Traffic to be restricted at York St John University campus

University campus traffic to be restricted

University campus traffic to be restricted

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TRAFFIC is to be barred from most of York St John University’s campus to improve safety for students and staff.

The university says that from the start of the new academic year next month, general traffic and delivery vehicles will no longer be able to go beyond the design and technology car park off Clarence Street.

Vice Chancellor David Fleming said he was delighted by the move, adding: “Staff and students will be able to enjoy walking and cycling though the majority of campus without interference from vehicles, and I am sure that this will contribute to the safety and wellbeing of our students and staff on a daily basis.” He said the university was able to restrict parking and access to part of the site because of the addition of St Anthony’s House to the campus.

Subject to planning permission, improvements would be made to routes in and around the building, which would house estates, domestic services and the porter’s lodge.

The university has applied to City of York Council for planning permission for the change of use of St Anthony’s House, situated in Brook Street, from offices to education, and for the demolition and extension of existing buildings, a re-configured vehicular entrance, a new service vehicle lay-by and new cycle stores.

The application says the building was originally used as offices by council staff but they were relocated across the city to West Offices when it opened as the authority’s new headquarters. A planning, design and access statement, submitted to the council by chartered town planning consultants O’Neill Associates, says that in its decision to dispose of the building, the council had reasoned that it would bring the highest possible financial benefits whilst supporting higher education in the city.

“The proposals will require the demolition of the existing storage building adjacent to the west of St Anthony’s House to create a new access to York St John’s University which will consist of a priority T-junction,” it says.

“This will enable service vehicles to enter the proposed parking area.”

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10:14am Sat 16 Aug 14

gmsgop says...

Well YSJ - I hope this doesn't have the same impact on your surrounding community as your NO Smoking campus- which means that the adjoining social housing area has to endure constant smoking, fag ends, in front of young children, and mounds of fag ends in gutters and on the roads and pavements. This is not at all thoughtful or even responsible- and although you keep saying you will do something about it- like putting a smoking area on campus, nothing has appeared. I know the students union want an onsite facility.

If this means that vans and deliveries will park up on The surrounding key access streets and in the social housing area with narrow roads then I think it is a bad idea. Can you share more detail?

Have you engaged with the Groves Residents Association on this? This is the community that does its best to welcome students --and has on occasions a burden to bear. Please don't make it worse for them.

Gwen Swinburn
Well YSJ - I hope this doesn't have the same impact on your surrounding community as your NO Smoking campus- which means that the adjoining social housing area has to endure constant smoking, fag ends, in front of young children, and mounds of fag ends in gutters and on the roads and pavements. This is not at all thoughtful or even responsible- and although you keep saying you will do something about it- like putting a smoking area on campus, nothing has appeared. I know the students union want an onsite facility. If this means that vans and deliveries will park up on The surrounding key access streets and in the social housing area with narrow roads then I think it is a bad idea. Can you share more detail? Have you engaged with the Groves Residents Association on this? This is the community that does its best to welcome students --and has on occasions a burden to bear. Please don't make it worse for them. Gwen Swinburn gmsgop
  • Score: -37

10:33am Sat 16 Aug 14

nearlyman says...

.......just stop smoking.............
its a fools habit....and by now, with all the info available on the perils well known, why on earth do kids take it up ? Its not cool, its not clever, it is extremely harmful.........and worst of all ......you absolutely stink.
.......just stop smoking............. its a fools habit....and by now, with all the info available on the perils well known, why on earth do kids take it up ? Its not cool, its not clever, it is extremely harmful.........and worst of all ......you absolutely stink. nearlyman
  • Score: 20

10:44am Sat 16 Aug 14

AnotherPointofView says...

gmsgop wrote:
Well YSJ - I hope this doesn't have the same impact on your surrounding community as your NO Smoking campus- which means that the adjoining social housing area has to endure constant smoking, fag ends, in front of young children, and mounds of fag ends in gutters and on the roads and pavements. This is not at all thoughtful or even responsible- and although you keep saying you will do something about it- like putting a smoking area on campus, nothing has appeared. I know the students union want an onsite facility.

