Roll on May 2015 when justice will be served. Fanny Free House
  • Score: -15

11:54pm Thu 4 Sep 14

phud says...

York1234 wrote:
As a result, the council is now subsidising the service by £50,000 per year.

And funnily £50,000 is what Stuart admitted in an FOI from CYC it set aside each year for international travel,

It's funny how CYC prioritise international travel over this.
My Mum lives in Glen Lodge. She is 90. In May, there was a meeting and they were asked if they wanted to keep their lunches. They all said Yes. That was the consultation. As well as losing their lunches, two members of staff are being made redundant. Most of the residents who have lunch are 80's,90's and 100's and can't get far. They enjoyed meeting up for dinner. It was suggested to them at a meeting on Thursday that they could make their own dinner in their flats and take them down to the communal room
[quote][p][bold]York1234[/bold] wrote: As a result, the council is now subsidising the service by £50,000 per year. And funnily £50,000 is what Stuart admitted in an FOI from CYC it set aside each year for international travel, It's funny how CYC prioritise international travel over this.[/p][/quote]My Mum lives in Glen Lodge. She is 90. In May, there was a meeting and they were asked if they wanted to keep their lunches. They all said Yes. That was the consultation. As well as losing their lunches, two members of staff are being made redundant. Most of the residents who have lunch are 80's,90's and 100's and can't get far. They enjoyed meeting up for dinner. It was suggested to them at a meeting on Thursday that they could make their own dinner in their flats and take them down to the communal room phud
  • Score: 12

8:53am Fri 5 Sep 14

Blythespirit says...

Seems like the local Labour party have been hacking the minus buttons again. Sort it out Press. It's pathetic.
Seems like the local Labour party have been hacking the minus buttons again. Sort it out Press. It's pathetic. Blythespirit
  • Score: -13

9:06am Fri 5 Sep 14

Jack Ham says...

phud wrote:
York1234 wrote:
As a result, the council is now subsidising the service by £50,000 per year.

And funnily £50,000 is what Stuart admitted in an FOI from CYC it set aside each year for international travel,

It's funny how CYC prioritise international travel over this.
My Mum lives in Glen Lodge. She is 90. In May, there was a meeting and they were asked if they wanted to keep their lunches. They all said Yes. That was the consultation. As well as losing their lunches, two members of staff are being made redundant. Most of the residents who have lunch are 80's,90's and 100's and can't get far. They enjoyed meeting up for dinner. It was suggested to them at a meeting on Thursday that they could make their own dinner in their flats and take them down to the communal room
And there it is in a single paragraph. The sham of York Labours 'consultation'

I thought Lendal Bridge would be their lowest point but taking food from vulnerable old folks to fund vanity projects and foreign trips takes it to a whole new level.
[quote][p][bold]phud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]York1234[/bold] wrote: As a result, the council is now subsidising the service by £50,000 per year. And funnily £50,000 is what Stuart admitted in an FOI from CYC it set aside each year for international travel, It's funny how CYC prioritise international travel over this.[/p][/quote]My Mum lives in Glen Lodge. She is 90. In May, there was a meeting and they were asked if they wanted to keep their lunches. They all said Yes. That was the consultation. As well as losing their lunches, two members of staff are being made redundant. Most of the residents who have lunch are 80's,90's and 100's and can't get far. They enjoyed meeting up for dinner. It was suggested to them at a meeting on Thursday that they could make their own dinner in their flats and take them down to the communal room[/p][/quote]And there it is in a single paragraph. The sham of York Labours 'consultation' I thought Lendal Bridge would be their lowest point but taking food from vulnerable old folks to fund vanity projects and foreign trips takes it to a whole new level. Jack Ham
  • Score: -7

9:30am Fri 5 Sep 14

Fanny Free House says...

