Residents demand compensation for Park & Ride roadworks disruption

: The Park and Ride scheme that residents claim left them prisoners in their own homes

: The Park and Ride scheme that residents claim left them prisoners in their own homes

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RESIDENTS who endured months and disruption, noise and pollution caused by delayed roadworks for a new York Park and Ride scheme are seeking compensation.

Householders claim they were virtually prisoners in their own homes for months on end when works led to their drives at Poppleton being blocked, footpaths being dug up and gardens filled with dust and diesel fumes.

Now resident Max Driffield has written to City of York Council to ask for a rent rebate, as well an apology for the distress and disruption he and his neighbours faced. "We are not really bothered about the money, but we want them to apologise," he said.

He added that the council had offered residents hotel accommodation but, with little notice of night working, it had been impractical to suggest families should pack up to go to a hotel with their pets for six weeks, and after his requests for financial compensation had been refused, he had filed an official complaint and was considering taking the case to the Local Government Ombudsman.

York Outer MP Julian Sturdy and ward councillors Chris Steward, Paul Healey and Ian Gillies have all written to council chief executive Kersten England to say they believe the residents have suffered "totally unacceptable disruption," and ask for a 33 percent council tax rebate for 30 households in Poppleton, as well as a £5,000 payment to the parish council.

A council spokeswoman confirmed it had received a letter of claim, which was being considered by its legal team. "As legal proceedings have been intimated we cannot provide specific details on these claims," she said.

“However, we can say that this project was the largest transport infrastructure scheme carried out in York since the outer ring road was built in the 80s. Whilst nearby disruption was unavoidable, as the works were on such a large scale, residents and businesses were notified of all works."

She said a balanced approach had been needed to accommodate the needs of road users and residents, and unfortunately this meant night time working was needed for certain operations, as local diversion routes could not accommodate day time traffic levels.

“We’d like to thank those living and working nearby for their patience throughout the period of the works, which are now complete," she said, adding that the project would help to minimise congestion in the city and provided a much improved and safer access to local businesses in Northfield Lane.

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8:49am Tue 2 Sep 14

smudge2 says...

He is asking for a rent rebate and then says................ "We are not really bothered about the money, but we want them to apologise," .
He is asking for a rent rebate and then says................ "We are not really bothered about the money, but we want them to apologise," . smudge2
  • Score: 13

9:09am Tue 2 Sep 14

MrsHoney says...

I'm assuming most of the work was off road so why did they need to do the work at night? I could hear it from my house a couple of miles away so it was must've been awful for those nearby.
I'm assuming most of the work was off road so why did they need to do the work at night? I could hear it from my house a couple of miles away so it was must've been awful for those nearby. MrsHoney
  • Score: 25

9:42am Tue 2 Sep 14

mahlerfan says...

Yes , it was horrendous for those nearby . These massive road stripping / pneumatic peckers were still working at the bottom of our drives ( just yards from our beds ) at 3.30am . The project had been held up for three months by fuel contamination at Wills & Ellis site & CYC were desperate to be ready for the Tour de France . So we had to suffer . Is this council spokeswoman the one on £700 a day plus VAT ?
The council are refusing to accept liability & give rate reductions ,yet the new access road from the A1237 to the Wills & Ellis burger site was financed 50% by CYC . So they were happy to subsidise the rich developers . What's that about ?
Yes , it was horrendous for those nearby . These massive road stripping / pneumatic peckers were still working at the bottom of our drives ( just yards from our beds ) at 3.30am . The project had been held up for three months by fuel contamination at Wills & Ellis site & CYC were desperate to be ready for the Tour de France . So we had to suffer . Is this council spokeswoman the one on £700 a day plus VAT ? The council are refusing to accept liability & give rate reductions ,yet the new access road from the A1237 to the Wills & Ellis burger site was financed 50% by CYC . So they were happy to subsidise the rich developers . What's that about ? mahlerfan
  • Score: 30

9:44am Tue 2 Sep 14

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

Perhaps they should offer residents who were disturbed free travel on the new P&R buses...
Perhaps they should offer residents who were disturbed free travel on the new P&R buses... Ignatius Lumpopo
  • Score: 14

9:47am Tue 2 Sep 14

russeboy says...

Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council? russeboy
  • Score: 24

10:00am Tue 2 Sep 14

cba321 says...

