Student housing plan for St Joseph's Convent site in Lawrence Street

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PLANS are about to be unveiled showing how a historic York convent could be converted into 21st century student accommodation.

St Joseph's Convent was home to a closed order of Poor Clare Colettines for 140 years, until its closure was announced in October last year.

Now part of the land has been acquired by Vita Student Management, and the company is holding a community consultation event to show people their plans for the site.

Managing Director Gavin Duncan said: “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers.

The St. Joseph’s site represents an opportunity to deliver a wonderful residence to those students who have chosen York as their home while they pursue their academic studies.

We believe that our proposed residence is truly different to what is currently offered in York and we welcome feedback from the public ahead of the submission of a formal planning application to the City of York Council.”

The convent occupied a Grade II listed building on a five acre plot of land just south of the city walls on Lawrence Street. It once housed as many as 40 nuns behind the 15ft brick wall, but numbers had fallen to just eight before the closure.

It was founded in 1864 by a group of sisters who came to York from a convent in Bruges, and the buildings were designed by a local Roman Catholic ecclesiastical architect, George Goldie, and were built between 1870 and 1875.

The company already has student accommodation sites in Bristol, Exeter, Liverpool, Manchester and Southampton - providing single or double occupancy studio apartments with shared kitchens and communal areas.

The consultation will take place on Thursday, September 4 from 2-8pm at Tang Hall Working Men’s Club, 25 Hull Road, York, YO10 3JL.

Members of the development and management team will be available to answer questions and after the event the full consultation display will be online at lawrencestreet.vitastudent.com.

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10:27am Fri 29 Aug 14

RingoStarr says...

"Managing Director Gavin Duncan said: “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers."

....and 'passionate' about making a LOT of money from the 'exceptional experience'?
"Managing Director Gavin Duncan said: “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers." ....and 'passionate' about making a LOT of money from the 'exceptional experience'? RingoStarr
  • Score: -26

11:19am Fri 29 Aug 14

mark sertori says...

Why is this land being developed for students? Surely the more sensible thing to do is develop it for long term York residents, providing much needed family homes. That area of York has been over run by students already, perhaps it is time to offer quality, affordable homes to York residents for a change.
Why is this land being developed for students? Surely the more sensible thing to do is develop it for long term York residents, providing much needed family homes. That area of York has been over run by students already, perhaps it is time to offer quality, affordable homes to York residents for a change. mark sertori
  • Score: -12

11:21am Fri 29 Aug 14

Monks Boss says...

Lawrence street should be renamed as student street.As for the nuns its like the song" where have all the cowboys gone" change cowboys to nuns!:)
Lawrence street should be renamed as student street.As for the nuns its like the song" where have all the cowboys gone" change cowboys to nuns!:) Monks Boss
  • Score: -16

11:28am Fri 29 Aug 14

magnard says...

RingoStarr wrote:
"Managing Director Gavin Duncan said: “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers."

....and 'passionate' about making a LOT of money from the 'exceptional experience'?
The guy is trying to make a successful business based on quality and customer satisfaction. I'm not sure why you have a problem with that.
[quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: "Managing Director Gavin Duncan said: “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers." ....and 'passionate' about making a LOT of money from the 'exceptional experience'?[/p][/quote]The guy is trying to make a successful business based on quality and customer satisfaction. I'm not sure why you have a problem with that. magnard
  • Score: 25

12:09pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dave Ruddock says...

"Managing Director Gavin Duncan said: “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers."

Interesting Statement, pity this The consultation will take place on Thursday, September 4 from 2-8pm at Tang Hall Working Men’s Club, 25 Hull Road, York, YO10 3JL. I hope all York City Residents with Objections attend and that might put it across how the RESIDENTS feel. I personally would like to see I Bed flats,Bedsits. Not stylish.
"Managing Director Gavin Duncan said: “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers." Interesting Statement, pity this The consultation will take place on Thursday, September 4 from 2-8pm at Tang Hall Working Men’s Club, 25 Hull Road, York, YO10 3JL. I hope all York City Residents with Objections attend and that might put it across how the RESIDENTS feel. I personally would like to see I Bed flats,Bedsits. Not stylish. Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 18

12:11pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dave Ruddock says...