If this means that vans and deliveries will park up on The surrounding key access streets and in the social housing area with narrow roads then I think it is a bad idea. Can you share more detail?

Have you engaged with the Groves Residents Association on this? This is the community that does its best to welcome students --and has on occasions a burden to bear. Please don't make it worse for them.

Gwen Swinburn
Agreed, Gwen.

It doesn't make it clear what is being done for delivery vehicles. I don't suppose, if you can't get close the porters will come and take deliveries off you. (Fat chance!)

If this move is to help with safety for staff and students, can the university state what, if any, accidents have taken place on the campus, please?
[quote][p][bold]gmsgop[/bold] wrote: Well YSJ - I hope this doesn't have the same impact on your surrounding community as your NO Smoking campus- which means that the adjoining social housing area has to endure constant smoking, fag ends, in front of young children, and mounds of fag ends in gutters and on the roads and pavements. This is not at all thoughtful or even responsible- and although you keep saying you will do something about it- like putting a smoking area on campus, nothing has appeared. I know the students union want an onsite facility. If this means that vans and deliveries will park up on The surrounding key access streets and in the social housing area with narrow roads then I think it is a bad idea. Can you share more detail? Have you engaged with the Groves Residents Association on this? This is the community that does its best to welcome students --and has on occasions a burden to bear. Please don't make it worse for them. Gwen Swinburn[/p][/quote]Agreed, Gwen. It doesn't make it clear what is being done for delivery vehicles. I don't suppose, if you can't get close the porters will come and take deliveries off you. (Fat chance!) If this move is to help with safety for staff and students, can the university state what, if any, accidents have taken place on the campus, please? AnotherPointofView
  • Score: -19

12:42pm Sat 16 Aug 14

marvell says...

What utter rubbish and unadulterated spin. When I attended St Johns for 3 years traffic freely flowed throughout the whole campus and no-one got hurt. It's called awareness. Stupid nanny state cotton wool approach to students. They've got eyes and ears haven't they?

This is all a smokescreen to ensure they get planning permission. Gwen asks the right questions regarding engagement and consultation with the local community.
What utter rubbish and unadulterated spin. When I attended St Johns for 3 years traffic freely flowed throughout the whole campus and no-one got hurt. It's called awareness. Stupid nanny state cotton wool approach to students. They've got eyes and ears haven't they? This is all a smokescreen to ensure they get planning permission. Gwen asks the right questions regarding engagement and consultation with the local community. marvell
  • Score: -20

1:46pm Sat 16 Aug 14

What's Up, Doc? says...

gmsgop wrote:
Well YSJ - I hope this doesn't have the same impact on your surrounding community as your NO Smoking campus- which means that the adjoining social housing area has to endure constant smoking, fag ends, in front of young children, and mounds of fag ends in gutters and on the roads and pavements. This is not at all thoughtful or even responsible- and although you keep saying you will do something about it- like putting a smoking area on campus, nothing has appeared. I know the students union want an onsite facility.

If this means that vans and deliveries will park up on The surrounding key access streets and in the social housing area with narrow roads then I think it is a bad idea. Can you share more detail?

Have you engaged with the Groves Residents Association on this? This is the community that does its best to welcome students --and has on occasions a burden to bear. Please don't make it worse for them.

Gwen Swinburn
Gwen,

I emailed the vice-chancellor himself to complain about the cigarette ends building up outside the rear gate. Response? Nil.

I know that smokers will throw their ends all over York, it is just when it is concentrated outside one place, such that it is around YSJ.

