80 staff at York's Waterworld swimming pool told they are to lose their jobs

York’s Waterworld swimming pool

York’s Waterworld swimming pool

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ABOUT 80 workers at York’s Waterworld swimming pool have been told they are being made redundant due to new plans for York’s Community Stadium, The Press has been told.

Sources say staff including managers, administrators, reception staff, cleaners and life guards were called into a meeting less than an hour before it was publicly announced Waterworld would close - and told they would not be needed after December.

It was announced on Tuesday that a brand new 8,000 seater stadium, a swimming pool to replace Waterworld, a gym, and a community hub will be built on the site of Huntington Stadium.

GLL - the company in charge of Waterworld and the gym - will head the consortium building and operating the site, and will take on the running of the council’s leisure centres at Yearsley Baths and Energise.

Stadium construction will start in spring 2015, and the site is due to open in summer 2016.

One Waterworld worker who asked not to be named said: “They started the meeting with us by saying how brilliant it was for York City Knights and football fans. Then they said they were making people redundant and knocking the building down.

“We’re demotivated and don’t know what the point is now.

“Some people have been there 15 years - people are angry.”

The member of staff said they were told they would be given priority if positions arose at Energise, but that currently the facility was fully staffed.

Another said there has been a suggestion of staff being redeployed to Manchester, London, or Leeds.

They said: “People were shocked, let down.

“It is a heartless decision. This place is the only one of its kind in the area.

“York is losing an institution. It brings a lot of money to the economy.”

As well as a new swimming pool complex with a six-lane 25 metre pool, a teaching pool and a leisure pool, it was announced the new stadium complex will house five-a-side pitches, an Explore library, NHS services, York St John University’s Institute of Community Sport and Wellbeing, and an independent living assessment centre.

A GLL spokeswoman said staff briefings were held on Tuesday for employees who might be affected by the appointment of GLL as preferred bidder for the stadium projectShe said staff were told what it might mean for them before the media briefing on the stadium plans, so they did not hear the news second-hand.

She added: “GLL informed staff of Waterworld in June that the current lease at York Waterworld was due to expire at the end of October and due to the ongoing tender process, a decision on the closure date of York Waterworld, or any extension to GLL’s lease could not yet be made.

“It was confirmed that decisions regarding staff could not be made either until after the procurement process had concluded and the preferred bidder had been announced. We also confirmed then that as soon as we had further information on this matter we would communicate this, which was done as part of the briefing sessions.”

She said there were various categories of staff and numbers were being reviewed.

She said: “Working with the council, we will endeavour to find the best choice and employment opportunities for them, when Waterworld is closed.”

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9:58am Thu 28 Aug 14

Zetkin says...

As a York City fan and long-time supporter of the planned stadium, I'm outraged that the swimming pool staff are being treated in this way.

It's scandalous that they're being told that they're "not needed" when we all know fine well that eighteen months after the redundancies, GLL will be advertising "exciting new opportunities" at the new pool.

As an "Industrial and Provident Society for the benfit of the community", that's supposedly led by its staff, GLL should be hanging its head in shame this morning, and the other participants, in the scheme, particularly CoYC and YCFC, should be insisting it keeps these people on the payroll.
As a York City fan and long-time supporter of the planned stadium, I'm outraged that the swimming pool staff are being treated in this way. It's scandalous that they're being told that they're "not needed" when we all know fine well that eighteen months after the redundancies, GLL will be advertising "exciting new opportunities" at the new pool. As an "Industrial and Provident Society for the benfit of the community", that's supposedly led by its staff, GLL should be hanging its head in shame this morning, and the other participants, in the scheme, particularly CoYC and YCFC, should be insisting it keeps these people on the payroll. Zetkin
  • Score: 42

10:29am Thu 28 Aug 14

X5019c says...

A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL.
The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican? X5019c
  • Score: 33

10:32am Thu 28 Aug 14

Dan Atkinson says...

Zetkin wrote:
As a York City fan and long-time supporter of the planned stadium, I'm outraged that the swimming pool staff are being treated in this way.

It's scandalous that they're being told that they're "not needed" when we all know fine well that eighteen months after the redundancies, GLL will be advertising "exciting new opportunities" at the new pool.

As an "Industrial and Provident Society for the benfit of the community", that's supposedly led by its staff, GLL should be hanging its head in shame this morning, and the other participants, in the scheme, particularly CoYC and YCFC, should be insisting it keeps these people on the payroll.
I absolutely agree.

I hope GLL take into account the number of staff that they're kicking out the door when they send out press releases telling the world how many jobs they're creating in the new complex.
[quote][p][bold]Zetkin[/bold] wrote: As a York City fan and long-time supporter of the planned stadium, I'm outraged that the swimming pool staff are being treated in this way. It's scandalous that they're being told that they're "not needed" when we all know fine well that eighteen months after the redundancies, GLL will be advertising "exciting new opportunities" at the new pool. As an "Industrial and Provident Society for the benfit of the community", that's supposedly led by its staff, GLL should be hanging its head in shame this morning, and the other participants, in the scheme, particularly CoYC and YCFC, should be insisting it keeps these people on the payroll.[/p][/quote]I absolutely agree. I hope GLL take into account the number of staff that they're kicking out the door when they send out press releases telling the world how many jobs they're creating in the new complex. Dan Atkinson
  • Score: 51

11:05am Thu 28 Aug 14

richiem87 says...

I am a big city fan and yes it is awful at the moment about the closure, but the long term benefits of having this redevelopment of facilities will be great for the city. The pools at the Energise and Yearsley do a good job for the space that they have, plus there are the pools at York Sport Village near Grimston Bar that people can use as well!
I am a big city fan and yes it is awful at the moment about the closure, but the long term benefits of having this redevelopment of facilities will be great for the city. The pools at the Energise and Yearsley do a good job for the space that they have, plus there are the pools at York Sport Village near Grimston Bar that people can use as well! richiem87
  • Score: -5

11:26am Thu 28 Aug 14

Poosticks says...