For the Press what are the 2 Colored areas, I believe no mention made in the Article ? thanks
For the Press what are the 2 Colored areas, I believe no mention made in the Article ? thanks Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 14

12:55pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Jiffy says...

Yet more accommodation for students who will pay no Council Tax - just what is needed. When oh when will they wake up to the fact that long term residents of York need places to live too. Anybody wanting to start living their lives away from home & building a future just don't stand a chance with the ridiculous rents that are charged in this City (again inflated because of the amount of student property lets) and the low wages they receive in Yorks 'tourist' driven jobs
Yet more accommodation for students who will pay no Council Tax - just what is needed. When oh when will they wake up to the fact that long term residents of York need places to live too. Anybody wanting to start living their lives away from home & building a future just don't stand a chance with the ridiculous rents that are charged in this City (again inflated because of the amount of student property lets) and the low wages they receive in Yorks 'tourist' driven jobs Jiffy
  • Score: 31

1:19pm Fri 29 Aug 14

York2000 says...

To be fair, they could build the new Conservative Party HQ, with UKIP HQ next door, ban all students, foreigners, people who rent, and anyone on benefits from entering the site, making sure only York right wingers are allowed to enter - and you lot still wouldn't be happy.
To be fair, they could build the new Conservative Party HQ, with UKIP HQ next door, ban all students, foreigners, people who rent, and anyone on benefits from entering the site, making sure only York right wingers are allowed to enter - and you lot still wouldn't be happy. York2000
  • Score: 1

1:32pm Fri 29 Aug 14

marvell says...

The plans would receive a more balanced hearing if they didn't resort to spouting corporate bullsh#t. So insincere it gives you diabetes just reading it. You can just visualise the small focus group meeting to discuss how many buzz words they can fit in to a sentence.

“Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers."

The whole area is becoming a student village you've got to say. There's huge halls of residence nearby on Navigation Rd, there are numerous properties at the back of Lawrence St off James St and masses more right up to the crossroads with Melrosegate. Hopefully the question of affordable housing will be asked of these people at the public consultation.

"Consultation" by the way is a euphemism for "fait accomplit". They're making the planning application regardless of public opinion.
The plans would receive a more balanced hearing if they didn't resort to spouting corporate bullsh#t. So insincere it gives you diabetes just reading it. You can just visualise the small focus group meeting to discuss how many buzz words they can fit in to a sentence. “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers." The whole area is becoming a student village you've got to say. There's huge halls of residence nearby on Navigation Rd, there are numerous properties at the back of Lawrence St off James St and masses more right up to the crossroads with Melrosegate. Hopefully the question of affordable housing will be asked of these people at the public consultation. "Consultation" by the way is a euphemism for "fait accomplit". They're making the planning application regardless of public opinion. marvell
  • Score: 22

1:37pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Woody G Mellor says...

I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.
I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development. Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -2

1:48pm Fri 29 Aug 14

magnard says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.
Have you seen the plans?
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the plans? magnard
  • Score: 35

2:04pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Woody G Mellor says...

magnard wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.
Have you seen the plans?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?
[quote][p][bold]magnard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the plans?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it? Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -17

2:04pm Fri 29 Aug 14

HeworthM says...