Do these same residents and councillors support the dualling of the Outer Ring Road? If so better make sure the budget for that includes a hefty sum for legal fees and compensation! How can we ever make progress in a democratic society if we have to pay off the minority first?
Do these same residents and councillors support the dualling of the Outer Ring Road? If so better make sure the budget for that includes a hefty sum for legal fees and compensation! How can we ever make progress in a democratic society if we have to pay off the minority first? cba321
  • Score: -3

10:03am Tue 2 Sep 14

cba321 says...

russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to.
[quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to. cba321
  • Score: -23

10:09am Tue 2 Sep 14

russeboy says...

cba321 wrote:
russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to.
Past the lights traffic was back to normal - yes, yestrerday was the test - I hope that this isnt going to be the standard now. I'd love to use public transport, however, like myself not everyone using the A59 can due to the poor transport links between my place of work in Harrogate and York.
[quote][p][bold]cba321[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to.[/p][/quote]Past the lights traffic was back to normal - yes, yestrerday was the test - I hope that this isnt going to be the standard now. I'd love to use public transport, however, like myself not everyone using the A59 can due to the poor transport links between my place of work in Harrogate and York. russeboy
  • Score: 23

10:09am Tue 2 Sep 14

courier46 says...

russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Yes I wondered about these lights,maybe a roundabout would have been better. Maybe get someone in who knew about road layouts because 80% of our layouts are Cr-p!
[quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]Yes I wondered about these lights,maybe a roundabout would have been better. Maybe get someone in who knew about road layouts because 80% of our layouts are Cr-p! courier46
  • Score: 33

10:23am Tue 2 Sep 14

The Great Buda says...

Ah Yorks famous "me me me" attitude comes out to play again.
Ah Yorks famous "me me me" attitude comes out to play again. The Great Buda
  • Score: -21

10:34am Tue 2 Sep 14

FortessBC says...

Give them all vouchers for McDonalds if money is not the reason for this request for compensation! It happened, move on
Give them all vouchers for McDonalds if money is not the reason for this request for compensation! It happened, move on FortessBC
  • Score: -9

10:37am Tue 2 Sep 14

Miles Davis says...

This P&R did not in anyway benefit the people pf Poppleton. If they want to get into York then they can us the quicker train that goes every hour and does not get stuck in traffic. The noise and disruption for the folk along the a59 and Station road was appalling. Especially leading up to the Tour De France! 24 hour roadworks of the most noisy nature were taking place and the council 'thanked residents for their cooperation'!!! They had no choice!!
Next it will be the huge housing estate beyond the P&R and also the new garage, burger chain and retail shop on the old Wills and Ellis site.
Compensation for those residents affected in the form of lower council tax is the least the council could do!!
This P&R did not in anyway benefit the people pf Poppleton. If they want to get into York then they can us the quicker train that goes every hour and does not get stuck in traffic. The noise and disruption for the folk along the a59 and Station road was appalling. Especially leading up to the Tour De France! 24 hour roadworks of the most noisy nature were taking place and the council 'thanked residents for their cooperation'!!! They had no choice!! Next it will be the huge housing estate beyond the P&R and also the new garage, burger chain and retail shop on the old Wills and Ellis site. Compensation for those residents affected in the form of lower council tax is the least the council could do!! Miles Davis
  • Score: 12

10:39am Tue 2 Sep 14

Miles Davis says...

The Great Buda wrote:
Ah Yorks famous "me me me" attitude comes out to play again.
You obviously were not affected by the 24hour roadworks in a residential area. Your working day was not affected by the lack of sleep was it? What a stupid comment you posted.
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Ah Yorks famous "me me me" attitude comes out to play again.[/p][/quote]You obviously were not affected by the 24hour roadworks in a residential area. Your working day was not affected by the lack of sleep was it? What a stupid comment you posted. Miles Davis
  • Score: 19

10:41am Tue 2 Sep 14

russeboy says...

The Great Buda wrote:
Ah Yorks famous "me me me" attitude comes out to play again.
Assuming from your ignorance - you were not affected?
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Ah Yorks famous "me me me" attitude comes out to play again.[/p][/quote]Assuming from your ignorance - you were not affected? russeboy
  • Score: 20

11:04am Tue 2 Sep 14

Monks Boss says...