Chapelfields Magic wrote:
The city is struggling for suitable swimming facilities as it is. The closure of Waterworld is a disgrace. How can a city the size of York justify having Yearsley Pool and Energise as their own swimming pools? On the few occasions I took my children to Energise - it was always ram packed and we were waiting at the side of the pool for people to leave before we could get in. It's madness clsoing Waterworld.
While it is a shame that Waterworld is closing, (although I've never been!), it is excellent that we are at last getting a decent stadium. I'm hoping the new gym will also be in most people's price brackets as some of the others are extortionate. People seem to be forgetting there is the swimming pool at York Sports Village, you don't have to be a member of the gym to use it.
[quote][p][bold]Chapelfields Magic[/bold] wrote: The city is struggling for suitable swimming facilities as it is. The closure of Waterworld is a disgrace. How can a city the size of York justify having Yearsley Pool and Energise as their own swimming pools? On the few occasions I took my children to Energise - it was always ram packed and we were waiting at the side of the pool for people to leave before we could get in. It's madness clsoing Waterworld.[/p][/quote]While it is a shame that Waterworld is closing, (although I've never been!), it is excellent that we are at last getting a decent stadium. I'm hoping the new gym will also be in most people's price brackets as some of the others are extortionate. People seem to be forgetting there is the swimming pool at York Sports Village, you don't have to be a member of the gym to use it. Poosticks
  • Score: -5

11:31am Thu 28 Aug 14

bolero says...

Sounds like normal procedures in the circumstances. Stirring headlines by a newspaper as usual.
Sounds like normal procedures in the circumstances. Stirring headlines by a newspaper as usual. bolero
  • Score: 15

11:37am Thu 28 Aug 14

GBTYZ says...

X5019c wrote:
A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
[quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space. GBTYZ
  • Score: 9

11:41am Thu 28 Aug 14

Yorkkeiyyer says...

X5017 - A 50 meter pool and diving facility - is John Charles the nearest Olympic facility pool?
X5017 - A 50 meter pool and diving facility - is John Charles the nearest Olympic facility pool? Yorkkeiyyer
  • Score: 1

12:01pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Badgers Drift says...

Coun Alexander and his 'jobs and growth' agenda....

Say what?

Clueless!

PS Where are comments from him and council?
Coun Alexander and his 'jobs and growth' agenda.... Say what? Clueless! PS Where are comments from him and council? Badgers Drift
  • Score: -10

12:01pm Thu 28 Aug 14

nearlyman says...

Poosticks wrote:
Chapelfields Magic wrote:
The city is struggling for suitable swimming facilities as it is. The closure of Waterworld is a disgrace. How can a city the size of York justify having Yearsley Pool and Energise as their own swimming pools? On the few occasions I took my children to Energise - it was always ram packed and we were waiting at the side of the pool for people to leave before we could get in. It's madness clsoing Waterworld.
While it is a shame that Waterworld is closing, (although I've never been!), it is excellent that we are at last getting a decent stadium. I'm hoping the new gym will also be in most people's price brackets as some of the others are extortionate. People seem to be forgetting there is the swimming pool at York Sports Village, you don't have to be a member of the gym to use it.
What did anyone expect with COYC involved..and i wouldn't get too excited about low prices, they are bound to be higher as will be the prices to watch the football no doubt.
[quote][p][bold]Poosticks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapelfields Magic[/bold] wrote: The city is struggling for suitable swimming facilities as it is. The closure of Waterworld is a disgrace. How can a city the size of York justify having Yearsley Pool and Energise as their own swimming pools? On the few occasions I took my children to Energise - it was always ram packed and we were waiting at the side of the pool for people to leave before we could get in. It's madness clsoing Waterworld.[/p][/quote]While it is a shame that Waterworld is closing, (although I've never been!), it is excellent that we are at last getting a decent stadium. I'm hoping the new gym will also be in most people's price brackets as some of the others are extortionate. People seem to be forgetting there is the swimming pool at York Sports Village, you don't have to be a member of the gym to use it.[/p][/quote]What did anyone expect with COYC involved..and i wouldn't get too excited about low prices, they are bound to be higher as will be the prices to watch the football no doubt. nearlyman
  • Score: -12

12:02pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Zetkin says...

richiem87 wrote:
I am a big city fan and yes it is awful at the moment about the closure, but the long term benefits of having this redevelopment of facilities will be great for the city. The pools at the Energise and Yearsley do a good job for the space that they have, plus there are the pools at York Sport Village near Grimston Bar that people can use as well!
True, but the point of the article is the job losses - eighty people kicked out of their jobs, even though staff will be required to run the replacement pool within 18 months.

Those eighty people will struggle to appreciate the long term benefits of having their livelihoods wrecked, of being forced to jump through various hoops to claim jobseekers' allowance, of possibly being forced to move home if they are deemed to have a "spare room", and of being unable to afford to attend events at the community stadium or to use the new pool themselves.
[quote][p][bold]richiem87[/bold] wrote: I am a big city fan and yes it is awful at the moment about the closure, but the long term benefits of having this redevelopment of facilities will be great for the city. The pools at the Energise and Yearsley do a good job for the space that they have, plus there are the pools at York Sport Village near Grimston Bar that people can use as well![/p][/quote]True, but the point of the article is the job losses - eighty people kicked out of their jobs, even though staff will be required to run the replacement pool within 18 months. Those eighty people will struggle to appreciate the long term benefits of having their livelihoods wrecked, of being forced to jump through various hoops to claim jobseekers' allowance, of possibly being forced to move home if they are deemed to have a "spare room", and of being unable to afford to attend events at the community stadium or to use the new pool themselves. Zetkin
  • Score: 23

12:09pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Badgers Drift says...

GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates.

As for the open spaces they were sold for millions.

The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
[quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all! Badgers Drift
  • Score: -19

12:11pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Justin7 says...

But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused.

Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands.

What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to?

Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use.
But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused. Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands. What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to? Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use. Justin7
  • Score: 2

12:13pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Badgers Drift says...

bolero wrote:
Sounds like normal procedures in the circumstances. Stirring headlines by a newspaper as usual.
Reporting the facts, and with no comments from the council, I'd say that they have if anything, not stirred it.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: Sounds like normal procedures in the circumstances. Stirring headlines by a newspaper as usual.[/p][/quote]Reporting the facts, and with no comments from the council, I'd say that they have if anything, not stirred it. Badgers Drift
  • Score: -16

12:30pm Thu 28 Aug 14

anonyork says...