Good news for the wider community to the East of York. Purpose built student accommodation is what is needed to free up the existing housing currently used by our student population. Build affordable accommodation with the facilities they need, and we should see the family style housing freed up for the families of York.
A shame that the Universities weren't required to put the accommodation in place as part of their expansion plans, but at long last private enterprise is providing a solution to an issue which the local authority allowed to happen.
(And before I am criticised, I live in my own home (mortgaged!) within view of existing purpose built student accommodation, and have very little disturbance from drunken people staggering back home from the pub/parties, or parties being held in the accommodation itself).
Good news for the wider community to the East of York. Purpose built student accommodation is what is needed to free up the existing housing currently used by our student population. Build affordable accommodation with the facilities they need, and we should see the family style housing freed up for the families of York. A shame that the Universities weren't required to put the accommodation in place as part of their expansion plans, but at long last private enterprise is providing a solution to an issue which the local authority allowed to happen. (And before I am criticised, I live in my own home (mortgaged!) within view of existing purpose built student accommodation, and have very little disturbance from drunken people staggering back home from the pub/parties, or parties being held in the accommodation itself). HeworthM
  • Score: 27

2:34pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Justin7 says...

Super! More pot smoking alco pop art students! Welcome to York, your personal pub run.

Looking forward to drugged up students throwing water bombs on passing citizens and uploading it to youtube.
Super! More pot smoking alco pop art students! Welcome to York, your personal pub run. Looking forward to drugged up students throwing water bombs on passing citizens and uploading it to youtube. Justin7
  • Score: 4

2:38pm Fri 29 Aug 14

NoMorePlease says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
magnard wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.
Have you seen the plans?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to?

Most people with a brain would say so before commenting
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the plans?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? Most people with a brain would say so before commenting NoMorePlease
  • Score: -10

2:48pm Fri 29 Aug 14

cynic3 says...

I just hope that if the plans are passed the Council do not allow buildings that are too tall and out of place. The Hull Road one is a storey too high in my opinion.
I just hope that if the plans are passed the Council do not allow buildings that are too tall and out of place. The Hull Road one is a storey too high in my opinion. cynic3
  • Score: 17

2:50pm Fri 29 Aug 14

notmyrealname says...

Stylish Accommodation like the monstrosity further down !! See what these buildings will turn into in a few years when the student intake drops and no one will want to live there
Stylish Accommodation like the monstrosity further down !! See what these buildings will turn into in a few years when the student intake drops and no one will want to live there notmyrealname
  • Score: 19

2:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Woody G Mellor says...

NoMorePlease wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
magnard wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.
Have you seen the plans?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to?

Most people with a brain would say so before commenting
"Most people with a brain" wouldn't leave such a childish comment. Also, us with a "brain" only have to look at the student accommodation a little further up the road to know what to expect.
[quote][p][bold]NoMorePlease[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the plans?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? Most people with a brain would say so before commenting[/p][/quote]"Most people with a brain" wouldn't leave such a childish comment. Also, us with a "brain" only have to look at the student accommodation a little further up the road to know what to expect. Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -34

3:00pm Fri 29 Aug 14

magnard says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
NoMorePlease wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
magnard wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.
Have you seen the plans?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to?

Most people with a brain would say so before commenting
"Most people with a brain" wouldn't leave such a childish comment. Also, us with a "brain" only have to look at the student accommodation a little further up the road to know what to expect.
You're not even judging a book by its cover, you're judging it by the cover your prejudice leads you to think it has.
I bet your wife's ugly - I mean I haven't seen her and I don't even know if you've got one but that doesn't prevent me holding a prejudicial view does it?
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NoMorePlease[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the plans?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? Most people with a brain would say so before commenting[/p][/quote]"Most people with a brain" wouldn't leave such a childish comment. Also, us with a "brain" only have to look at the student accommodation a little further up the road to know what to expect.[/p][/quote]You're not even judging a book by its cover, you're judging it by the cover your prejudice leads you to think it has. I bet your wife's ugly - I mean I haven't seen her and I don't even know if you've got one but that doesn't prevent me holding a prejudicial view does it? magnard
  • Score: 33

3:15pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Woody G Mellor says...

magnard wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
NoMorePlease wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
magnard wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.
Have you seen the plans?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to?

