Shop owner in Twitter row with council leader

Shop owner in Twitter row with council leader

Hanus Wolf: Turnover

James Alexander: Projects

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A CITY centre businessman has hit out at council leader James Alexander in an escalating row on twitter.

Both council leader James Alexander and shop owner Hanus Wolf, of Burgin's Perfumery in Coney Street are prolific twitter users, and have become embroiled in a row about some of Cllr Alexander's most controversial policies.

Mr Wolf has been an outspoken critic of both the Lendal Bridge trial closure and the out of town Vangarde shopping development at Monks Cross, which he said has knocked tens of thousands of pounds off his turnover. Mr Wolf has said his forthright comments about Cllr Alexander were prompted by his worry for his business.

Mr Wold said that while the Tour de France is good for York in the long term it did not bring the visitor numbers that were promised in the city centre.

But Cllr Alexander hit back on twitter and said Mr Wolf's complaints bring the city and his business down, saying he wouldn't shop at Burgin's because of Mr Wolf's negative attitude.

Mr Wolf has written to The Press accusing Cllr Alexander of trying to rubbish his critics. He wrote: "Now, that I have dared to raise my head above the parapet and voice my concerns to him, he, like a spoilt child with a tantrum, has thrown his toys out of the pram and berated the very business that has been in York since 1880 and pays towards his salary.

"Councillor Alexander is a disgrace who has shamed himself, and more importantly by his outburst, he has shamed the people of York, whom he represents."

But according to the council leader, projects pioneered by his Labour council administration have brought new business and trade to York, while Mr Wolf has resorted to insulting and offensive tweets about the council leader.

Cllr Alexander added: “The owner of Burgins has recently described himself as a ‘like-minded Tory’ on Twitter and asked prominent local Conservatives for help on how to place this story in The Press.

"He sent me offensive messages saying I am ‘unintelligent’, know ‘sweet FA’ and that I ‘don’t give a toss’. I politely explained he talks down his own business when talking down York. This was evident when he complained to Minster FM that Coney Street was empty when the Tour de France came and his business suffered.

“I have never said to anyone that they should not shop at his establishment. I have however said I would not shop there because of the owner’s attitude.”

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11:58am Tue 29 Jul 14

York2000 says...

Zzzzzzzzzzzz
Zzzzzzzzzzzz York2000
  • Score: -2

12:03pm Tue 29 Jul 14

anth!! says...

Even well before the lendal bridge closure or before the new vangarde shopping development opened everytime I walked by the perfume shop people were hardly queuing to go in.
Even well before the lendal bridge closure or before the new vangarde shopping development opened everytime I walked by the perfume shop people were hardly queuing to go in. anth!!
  • Score: 44

12:04pm Tue 29 Jul 14

CaroleBaines says...

Childish behaviour by both of them. As for Burgins, way too expensive for me!
Childish behaviour by both of them. As for Burgins, way too expensive for me! CaroleBaines
  • Score: 39

12:14pm Tue 29 Jul 14

wildthing666 says...

Every store has a selection of perfumes that are way cheaper than burgins, Burgin's his history
Every store has a selection of perfumes that are way cheaper than burgins, Burgin's his history wildthing666
  • Score: 30

12:16pm Tue 29 Jul 14

The Great Buda says...

Just what this City needs, another self-serving, self-publicising trader........
Just what this City needs, another self-serving, self-publicising trader........ The Great Buda
  • Score: 29

12:19pm Tue 29 Jul 14

bolero says...

Stick to twitter please boys and give us a rest. Prices might have something to do with it. Bad publicity.
Stick to twitter please boys and give us a rest. Prices might have something to do with it. Bad publicity. bolero
  • Score: 37

12:47pm Tue 29 Jul 14

BL2 says...

It's hardly the first time a councillor has been accused of trying to rubbish or bullying their critics. Galloway and Vassie are 2 that spring to mind!
It's hardly the first time a councillor has been accused of trying to rubbish or bullying their critics. Galloway and Vassie are 2 that spring to mind! BL2
  • Score: 16

12:48pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Y.I.P. says...