I agree there should be a council tax rebate for those residents closest to the noise.When your sleep is interrupted in this manner and you work, it is an awful combination.I hope you get compensation.
I agree there should be a council tax rebate for those residents closest to the noise.When your sleep is interrupted in this manner and you work, it is an awful combination.I hope you get compensation. Monks Boss
  • Score: 24

12:10pm Tue 2 Sep 14

MrsHoney says...

cba321 wrote:
russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to.
Due to my car being in the garage I had to use public transport yesterday. What a nightmare it is!! The timetable where I live is completely illogical. There is the no.10 and no.5A up the A59, often they're timetabled on at similar times meaning waits of up to 45 mins for a bus!!! The no.10 I got home last night was jam packed and boiling hot, I felt like I was on the tube, only it's easier for people to get off the tube than from the back of a bus with people packed in like sardines. This is peak travel time and yet there wasn't a bus for 40 mins, how is that supposed to entice people onto public transport?!! We've put up roadworks year after year on the A59, getting worse each time but do we get any benefits from it?! NO!
[quote][p][bold]cba321[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to.[/p][/quote]Due to my car being in the garage I had to use public transport yesterday. What a nightmare it is!! The timetable where I live is completely illogical. There is the no.10 and no.5A up the A59, often they're timetabled on at similar times meaning waits of up to 45 mins for a bus!!! The no.10 I got home last night was jam packed and boiling hot, I felt like I was on the tube, only it's easier for people to get off the tube than from the back of a bus with people packed in like sardines. This is peak travel time and yet there wasn't a bus for 40 mins, how is that supposed to entice people onto public transport?!! We've put up roadworks year after year on the A59, getting worse each time but do we get any benefits from it?! NO! MrsHoney
  • Score: 24

4:18pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Cheeky face says...

russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Is there a traffic light system serving the P and R? If so why is it not trialled without the lights? South of Scarborough residents at Osgodby complained of motortcyclists revving engines after midnight, when lights at red. Result; lights now part time! Scarborough Council and NYCC do listen.
[quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]Is there a traffic light system serving the P and R? If so why is it not trialled without the lights? South of Scarborough residents at Osgodby complained of motortcyclists revving engines after midnight, when lights at red. Result; lights now part time! Scarborough Council and NYCC do listen. Cheeky face
  • Score: 9

4:20pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Cheeky face says...

courier46 wrote:
russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Yes I wondered about these lights,maybe a roundabout would have been better. Maybe get someone in who knew about road layouts because 80% of our layouts are Cr-p!
Quite right. roundabouts are traffic flow orientated. The council are yet to grasp the motortist's issues.
[quote][p][bold]courier46[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]Yes I wondered about these lights,maybe a roundabout would have been better. Maybe get someone in who knew about road layouts because 80% of our layouts are Cr-p![/p][/quote]Quite right. roundabouts are traffic flow orientated. The council are yet to grasp the motortist's issues. Cheeky face
  • Score: 11

4:22pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Cheeky face says...

Monks Boss wrote:
I agree there should be a council tax rebate for those residents closest to the noise.When your sleep is interrupted in this manner and you work, it is an awful combination.I hope you get compensation.
If you pay by direct debit it may have helped to suspend payment months ago!
[quote][p][bold]Monks Boss[/bold] wrote: I agree there should be a council tax rebate for those residents closest to the noise.When your sleep is interrupted in this manner and you work, it is an awful combination.I hope you get compensation.[/p][/quote]If you pay by direct debit it may have helped to suspend payment months ago! Cheeky face
  • Score: 1

4:25pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Cheeky face says...

MrsHoney wrote:
cba321 wrote:
russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to.
Due to my car being in the garage I had to use public transport yesterday. What a nightmare it is!! The timetable where I live is completely illogical. There is the no.10 and no.5A up the A59, often they're timetabled on at similar times meaning waits of up to 45 mins for a bus!!! The no.10 I got home last night was jam packed and boiling hot, I felt like I was on the tube, only it's easier for people to get off the tube than from the back of a bus with people packed in like sardines. This is peak travel time and yet there wasn't a bus for 40 mins, how is that supposed to entice people onto public transport?!! We've put up roadworks year after year on the A59, getting worse each time but do we get any benefits from it?! NO!
Try the bus warden officer who works for us! He must do the council say so! Mick Major I believe.
[quote][p][bold]MrsHoney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cba321[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to.[/p][/quote]Due to my car being in the garage I had to use public transport yesterday. What a nightmare it is!! The timetable where I live is completely illogical. There is the no.10 and no.5A up the A59, often they're timetabled on at similar times meaning waits of up to 45 mins for a bus!!! The no.10 I got home last night was jam packed and boiling hot, I felt like I was on the tube, only it's easier for people to get off the tube than from the back of a bus with people packed in like sardines. This is peak travel time and yet there wasn't a bus for 40 mins, how is that supposed to entice people onto public transport?!! We've put up roadworks year after year on the A59, getting worse each time but do we get any benefits from it?! NO![/p][/quote]Try the bus warden officer who works for us! He must do the council say so! Mick Major I believe. Cheeky face
  • Score: 1