Most people with a brain would say so before commenting
"Most people with a brain" wouldn't leave such a childish comment. Also, us with a "brain" only have to look at the student accommodation a little further up the road to know what to expect.
You're not even judging a book by its cover, you're judging it by the cover your prejudice leads you to think it has.
I bet your wife's ugly - I mean I haven't seen her and I don't even know if you've got one but that doesn't prevent me holding a prejudicial view does it?
So, if I said I'm pretty sure its going to be an attractive building, I'd still be in the wrong in your eyes. In other words, no one is allowed to take an educated guess as to what modern student accommodation will look like? And YOU have the cheek to use the word prejudice! Laughable. If you can't bear the fact that people come on here to air their opinions, and you can't leave a comment without you having to sling insults and accusations then you really should be somewhere else.
[quote][p][bold]magnard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NoMorePlease[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the plans?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? Most people with a brain would say so before commenting[/p][/quote]"Most people with a brain" wouldn't leave such a childish comment. Also, us with a "brain" only have to look at the student accommodation a little further up the road to know what to expect.[/p][/quote]You're not even judging a book by its cover, you're judging it by the cover your prejudice leads you to think it has. I bet your wife's ugly - I mean I haven't seen her and I don't even know if you've got one but that doesn't prevent me holding a prejudicial view does it?[/p][/quote]So, if I said I'm pretty sure its going to be an attractive building, I'd still be in the wrong in your eyes. In other words, no one is allowed to take an educated guess as to what modern student accommodation will look like? And YOU have the cheek to use the word prejudice! Laughable. If you can't bear the fact that people come on here to air their opinions, and you can't leave a comment without you having to sling insults and accusations then you really should be somewhere else. Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -38

4:48pm Fri 29 Aug 14

welf_man says...

The Convent is Grade II listed, built between 1870 and 1875 and is going to be converted. read the article, guys! (Though it has been entertaining)!
The Convent is Grade II listed, built between 1870 and 1875 and is going to be converted. read the article, guys! (Though it has been entertaining)! welf_man
  • Score: 10

4:54pm Fri 29 Aug 14

magnard says...

welf_man wrote:
The Convent is Grade II listed, built between 1870 and 1875 and is going to be converted. read the article, guys! (Though it has been entertaining)!
Haha fair point, now I look the fool! I sincerely hope it is a great conversion (though I'll withhold judgement until I see it ;)
[quote][p][bold]welf_man[/bold] wrote: The Convent is Grade II listed, built between 1870 and 1875 and is going to be converted. read the article, guys! (Though it has been entertaining)![/p][/quote]Haha fair point, now I look the fool! I sincerely hope it is a great conversion (though I'll withhold judgement until I see it ;) magnard
  • Score: 4

4:59pm Fri 29 Aug 14

pbrowne2009@live.co.uk says...

mark sertori wrote:
Why is this land being developed for students? Surely the more sensible thing to do is develop it for long term York residents, providing much needed family homes. That area of York has been over run by students already, perhaps it is time to offer quality, affordable homes to York residents for a change.
very good point - saying that, surely this will drive down private rented prices for residents, surely. If the demand for private housing drops followed by the idea to accommodate students into one location. Will this happen - will it heck. I think its the university responsibility to ensure they can house its students before it expands its uni. York residents ONCE AGAIN suffering in the hands of students and tourists. Love York, hate living here, but wouldn't go anywhere else (awkward mind set to be in)
[quote][p][bold]mark sertori[/bold] wrote: Why is this land being developed for students? Surely the more sensible thing to do is develop it for long term York residents, providing much needed family homes. That area of York has been over run by students already, perhaps it is time to offer quality, affordable homes to York residents for a change.[/p][/quote]very good point - saying that, surely this will drive down private rented prices for residents, surely. If the demand for private housing drops followed by the idea to accommodate students into one location. Will this happen - will it heck. I think its the university responsibility to ensure they can house its students before it expands its uni. York residents ONCE AGAIN suffering in the hands of students and tourists. Love York, hate living here, but wouldn't go anywhere else (awkward mind set to be in) pbrowne2009@live.co.uk
  • Score: 2

6:37pm Fri 29 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

magnard wrote:
RingoStarr wrote:
"Managing Director Gavin Duncan said: “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers."