It takes a special kind of selfish person to ignore vulnerable people in favour of vanity projects.
It takes a special kind of selfish person to ignore vulnerable people in favour of vanity projects. Fanny Free House
  • Score: -19

10:31am Fri 5 Sep 14

Older Sometimes Wiser says...

only human wrote:
Adult services have been in meltdown for around 4 years now and we are seeing the pyramid of inadequate managers topple as a result of incompetance and total disregard for the people who depend on the service and their families.
The removal of the one hot meal many of these elderly and disabled are accustomed to receiving within the sheltered housing with extra care facility is almost always the only source of hot food these people get.
Be under no illusions here,the people who will be directly affected will now be left behind their front doors from the moment the care staff get them up , washed and dressed until they return to make their delicious microwave slop tv meal for one or dry sandwich and cake for tea.
The will be allocated just 15 minutes in most cases and i am sure the readers of this will understand how difficult it is to prepare and cook a meal of any eal nutricious substance in such a paltry amount of time.
Then there are those who are unable or virtually unable to feed themselves for various reasons from stroke to disabilities.They will be getting their food hot from the microwave and shoved into their mouths as quick as possible in order to meet the new lunch time regime within these settings.
Have any of these decision makers ever tried to eat a hot meal off a tray balanced on your knee in front of the tv because this is how some of these people will be left to eat,unsafe,unsupervi

sed and uncared for.
There will no longer be the community dining experience where friendships have been built up over many years between people who cant even get out of their armchair unaided let alone walk the length of some of the corridors to visit their friends.Lunchtime is their only socialising event.It gives their day structure and meaning.
How can we put a cost on this.
The chances are that some of these affected people will now eat less substantial food and end up in hospital or become severely depressed.
Its true that most of them would be better off living in a prison.They would get good food free several times a day and have access to decent medical and dental care and receive entertainment and regular visitors.
Lets swap and put some of todays prisoners in the sheltered housing schemes and see how long they put up with it.
I think this sounds like a prelude to privatising the last of the council run care facilities and getting care provided on the cheap.
Mark my words if you pay peanuts you can guarantee getting monkeys.
So thanks to the shambles of care management in york over recent years, i hope every one of you who have had a hand in running the adult and care services into the ground live to reap what you have sown.
I know i am glad my parents arent around to suffer this indignity.
I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER AND LEAVE THE HOT MEALS IN PLACE.HAVE PITY ON YORKS VULNERABLE.
The irony is that Councillor Cunningham-Cross is supposed to be the Older Peoples Champion, yet her involvement with this core section of the community as is her profile in terms of York Press items is minimal .
[quote][p][bold]only human[/bold] wrote: Adult services have been in meltdown for around 4 years now and we are seeing the pyramid of inadequate managers topple as a result of incompetance and total disregard for the people who depend on the service and their families. The removal of the one hot meal many of these elderly and disabled are accustomed to receiving within the sheltered housing with extra care facility is almost always the only source of hot food these people get. Be under no illusions here,the people who will be directly affected will now be left behind their front doors from the moment the care staff get them up , washed and dressed until they return to make their delicious microwave slop tv meal for one or dry sandwich and cake for tea. The will be allocated just 15 minutes in most cases and i am sure the readers of this will understand how difficult it is to prepare and cook a meal of any eal nutricious substance in such a paltry amount of time. Then there are those who are unable or virtually unable to feed themselves for various reasons from stroke to disabilities.They will be getting their food hot from the microwave and shoved into their mouths as quick as possible in order to meet the new lunch time regime within these settings. Have any of these decision makers ever tried to eat a hot meal off a tray balanced on your knee in front of the tv because this is how some of these people will be left to eat,unsafe,unsupervi sed and uncared for. There will no longer be the community dining experience where friendships have been built up over many years between people who cant even get out of their armchair unaided let alone walk the length of some of the corridors to visit their friends.Lunchtime is their only socialising event.It gives their day structure and meaning. How can we put a cost on this. The chances are that some of these affected people will now eat less substantial food and end up in hospital or become severely depressed. Its true that most of them would be better off living in a prison.They would get good food free several times a day and have access to decent medical and dental care and receive entertainment and regular visitors. Lets swap and put some of todays prisoners in the sheltered housing schemes and see how long they put up with it. I think this sounds like a prelude to privatising the last of the council run care facilities and getting care provided on the cheap. Mark my words if you pay peanuts you can guarantee getting monkeys. So thanks to the shambles of care management in york over recent years, i hope every one of you who have had a hand in running the adult and care services into the ground live to reap what you have sown. I know i am glad my parents arent around to suffer this indignity. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER AND LEAVE THE HOT MEALS IN PLACE.HAVE PITY ON YORKS VULNERABLE.[/p][/quote]The irony is that Councillor Cunningham-Cross is supposed to be the Older Peoples Champion, yet her involvement with this core section of the community as is her profile in terms of York Press items is minimal . Older Sometimes Wiser
  • Score: 8