Don't waste your time on twitter Bud stand for council!!!!!!! Join Y.I.P
Don't waste your time on twitter Bud stand for council!!!!!!! Join Y.I.P Y.I.P.
  • Score: 10

1:28pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Dan Atkinson says...

Public servants should hold themselves to a higher standard when communicating with constituents and members of the general public, which I appreciate isn't always easy when the vast majority of them hate you.

And as for Hanus Wolf... Well, clearly if he spent less time moaning about lack of trade and more time reducing his prices to match the market, he wouldn't have any reason to complain about lack of business.
Public servants should hold themselves to a higher standard when communicating with constituents and members of the general public, which I appreciate isn't always easy when the vast majority of them hate you. And as for Hanus Wolf... Well, clearly if he spent less time moaning about lack of trade and more time reducing his prices to match the market, he wouldn't have any reason to complain about lack of business. Dan Atkinson
  • Score: 72

1:28pm Tue 29 Jul 14

nearlyman says...

No one does customer service as well as Burgins.........and i am sure that great retailing magnate jimmy alexander will not extend his vast experience to customer service at the council.
No one does customer service as well as Burgins.........and i am sure that great retailing magnate jimmy alexander will not extend his vast experience to customer service at the council. nearlyman
  • Score: 10

1:44pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Zetkin says...

I'll get to work preparing a press release for the next time a councillor on Twitter says something I disagree with.
I'll get to work preparing a press release for the next time a councillor on Twitter says something I disagree with. Zetkin
  • Score: 23

1:52pm Tue 29 Jul 14

nearlyman says...

BL2 wrote:
It's hardly the first time a councillor has been accused of trying to rubbish or bullying their critics. Galloway and Vassie are 2 that spring to mind!
And look what became of them !
[quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: It's hardly the first time a councillor has been accused of trying to rubbish or bullying their critics. Galloway and Vassie are 2 that spring to mind![/p][/quote]And look what became of them ! nearlyman
  • Score: 10

3:04pm Tue 29 Jul 14

CommonSense!! says...

Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets. CommonSense!!
  • Score: -27

3:20pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Meirion M says...

A pair of self-publicists, I every I saw one.
One is a businessman, the other an elected local councillor.
What a pair of prats!
Alexander, roll on May 2015 when we will see the last of your stupidity.
A pair of self-publicists, I every I saw one. One is a businessman, the other an elected local councillor. What a pair of prats! Alexander, roll on May 2015 when we will see the last of your stupidity. Meirion M
  • Score: 34

3:44pm Tue 29 Jul 14

CaroleBaines says...

CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?!
[quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?! CaroleBaines
  • Score: 44

3:48pm Tue 29 Jul 14

CommonSense!! says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?!
Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service.

You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience.
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?![/p][/quote]Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service. You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience. CommonSense!!
  • Score: -14

3:57pm Tue 29 Jul 14

non pedalling pete says...

James Alexander will not shop there because of the owners attitude.
I will not vote for Labour in next year's local elections because of James Alexanders attitude, Dave Merretts attitude Tracey simply wrongs attitude.
I could carry on but I will stop there.
James Alexander will not shop there because of the owners attitude. I will not vote for Labour in next year's local elections because of James Alexanders attitude, Dave Merretts attitude Tracey simply wrongs attitude. I could carry on but I will stop there. non pedalling pete
  • Score: 37

4:00pm Tue 29 Jul 14

rat scabies says...

I shop in Burgin's a few times a year, can't fault the shop for customer service or quality of the goods,also they have a few bargains in the window, as for Alexanders attitude over all this, I find it quite disgraceful coming from a public employee who is supposed to represent the citizens and traders! His whole attitude over this affair stinks!
I shop in Burgin's a few times a year, can't fault the shop for customer service or quality of the goods,also they have a few bargains in the window, as for Alexanders attitude over all this, I find it quite disgraceful coming from a public employee who is supposed to represent the citizens and traders! His whole attitude over this affair stinks! rat scabies
  • Score: 17

4:01pm Tue 29 Jul 14

CaroleBaines says...