I feel sorry for all the staff who are being made redundant, it is awful for them and I wish them all luck in finding another job. However, Waterworld is well overdue for an upgrade or refurbishment! I took my daughter the other day and it was heaving with people; there seemed to be no attempt to limit numbers like they sometimes do. In addition, there was a notice saying that there was a problem with the pool heating and therefore they were charging a lower price that day. The changing rooms are very tatty and however much the staff try to keep them clean, they just don't ever seem clean! I always feel like I need a shower when I've come out of the shower! A lot of the showers weren't working and our changing room smelled like a men's urinal (no exaggeration, it was disgusting). Both cubicles I used were dirty - the walls smeared with something which I didn't examine closely enough to say what it was! I reported the smell to the staff and they were very efficient - I don't blame the staff for the state of the place at all. It is just a lack of money keeping the place up-to-date, clearly because the owners have been planning to close as soon as the new stadium plans were finalised!
I feel sorry for all the staff who are being made redundant, it is awful for them and I wish them all luck in finding another job. However, Waterworld is well overdue for an upgrade or refurbishment! I took my daughter the other day and it was heaving with people; there seemed to be no attempt to limit numbers like they sometimes do. In addition, there was a notice saying that there was a problem with the pool heating and therefore they were charging a lower price that day. The changing rooms are very tatty and however much the staff try to keep them clean, they just don't ever seem clean! I always feel like I need a shower when I've come out of the shower! A lot of the showers weren't working and our changing room smelled like a men's urinal (no exaggeration, it was disgusting). Both cubicles I used were dirty - the walls smeared with something which I didn't examine closely enough to say what it was! I reported the smell to the staff and they were very efficient - I don't blame the staff for the state of the place at all. It is just a lack of money keeping the place up-to-date, clearly because the owners have been planning to close as soon as the new stadium plans were finalised! anonyork
  • Score: 12

12:46pm Thu 28 Aug 14

/kev/null says...

Justin7 wrote:
But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused.

Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands.

What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to?

Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use.
I take my nephews there regularly, it's always busy at weekends. Looks like we'll have to go out of town to find a pool for them to play in after christmas. :(
[quote][p][bold]Justin7[/bold] wrote: But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused. Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands. What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to? Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use.[/p][/quote]I take my nephews there regularly, it's always busy at weekends. Looks like we'll have to go out of town to find a pool for them to play in after christmas. :( /kev/null
  • Score: 8

12:51pm Thu 28 Aug 14

GBTYZ says...

Badgers Drift wrote:
GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
Yes the Liberials were in power at the time and they did nothing for this City.
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all![/p][/quote]Yes the Liberials were in power at the time and they did nothing for this City. GBTYZ
  • Score: 16

1:02pm Thu 28 Aug 14

FortessBC says...

Waterworld was always earmarked for closure with the new stadium pending. Its sad news for the staff but no different to when the B&Q staff on Hull Road were told they could be made redundant at any time following the news that Sainsburys are to take over the building. Infact there is still no news about whether B&Q will even open another store to replace the one on Hull Road. Playing with peoples lives again.
Waterworld was always earmarked for closure with the new stadium pending. Its sad news for the staff but no different to when the B&Q staff on Hull Road were told they could be made redundant at any time following the news that Sainsburys are to take over the building. Infact there is still no news about whether B&Q will even open another store to replace the one on Hull Road. Playing with peoples lives again. FortessBC
  • Score: 6

1:18pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Yorklass74 says...

Such a shame for the kids to lose a pool with slides. 25 m pool is boring for them
Such a shame for the kids to lose a pool with slides. 25 m pool is boring for them Yorklass74
  • Score: 10

2:08pm Thu 28 Aug 14

holden79 says...

Chapelfields Magic wrote:
What has James Alexander got to say? Do you think that DUMP at Yearsley Bridge and that under-sized pool at ENERGISE is enough swimming facilities for a city the size of YORK and the surrounding areas?
Yearlsey Pool isn't a dump - it is an old open air pool brimming with character that has since had a roof added. Not everything in life has to be new, neat, and sterile. It's actually a great little pool the charm of which is clearly lost on you.
[quote][p][bold]Chapelfields Magic[/bold] wrote: What has James Alexander got to say? Do you think that DUMP at Yearsley Bridge and that under-sized pool at ENERGISE is enough swimming facilities for a city the size of YORK and the surrounding areas?[/p][/quote]Yearlsey Pool isn't a dump - it is an old open air pool brimming with character that has since had a roof added. Not everything in life has to be new, neat, and sterile. It's actually a great little pool the charm of which is clearly lost on you. holden79
  • Score: 32

2:17pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Justin7 says...

/kev/null wrote:
Justin7 wrote:
But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused.

Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands.

What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to?

Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use.
I take my nephews there regularly, it's always busy at weekends. Looks like we'll have to go out of town to find a pool for them to play in after christmas. :(
Ah, sorry to hear that. Yeah, I used to go to the Barbarian and Edmund and Wilsons. They are both gone too.

You'll get a nice one next to the football ground, but not for about 18 months I think. Not great, but hopefully better in the long run.....
[quote][p][bold]/kev/null[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Justin7[/bold] wrote: But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused. Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands. What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to? Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use.[/p][/quote]I take my nephews there regularly, it's always busy at weekends. Looks like we'll have to go out of town to find a pool for them to play in after christmas. :([/p][/quote]Ah, sorry to hear that. Yeah, I used to go to the Barbarian and Edmund and Wilsons. They are both gone too. You'll get a nice one next to the football ground, but not for about 18 months I think. Not great, but hopefully better in the long run..... Justin7
  • Score: 9

2:17pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Justin7 says...

Barbican I mean, Stupid spell check!
Barbican I mean, Stupid spell check! Justin7
  • Score: 8

2:29pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Dave Ruddock says...

Is there a Headmaster that can take these so called Parliamentary (well highly educated VOTED IN muppetts from all parties start crashing skulls ) Conservatives blame Lib/ Dem and Labor, and so on and so on. Whoever is next can cancel all that others have done.
BRING BACK YORK CORPORATION at lease it stayed responsible for the mess .
York has had a number of Baths, Football/ Rugby Grounds. This Saga with Monks Cross (Monks Angry) has been as long getting some kind of agreement, never mind the First (Sod) laid. More Unemployment (The 7 Ps learnt at school, Collage and university are never learnt .
Is there a Headmaster that can take these so called Parliamentary (well highly educated VOTED IN muppetts from all parties start crashing skulls ) Conservatives blame Lib/ Dem and Labor, and so on and so on. Whoever is next can cancel all that others have done. BRING BACK YORK CORPORATION at lease it stayed responsible for the mess . York has had a number of Baths, Football/ Rugby Grounds. This Saga with Monks Cross (Monks Angry) has been as long getting some kind of agreement, never mind the First (Sod) laid. More Unemployment (The 7 Ps learnt at school, Collage and university are never learnt . Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -17

3:05pm Thu 28 Aug 14

York1900 says...