11:28am Fri 5 Sep 14

only human says...

I suggest the families of those affected in these sheltered housing schemes get a petition drawn up and signed as a matter of urgency and contact the york older persons advocacy in townend street off clarencs st for assistance with raising serious objection under the human rights act.
I suggest the families of those affected in these sheltered housing schemes get a petition drawn up and signed as a matter of urgency and contact the york older persons advocacy in townend street off clarencs st for assistance with raising serious objection under the human rights act. only human
  • Score: 12

12:26pm Fri 5 Sep 14

m dee says...

Older Sometimes Wiser wrote:
only human wrote:
Adult services have been in meltdown for around 4 years now and we are seeing the pyramid of inadequate managers topple as a result of incompetance and total disregard for the people who depend on the service and their families.
The removal of the one hot meal many of these elderly and disabled are accustomed to receiving within the sheltered housing with extra care facility is almost always the only source of hot food these people get.
Be under no illusions here,the people who will be directly affected will now be left behind their front doors from the moment the care staff get them up , washed and dressed until they return to make their delicious microwave slop tv meal for one or dry sandwich and cake for tea.
The will be allocated just 15 minutes in most cases and i am sure the readers of this will understand how difficult it is to prepare and cook a meal of any eal nutricious substance in such a paltry amount of time.
Then there are those who are unable or virtually unable to feed themselves for various reasons from stroke to disabilities.They will be getting their food hot from the microwave and shoved into their mouths as quick as possible in order to meet the new lunch time regime within these settings.
Have any of these decision makers ever tried to eat a hot meal off a tray balanced on your knee in front of the tv because this is how some of these people will be left to eat,unsafe,unsupervi