....and 'passionate' about making a LOT of money from the 'exceptional experience'?
The guy is trying to make a successful business based on quality and customer satisfaction. I'm not sure why you have a problem with that.
I think the land would be better suited to providing affordable/social housing for York residents, aren't student catered for enough in this city.
What about all the family's that are renting unsuitable properties, give them to the students they are only here for a short while, I'm sure they can put up with a bit of mould and damp for a few years.; we need more housing for young family's.
[quote][p][bold]magnard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: "Managing Director Gavin Duncan said: “Vita Student is passionate about creating stylish accommodation that’s also comfortable and practical, as well as providing an exceptional experience to its customers." ....and 'passionate' about making a LOT of money from the 'exceptional experience'?[/p][/quote]The guy is trying to make a successful business based on quality and customer satisfaction. I'm not sure why you have a problem with that.[/p][/quote]I think the land would be better suited to providing affordable/social housing for York residents, aren't student catered for enough in this city. What about all the family's that are renting unsuitable properties, give them to the students they are only here for a short while, I'm sure they can put up with a bit of mould and damp for a few years.; we need more housing for young family's. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -35

7:09pm Fri 29 Aug 14

bloodaxe says...

York2000 wrote:
To be fair, they could build the new Conservative Party HQ, with UKIP HQ next door, ban all students, foreigners, people who rent, and anyone on benefits from entering the site, making sure only York right wingers are allowed to enter - and you lot still wouldn't be happy.
True, but don't expect too many plus points.
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: To be fair, they could build the new Conservative Party HQ, with UKIP HQ next door, ban all students, foreigners, people who rent, and anyone on benefits from entering the site, making sure only York right wingers are allowed to enter - and you lot still wouldn't be happy.[/p][/quote]True, but don't expect too many plus points. bloodaxe
  • Score: -3

7:13pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Monks Boss says...

The residents of York lost Lawrence st along time ago in 10 years time it will all be student housing.York will just be a bus stop next to the metropolis that is... York University.
The residents of York lost Lawrence st along time ago in 10 years time it will all be student housing.York will just be a bus stop next to the metropolis that is... York University. Monks Boss
  • Score: 12

7:15pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Seadog says...

Without prejudice to any of the above: where have the eight surviving nuns actually gone? I do hope they are being well cared for in their dotage ... assuming them all to be elderly ... which is perhaps a dangerous assumption since I actually know some relatively young nuns ... albeit of a diffrerent order!
Without prejudice to any of the above: where have the eight surviving nuns actually gone? I do hope they are being well cared for in their dotage ... assuming them all to be elderly ... which is perhaps a dangerous assumption since I actually know some relatively young nuns ... albeit of a diffrerent order! Seadog
  • Score: 11

7:17pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Seadog says...

Sorry: "different".
Sorry: "different". Seadog
  • Score: 5

7:52pm Fri 29 Aug 14

anistasia says...

Far too many places turning into student accommodation its wrong what about affordable housing for york residents someone who can put money back into the local economy by paying council tax etc.students come here learn and move to where the jobs are.we need more housing for local people.
Far too many places turning into student accommodation its wrong what about affordable housing for york residents someone who can put money back into the local economy by paying council tax etc.students come here learn and move to where the jobs are.we need more housing for local people. anistasia
  • Score: 6

8:07pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Pinza-C55 says...

