Is Bishopthorpe Road the best High Street in Britain?

Bishopthorpe Road decked out with bunting for the arrival of  the Tour de France

Bishopthorpe Road decked out with bunting for the arrival of the Tour de France

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IT'S already been named as one of the UK's hippest areas and now Bishopthorpe Road is making a bid to be crowned the Great British High Street of the Year.

Bishopthorpe Road has been entered into the Great British High Street of the Year awards, and local people are being asked to back the bid.

Last year the Clementhorpe area was ranked at ninth place in The Times top 30 of the coolest places to live, and likened to Notting Hill, beating Jesmond in Newcastle, Jericho in Oxford and Kemp Town in Brighton.

The application in the 'local parade of shops' category was submitted by the Bishy Road Traders Association, which represents about 60 independent and not for profit organisations that trade on or around the Bishopthorpe Road area.

Johnny Hayes, chairman of the Bishy Road Traders Association, said: “We had a look at the criteria and thought that our own street stood up rather well against it so decided why not give it a go. The judges are looking for high streets that are linked closely to their communities and that is what we try and do here. At the very least we get to fly the flag for York.

“Bishopthorpe Road is a fine example of a thriving local shopping area. At its core is an ethos built on the power of hard work and determination, where business work together to protect and enhance the community they serve.

"Our actions are not purely about making money. It is about giving something back. And that something is a street which the community calls its own, where people know you by name, where sustainable jobs are created, virtually anything you need is sold and great street parties are thrown. Every community needs a street like Bishy Road."

The association is appealing for support of the nomination, particularly by usingTwitter to show their support using the hashtag #GBHighSt to accompany tweets and images.

Judging will take place during September and October. The winners will be announced during November 2014.

Clementhorpe – which includes streets near to Bishopthorpe Road and Terry Avenue - was last year described by The Times as being a once boring suburb until a number of cafés and a deli opened in “Bishy Road”.

The website for the Great British High Street awards is thegreatbritishhighstreet.co.uk

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9:03am Wed 27 Aug 14

MrsHoney says...

I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-)
I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-) MrsHoney
  • Score: 32

9:09am Wed 27 Aug 14

nearlyman says...

No....they just think they are !!
No....they just think they are !! nearlyman
  • Score: 25

9:47am Wed 27 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

MrsHoney wrote:
I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-)
Why not park up and have a shop or even a bite to eat.
[quote][p][bold]MrsHoney[/bold] wrote: I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-)[/p][/quote]Why not park up and have a shop or even a bite to eat. eeoodares
  • Score: 17

9:48am Wed 27 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

nearlyman wrote:
No....they just think they are !!
Do you prefer Market Street in Morrisons?
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: No....they just think they are !![/p][/quote]Do you prefer Market Street in Morrisons? eeoodares
  • Score: 22

10:10am Wed 27 Aug 14

again says...

Ssssshhhhh! Don't shout too loud or some corporation will swoop in and buy the lot!
Ssssshhhhh! Don't shout too loud or some corporation will swoop in and buy the lot! again
  • Score: 0

10:40am Wed 27 Aug 14

Alf Garnett says...

Trinacria.
Trinacria. Alf Garnett
  • Score: 6

10:41am Wed 27 Aug 14

BL2 says...

eeoodares wrote:
MrsHoney wrote:
I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-)
Why not park up and have a shop or even a bite to eat.
Already have - not interested in doing it again. Probably ok for the people who live around there though.
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsHoney[/bold] wrote: I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-)[/p][/quote]Why not park up and have a shop or even a bite to eat.[/p][/quote]Already have - not interested in doing it again. Probably ok for the people who live around there though. BL2
  • Score: -5

11:02am Wed 27 Aug 14

MrsPickles says...

Best local Shopping Parade is the category they are entering. Award winning shops, Tour de Yorkshire Award for street decoration, shortlisted for Community Pride awards , the list goes on. And NO boarded up shop fronts ! That's quite unusual in this day and age - Well done Bishy road !
Best local Shopping Parade is the category they are entering. Award winning shops, Tour de Yorkshire Award for street decoration, shortlisted for Community Pride awards , the list goes on. And NO boarded up shop fronts ! That's quite unusual in this day and age - Well done Bishy road ! MrsPickles
  • Score: 43

11:03am Wed 27 Aug 14

johnny hayes says...