The current Yearsley Swimming Pool was built in 1908 by Rowntree and Company Ltd and gifted by deed to the citizens of the city of York on 4th May 1909.
Yearsley Pool is part of York's proud heritage and remains the only Edwardian 50 yard pool in the north of England.
It as out lasted many other Swimming Pools in York

Going York’s Waterworld swimming pool and gone

St George's Field swimming pool
Rowntree Park outdoor swimming pool
Edmund Wilson swimming pool
Barbican swimming pool

York City council have a woeful record as far as swimming pools in York goes

They turn the running of the swimming pools to other people and the City loses every time because any replacement pool is only 25 meter pool and only lasts 10 to 30 years because they are not updated or held in complicated holding groups which do not have the interests of York people at hart
The current Yearsley Swimming Pool was built in 1908 by Rowntree and Company Ltd and gifted by deed to the citizens of the city of York on 4th May 1909. Yearsley Pool is part of York's proud heritage and remains the only Edwardian 50 yard pool in the north of England. It as out lasted many other Swimming Pools in York Going York’s Waterworld swimming pool and gone St George's Field swimming pool Rowntree Park outdoor swimming pool Edmund Wilson swimming pool Barbican swimming pool York City council have a woeful record as far as swimming pools in York goes They turn the running of the swimming pools to other people and the City loses every time because any replacement pool is only 25 meter pool and only lasts 10 to 30 years because they are not updated or held in complicated holding groups which do not have the interests of York people at hart York1900
  • Score: 4

3:11pm Thu 28 Aug 14

dbrs88 says...

Badgers Drift wrote:
GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates.

As for the open spaces they were sold for millions.

The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!"

I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans....

If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at...

Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all![/p][/quote]"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!" I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans.... If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at... Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway? dbrs88
  • Score: 15

3:11pm Thu 28 Aug 14

dbrs88 says...

Badgers Drift wrote:
GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates.

As for the open spaces they were sold for millions.

The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!"

I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans....

If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at...

Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all![/p][/quote]"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!" I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans.... If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at... Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway? dbrs88
  • Score: 7

3:26pm Thu 28 Aug 14

holden79 says...

Like I said in another article, the 'forecourt' of Yearlsey pool was due to be incorporated into a conservation zone some time in 2007..... Doesn't mean it can't get replaced by fancy housing but it would be a huge shame to lose such a charming local asset.

I'm amazed it isn't listed...... but then again how do you list a 1908 outdoor pool with a modern roof over it???
Like I said in another article, the 'forecourt' of Yearlsey pool was due to be incorporated into a conservation zone some time in 2007..... Doesn't mean it can't get replaced by fancy housing but it would be a huge shame to lose such a charming local asset. I'm amazed it isn't listed...... but then again how do you list a 1908 outdoor pool with a modern roof over it??? holden79
  • Score: 7

3:34pm Thu 28 Aug 14

pbrowne2009@live.co.uk says...

disgrace - nothing else to say really. Regardless of what fantastic facilities are being built, York needs somewhere like water world. Yes it's starting to smell, the slides are getting boring, mould looks like its getting the better of the place but this is the ONLY place in York where kids can go and have fun in a pool. My daughter loves water world and I loved it when I was younger.
York is slowly becoming a very very boring city to live in. Doncaster which is a town and smaller than York has more to offer than York residents. They even have a better football team. lol.

I hope someone comes along and builds a bigger better Water world in York
disgrace - nothing else to say really. Regardless of what fantastic facilities are being built, York needs somewhere like water world. Yes it's starting to smell, the slides are getting boring, mould looks like its getting the better of the place but this is the ONLY place in York where kids can go and have fun in a pool. My daughter loves water world and I loved it when I was younger. York is slowly becoming a very very boring city to live in. Doncaster which is a town and smaller than York has more to offer than York residents. They even have a better football team. lol. I hope someone comes along and builds a bigger better Water world in York pbrowne2009@live.co.uk
  • Score: 2

3:51pm Thu 28 Aug 14

mrlahey says...

Justin7 wrote:
But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused.

Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands.

What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to?

Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use.
Used to go to Waterworld but stopped when it got too filthy (check the Tripadvisor reviews).

"GLL - the company in charge of Waterworld and the gym - will ....... take on the running of the council’s leisure centres at Yearsley Baths and Energise."

Not good news for the quality of the facilities at Yearsley Baths and Energise.
[quote][p][bold]Justin7[/bold] wrote: But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused. Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands. What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to? Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use.[/p][/quote]Used to go to Waterworld but stopped when it got too filthy (check the Tripadvisor reviews). "GLL - the company in charge of Waterworld and the gym - will ....... take on the running of the council’s leisure centres at Yearsley Baths and Energise." Not good news for the quality of the facilities at Yearsley Baths and Energise. mrlahey
  • Score: -2

4:28pm Thu 28 Aug 14

nearlyman says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
Is there a Headmaster that can take these so called Parliamentary (well highly educated VOTED IN muppetts from all parties start crashing skulls ) Conservatives blame Lib/ Dem and Labor, and so on and so on. Whoever is next can cancel all that others have done.
BRING BACK YORK CORPORATION at lease it stayed responsible for the mess .
York has had a number of Baths, Football/ Rugby Grounds. This Saga with Monks Cross (Monks Angry) has been as long getting some kind of agreement, never mind the First (Sod) laid. More Unemployment (The 7 Ps learnt at school, Collage and university are never learnt .
The tories have been an opposition party since 1984 . Opposition parties are there to hold the governing party to account.
How many pools have been closed since 1984 ?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: Is there a Headmaster that can take these so called Parliamentary (well highly educated VOTED IN muppetts from all parties start crashing skulls ) Conservatives blame Lib/ Dem and Labor, and so on and so on. Whoever is next can cancel all that others have done. BRING BACK YORK CORPORATION at lease it stayed responsible for the mess . York has had a number of Baths, Football/ Rugby Grounds. This Saga with Monks Cross (Monks Angry) has been as long getting some kind of agreement, never mind the First (Sod) laid. More Unemployment (The 7 Ps learnt at school, Collage and university are never learnt .[/p][/quote]The tories have been an opposition party since 1984 . Opposition parties are there to hold the governing party to account. How many pools have been closed since 1984 ? nearlyman
  • Score: 9

4:34pm Thu 28 Aug 14

jake777 says...