HeworthM wrote:
Good news for the wider community to the East of York. Purpose built student accommodation is what is needed to free up the existing housing currently used by our student population. Build affordable accommodation with the facilities they need, and we should see the family style housing freed up for the families of York.
A shame that the Universities weren't required to put the accommodation in place as part of their expansion plans, but at long last private enterprise is providing a solution to an issue which the local authority allowed to happen.
(And before I am criticised, I live in my own home (mortgaged!) within view of existing purpose built student accommodation, and have very little disturbance from drunken people staggering back home from the pub/parties, or parties being held in the accommodation itself).
Isn't it curious how each new tranche of "purpose built student accommodation" is supposed to "free up the existing housing" but never does ? More "purpose built student accommodation" is always needed ?
[quote][p][bold]HeworthM[/bold] wrote: Good news for the wider community to the East of York. Purpose built student accommodation is what is needed to free up the existing housing currently used by our student population. Build affordable accommodation with the facilities they need, and we should see the family style housing freed up for the families of York. A shame that the Universities weren't required to put the accommodation in place as part of their expansion plans, but at long last private enterprise is providing a solution to an issue which the local authority allowed to happen. (And before I am criticised, I live in my own home (mortgaged!) within view of existing purpose built student accommodation, and have very little disturbance from drunken people staggering back home from the pub/parties, or parties being held in the accommodation itself).[/p][/quote]Isn't it curious how each new tranche of "purpose built student accommodation" is supposed to "free up the existing housing" but never does ? More "purpose built student accommodation" is always needed ? Pinza-C55
  • Score: 4

8:13pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Dave Ruddock says...

I wish some folks would Stop Bickering
I wish some folks would Stop Bickering Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 8

8:19pm Fri 29 Aug 14

piaggio1 says...

York2000. ???
Whats this thing withYOU.
Right wingers?
Daily mail readers?
English people?
York residents?
York2000. ??? Whats this thing withYOU. Right wingers? Daily mail readers? English people? York residents? piaggio1
  • Score: 0

9:06pm Fri 29 Aug 14

York2000 says...

piaggio1, you are aware of what the inner Tories call the swivel eyed loons on these threads, no?
piaggio1, you are aware of what the inner Tories call the swivel eyed loons on these threads, no? York2000
  • Score: 5

9:21pm Fri 29 Aug 14

bill bailey says...

Monks Boss wrote:
The residents of York lost Lawrence st along time ago in 10 years time it will all be student housing.York will just be a bus stop next to the metropolis that is... York University.
Moss Boss, you might be with me on this one ,I wonder if they will protect the newts , and protected plants, and have a COMMUNITY DIG as they are having before the Stadium will be built,
[quote][p][bold]Monks Boss[/bold] wrote: The residents of York lost Lawrence st along time ago in 10 years time it will all be student housing.York will just be a bus stop next to the metropolis that is... York University.[/p][/quote]Moss Boss, you might be with me on this one ,I wonder if they will protect the newts , and protected plants, and have a COMMUNITY DIG as they are having before the Stadium will be built, bill bailey
  • Score: -2

9:39pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Peniel says...

Justin7 wrote:
Super! More pot smoking alco pop art students! Welcome to York, your personal pub run.

Looking forward to drugged up students throwing water bombs on passing citizens and uploading it to youtube.
Way to stereotype students!

The majority of students I know went to improve their employment perspectives.
[quote][p][bold]Justin7[/bold] wrote: Super! More pot smoking alco pop art students! Welcome to York, your personal pub run. Looking forward to drugged up students throwing water bombs on passing citizens and uploading it to youtube.[/p][/quote]Way to stereotype students! The majority of students I know went to improve their employment perspectives. Peniel
  • Score: 6

9:43pm Fri 29 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

Why are these buildings not incorporated into to Uni campus? I have no problems with Buy to Let etc. But the areas that are predominantly student lets really do go down hill and fore out resident families.

Heslington Road, Heslington Lane, Hull Road, Badger Hill etc. are just scruffy now with zero maintenance gardens, rubbish strewn and curtains drawn all day.
Why are these buildings not incorporated into to Uni campus? I have no problems with Buy to Let etc. But the areas that are predominantly student lets really do go down hill and fore out resident families. Heslington Road, Heslington Lane, Hull Road, Badger Hill etc. are just scruffy now with zero maintenance gardens, rubbish strewn and curtains drawn all day. eeoodares
  • Score: 4

9:57pm Fri 29 Aug 14

LindaNess says...