I wanted to make it clear Bishy Road is applying in one of 6 categories in the Great British High Street Competition. That category is for "a local parade of shops and businesses outside of London in an urban area." Many of these parades have died in recent years. Bishy Road is doing what it can to prosper and be proud of itself and the community it serves.
Johnny Hayes (Chairman Bishy Road Traders.)
I wanted to make it clear Bishy Road is applying in one of 6 categories in the Great British High Street Competition. That category is for "a local parade of shops and businesses outside of London in an urban area." Many of these parades have died in recent years. Bishy Road is doing what it can to prosper and be proud of itself and the community it serves. Johnny Hayes (Chairman Bishy Road Traders.) johnny hayes
  • Score: 59

11:44am Wed 27 Aug 14

malonemalone says...

it's only folk that live in the area that think it is special, it's not really..............
but it's always good for a laugh listening to the locals go on about it
it's only folk that live in the area that think it is special, it's not really.............. but it's always good for a laugh listening to the locals go on about it malonemalone
  • Score: -21

12:08pm Wed 27 Aug 14

MrsHoney says...

eeoodares wrote:
MrsHoney wrote:
I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-)
Why not park up and have a shop or even a bite to eat.
I have thought about it but the carpark looks too much of a pain to get out of I'm afraid. People obviously do manage it or it would always be full!!! One day..... Also, my husband won't go with me for a cuppa because he thinks the people there are up their own backsides!
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsHoney[/bold] wrote: I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-)[/p][/quote]Why not park up and have a shop or even a bite to eat.[/p][/quote]I have thought about it but the carpark looks too much of a pain to get out of I'm afraid. People obviously do manage it or it would always be full!!! One day..... Also, my husband won't go with me for a cuppa because he thinks the people there are up their own backsides! MrsHoney
  • Score: -4

12:29pm Wed 27 Aug 14

johnny hayes says...

To clarify : Bishy Road is a trade name for those businesses that are members of the Bishopthorpe Road Traders Association. They may be on Bisopthorpe Road or Nunnery Lane or Scarcroft Road or somewhere close by. It has to be abbreviated . So it is Bishy Road for short.
To clarify : Bishy Road is a trade name for those businesses that are members of the Bishopthorpe Road Traders Association. They may be on Bisopthorpe Road or Nunnery Lane or Scarcroft Road or somewhere close by. It has to be abbreviated . So it is Bishy Road for short. johnny hayes
  • Score: 16

12:59pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Bishy, Scarcy, Taddy, Poppy, Becky, Heso.

No problems with any of those.
Bishy, Scarcy, Taddy, Poppy, Becky, Heso. No problems with any of those. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 23

1:13pm Wed 27 Aug 14

stu3466 says...

i live there ,and its nothing special
i live there ,and its nothing special stu3466
  • Score: 1

1:46pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Woody G Mellor says...

I live here, and its very special, like me.
I live here, and its very special, like me. Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -12

1:48pm Wed 27 Aug 14

yawn.. says...

I don't think it's so much the street that makes itself special as it is the people that make up the community that make an area special. People in this area clearly take a great pride in the image they wish to convey to the rest of York and hats off to them for it.!

Speaking to one of the residents on the run up to the Tour de France they said they were really looking forward to the day, to the street being closed to traffic and the ensuing all day street party. It was nice to see such an uplifting view to this event when clouds of gloom and doom were dotted around other parts of York.
I don't think it's so much the street that makes itself special as it is the people that make up the community that make an area special. People in this area clearly take a great pride in the image they wish to convey to the rest of York and hats off to them for it.! Speaking to one of the residents on the run up to the Tour de France they said they were really looking forward to the day, to the street being closed to traffic and the ensuing all day street party. It was nice to see such an uplifting view to this event when clouds of gloom and doom were dotted around other parts of York. yawn..
  • Score: 33

2:36pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Monks Boss says...

Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else.
Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else. Monks Boss
  • Score: -2

3:20pm Wed 27 Aug 14

JenJackson says...

Bit of a misleading headline - a parade of shops isn't the same as a High Street
Bit of a misleading headline - a parade of shops isn't the same as a High Street JenJackson
  • Score: 12

3:21pm Wed 27 Aug 14

piemagico says...

Monks Boss wrote:
Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else.
If the shops' owners and the community (yuppies and posh professionals as you say) had not put so much time and effort into the streets then they'd be like most small parades of shops in Yorkshire - empty or full of charity shops and fast food joints. I am massively impressed by the people who have taken what is frankly quite an unattractive and traffic-filled street and turned it into something thriving.
[quote][p][bold]Monks Boss[/bold] wrote: Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else.[/p][/quote]If the shops' owners and the community (yuppies and posh professionals as you say) had not put so much time and effort into the streets then they'd be like most small parades of shops in Yorkshire - empty or full of charity shops and fast food joints. I am massively impressed by the people who have taken what is frankly quite an unattractive and traffic-filled street and turned it into something thriving. piemagico
  • Score: 17

3:22pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Woody G Mellor says...

Monks Boss wrote:
Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else.
Oh what utter tosh! One does not become instantly posh or a yuppie just because one is an investment banker on £750000 per annum plus bonus. Now, tootle off back to your rented abode won't you. There's a good chap.