Poosticks wrote:
Chapelfields Magic wrote:
The city is struggling for suitable swimming facilities as it is. The closure of Waterworld is a disgrace. How can a city the size of York justify having Yearsley Pool and Energise as their own swimming pools? On the few occasions I took my children to Energise - it was always ram packed and we were waiting at the side of the pool for people to leave before we could get in. It's madness clsoing Waterworld.
While it is a shame that Waterworld is closing, (although I've never been!), it is excellent that we are at last getting a decent stadium. I'm hoping the new gym will also be in most people's price brackets as some of the others are extortionate. People seem to be forgetting there is the swimming pool at York Sports Village, you don't have to be a member of the gym to use it.
you can only use the pool at York sports centre if you have one adult to each child, so you can count that out straight away.
[quote][p][bold]Poosticks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapelfields Magic[/bold] wrote: The city is struggling for suitable swimming facilities as it is. The closure of Waterworld is a disgrace. How can a city the size of York justify having Yearsley Pool and Energise as their own swimming pools? On the few occasions I took my children to Energise - it was always ram packed and we were waiting at the side of the pool for people to leave before we could get in. It's madness clsoing Waterworld.[/p][/quote]While it is a shame that Waterworld is closing, (although I've never been!), it is excellent that we are at last getting a decent stadium. I'm hoping the new gym will also be in most people's price brackets as some of the others are extortionate. People seem to be forgetting there is the swimming pool at York Sports Village, you don't have to be a member of the gym to use it.[/p][/quote]you can only use the pool at York sports centre if you have one adult to each child, so you can count that out straight away. jake777
  • Score: -11

4:37pm Thu 28 Aug 14

jake777 says...

richiem87 wrote:
I am a big city fan and yes it is awful at the moment about the closure, but the long term benefits of having this redevelopment of facilities will be great for the city. The pools at the Energise and Yearsley do a good job for the space that they have, plus there are the pools at York Sport Village near Grimston Bar that people can use as well!
You can only use York Sports village if you have one Adult to one child, so you cant use the sports village.
[quote][p][bold]richiem87[/bold] wrote: I am a big city fan and yes it is awful at the moment about the closure, but the long term benefits of having this redevelopment of facilities will be great for the city. The pools at the Energise and Yearsley do a good job for the space that they have, plus there are the pools at York Sport Village near Grimston Bar that people can use as well![/p][/quote]You can only use York Sports village if you have one Adult to one child, so you cant use the sports village. jake777
  • Score: -9

4:42pm Thu 28 Aug 14

Ichabod76 says...

dbrs88 wrote:
Badgers Drift wrote:
GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates.

As for the open spaces they were sold for millions.

The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!"

I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans....

If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at...

Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?
It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used

YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC

York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate.

So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ?
If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation.
Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business
[quote][p][bold]dbrs88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all![/p][/quote]"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!" I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans.... If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at... Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate. So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ? If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation. Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business Ichabod76
  • Score: -13

4:44pm Thu 28 Aug 14

duffy says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
dbrs88 wrote:
Badgers Drift wrote:
GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates.

As for the open spaces they were sold for millions.

The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!"

I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans....

If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at...

Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?
It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used

YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC

York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate.

So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ?
If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation.
Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business
So what is this knock down rate ? You obviously have some insider knowledge ?
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dbrs88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all![/p][/quote]"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!" I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans.... If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at... Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate. So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ? If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation. Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business[/p][/quote]So what is this knock down rate ? You obviously have some insider knowledge ? duffy
  • Score: 7

4:47pm Thu 28 Aug 14

duffy says...

dbrs88 wrote:
Badgers Drift wrote:
GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates.

As for the open spaces they were sold for millions.

The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!"

I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans....

If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at...

Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?
Steady that's far too sensible for some of the anti York City brigade on here, they would blame the football club if it rained next week.
[quote][p][bold]dbrs88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all![/p][/quote]"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!" I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans.... If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at... Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?[/p][/quote]Steady that's far too sensible for some of the anti York City brigade on here, they would blame the football club if it rained next week. duffy
  • Score: 3

9:12pm Thu 28 Aug 14

duffy says...

duffy wrote:
Ichabod76 wrote:
dbrs88 wrote:
Badgers Drift wrote:
GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates.

As for the open spaces they were sold for millions.

The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!"

I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans....

If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at...

Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?
It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used

YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC

York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate.

So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ?
If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation.
Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business
So what is this knock down rate ? You obviously have some insider knowledge ?
What a shock, no reply.
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dbrs88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all![/p][/quote]"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!" I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans.... If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at... Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate. So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ? If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation. Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business[/p][/quote]So what is this knock down rate ? You obviously have some insider knowledge ?[/p][/quote]What a shock, no reply. duffy
  • Score: 6

10:02pm Thu 28 Aug 14

NoMorePlease says...

Badgers Drift wrote:
Coun Alexander and his 'jobs and growth' agenda....

Say what?

Clueless!

PS Where are comments from him and council?
Badgers Drift says...
Coun Alexander and his 'jobs and growth' agenda....

Say what?

Clueless!

PS Where are comments from him and council?

What do you mean by this code? Is it for foreign agents? Please treat the rest of us with some intelligence and make a sensible comment that we can respond to.
[quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: Coun Alexander and his 'jobs and growth' agenda.... Say what? Clueless! PS Where are comments from him and council?[/p][/quote]Badgers Drift says... Coun Alexander and his 'jobs and growth' agenda.... Say what? Clueless! PS Where are comments from him and council? What do you mean by this code? Is it for foreign agents? Please treat the rest of us with some intelligence and make a sensible comment that we can respond to. NoMorePlease
  • Score: 6

12:21am Fri 29 Aug 14

I'msohappy.com says...