HeworthM wrote:
Good news for the wider community to the East of York. Purpose built student accommodation is what is needed to free up the existing housing currently used by our student population. Build affordable accommodation with the facilities they need, and we should see the family style housing freed up for the families of York.
A shame that the Universities weren't required to put the accommodation in place as part of their expansion plans, but at long last private enterprise is providing a solution to an issue which the local authority allowed to happen.
(And before I am criticised, I live in my own home (mortgaged!) within view of existing purpose built student accommodation, and have very little disturbance from drunken people staggering back home from the pub/parties, or parties being held in the accommodation itself).
The Heslington East site has a great deal more land that could be developed for student accommodation and it would be good to see this happen, so that what is now multi occupancy housing is made available to families.
[quote][p][bold]HeworthM[/bold] wrote: Good news for the wider community to the East of York. Purpose built student accommodation is what is needed to free up the existing housing currently used by our student population. Build affordable accommodation with the facilities they need, and we should see the family style housing freed up for the families of York. A shame that the Universities weren't required to put the accommodation in place as part of their expansion plans, but at long last private enterprise is providing a solution to an issue which the local authority allowed to happen. (And before I am criticised, I live in my own home (mortgaged!) within view of existing purpose built student accommodation, and have very little disturbance from drunken people staggering back home from the pub/parties, or parties being held in the accommodation itself).[/p][/quote]The Heslington East site has a great deal more land that could be developed for student accommodation and it would be good to see this happen, so that what is now multi occupancy housing is made available to families. LindaNess
  • Score: 5

10:09pm Fri 29 Aug 14

NoMorePlease says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
NoMorePlease wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
magnard wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.
Have you seen the plans?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?
Oh please!!! Do we really need to?

Most people with a brain would say so before commenting
"Most people with a brain" wouldn't leave such a childish comment. Also, us with a "brain" only have to look at the student accommodation a little further up the road to know what to expect.
Not childish at all. Reasonable reponse to someone who confuses foresight (your word but not till later) with knowing the future. You wrote as if you knew, you never said wait and see in the original post, but now you modify it. Not even the grace or maturity to admit it, very small attitude to be honest
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NoMorePlease[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]magnard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.[/p][/quote]Have you seen the plans?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? If the new building reflects the historic beauty of York I'll eat my hat, and publicly apologise. Still doesn't change the fact that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear though now does it?[/p][/quote]Oh please!!! Do we really need to? Most people with a brain would say so before commenting[/p][/quote]"Most people with a brain" wouldn't leave such a childish comment. Also, us with a "brain" only have to look at the student accommodation a little further up the road to know what to expect.[/p][/quote]Not childish at all. Reasonable reponse to someone who confuses foresight (your word but not till later) with knowing the future. You wrote as if you knew, you never said wait and see in the original post, but now you modify it. Not even the grace or maturity to admit it, very small attitude to be honest NoMorePlease
  • Score: 0

10:18pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Kohelet says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.
How do you know it "is about to...." Not built yet. Can you give the Saturdays 3.30pm at Kempton if you have that gift
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: I'm just saddened that another peaceful, tranquil part of York is about to disappear beneath another modern ugly development.[/p][/quote]How do you know it "is about to...." Not built yet. Can you give the Saturdays 3.30pm at Kempton if you have that gift Kohelet
  • Score: 3

11:49pm Fri 29 Aug 14

NoMorePlease says...

Bit heavy on Mr Mellor I think. One thing is probably (before I am got at) is that what replaces it will not be as nice as what is there now
Bit heavy on Mr Mellor I think. One thing is probably (before I am got at) is that what replaces it will not be as nice as what is there now NoMorePlease
  • Score: 1

8:27am Sat 30 Aug 14

piaggio1 says...

But why turn every co.ment into something political.ther all corrupt lieing scum...
But why turn every co.ment into something political.ther all corrupt lieing scum... piaggio1
  • Score: 1

3:21pm Sat 30 Aug 14

York2000 says...

Because the Press has a pro Conservative political agenda and words every article it can to attack the council? It's pro Conservative agenda is so aggressive, it prints 'readers' letters needlessly slagging off York and hides good news stories about our city at the bottom of the pages.