Lord W G Mellor. Residing on Bishopthorpe Rd. (The posh bit).
[quote][p][bold]Monks Boss[/bold] wrote: Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Oh what utter tosh! One does not become instantly posh or a yuppie just because one is an investment banker on £750000 per annum plus bonus. Now, tootle off back to your rented abode won't you. There's a good chap. Lord W G Mellor. Residing on Bishopthorpe Rd. (The posh bit). Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -19

4:57pm Wed 27 Aug 14

Tug job says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Monks Boss wrote:
Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else.
Oh what utter tosh! One does not become instantly posh or a yuppie just because one is an investment banker on £750000 per annum plus bonus. Now, tootle off back to your rented abode won't you. There's a good chap.

Lord W G Mellor. Residing on Bishopthorpe Rd. (The posh bit).
There are no "posh" bits on Bishy Road (as it has been known for decades).
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Monks Boss[/bold] wrote: Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else.[/p][/quote]Oh what utter tosh! One does not become instantly posh or a yuppie just because one is an investment banker on £750000 per annum plus bonus. Now, tootle off back to your rented abode won't you. There's a good chap. Lord W G Mellor. Residing on Bishopthorpe Rd. (The posh bit).[/p][/quote]There are no "posh" bits on Bishy Road (as it has been known for decades). Tug job
  • Score: 4

4:59pm Wed 27 Aug 14

meme says...

Answer to headline has to be NO............... but its not a bad effort at all!
And a big hand to the retailers etc who have done there best to turn a tatty parade into a desirable and attractive place to spend an hour or so!....If only some of the contributors on here had the same community spirit York would be a better place for it so well done Bisshy road retailers...Keep it up
Answer to headline has to be NO............... but its not a bad effort at all! And a big hand to the retailers etc who have done there best to turn a tatty parade into a desirable and attractive place to spend an hour or so!....If only some of the contributors on here had the same community spirit York would be a better place for it so well done Bisshy road retailers...Keep it up meme
  • Score: 8

6:02pm Wed 27 Aug 14

notmyrealname says...

Agree with the previous comment - the only sign of a retail chain in Bishy road is Dominos and Sainsbury. You can bet that Starbucks and the like have there feelers out - just let them try !!! If everyone stuck to independent retailers in every street we wouldn't now be beholden to the big retailers who bleed every area dry .
Agree with the previous comment - the only sign of a retail chain in Bishy road is Dominos and Sainsbury. You can bet that Starbucks and the like have there feelers out - just let them try !!! If everyone stuck to independent retailers in every street we wouldn't now be beholden to the big retailers who bleed every area dry . notmyrealname
  • Score: 12

7:07pm Wed 27 Aug 14

malonemalone says...

johnny hayes wrote:
To clarify : Bishy Road is a trade name for those businesses that are members of the Bishopthorpe Road Traders Association. They may be on Bisopthorpe Road or Nunnery Lane or Scarcroft Road or somewhere close by. It has to be abbreviated . So it is Bishy Road for short.
still a cringe making name 'Bishy' ugh........Bishy sounds like.....P
[quote][p][bold]johnny hayes[/bold] wrote: To clarify : Bishy Road is a trade name for those businesses that are members of the Bishopthorpe Road Traders Association. They may be on Bisopthorpe Road or Nunnery Lane or Scarcroft Road or somewhere close by. It has to be abbreviated . So it is Bishy Road for short.[/p][/quote]still a cringe making name 'Bishy' ugh........Bishy sounds like.....P malonemalone
  • Score: -2

7:18pm Wed 27 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

MrsHoney wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
MrsHoney wrote:
I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-)
Why not park up and have a shop or even a bite to eat.
I have thought about it but the carpark looks too much of a pain to get out of I'm afraid. People obviously do manage it or it would always be full!!! One day..... Also, my husband won't go with me for a cuppa because he thinks the people there are up their own backsides!
He probably would not be comfortable anywhere nice. It takes assorts to make a world, good luck to him.
[quote][p][bold]MrsHoney[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MrsHoney[/bold] wrote: I really hate that abbreviation, Bishy Rd, for some reason it just gets my back up. It does look a nice road but I've lived in York for about 15 years, driven along it almost every day for 5 and have never once walked along it and looked in the shops etc. It's obviously popular though so it's no skin off their nose. ;-)[/p][/quote]Why not park up and have a shop or even a bite to eat.[/p][/quote]I have thought about it but the carpark looks too much of a pain to get out of I'm afraid. People obviously do manage it or it would always be full!!! One day..... Also, my husband won't go with me for a cuppa because he thinks the people there are up their own backsides![/p][/quote]He probably would not be comfortable anywhere nice. It takes assorts to make a world, good luck to him. eeoodares
  • Score: 1

7:23pm Wed 27 Aug 14

eeoodares says...