Now, if only students can be prohibited from built up areas!
[quote][p][bold]gmsgop[/bold] wrote: Well YSJ - I hope this doesn't have the same impact on your surrounding community as your NO Smoking campus- which means that the adjoining social housing area has to endure constant smoking, fag ends, in front of young children, and mounds of fag ends in gutters and on the roads and pavements. This is not at all thoughtful or even responsible- and although you keep saying you will do something about it- like putting a smoking area on campus, nothing has appeared. I know the students union want an onsite facility. If this means that vans and deliveries will park up on The surrounding key access streets and in the social housing area with narrow roads then I think it is a bad idea. Can you share more detail? Have you engaged with the Groves Residents Association on this? This is the community that does its best to welcome students --and has on occasions a burden to bear. Please don't make it worse for them. Gwen Swinburn[/p][/quote]Gwen, I emailed the vice-chancellor himself to complain about the cigarette ends building up outside the rear gate. Response? Nil. I know that smokers will throw their ends all over York, it is just when it is concentrated outside one place, such that it is around YSJ. Now, if only students can be prohibited from built up areas! What's Up, Doc?
  • Score: -36

2:11pm Sat 16 Aug 14

BethFoxhunter96 says...

The university is an institution on private land and is allowed to make any decision it wants about smoking, cars or whatever else. Minorities again trying to stop progress... gmsgop if cars or smokers go onto other private or public land, it is for that landlord or council to deal with. Decisions seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me. I'd certainly put a smoke free uni and car free uni ahead on an application list!

Cancer? No thanks!
The university is an institution on private land and is allowed to make any decision it wants about smoking, cars or whatever else. Minorities again trying to stop progress... gmsgop if cars or smokers go onto other private or public land, it is for that landlord or council to deal with. Decisions seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me. I'd certainly put a smoke free uni and car free uni ahead on an application list! Cancer? No thanks! BethFoxhunter96
  • Score: 36

4:10pm Sat 16 Aug 14

gmsgop says...

BethFoxhunter96 wrote:
The university is an institution on private land and is allowed to make any decision it wants about smoking, cars or whatever else. Minorities again trying to stop progress... gmsgop if cars or smokers go onto other private or public land, it is for that landlord or council to deal with. Decisions seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me. I'd certainly put a smoke free uni and car free uni ahead on an application list!

Cancer? No thanks!
Oh dear oh dear - Lovely me me me attitude- what about the communities that have to put up with the smokers and fag ends... Oh that's alright - leave it to the council and others to clear up - what a wonderful attitude.

I am certainly glad that the York St John student body is rather more considerate of others than you- it would indeed be a problem if your attitude was representative of students today.

Brave decision to dump their problems on others! rather more cowardly when the public purse and social housing tenants have to pay for clean up and suffer the consequences of such selfish behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]BethFoxhunter96[/bold] wrote: The university is an institution on private land and is allowed to make any decision it wants about smoking, cars or whatever else. Minorities again trying to stop progress... gmsgop if cars or smokers go onto other private or public land, it is for that landlord or council to deal with. Decisions seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me. I'd certainly put a smoke free uni and car free uni ahead on an application list! Cancer? No thanks![/p][/quote]Oh dear oh dear - Lovely me me me attitude- what about the communities that have to put up with the smokers and fag ends... Oh that's alright - leave it to the council and others to clear up - what a wonderful attitude. I am certainly glad that the York St John student body is rather more considerate of others than you- it would indeed be a problem if your attitude was representative of students today. Brave decision to dump their problems on others! rather more cowardly when the public purse and social housing tenants have to pay for clean up and suffer the consequences of such selfish behaviour. gmsgop
  • Score: -28

4:10pm Sat 16 Aug 14

gmsgop says...

BethFoxhunter96 wrote:
The university is an institution on private land and is allowed to make any decision it wants about smoking, cars or whatever else. Minorities again trying to stop progress... gmsgop if cars or smokers go onto other private or public land, it is for that landlord or council to deal with. Decisions seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me. I'd certainly put a smoke free uni and car free uni ahead on an application list!

Cancer? No thanks!
Oh dear oh dear - Lovely me me me attitude- what about the communities that have to put up with the smokers and fag ends... Oh that's alright - leave it to the council and others to clear up - what a wonderful attitude.