At the end of the day Waterworld needs replacing, as others have said it's smelly and unkempt, obviously it's sad for the employee's but we need to move with the times, people get laid off every day all over the country so it's not like it's a new thing is it? It will be a major benefit to York, it will take time but all good things come to those who wait.
At the end of the day Waterworld needs replacing, as others have said it's smelly and unkempt, obviously it's sad for the employee's but we need to move with the times, people get laid off every day all over the country so it's not like it's a new thing is it? It will be a major benefit to York, it will take time but all good things come to those who wait. I'msohappy.com
  • Score: 4

12:23am Fri 29 Aug 14

I'msohappy.com says...

P.S. The decisions have already been made so there's no point moaning about it.
P.S. The decisions have already been made so there's no point moaning about it. I'msohappy.com
  • Score: 1

12:25am Fri 29 Aug 14

I'msohappy.com says...

P.S. Decisions have already been made so there's no point moaning about it.
P.S. Decisions have already been made so there's no point moaning about it. I'msohappy.com
  • Score: -1

7:07am Fri 29 Aug 14

Jack Ham says...

The press simply must demand answers from James Alexander and Sonja Crisp on this. They will take all the credit for the new stadium and MUST explain why they are allowing so many people to lose their livelihood.

#jobsandgrowth. More like #debtandunemployment


More disgusted every day by Labour and City of York Council
The press simply must demand answers from James Alexander and Sonja Crisp on this. They will take all the credit for the new stadium and MUST explain why they are allowing so many people to lose their livelihood. #jobsandgrowth. More like #debtandunemployment More disgusted every day by Labour and City of York Council Jack Ham
  • Score: -20

8:38am Fri 29 Aug 14

Ichabod76 says...

duffy wrote:
duffy wrote:
Ichabod76 wrote:
dbrs88 wrote:
Badgers Drift wrote:
GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates.

As for the open spaces they were sold for millions.

The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!"

I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans....

If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at...

Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?
It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used

YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC

York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate.

So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ?
If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation.
Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business
So what is this knock down rate ? You obviously have some insider knowledge ?
What a shock, no reply.
I apologise for having a life !

If you read the planning documents you would also have " insider Knowledge " as you put it
It's not difficult, their all in the public domaine, if you type words into google even you might be able to find them !

Now why is it ok for tax payers money to be used to help a private business ?
[quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]duffy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dbrs88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all![/p][/quote]"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!" I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans.... If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at... Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate. So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ? If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation. Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business[/p][/quote]So what is this knock down rate ? You obviously have some insider knowledge ?[/p][/quote]What a shock, no reply.[/p][/quote]I apologise for having a life ! If you read the planning documents you would also have " insider Knowledge " as you put it It's not difficult, their all in the public domaine, if you type words into google even you might be able to find them ! Now why is it ok for tax payers money to be used to help a private business ? Ichabod76
  • Score: -7

9:03am Fri 29 Aug 14

Zetkin says...

Taxpayers' money is used to subsidise all sorts of private businesses.

Most of the train operating companies suck up many millions in subsidy.

Bus and ferry companies across the country are subsidised to run services.

Any company that takes on people under the various workfare schemes is having its labour costs subsidised.

When the prime minister (of any party) and members of the royal family make trips abroad promoting British exports, that is the taxpayer subsidising the companies that benefit.

When HMRC writes of a six billion pound tax debt, that is actually the taxpayer subsidising private business.

When the NHS is forced to provide services via healthcare companies, that is the taxpayer subsidising private business.

On the other side of it, without York City's input via the sale of Bootham Crescent (forced upon it by a previous owner) and the Football Foundation grant/loan, this scheme would not be happening at all.

York City Football Club is a private business, but one that is part-owned by its supporters, and one that is most definitely a community asset to the city of York. Even with the public money that's being put into the stadium, it will still have had less public money down the years than, for example, the Theatre Royal.
Taxpayers' money is used to subsidise all sorts of private businesses. Most of the train operating companies suck up many millions in subsidy. Bus and ferry companies across the country are subsidised to run services. Any company that takes on people under the various workfare schemes is having its labour costs subsidised. When the prime minister (of any party) and members of the royal family make trips abroad promoting British exports, that is the taxpayer subsidising the companies that benefit. When HMRC writes of a six billion pound tax debt, that is actually the taxpayer subsidising private business. When the NHS is forced to provide services via healthcare companies, that is the taxpayer subsidising private business. On the other side of it, without York City's input via the sale of Bootham Crescent (forced upon it by a previous owner) and the Football Foundation grant/loan, this scheme would not be happening at all. York City Football Club is a private business, but one that is part-owned by its supporters, and one that is most definitely a community asset to the city of York. Even with the public money that's being put into the stadium, it will still have had less public money down the years than, for example, the Theatre Royal. Zetkin
  • Score: 7

12:02pm Fri 29 Aug 14

I'msohappy.com says...

Jack Ham wrote:
The press simply must demand answers from James Alexander and Sonja Crisp on this. They will take all the credit for the new stadium and MUST explain why they are allowing so many people to lose their livelihood.

#jobsandgrowth. More like #debtandunemployment



More disgusted every day by Labour and City of York Council
Why would you want answers from these two? We all know by now they can't be trusted to tell the truth anyway!! Look at the wider picture,
new stadium = more jobs 18 months down the line,
new stadium = great possibility of more visitors to York,
new stadium = decent facilities for the people of York.
There was never going to be a good time to do it but it has to be done so why not now, even if it was to be delayed it's only delaying the inevitable.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: The press simply must demand answers from James Alexander and Sonja Crisp on this. They will take all the credit for the new stadium and MUST explain why they are allowing so many people to lose their livelihood. #jobsandgrowth. More like #debtandunemployment More disgusted every day by Labour and City of York Council[/p][/quote]Why would you want answers from these two? We all know by now they can't be trusted to tell the truth anyway!! Look at the wider picture, new stadium = more jobs 18 months down the line, new stadium = great possibility of more visitors to York, new stadium = decent facilities for the people of York. There was never going to be a good time to do it but it has to be done so why not now, even if it was to be delayed it's only delaying the inevitable. I'msohappy.com
  • Score: -5

3:03pm Fri 29 Aug 14

dbrs88 says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
dbrs88 wrote:
Badgers Drift wrote:
GBTYZ wrote:
X5019c wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?
Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.
The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates.