Monks Boss wrote:
Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else.
What, you remember it when it had restaurants before and fishmongers a post office, etc...It has always been lovely apart from the blip when it was estate agents and cheap sausage roll shops. I know most of the people in my street and most have lived in the area for decades. I think you might be confused.
[quote][p][bold]Monks Boss[/bold] wrote: Bishy road is all a bit pretentious i can remember what it was like in the 80s.What has happened is an influx of yuppies from darn sarf and posh professionals.And they want to make it like a hamlet of London which it isn't.Bishy road will always be York for Yorkshire people long after these yuppies have moved on to another deli or cupcake shop somewhere else.[/p][/quote]What, you remember it when it had restaurants before and fishmongers a post office, etc...It has always been lovely apart from the blip when it was estate agents and cheap sausage roll shops. I know most of the people in my street and most have lived in the area for decades. I think you might be confused. eeoodares
  • Score: 2

8:13pm Wed 27 Aug 14

york_chap says...

I think the answer as to whether it's the best high street in Britain really depends on what you're looking for from a high street. If it's artisan cupcakes, 'vintage' bunting and expensive greeting cards then yes, it's probably a strong contender.

There was a time not too long ago when the street had amenities such as a post office, two greengrocers and two bakeries etc to serve the day to day needs of ordinary local folk. It's great there's still plenty of life in the street, but also a shame it's had to try taking on some kind of 'edgy' London vibe to achieve this.

As the local old folks have died off, they've been replaced by trendy, organic, hand-crafted, hipster types who are gradually Londonifying the area and pushing up prices accordingly. I'm considering running a book on when the first artisan chocolate shop, 'gourmet street food' outlet and branch of Foxtons will open up on Bishy Rue. Maybe within a few years it could even be a mecca for street art and trendy 'speakeasy' cocktail bars like they have in the East End....
I think the answer as to whether it's the best high street in Britain really depends on what you're looking for from a high street. If it's artisan cupcakes, 'vintage' bunting and expensive greeting cards then yes, it's probably a strong contender. There was a time not too long ago when the street had amenities such as a post office, two greengrocers and two bakeries etc to serve the day to day needs of ordinary local folk. It's great there's still plenty of life in the street, but also a shame it's had to try taking on some kind of 'edgy' London vibe to achieve this. As the local old folks have died off, they've been replaced by trendy, organic, hand-crafted, hipster types who are gradually Londonifying the area and pushing up prices accordingly. I'm considering running a book on when the first artisan chocolate shop, 'gourmet street food' outlet and branch of Foxtons will open up on Bishy Rue. Maybe within a few years it could even be a mecca for street art and trendy 'speakeasy' cocktail bars like they have in the East End.... york_chap
  • Score: 4

8:18pm Wed 27 Aug 14

popsiclesnsticks says...