4:52pm Tue 2 Sep 14

johnwill says...

russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
I believe the A1 was closed due to an accident and traffic then diverts via the A59 onto the A19 or A64, I bet CoYC didn't factor that into the bizarre traffic light system at the junction of Station Rd - Northfield Lane.
[quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]I believe the A1 was closed due to an accident and traffic then diverts via the A59 onto the A19 or A64, I bet CoYC didn't factor that into the bizarre traffic light system at the junction of Station Rd - Northfield Lane. johnwill
  • Score: 10

5:13pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Jack Ham says...

Yet another carbuncle from Dave Merrett and James Alexander.

Not only has this unnecessary park and ride added to problems on the ring road and created a debt that we'll be paying back for decades, it's now attracted the new McDonald's that will inevitably lead to even more disruption and littering.

The sooner Labour and it's politicised CYC officers are gone the better.
Yet another carbuncle from Dave Merrett and James Alexander. Not only has this unnecessary park and ride added to problems on the ring road and created a debt that we'll be paying back for decades, it's now attracted the new McDonald's that will inevitably lead to even more disruption and littering. The sooner Labour and it's politicised CYC officers are gone the better. Jack Ham
  • Score: -3

5:36pm Tue 2 Sep 14

russeboy says...

Cheeky face wrote:
Monks Boss wrote:
I agree there should be a council tax rebate for those residents closest to the noise.When your sleep is interrupted in this manner and you work, it is an awful combination.I hope you get compensation.
If you pay by direct debit it may have helped to suspend payment months ago!
Stopping your DD will be a default on your payment plan - it's not advised.
[quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monks Boss[/bold] wrote: I agree there should be a council tax rebate for those residents closest to the noise.When your sleep is interrupted in this manner and you work, it is an awful combination.I hope you get compensation.[/p][/quote]If you pay by direct debit it may have helped to suspend payment months ago![/p][/quote]Stopping your DD will be a default on your payment plan - it's not advised. russeboy
  • Score: 2

6:43pm Tue 2 Sep 14

notpedallingpaul says...

cba321 wrote:
russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to.
Oh no, not the magic panacea again to cure york of all it's congestion, hop on a bus.
[quote][p][bold]cba321[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]Or perhaps it was due to extra traffic as people return to work after the holiday period and schools start again? Expect it was a combination of factors really not just the traffic lights which had their first real test. Time to use public transport and encourage others to do so to.[/p][/quote]Oh no, not the magic panacea again to cure york of all it's congestion, hop on a bus. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -10

6:47pm Tue 2 Sep 14

notpedallingpaul says...

The Great Buda wrote:
Ah Yorks famous "me me me" attitude comes out to play again.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion buddy boy, even if it doesn't agree with your way of thinking!
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: Ah Yorks famous "me me me" attitude comes out to play again.[/p][/quote]Everyone is entitled to an opinion buddy boy, even if it doesn't agree with your way of thinking! notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -10

8:18pm Tue 2 Sep 14

strangebuttrue? says...

russeboy wrote:
Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?
Well you could have guessed that would happen. The lights will be set just as the council wants them to be. Think it will get any better? It won't, all lights in York are set like this by the council it is part of their anti car measures. Best to find a new way round you know - through a few small villages down a few residential streets.
[quote][p][bold]russeboy[/bold] wrote: Yesterday York bound tailbacks were as far back as Tockwith due to the traffic lights being inefficiently programmed. One car comes from the Garden Centre and it stop 50 other cars coming in to York causing serious disruption. It took me 45 mins to move from Tockwith to reach the lights yesterday. Tweeted CoYC only to be usually ignored - theu subisquently tweeted that Newgate markey is now called Shambles Market - are the priorities right in the council?[/p][/quote]Well you could have guessed that would happen. The lights will be set just as the council wants them to be. Think it will get any better? It won't, all lights in York are set like this by the council it is part of their anti car measures. Best to find a new way round you know - through a few small villages down a few residential streets. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -8

8:19pm Tue 2 Sep 14

Col101 says...