CommonSense!! wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?!
Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service.

You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience.
This debate is not about you, however, it is about whether Mr Wolf is suffering lack of trade due to a high price structure, or the closure of Lendal Bridge. You may prefer to walk past several reasonably priced shops to be seen in somewhere 'up market' but most of us do not do that. As someone states above, the store does not seem busy now the bridge is open. One would infer from that that his trade problems do not stem from the bridge closure.

As for me, as much as that is relevant, I am aware that quality comes at a price, I just do not see the point in spending more on the same product just to flaunt my shopping bag label to my friends But each to their own, as you say, your choice, dear.
[quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?![/p][/quote]Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service. You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience.[/p][/quote]This debate is not about you, however, it is about whether Mr Wolf is suffering lack of trade due to a high price structure, or the closure of Lendal Bridge. You may prefer to walk past several reasonably priced shops to be seen in somewhere 'up market' but most of us do not do that. As someone states above, the store does not seem busy now the bridge is open. One would infer from that that his trade problems do not stem from the bridge closure. As for me, as much as that is relevant, I am aware that quality comes at a price, I just do not see the point in spending more on the same product just to flaunt my shopping bag label to my friends But each to their own, as you say, your choice, dear. CaroleBaines
  • Score: 27

4:10pm Tue 29 Jul 14

York2000 says...

Why don't we all just grow up a bit... And the Press stop with the poorly written clickbait.
Why don't we all just grow up a bit... And the Press stop with the poorly written clickbait. York2000
  • Score: 16

4:19pm Tue 29 Jul 14

bolero says...

CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
I don't know whether this is a male speaking here but all I can say is; if you want to spend a ridiculous amount of money just to walk around smelling like a lady's knicker draw well that's up to you.
[quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]I don't know whether this is a male speaking here but all I can say is; if you want to spend a ridiculous amount of money just to walk around smelling like a lady's knicker draw well that's up to you. bolero
  • Score: 2

4:20pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Minstermummy says...

Have shopped there a few times at Christmas and found their helpfulness and customer service to be great .
Maybe some products can be found cheaper but so can a lot if things in other stores if you shop around .
The issue here is Cllr Alexander resorting to childish tit for tat comments just because he was criticised by a trader who was demonstrating his democratic right to criticise to !
he should really show more respect for the shop owner and just accept his words .. Doesn't have to agree with him & certainly not argue back at him .
Alexander and his gang are so up their own arse I won't be voting Labour again
Have shopped there a few times at Christmas and found their helpfulness and customer service to be great . Maybe some products can be found cheaper but so can a lot if things in other stores if you shop around . The issue here is Cllr Alexander resorting to childish tit for tat comments just because he was criticised by a trader who was demonstrating his democratic right to criticise to ! he should really show more respect for the shop owner and just accept his words .. Doesn't have to agree with him & certainly not argue back at him . Alexander and his gang are so up their own arse I won't be voting Labour again Minstermummy
  • Score: 18

4:25pm Tue 29 Jul 14

the andrew says...

CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
Post of the day.
[quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]Post of the day. the andrew
  • Score: -1

4:32pm Tue 29 Jul 14

mjgyork says...