I'm a bit shocked by some of these comments - kind of bitter sounding to me! I've lived just off Bishopthorpe Road for around 15 years and have seen it change. Whilst there are some shops that are aimed at the more well-off types there are still a range of businesses that, I think, cater for all types and pockets. I've even bought one nail, from Pexton's, when I only needed one and I've been assisted by the friendly and knowledgeable staff there with all sorts of things, like mending a clothes airer to save me buying a new one. The chemist's will pick up your prescription, make it up and deliver it to your door. Millie's fruit shop is vastly improved as compared to the previous similar shops when I moved here. McBride's Optician is so much better than a chain store - you get seen really quickly and he always tries to give you discounts so it doesn't end up being more expensive in the long run. Trinacria has fantastic, and not expensive, Italian food and at long last we have somewhere spacious to go for a lunch out. I only went in the 'new' coffee shop a week or so ago and, yes, they don't sell cheap, overbrewed filter coffee - they sell delicious, freshly ground coffee and fantastic carrot muffins and the owner there is, like nearly all the salespeople on the road, really friendly. Thinking about it, I guess that's what makes the difference - that, almost without exception (!) the business owners and salespeople are friendly, enjoy a chat and are not just out to get your money out of you - so if feels like a community. Not every shop is going to appeal to everyone is it - and things that don't change and develop, die. Yes, some shops are more 'upmarket' than they used to be, but then lots of people now have more disposable cash and kids all seem to have mobile phones and satellite tv. So, isn't it just that it depends what you want to spend your dosh on? Personally, I've never enjoyed greasy-smelling cafes, or veg you have to root through to find a non-mouldy potato. The only real disappointment was to lose the Post Office, in my view. Perhaps those who are negative about ''Bishy Road'' should park for an hour (is it still only 20p?) in the car park, stroll around and do your usual mega-supermarket shop on our street and then sit on the bench on the corner with a freshly brewed coffee and a muffin and people-watch. If that doesn't change your mind, I'd suggest a visit to McBrides as it may be that you need new specs or, if that doesn't work, I think there's still a therapist on the street - perhaps they could help you get rid of that 'green-eye' disease you seem to have contracted! Let's celebrate what we have and, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all!
I'm a bit shocked by some of these comments - kind of bitter sounding to me! I've lived just off Bishopthorpe Road for around 15 years and have seen it change. Whilst there are some shops that are aimed at the more well-off types there are still a range of businesses that, I think, cater for all types and pockets. I've even bought one nail, from Pexton's, when I only needed one and I've been assisted by the friendly and knowledgeable staff there with all sorts of things, like mending a clothes airer to save me buying a new one. The chemist's will pick up your prescription, make it up and deliver it to your door. Millie's fruit shop is vastly improved as compared to the previous similar shops when I moved here. McBride's Optician is so much better than a chain store - you get seen really quickly and he always tries to give you discounts so it doesn't end up being more expensive in the long run. Trinacria has fantastic, and not expensive, Italian food and at long last we have somewhere spacious to go for a lunch out. I only went in the 'new' coffee shop a week or so ago and, yes, they don't sell cheap, overbrewed filter coffee - they sell delicious, freshly ground coffee and fantastic carrot muffins and the owner there is, like nearly all the salespeople on the road, really friendly. Thinking about it, I guess that's what makes the difference - that, almost without exception (!) the business owners and salespeople are friendly, enjoy a chat and are not just out to get your money out of you - so if feels like a community. Not every shop is going to appeal to everyone is it - and things that don't change and develop, die. Yes, some shops are more 'upmarket' than they used to be, but then lots of people now have more disposable cash and kids all seem to have mobile phones and satellite tv. So, isn't it just that it depends what you want to spend your dosh on? Personally, I've never enjoyed greasy-smelling cafes, or veg you have to root through to find a non-mouldy potato. The only real disappointment was to lose the Post Office, in my view. Perhaps those who are negative about ''Bishy Road'' should park for an hour (is it still only 20p?) in the car park, stroll around and do your usual mega-supermarket shop on our street and then sit on the bench on the corner with a freshly brewed coffee and a muffin and people-watch. If that doesn't change your mind, I'd suggest a visit to McBrides as it may be that you need new specs or, if that doesn't work, I think there's still a therapist on the street - perhaps they could help you get rid of that 'green-eye' disease you seem to have contracted! Let's celebrate what we have and, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all! popsiclesnsticks
  • Score: 25

9:34pm Wed 27 Aug 14

piemagico says...

york_chap wrote:
I think the answer as to whether it's the best high street in Britain really depends on what you're looking for from a high street. If it's artisan cupcakes, 'vintage' bunting and expensive greeting cards then yes, it's probably a strong contender.

There was a time not too long ago when the street had amenities such as a post office, two greengrocers and two bakeries etc to serve the day to day needs of ordinary local folk. It's great there's still plenty of life in the street, but also a shame it's had to try taking on some kind of 'edgy' London vibe to achieve this.

As the local old folks have died off, they've been replaced by trendy, organic, hand-crafted, hipster types who are gradually Londonifying the area and pushing up prices accordingly. I'm considering running a book on when the first artisan chocolate shop, 'gourmet street food' outlet and branch of Foxtons will open up on Bishy Rue. Maybe within a few years it could even be a mecca for street art and trendy 'speakeasy' cocktail bars like they have in the East End....
Can you give some examples of where streets like this exist? I mean in terms of location not in terms of the 1950s.
[quote][p][bold]york_chap[/bold] wrote: I think the answer as to whether it's the best high street in Britain really depends on what you're looking for from a high street. If it's artisan cupcakes, 'vintage' bunting and expensive greeting cards then yes, it's probably a strong contender. There was a time not too long ago when the street had amenities such as a post office, two greengrocers and two bakeries etc to serve the day to day needs of ordinary local folk. It's great there's still plenty of life in the street, but also a shame it's had to try taking on some kind of 'edgy' London vibe to achieve this. As the local old folks have died off, they've been replaced by trendy, organic, hand-crafted, hipster types who are gradually Londonifying the area and pushing up prices accordingly. I'm considering running a book on when the first artisan chocolate shop, 'gourmet street food' outlet and branch of Foxtons will open up on Bishy Rue. Maybe within a few years it could even be a mecca for street art and trendy 'speakeasy' cocktail bars like they have in the East End....[/p][/quote]Can you give some examples of where streets like this exist? I mean in terms of location not in terms of the 1950s. piemagico
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10:15pm Wed 27 Aug 14

MrsPickles says...

piemagico wrote:
york_chap wrote:
I think the answer as to whether it's the best high street in Britain really depends on what you're looking for from a high street. If it's artisan cupcakes, 'vintage' bunting and expensive greeting cards then yes, it's probably a strong contender.