I live close by. Packed the dog off to a friend and spend a couple of weeks in a nice hotel with the car parked in town for free. Couldn't have asked for more. I will not be taking any compensation. Free McDonald's would be nice though...
I live close by. Packed the dog off to a friend and spend a couple of weeks in a nice hotel with the car parked in town for free. Couldn't have asked for more. I will not be taking any compensation. Free McDonald's would be nice though... Col101
  • Score: 2

9:56pm Tue 2 Sep 14

CaroleBaines says...

Jack Ham wrote:
Yet another carbuncle from Dave Merrett and James Alexander.

Not only has this unnecessary park and ride added to problems on the ring road and created a debt that we'll be paying back for decades, it's now attracted the new McDonald's that will inevitably lead to even more disruption and littering.

The sooner Labour and it's politicised CYC officers are gone the better.
Littering!! Littering? So let me get this straight, you are worried that a drive through/restaurant on the outer ring road will be a litter problem? Every time the wind blows hard, there is rubbish in that area from Harwood Whin that would take burger eaters a generation to create!

And hasn't most of the Park n Ride been paid for by no LA grant?

Continue your campaign against anything CYC by all means, but lets keep it to even wildly realistic.

You do make me chortle and no, am not Sonja.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: Yet another carbuncle from Dave Merrett and James Alexander. Not only has this unnecessary park and ride added to problems on the ring road and created a debt that we'll be paying back for decades, it's now attracted the new McDonald's that will inevitably lead to even more disruption and littering. The sooner Labour and it's politicised CYC officers are gone the better.[/p][/quote]Littering!! Littering? So let me get this straight, you are worried that a drive through/restaurant on the outer ring road will be a litter problem? Every time the wind blows hard, there is rubbish in that area from Harwood Whin that would take burger eaters a generation to create! And hasn't most of the Park n Ride been paid for by no LA grant? Continue your campaign against anything CYC by all means, but lets keep it to even wildly realistic. You do make me chortle and no, am not Sonja. CaroleBaines
  • Score: -3

11:12pm Tue 2 Sep 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Love the way the council keep saying "thank you for your patience". They are trying to get you to compensate them are you not listening again??
Love the way the council keep saying "thank you for your patience". They are trying to get you to compensate them are you not listening again?? strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 7

5:57am Wed 3 Sep 14

anth!! says...

Cheeky face wrote:
Monks Boss wrote:
I agree there should be a council tax rebate for those residents closest to the noise.When your sleep is interrupted in this manner and you work, it is an awful combination.I hope you get compensation.
If you pay by direct debit it may have helped to suspend payment months ago!
Or aye, then you'll probably get a summons for non-payment of council tax, not a good suggestion.
[quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monks Boss[/bold] wrote: I agree there should be a council tax rebate for those residents closest to the noise.When your sleep is interrupted in this manner and you work, it is an awful combination.I hope you get compensation.[/p][/quote]If you pay by direct debit it may have helped to suspend payment months ago![/p][/quote]Or aye, then you'll probably get a summons for non-payment of council tax, not a good suggestion. anth!!
  • Score: 1

8:59am Wed 3 Sep 14

meme says...

Although it must have been v difficult for the residents unfortunately such is the penalty for living near a major road
In my mind I would like to know why the contract took far longer than planned Presumably cost more than planned and is still not completed?
I hope the contractors were on penalties for late delivery
Although it must have been v difficult for the residents unfortunately such is the penalty for living near a major road In my mind I would like to know why the contract took far longer than planned [a typical CoYC issue] Presumably cost more than planned[a guess; so possibly not fact] and is still not completed? I hope the contractors were on penalties for late delivery meme
  • Score: 2

12:37pm Wed 3 Sep 14

CaroleBaines says...