The Press - The Newspaper That Hates York.
Because the Press has a pro Conservative political agenda and words every article it can to attack the council? It's pro Conservative agenda is so aggressive, it prints 'readers' letters needlessly slagging off York and hides good news stories about our city at the bottom of the pages. The Press - The Newspaper That Hates York. York2000
  • Score: 1

10:52am Tue 2 Sep 14

another grump says...

welf_man wrote:
The Convent is Grade II listed, built between 1870 and 1875 and is going to be converted. read the article, guys! (Though it has been entertaining)!
Doesn't say its going to be converted. Just says convent was in a Grade2 listed building. Grade 2 means nowt. If enough money is floated around it will soon disappear. And I read the article.
[quote][p][bold]welf_man[/bold] wrote: The Convent is Grade II listed, built between 1870 and 1875 and is going to be converted. read the article, guys! (Though it has been entertaining)![/p][/quote]Doesn't say its going to be converted. Just says convent was in a Grade2 listed building. Grade 2 means nowt. If enough money is floated around it will soon disappear. And I read the article. another grump
  • Score: 0

11:05am Tue 2 Sep 14

another grump says...

eeoodares wrote:
Why are these buildings not incorporated into to Uni campus? I have no problems with Buy to Let etc. But the areas that are predominantly student lets really do go down hill and fore out resident families.

Heslington Road, Heslington Lane, Hull Road, Badger Hill etc. are just scruffy now with zero maintenance gardens, rubbish strewn and curtains drawn all day.
Don't blame the students for all this. look closer to home.
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: Why are these buildings not incorporated into to Uni campus? I have no problems with Buy to Let etc. But the areas that are predominantly student lets really do go down hill and fore out resident families. Heslington Road, Heslington Lane, Hull Road, Badger Hill etc. are just scruffy now with zero maintenance gardens, rubbish strewn and curtains drawn all day.[/p][/quote]Don't blame the students for all this. look closer to home. another grump
  • Score: 0

3:33am Sat 6 Sep 14

Magicman! says...

If enough students are housed in purpose-built accommodation, that will mean there is not the requirement for them to be occupying houses - this will then in turn force the greedy buy-to-letters to either convert their properties back into family houses, or to sell up to a family who will take it on and convert it back at the same time.

I say it's time that whatever the maximum student capacity of the university is, that should be the target for purpose-built student accommodation, thus eliminating the need for family homes to be occupied by students. I do think though that if this development goes ahead, that one of the two high-frequency university bus routes should be redirected along Lawrence Street so as to serve that and the 'boulevard' development. We don't really need both the 4 and the 44 going along Heslington Lane every 10 mins or every 8 mins respectively - the 44 could be extended to Acomb, and then the 4 rerouted along Lawrence Street, Hull Road, possibly have one of every 2 buses going through the Badger Hill estate, and then Field Lane to Heslington East, then Heslington Hall and Wentworth before turning around at the Wentworth Roundabout (thereby avoiding the traffic queues of Green Dykes Lane)
If enough students are housed in purpose-built accommodation, that will mean there is not the requirement for them to be occupying houses - this will then in turn force the greedy buy-to-letters to either convert their properties back into family houses, or to sell up to a family who will take it on and convert it back at the same time. I say it's time that whatever the maximum student capacity of the university is, that should be the target for purpose-built student accommodation, thus eliminating the need for family homes to be occupied by students. I do think though that if this development goes ahead, that one of the two high-frequency university bus routes should be redirected along Lawrence Street so as to serve that and the 'boulevard' development. We don't really need both the 4 and the 44 going along Heslington Lane every 10 mins or every 8 mins respectively - the 44 could be extended to Acomb, and then the 4 rerouted along Lawrence Street, Hull Road, possibly have one of every 2 buses going through the Badger Hill estate, and then Field Lane to Heslington East, then Heslington Hall and Wentworth before turning around at the Wentworth Roundabout (thereby avoiding the traffic queues of Green Dykes Lane) Magicman!
  • Score: 0

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