There was a time not too long ago when the street had amenities such as a post office, two greengrocers and two bakeries etc to serve the day to day needs of ordinary local folk. It's great there's still plenty of life in the street, but also a shame it's had to try taking on some kind of 'edgy' London vibe to achieve this.

As the local old folks have died off, they've been replaced by trendy, organic, hand-crafted, hipster types who are gradually Londonifying the area and pushing up prices accordingly. I'm considering running a book on when the first artisan chocolate shop, 'gourmet street food' outlet and branch of Foxtons will open up on Bishy Rue. Maybe within a few years it could even be a mecca for street art and trendy 'speakeasy' cocktail bars like they have in the East End....
Can you give some examples of where streets like this exist? I mean in terms of location not in terms of the 1950s.
I don't think the retailers down Bishy rd have deliberately contrived the 'edgy London vibe' that piemagico mentioned. It still has the basic traditional Baker, Butcher, Hardware store, Bike shop, bed and carpet shop, Optician and Chemist and that is pretty good going in this day and age. Looks like some people would prefer a 'run down vibe', smelly fried chicken and pawn shops, but let's face it - it all boils down to inverted snobbery doesn't it ?!
[quote][p][bold]piemagico[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]york_chap[/bold] wrote: I think the answer as to whether it's the best high street in Britain really depends on what you're looking for from a high street. If it's artisan cupcakes, 'vintage' bunting and expensive greeting cards then yes, it's probably a strong contender. There was a time not too long ago when the street had amenities such as a post office, two greengrocers and two bakeries etc to serve the day to day needs of ordinary local folk. It's great there's still plenty of life in the street, but also a shame it's had to try taking on some kind of 'edgy' London vibe to achieve this. As the local old folks have died off, they've been replaced by trendy, organic, hand-crafted, hipster types who are gradually Londonifying the area and pushing up prices accordingly. I'm considering running a book on when the first artisan chocolate shop, 'gourmet street food' outlet and branch of Foxtons will open up on Bishy Rue. Maybe within a few years it could even be a mecca for street art and trendy 'speakeasy' cocktail bars like they have in the East End....[/p][/quote]Can you give some examples of where streets like this exist? I mean in terms of location not in terms of the 1950s.[/p][/quote]I don't think the retailers down Bishy rd have deliberately contrived the 'edgy London vibe' that piemagico mentioned. It still has the basic traditional Baker, Butcher, Hardware store, Bike shop, bed and carpet shop, Optician and Chemist and that is pretty good going in this day and age. Looks like some people would prefer a 'run down vibe', smelly fried chicken and pawn shops, but let's face it - it all boils down to inverted snobbery doesn't it ?! MrsPickles
  • Score: 9

8:25am Thu 28 Aug 14

Woody G Mellor says...

MrsPickles wrote:
piemagico wrote:
york_chap wrote:
I think the answer as to whether it's the best high street in Britain really depends on what you're looking for from a high street. If it's artisan cupcakes, 'vintage' bunting and expensive greeting cards then yes, it's probably a strong contender.

There was a time not too long ago when the street had amenities such as a post office, two greengrocers and two bakeries etc to serve the day to day needs of ordinary local folk. It's great there's still plenty of life in the street, but also a shame it's had to try taking on some kind of 'edgy' London vibe to achieve this.