I am certainly glad that the York St John student body is rather more considerate of others than you- it would indeed be a problem if your attitude was representative of students today.

Brave decision to dump their problems on others! rather more cowardly when the public purse and social housing tenants have to pay for clean up and suffer the consequences of such selfish behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]BethFoxhunter96[/bold] wrote: The university is an institution on private land and is allowed to make any decision it wants about smoking, cars or whatever else. Minorities again trying to stop progress... gmsgop if cars or smokers go onto other private or public land, it is for that landlord or council to deal with. Decisions seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me. I'd certainly put a smoke free uni and car free uni ahead on an application list! Cancer? No thanks![/p][/quote]Oh dear oh dear - Lovely me me me attitude- what about the communities that have to put up with the smokers and fag ends... Oh that's alright - leave it to the council and others to clear up - what a wonderful attitude. I am certainly glad that the York St John student body is rather more considerate of others than you- it would indeed be a problem if your attitude was representative of students today. Brave decision to dump their problems on others! rather more cowardly when the public purse and social housing tenants have to pay for clean up and suffer the consequences of such selfish behaviour. gmsgop
  • Score: -28

4:14pm Sat 16 Aug 14

gmsgop says...

What's Up, Doc? wrote:
gmsgop wrote:
Well YSJ - I hope this doesn't have the same impact on your surrounding community as your NO Smoking campus- which means that the adjoining social housing area has to endure constant smoking, fag ends, in front of young children, and mounds of fag ends in gutters and on the roads and pavements. This is not at all thoughtful or even responsible- and although you keep saying you will do something about it- like putting a smoking area on campus, nothing has appeared. I know the students union want an onsite facility.

If this means that vans and deliveries will park up on The surrounding key access streets and in the social housing area with narrow roads then I think it is a bad idea. Can you share more detail?

Have you engaged with the Groves Residents Association on this? This is the community that does its best to welcome students --and has on occasions a burden to bear. Please don't make it worse for them.

Gwen Swinburn
Gwen,

I emailed the vice-chancellor himself to complain about the cigarette ends building up outside the rear gate. Response? Nil.

I know that smokers will throw their ends all over York, it is just when it is concentrated outside one place, such that it is around YSJ.

Now, if only students can be prohibited from built up areas!
Yes, the Groves Association had meetings with the Student Union and top staff at the uni- we thought that a facility was to be constructed - but no sign of it... Meanwhile the fag ends accumulate.

This is by no means an anti student rant... It is lovely having most of them in our community and in the city- they want an on site facility as much as we do!:)
[quote][p][bold]What's Up, Doc?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gmsgop[/bold] wrote: Well YSJ - I hope this doesn't have the same impact on your surrounding community as your NO Smoking campus- which means that the adjoining social housing area has to endure constant smoking, fag ends, in front of young children, and mounds of fag ends in gutters and on the roads and pavements. This is not at all thoughtful or even responsible- and although you keep saying you will do something about it- like putting a smoking area on campus, nothing has appeared. I know the students union want an onsite facility. If this means that vans and deliveries will park up on The surrounding key access streets and in the social housing area with narrow roads then I think it is a bad idea. Can you share more detail? Have you engaged with the Groves Residents Association on this? This is the community that does its best to welcome students --and has on occasions a burden to bear. Please don't make it worse for them. Gwen Swinburn[/p][/quote]Gwen, I emailed the vice-chancellor himself to complain about the cigarette ends building up outside the rear gate. Response? Nil. I know that smokers will throw their ends all over York, it is just when it is concentrated outside one place, such that it is around YSJ. Now, if only students can be prohibited from built up areas![/p][/quote]Yes, the Groves Association had meetings with the Student Union and top staff at the uni- we thought that a facility was to be constructed - but no sign of it... Meanwhile the fag ends accumulate. This is by no means an anti student rant... It is lovely having most of them in our community and in the city- they want an on site facility as much as we do!:) gmsgop
  • Score: -24

6:31pm Sat 16 Aug 14

pedalling paul says...

marvell wrote:
What utter rubbish and unadulterated spin. When I attended St Johns for 3 years traffic freely flowed throughout the whole campus and no-one got hurt. It's called awareness. Stupid nanny state cotton wool approach to students. They've got eyes and ears haven't they?