meme wrote:
Although it must have been v difficult for the residents unfortunately such is the penalty for living near a major road
In my mind I would like to know why the contract took far longer than planned Presumably cost more than planned and is still not completed?
I hope the contractors were on penalties for late delivery
Sensible comment. If you buy a house near a main road, you can assume that road will receive major work on it at some stage. Residents would soon complain if they were gridlocked in or road was un-usable due to damage.
Yes to penalties to contractors if work was not done on time, no way to compensation.
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: Although it must have been v difficult for the residents unfortunately such is the penalty for living near a major road In my mind I would like to know why the contract took far longer than planned [a typical CoYC issue] Presumably cost more than planned[a guess; so possibly not fact] and is still not completed? I hope the contractors were on penalties for late delivery[/p][/quote]Sensible comment. If you buy a house near a main road, you can assume that road will receive major work on it at some stage. Residents would soon complain if they were gridlocked in or road was un-usable due to damage. Yes to penalties to contractors if work was not done on time, no way to compensation. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 3

8:16am Thu 4 Sep 14

Miles Davis says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
meme wrote:
Although it must have been v difficult for the residents unfortunately such is the penalty for living near a major road
In my mind I would like to know why the contract took far longer than planned Presumably cost more than planned and is still not completed?
I hope the contractors were on penalties for late delivery
Sensible comment. If you buy a house near a main road, you can assume that road will receive major work on it at some stage. Residents would soon complain if they were gridlocked in or road was un-usable due to damage.
Yes to penalties to contractors if work was not done on time, no way to compensation.
One can expect roadworks on any road in ay area. However, during the night in a residential area. You obviously were not affected by weeks of 24 hour roadworks! Had you not had sleep before you went to work for a protracted period of time then I would suggest your outlook may well be different.
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: Although it must have been v difficult for the residents unfortunately such is the penalty for living near a major road In my mind I would like to know why the contract took far longer than planned [a typical CoYC issue] Presumably cost more than planned[a guess; so possibly not fact] and is still not completed? I hope the contractors were on penalties for late delivery[/p][/quote]Sensible comment. If you buy a house near a main road, you can assume that road will receive major work on it at some stage. Residents would soon complain if they were gridlocked in or road was un-usable due to damage. Yes to penalties to contractors if work was not done on time, no way to compensation.[/p][/quote]One can expect roadworks on any road in ay area. However, during the night in a residential area. You obviously were not affected by weeks of 24 hour roadworks! Had you not had sleep before you went to work for a protracted period of time then I would suggest your outlook may well be different. Miles Davis
  • Score: 1

9:34am Thu 4 Sep 14

CaroleBaines says...

Miles Davis wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
meme wrote:
Although it must have been v difficult for the residents unfortunately such is the penalty for living near a major road
In my mind I would like to know why the contract took far longer than planned Presumably cost more than planned and is still not completed?
I hope the contractors were on penalties for late delivery
Sensible comment. If you buy a house near a main road, you can assume that road will receive major work on it at some stage. Residents would soon complain if they were gridlocked in or road was un-usable due to damage.
Yes to penalties to contractors if work was not done on time, no way to compensation.
One can expect roadworks on any road in ay area. However, during the night in a residential area. You obviously were not affected by weeks of 24 hour roadworks! Had you not had sleep before you went to work for a protracted period of time then I would suggest your outlook may well be different.
Know someone who lives on Station Road very near road works. It was not weeks of noise and this couple are not claiming anything, nor do they think they should. And no, my outlook would not be different, I tend not to cry for compensation at every turn. But each to their own - agree to disagree.
[quote][p][bold]Miles Davis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: Although it must have been v difficult for the residents unfortunately such is the penalty for living near a major road In my mind I would like to know why the contract took far longer than planned [a typical CoYC issue] Presumably cost more than planned[a guess; so possibly not fact] and is still not completed? I hope the contractors were on penalties for late delivery[/p][/quote]Sensible comment. If you buy a house near a main road, you can assume that road will receive major work on it at some stage. Residents would soon complain if they were gridlocked in or road was un-usable due to damage. Yes to penalties to contractors if work was not done on time, no way to compensation.[/p][/quote]One can expect roadworks on any road in ay area. However, during the night in a residential area. You obviously were not affected by weeks of 24 hour roadworks! Had you not had sleep before you went to work for a protracted period of time then I would suggest your outlook may well be different.[/p][/quote]Know someone who lives on Station Road very near road works. It was not weeks of noise and this couple are not claiming anything, nor do they think they should. And no, my outlook would not be different, I tend not to cry for compensation at every turn. But each to their own - agree to disagree. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 0

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