As the local old folks have died off, they've been replaced by trendy, organic, hand-crafted, hipster types who are gradually Londonifying the area and pushing up prices accordingly. I'm considering running a book on when the first artisan chocolate shop, 'gourmet street food' outlet and branch of Foxtons will open up on Bishy Rue. Maybe within a few years it could even be a mecca for street art and trendy 'speakeasy' cocktail bars like they have in the East End....
Can you give some examples of where streets like this exist? I mean in terms of location not in terms of the 1950s.
I don't think the retailers down Bishy rd have deliberately contrived the 'edgy London vibe' that piemagico mentioned. It still has the basic traditional Baker, Butcher, Hardware store, Bike shop, bed and carpet shop, Optician and Chemist and that is pretty good going in this day and age. Looks like some people would prefer a 'run down vibe', smelly fried chicken and pawn shops, but let's face it - it all boils down to inverted snobbery doesn't it ?!
"Inverted snobbery" Well said! And may I add, envy.
[quote][p][bold]MrsPickles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]piemagico[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]york_chap[/bold] wrote: I think the answer as to whether it's the best high street in Britain really depends on what you're looking for from a high street. If it's artisan cupcakes, 'vintage' bunting and expensive greeting cards then yes, it's probably a strong contender. There was a time not too long ago when the street had amenities such as a post office, two greengrocers and two bakeries etc to serve the day to day needs of ordinary local folk. It's great there's still plenty of life in the street, but also a shame it's had to try taking on some kind of 'edgy' London vibe to achieve this. As the local old folks have died off, they've been replaced by trendy, organic, hand-crafted, hipster types who are gradually Londonifying the area and pushing up prices accordingly. I'm considering running a book on when the first artisan chocolate shop, 'gourmet street food' outlet and branch of Foxtons will open up on Bishy Rue. Maybe within a few years it could even be a mecca for street art and trendy 'speakeasy' cocktail bars like they have in the East End....[/p][/quote]Can you give some examples of where streets like this exist? I mean in terms of location not in terms of the 1950s.[/p][/quote]I don't think the retailers down Bishy rd have deliberately contrived the 'edgy London vibe' that piemagico mentioned. It still has the basic traditional Baker, Butcher, Hardware store, Bike shop, bed and carpet shop, Optician and Chemist and that is pretty good going in this day and age. Looks like some people would prefer a 'run down vibe', smelly fried chicken and pawn shops, but let's face it - it all boils down to inverted snobbery doesn't it ?![/p][/quote]"Inverted snobbery" Well said! And may I add, envy. Woody G Mellor
  • Score: 4

2:33pm Thu 28 Aug 14

popsiclesnsticks says...

I really don't think that the traders are deliberately trying to make the area "trendy": basically, the shops that last are the shops that the locals spend money in.
With the current financial crisis, having been made redundant or whatever, lots of people are trying to run their own businesses - and if they offer what we want, they will be supported and profitable.
Personally, I would prefer the road not to have chain stores - such as Sainsburys - but, we can all choose where to shop, and where NOT to.
No, the 'new' coffee shop on the corner isn't the 'old-style' filter coffee and toast with margarine for a quid. Why isn't it like that? - because most people don't want it to be like that anymore. The 'new' coffee shop is fairly similar in range, quality and price with city centre shops - and it's on our doorstep! Also, even better, it isn't owned by Starbucks but belongs and is run by an independent person/s.
The demographic of the average 'local' in the area has changed (but I'm not in any way supporting the lack of affordable housing in York here!) so the shops that service the area have changed.
I love this area, and I like that the shops have changed (other than the Post Office!) and I look forwards to seeing what other, independent (I hope) businesses will come here. We will, though, get what we want - because if we don't want it, we won't spend our money in it and it will go - I think they call that supply and demand don't they?
I really don't think that the traders are deliberately trying to make the area "trendy": basically, the shops that last are the shops that the locals spend money in. With the current financial crisis, having been made redundant or whatever, lots of people are trying to run their own businesses - and if they offer what we want, they will be supported and profitable. Personally, I would prefer the road not to have chain stores - such as Sainsburys - but, we can all choose where to shop, and where NOT to. No, the 'new' coffee shop on the corner isn't the 'old-style' filter coffee and toast with margarine for a quid. Why isn't it like that? - because most people don't want it to be like that anymore. The 'new' coffee shop is fairly similar in range, quality and price with city centre shops - and it's on our doorstep! Also, even better, it isn't owned by Starbucks but belongs and is run by an independent person/s. The demographic of the average 'local' in the area has changed (but I'm not in any way supporting the lack of affordable housing in York here!) so the shops that service the area have changed. I love this area, and I like that the shops have changed (other than the Post Office!) and I look forwards to seeing what other, independent (I hope) businesses will come here. We will, though, get what we want - because if we don't want it, we won't spend our money in it and it will go - I think they call that supply and demand don't they? popsiclesnsticks
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3:15pm Thu 28 Aug 14

MrsPickles says...

Yes, you've hit the nail on the head - An awful lot of people LOVE the area because of the row of shops and the community feel - houses sell overnight because people want to live here - what's wrong with that?
Yes, you've hit the nail on the head - An awful lot of people LOVE the area because of the row of shops and the community feel - houses sell overnight because people want to live here - what's wrong with that? MrsPickles
  • Score: 0

3:54pm Thu 28 Aug 14

andyjon12 says...