sed and uncared for.
There will no longer be the community dining experience where friendships have been built up over many years between people who cant even get out of their armchair unaided let alone walk the length of some of the corridors to visit their friends.Lunchtime is their only socialising event.It gives their day structure and meaning.
How can we put a cost on this.
The chances are that some of these affected people will now eat less substantial food and end up in hospital or become severely depressed.
Its true that most of them would be better off living in a prison.They would get good food free several times a day and have access to decent medical and dental care and receive entertainment and regular visitors.
Lets swap and put some of todays prisoners in the sheltered housing schemes and see how long they put up with it.
I think this sounds like a prelude to privatising the last of the council run care facilities and getting care provided on the cheap.
Mark my words if you pay peanuts you can guarantee getting monkeys.
So thanks to the shambles of care management in york over recent years, i hope every one of you who have had a hand in running the adult and care services into the ground live to reap what you have sown.
I know i am glad my parents arent around to suffer this indignity.
I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER AND LEAVE THE HOT MEALS IN PLACE.HAVE PITY ON YORKS VULNERABLE.
The irony is that Councillor Cunningham-Cross is supposed to be the Older Peoples Champion, yet her involvement with this core section of the community as is her profile in terms of York Press items is minimal .
I agree she should be challenging the changes rather then just the same old its the government cuts line on every issue she must be the worst person for the job,its a local Council choice of what they would rather spend on,the current lot obviously prefer things like world class paving,Wi Fi ,20 mph road signs,Myself and the rest of my family cannot wait to get down to the polling station in 2015.
[quote][p][bold]Older Sometimes Wiser[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]only human[/bold] wrote: Adult services have been in meltdown for around 4 years now and we are seeing the pyramid of inadequate managers topple as a result of incompetance and total disregard for the people who depend on the service and their families. The removal of the one hot meal many of these elderly and disabled are accustomed to receiving within the sheltered housing with extra care facility is almost always the only source of hot food these people get. Be under no illusions here,the people who will be directly affected will now be left behind their front doors from the moment the care staff get them up , washed and dressed until they return to make their delicious microwave slop tv meal for one or dry sandwich and cake for tea. The will be allocated just 15 minutes in most cases and i am sure the readers of this will understand how difficult it is to prepare and cook a meal of any eal nutricious substance in such a paltry amount of time. Then there are those who are unable or virtually unable to feed themselves for various reasons from stroke to disabilities.They will be getting their food hot from the microwave and shoved into their mouths as quick as possible in order to meet the new lunch time regime within these settings. Have any of these decision makers ever tried to eat a hot meal off a tray balanced on your knee in front of the tv because this is how some of these people will be left to eat,unsafe,unsupervi sed and uncared for. There will no longer be the community dining experience where friendships have been built up over many years between people who cant even get out of their armchair unaided let alone walk the length of some of the corridors to visit their friends.Lunchtime is their only socialising event.It gives their day structure and meaning. How can we put a cost on this. The chances are that some of these affected people will now eat less substantial food and end up in hospital or become severely depressed. Its true that most of them would be better off living in a prison.They would get good food free several times a day and have access to decent medical and dental care and receive entertainment and regular visitors. Lets swap and put some of todays prisoners in the sheltered housing schemes and see how long they put up with it. I think this sounds like a prelude to privatising the last of the council run care facilities and getting care provided on the cheap. Mark my words if you pay peanuts you can guarantee getting monkeys. So thanks to the shambles of care management in york over recent years, i hope every one of you who have had a hand in running the adult and care services into the ground live to reap what you have sown. I know i am glad my parents arent around to suffer this indignity. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO RECONSIDER AND LEAVE THE HOT MEALS IN PLACE.HAVE PITY ON YORKS VULNERABLE.[/p][/quote]The irony is that Councillor Cunningham-Cross is supposed to be the Older Peoples Champion, yet her involvement with this core section of the community as is her profile in terms of York Press items is minimal .[/p][/quote]I agree she should be challenging the changes rather then just the same old its the government cuts line on every issue she must be the worst person for the job,its a local Council choice of what they would rather spend on,the current lot obviously prefer things like world class paving,Wi Fi ,20 mph road signs,Myself and the rest of my family cannot wait to get down to the polling station in 2015. m dee
  • Score: 9

6:38pm Sun 7 Sep 14

gerry1962 says...

This weekend there appeared in our communal room a file with 'local takeaway and restaurants' information in it. How on earth are people in their 80s and 90s who are extremely frail supposed to look through these takeaway menus and choose meals? Just an absolute joke. We've also had brochures for Wiltshire and Oakwood (?) foods. And apparently people can use the microwave, well, as it's on a surface that is too high to use from a wheelchair, that will be fun to watch - not.
This weekend there appeared in our communal room a file with 'local takeaway and restaurants' information in it. How on earth are people in their 80s and 90s who are extremely frail supposed to look through these takeaway menus and choose meals? Just an absolute joke. We've also had brochures for Wiltshire and Oakwood (?) foods. And apparently people can use the microwave, well, as it's on a surface that is too high to use from a wheelchair, that will be fun to watch - not. gerry1962
  • Score: 1

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