As for the open spaces they were sold for millions.

The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!
"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!"

I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans....

If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at...

Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?
It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used

YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC

York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate.

So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ?
If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation.
Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business
So maybe York City FC should stop sending coaches into local schools, supporting local charities by donating free tickets/merchandise and stop adding to community and civic pride.

I will happily put my hand in my pocket and help support the club I love, I've done it before and ill do it again.

You're right the club is a private company, but one that also provides a community service!

GLL who manage waterworld and will develop the new stadium is also a private company. So surely its their choice to knock down waterworld (which has been seen better days), not the club's or the council's, clearly it makes financial sense to them. I know it is unfortunate that many people will loose there jobs but I'm afraid that's business... Perhaps we just need a wheelie bin/ recycling / bridge scandal to stop us talking about something that happens in every industry on a daily basis. Without being unfair to those loosing their jobs, its not exactly a specialist role andtheir skills will be easily transferable in to other jobs.

At the end of the day York needs redevelopment to be commercially competitive against the likes of Leeds, Middlesbrough and Hull. Yes the council are contributing part of the costs but the whole facility will be accessible to the people of York not just the fans of York City FC.. the clue is in the name "community stadium". Please try and think outside the box.

As always these are my own opinions and I apologise if anyone takes offence to anything I've said, feel free to agree/disagree or simply not care about anything I've said.
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dbrs88[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Badgers Drift[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]GBTYZ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]X5019c[/bold] wrote: A 25m pool for a City the size of York is pathetic. Just wait until they close Yearsley. I am sure it's a done deal and already been time tabled. It will have been "thrown in" as a sweetener for GLL. The way this Council conducts it's business stinks. Remember the Barbican?[/p][/quote]Get your facts right, it was the Liberals who ran the Barbican into the ground and closed the pool. It was the Labour council who saved the venue but when they came to power the pool had already been demolised. and all we are left with is an open space.[/p][/quote]The council ran the Barbican, not the Lib Dems. The Lib Dems saved the council thousands (in business rates) by leasing it to an outside operator, and it's still operating now and providing jobs and cash from business rates. As for the open spaces they were sold for millions. The community stadium will be a bigger white elephant by the council, thanks to James alexander and Kersten England. A waste of £14m in S106 monies, and a debt of £8m plus interest - the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all![/p][/quote]"the cost of bailing out YCFC, paid for by us all!" I'm sorry.. name another event and/or organisation that regularly attracts 3000 people in York on a weekly basis, having a successful football team boosts the economy by bringing away fans to the city. So please don't blame the club and by extension the fans.... If you did the maths its probably a fraction of the council tax which is going towards this.. I'm sure there are 1000 of other aspects of the councils spending that if a far worst waste of tax payers money that this which everyone can moan at... Yes it is very unfortunate that waterworld is to close and people will loose there jobs. I for one think its silly to take away the only indoor water park but surely it was due for a upgrade anyway?[/p][/quote]It doesn't matter haw many people attend matches or what fraction of council tax is being used YCFC is a private business , with any profit being made going to the shareholders Not COYC York council won't build my business a new factory, and rent it to me at a knock down rate. So why is tax payers money being used to subsidise a private football club ? If you want to support them fair enough put your hand in your pocket and make a donation. Council tax is for essential services Not helping out private business[/p][/quote]So maybe York City FC should stop sending coaches into local schools, supporting local charities by donating free tickets/merchandise and stop adding to community and civic pride. I will happily put my hand in my pocket and help support the club I love, I've done it before and ill do it again. You're right the club is a private company, but one that also provides a community service! GLL who manage waterworld and will develop the new stadium is also a private company. So surely its their choice to knock down waterworld (which has been seen better days), not the club's or the council's, clearly it makes financial sense to them. I know it is unfortunate that many people will loose there jobs but I'm afraid that's business... Perhaps we just need a wheelie bin/ recycling / bridge scandal to stop us talking about something that happens in every industry on a daily basis. Without being unfair to those loosing their jobs, its not exactly a specialist role andtheir skills will be easily transferable in to other jobs. At the end of the day York needs redevelopment to be commercially competitive against the likes of Leeds, Middlesbrough and Hull. Yes the council are contributing part of the costs but the whole facility will be accessible to the people of York not just the fans of York City FC.. the clue is in the name "community stadium". Please try and think outside the box. As always these are my own opinions and I apologise if anyone takes offence to anything I've said, feel free to agree/disagree or simply not care about anything I've said. dbrs88
  • Score: 3

10:17pm Fri 29 Aug 14

mike.......durkin says...

its a shame all ways good fun there more things to do there it shud stay open for the kids sake its fun fun fun there there be no more eny like that in york shame.....
its a shame all ways good fun there more things to do there it shud stay open for the kids sake its fun fun fun there there be no more eny like that in york shame..... mike.......durkin
  • Score: -4

10:42pm Fri 29 Aug 14

York2000 says...

I remember the Press mocking Waterworld as a 'white elephant'. But now of course, it can manipulate an article into bashing the council, so conveniently forgets all that.

And, typically, the comments thread has descended into bickering.

Yawn.
I remember the Press mocking Waterworld as a 'white elephant'. But now of course, it can manipulate an article into bashing the council, so conveniently forgets all that. And, typically, the comments thread has descended into bickering. Yawn. York2000
  • Score: 8

10:11am Sat 30 Aug 14

Jack Ham says...

York2000 wrote:
I remember the Press mocking Waterworld as a 'white elephant'. But now of course, it can manipulate an article into bashing the council, so conveniently forgets all that.

And, typically, the comments thread has descended into bickering.

Yawn.
York2000, are you Cllr Sonja Crisp?
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I remember the Press mocking Waterworld as a 'white elephant'. But now of course, it can manipulate an article into bashing the council, so conveniently forgets all that. And, typically, the comments thread has descended into bickering. Yawn.[/p][/quote]York2000, are you Cllr Sonja Crisp? Jack Ham
  • Score: 1

10:13am Sat 30 Aug 14

Jack Ham says...

I'msohappy.com wrote:
Jack Ham wrote:
The press simply must demand answers from James Alexander and Sonja Crisp on this. They will take all the credit for the new stadium and MUST explain why they are allowing so many people to lose their livelihood.