This is all a smokescreen to ensure they get planning permission. Gwen asks the right questions regarding engagement and consultation with the local community.
Oh dearie me.......another "free flowing traffic" wallah. Why should that be the ultimate objective, and so often at the expense of and risk to others
[quote][p][bold]marvell[/bold] wrote: What utter rubbish and unadulterated spin. When I attended St Johns for 3 years traffic freely flowed throughout the whole campus and no-one got hurt. It's called awareness. Stupid nanny state cotton wool approach to students. They've got eyes and ears haven't they? This is all a smokescreen to ensure they get planning permission. Gwen asks the right questions regarding engagement and consultation with the local community.[/p][/quote]Oh dearie me.......another "free flowing traffic" wallah. Why should that be the ultimate objective, and so often at the expense of and risk to others pedalling paul
  • Score: 30

7:29pm Sat 16 Aug 14

York Castle says...

"TRAFFIC is to be barred from most of York St John University’s campus to improve safety for students and staff."

How do the students and staff manage to cope with the unsafe traffic areas outside of the campus? Do they become pedestrian casualties when they walk the streets of York town centre?
"TRAFFIC is to be barred from most of York St John University’s campus to improve safety for students and staff." How do the students and staff manage to cope with the unsafe traffic areas outside of the campus? Do they become pedestrian casualties when they walk the streets of York town centre? York Castle
  • Score: -5

8:50pm Sat 16 Aug 14

notpedallingpaul says...

BethFoxhunter96 wrote:
The university is an institution on private land and is allowed to make any decision it wants about smoking, cars or whatever else. Minorities again trying to stop progress... gmsgop if cars or smokers go onto other private or public land, it is for that landlord or council to deal with. Decisions seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me. I'd certainly put a smoke free uni and car free uni ahead on an application list!

Cancer? No thanks!
..............Decisi
ons seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me...............

Complete and utter selfish attitude on behalf of YSJ, let's ban smoking and cars from the campus.
But where are all the cars and smokers going to go Vice Chancellor? Not really bothered as long as they are off campus!!
So that's progress Beth style is it, or is it that your just a councilor posing as a young girl eh?
At least you've got one fan but be careful he has two names! But thinks that we don't know....... Evening Mr Hepworth/pedalling paul.
[quote][p][bold]BethFoxhunter96[/bold] wrote: The university is an institution on private land and is allowed to make any decision it wants about smoking, cars or whatever else. Minorities again trying to stop progress... gmsgop if cars or smokers go onto other private or public land, it is for that landlord or council to deal with. Decisions seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me. I'd certainly put a smoke free uni and car free uni ahead on an application list! Cancer? No thanks![/p][/quote]..............Decisi ons seem to be very good and brave for YSJ and I'm sure will impact on decisions of where to apply to young students like me............... Complete and utter selfish attitude on behalf of YSJ, let's ban smoking and cars from the campus. But where are all the cars and smokers going to go Vice Chancellor? Not really bothered as long as they are off campus!! So that's progress Beth style is it, or is it that your just a councilor posing as a young girl eh? At least you've got one fan but be careful he has two names! But thinks that we don't know....... Evening Mr Hepworth/pedalling paul. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 316

10:45am Sun 17 Aug 14

Jonlogical says...

If the University of York is anything to go by. I have experienced students walking in front of cars usually whilst concentrating (head down,) on a mobile phone.
Could a Tufty club be the answer.
If the University of York is anything to go by. I have experienced students walking in front of cars usually whilst concentrating (head down,) on a mobile phone. Could a Tufty club be the answer. Jonlogical
  • Score: 20

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