I have to say, I feel decidedly uncomfortable when having to walk past the local Bobos on Bishy Road, who sit outside laboriously gazing behind sun glasses at me, whilst sipping from their latte cups. Although, it has to be said social cohesion seems pretty good amongs this lot. Could lessons be learned by other areas in York?
I have to say, I feel decidedly uncomfortable when having to walk past the local Bobos on Bishy Road, who sit outside laboriously gazing behind sun glasses at me, whilst sipping from their latte cups. Although, it has to be said social cohesion seems pretty good amongs this lot. Could lessons be learned by other areas in York? andyjon12
  • Score: -2

7:37pm Fri 29 Aug 14

Monks Boss says...

popsiclesnsticks wrote:
I'm a bit shocked by some of these comments - kind of bitter sounding to me! I've lived just off Bishopthorpe Road for around 15 years and have seen it change. Whilst there are some shops that are aimed at the more well-off types there are still a range of businesses that, I think, cater for all types and pockets. I've even bought one nail, from Pexton's, when I only needed one and I've been assisted by the friendly and knowledgeable staff there with all sorts of things, like mending a clothes airer to save me buying a new one. The chemist's will pick up your prescription, make it up and deliver it to your door. Millie's fruit shop is vastly improved as compared to the previous similar shops when I moved here. McBride's Optician is so much better than a chain store - you get seen really quickly and he always tries to give you discounts so it doesn't end up being more expensive in the long run. Trinacria has fantastic, and not expensive, Italian food and at long last we have somewhere spacious to go for a lunch out. I only went in the 'new' coffee shop a week or so ago and, yes, they don't sell cheap, overbrewed filter coffee - they sell delicious, freshly ground coffee and fantastic carrot muffins and the owner there is, like nearly all the salespeople on the road, really friendly. Thinking about it, I guess that's what makes the difference - that, almost without exception (!) the business owners and salespeople are friendly, enjoy a chat and are not just out to get your money out of you - so if feels like a community. Not every shop is going to appeal to everyone is it - and things that don't change and develop, die. Yes, some shops are more 'upmarket' than they used to be, but then lots of people now have more disposable cash and kids all seem to have mobile phones and satellite tv. So, isn't it just that it depends what you want to spend your dosh on? Personally, I've never enjoyed greasy-smelling cafes, or veg you have to root through to find a non-mouldy potato. The only real disappointment was to lose the Post Office, in my view. Perhaps those who are negative about ''Bishy Road'' should park for an hour (is it still only 20p?) in the car park, stroll around and do your usual mega-supermarket shop on our street and then sit on the bench on the corner with a freshly brewed coffee and a muffin and people-watch. If that doesn't change your mind, I'd suggest a visit to McBrides as it may be that you need new specs or, if that doesn't work, I think there's still a therapist on the street - perhaps they could help you get rid of that 'green-eye' disease you seem to have contracted! Let's celebrate what we have and, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all!
Do you move up north 15 years ago its grim up ere.
[quote][p][bold]popsiclesnsticks[/bold] wrote: I'm a bit shocked by some of these comments - kind of bitter sounding to me! I've lived just off Bishopthorpe Road for around 15 years and have seen it change. Whilst there are some shops that are aimed at the more well-off types there are still a range of businesses that, I think, cater for all types and pockets. I've even bought one nail, from Pexton's, when I only needed one and I've been assisted by the friendly and knowledgeable staff there with all sorts of things, like mending a clothes airer to save me buying a new one. The chemist's will pick up your prescription, make it up and deliver it to your door. Millie's fruit shop is vastly improved as compared to the previous similar shops when I moved here. McBride's Optician is so much better than a chain store - you get seen really quickly and he always tries to give you discounts so it doesn't end up being more expensive in the long run. Trinacria has fantastic, and not expensive, Italian food and at long last we have somewhere spacious to go for a lunch out. I only went in the 'new' coffee shop a week or so ago and, yes, they don't sell cheap, overbrewed filter coffee - they sell delicious, freshly ground coffee and fantastic carrot muffins and the owner there is, like nearly all the salespeople on the road, really friendly. Thinking about it, I guess that's what makes the difference - that, almost without exception (!) the business owners and salespeople are friendly, enjoy a chat and are not just out to get your money out of you - so if feels like a community. Not every shop is going to appeal to everyone is it - and things that don't change and develop, die. Yes, some shops are more 'upmarket' than they used to be, but then lots of people now have more disposable cash and kids all seem to have mobile phones and satellite tv. So, isn't it just that it depends what you want to spend your dosh on? Personally, I've never enjoyed greasy-smelling cafes, or veg you have to root through to find a non-mouldy potato. The only real disappointment was to lose the Post Office, in my view. Perhaps those who are negative about ''Bishy Road'' should park for an hour (is it still only 20p?) in the car park, stroll around and do your usual mega-supermarket shop on our street and then sit on the bench on the corner with a freshly brewed coffee and a muffin and people-watch. If that doesn't change your mind, I'd suggest a visit to McBrides as it may be that you need new specs or, if that doesn't work, I think there's still a therapist on the street - perhaps they could help you get rid of that 'green-eye' disease you seem to have contracted! Let's celebrate what we have and, if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all![/p][/quote]Do you move up north 15 years ago its grim up ere. Monks Boss
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