#jobsandgrowth. More like #debtandunemployment




More disgusted every day by Labour and City of York Council
Why would you want answers from these two? We all know by now they can't be trusted to tell the truth anyway!! Look at the wider picture,
new stadium = more jobs 18 months down the line,
new stadium = great possibility of more visitors to York,
new stadium = decent facilities for the people of York.
There was never going to be a good time to do it but it has to be done so why not now, even if it was to be delayed it's only delaying the inevitable.
New jobs on worse terms and conditions...maybe..
.no details yet

Parking chaos for people living in Huntington....certai
nty

Profits for GLL at York residents expense....certainty
[quote][p][bold]I'msohappy.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: The press simply must demand answers from James Alexander and Sonja Crisp on this. They will take all the credit for the new stadium and MUST explain why they are allowing so many people to lose their livelihood. #jobsandgrowth. More like #debtandunemployment More disgusted every day by Labour and City of York Council[/p][/quote]Why would you want answers from these two? We all know by now they can't be trusted to tell the truth anyway!! Look at the wider picture, new stadium = more jobs 18 months down the line, new stadium = great possibility of more visitors to York, new stadium = decent facilities for the people of York. There was never going to be a good time to do it but it has to be done so why not now, even if it was to be delayed it's only delaying the inevitable.[/p][/quote]New jobs on worse terms and conditions...maybe.. .no details yet Parking chaos for people living in Huntington....certai nty Profits for GLL at York residents expense....certainty Jack Ham
  • Score: 2

2:56pm Sat 30 Aug 14

I'msohappy.com says...

Jack Ham wrote:
I'msohappy.com wrote:
Jack Ham wrote:
The press simply must demand answers from James Alexander and Sonja Crisp on this. They will take all the credit for the new stadium and MUST explain why they are allowing so many people to lose their livelihood.

#jobsandgrowth. More like #debtandunemployment





More disgusted every day by Labour and City of York Council
Why would you want answers from these two? We all know by now they can't be trusted to tell the truth anyway!! Look at the wider picture,
new stadium = more jobs 18 months down the line,
new stadium = great possibility of more visitors to York,
new stadium = decent facilities for the people of York.
There was never going to be a good time to do it but it has to be done so why not now, even if it was to be delayed it's only delaying the inevitable.
New jobs on worse terms and conditions...maybe..

.no details yet

Parking chaos for people living in Huntington....certai

nty

Profits for GLL at York residents expense....certainty
Oh I get it now, you seem to be looking at this from a personal point of view (Huntington resident maybe!), it's not all about you.....it's about York residents as a whole.
[quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]I'msohappy.com[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jack Ham[/bold] wrote: The press simply must demand answers from James Alexander and Sonja Crisp on this. They will take all the credit for the new stadium and MUST explain why they are allowing so many people to lose their livelihood. #jobsandgrowth. More like #debtandunemployment More disgusted every day by Labour and City of York Council[/p][/quote]Why would you want answers from these two? We all know by now they can't be trusted to tell the truth anyway!! Look at the wider picture, new stadium = more jobs 18 months down the line, new stadium = great possibility of more visitors to York, new stadium = decent facilities for the people of York. There was never going to be a good time to do it but it has to be done so why not now, even if it was to be delayed it's only delaying the inevitable.[/p][/quote]New jobs on worse terms and conditions...maybe.. .no details yet Parking chaos for people living in Huntington....certai nty Profits for GLL at York residents expense....certainty[/p][/quote]Oh I get it now, you seem to be looking at this from a personal point of view (Huntington resident maybe!), it's not all about you.....it's about York residents as a whole. I'msohappy.com
  • Score: -1

3:30pm Sat 30 Aug 14

York2000 says...

Jack Ham - Are you Chris Steward?
Jack Ham - Are you Chris Steward? York2000
  • Score: -1

3:47am Sat 6 Sep 14

Magicman! says...

Justin7 wrote:
But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused.

Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands.

What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to?

Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use.
It was running at a loss because of several issues:

Poor maintenance, including cleaning;
Water slides not operating on school days until 5pm;
opening times reduced from 8pm or even 9pm down to 7pm, and as I recall some days it closed at 6pm;
Catering facilities were abysmal;
and, most importantly, entry prices were too high.

basically, since the current company took over, standards have been reduced whilst prices have gone up - a sure fire way to bankrupt yourself. One of the water slides has been leaking outside for at least 5 years, and nothing has ever been done about it... I've even seen boiling hot water gushing out of the overflow pipe (which is about 20ft above ground level of the small side road which goes to the go-karting place) on a few occasions before now too.


A few years back, this pool was heaving... queues for the water slides went all the way down the tower and right along the elevated walkway down to where the slides ended; the lazy river really was lazy, as you couldn't try and rush through it as there were too many people in the way; you could be waiting 15 minutes for a changing room after your swim. If there is anybody working at the pool who has worked there since it opened, they'd be able to look at what has gone wrong - and the key factor will be the prices for getting in.
[quote][p][bold]Justin7[/bold] wrote: But I don't know anyone who goes there and if you search google about it, it has a reputation of being covered in faeces and completely underused. Sad for 80 people, but the new facilities will provide jobs for hundreds if not thousands. What's the alternative? Keep running it at a loss and do nothing for a facility no one goes to? Again it's the political trolls, who say nothing about the amazing new facility that will be built in this area, but cry over a place they never use.[/p][/quote]It was running at a loss because of several issues: Poor maintenance, including cleaning; Water slides not operating on school days until 5pm; opening times reduced from 8pm or even 9pm down to 7pm, and as I recall some days it closed at 6pm; Catering facilities were abysmal; and, most importantly, entry prices were too high. basically, since the current company took over, standards have been reduced whilst prices have gone up - a sure fire way to bankrupt yourself. One of the water slides has been leaking outside for at least 5 years, and nothing has ever been done about it... I've even seen boiling hot water gushing out of the overflow pipe (which is about 20ft above ground level of the small side road which goes to the go-karting place) on a few occasions before now too. A few years back, this pool was heaving... queues for the water slides went all the way down the tower and right along the elevated walkway down to where the slides ended; the lazy river really was lazy, as you couldn't try and rush through it as there were too many people in the way; you could be waiting 15 minutes for a changing room after your swim. If there is anybody working at the pool who has worked there since it opened, they'd be able to look at what has gone wrong - and the key factor will be the prices for getting in. Magicman!
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