An over priced perfume shop closes? Does any body care?
An over priced perfume shop closes? Does any body care? mjgyork
  • Score: 6

4:41pm Tue 29 Jul 14

CommonSense!! says...

bolero wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
I don't know whether this is a male speaking here but all I can say is; if you want to spend a ridiculous amount of money just to walk around smelling like a lady's knicker draw well that's up to you.
Of course you are right, it is far better to wander (presumably shirtless to show off one's pasty white thin physique) smelling like a camel's armpit.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]I don't know whether this is a male speaking here but all I can say is; if you want to spend a ridiculous amount of money just to walk around smelling like a lady's knicker draw well that's up to you.[/p][/quote]Of course you are right, it is far better to wander (presumably shirtless to show off one's pasty white thin physique) smelling like a camel's armpit. CommonSense!!
  • Score: -12

5:10pm Tue 29 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

Where does James buy his perfume.....?
Where does James buy his perfume.....? pedalling paul
  • Score: -24

5:20pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Grumpy Old Man says...

nearlyman wrote:
No one does customer service as well as Burgins.........and i am sure that great retailing magnate jimmy alexander will not extend his vast experience to customer service at the council.
Mr Burgin's complaint is that he has no customers. So what good is his customer service? The simple facts, as every female I asked confirms, is that Burgins is living in the 1930s and if he wants to do better business he should wise up and CUT HIS PRICES!
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: No one does customer service as well as Burgins.........and i am sure that great retailing magnate jimmy alexander will not extend his vast experience to customer service at the council.[/p][/quote]Mr Burgin's complaint is that he has no customers. So what good is his customer service? The simple facts, as every female I asked confirms, is that Burgins is living in the 1930s and if he wants to do better business he should wise up and CUT HIS PRICES! Grumpy Old Man
  • Score: 17

5:24pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Alf Garnett says...

This is news ?
This is news ? Alf Garnett
  • Score: 10

5:27pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Dr Brian says...

I saw the twitter feed and it was our arrogant Council Leader Alexander who started the insults - Burgin man replied. End of day Council Leader should be promoting York businesses not knocking them - But rest assured Burgins will be there longer than Alexander, just over 9 months till he is gone now :)
I saw the twitter feed and it was our arrogant Council Leader Alexander who started the insults - Burgin man replied. End of day Council Leader should be promoting York businesses not knocking them - But rest assured Burgins will be there longer than Alexander, just over 9 months till he is gone now :) Dr Brian
  • Score: 21

5:28pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Alf Garnett says...

the andrew wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
Post of the day.
Let them eat high fat, sugar, trans fats, salt, colouring, monosodium glutamate-rich cake.
[quote][p][bold]the andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]Post of the day.[/p][/quote]Let them eat high fat, sugar, trans fats, salt, colouring, monosodium glutamate-rich cake. Alf Garnett
  • Score: -10

5:28pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Alf Garnett says...

the andrew wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
Post of the day.
Let them eat high fat, sugar, trans fats, salt, colouring, monosodium glutamate-rich cake.
[quote][p][bold]the andrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]Post of the day.[/p][/quote]Let them eat high fat, sugar, trans fats, salt, colouring, monosodium glutamate-rich cake. Alf Garnett
  • Score: -6

5:37pm Tue 29 Jul 14

nowthen says...

In the above article James Alexander says : "He sent me offensive messages saying I am ‘unintelligent’, know ‘sweet FA’ and that I ‘don’t give a toss’. Anyone who has seen the actual tweet will know that James is up to his old tricks twisting things round to suit his petty agenda ; what Mr Burgin actually said was " you know sweet FA about business " ... which I think was a quite truthful opinion.
In the above article James Alexander says : "He sent me offensive messages saying I am ‘unintelligent’, know ‘sweet FA’ and that I ‘don’t give a toss’. Anyone who has seen the actual tweet will know that James is up to his old tricks twisting things round to suit his petty agenda ; what Mr Burgin actually said was " you know sweet FA about business " ... which I think was a quite truthful opinion. nowthen
  • Score: 30

5:44pm Tue 29 Jul 14

non pedalling pete says...

non pedalling pete wrote:
James Alexander will not shop there because of the owners attitude.
I will not vote for Labour in next year's local elections because of James Alexanders attitude, Dave Merretts attitude Tracey simply wrongs attitude.
I could carry on but I will stop there.
Sorry forgot to mention the peddling prat who a few weeks ago posted on here that he hoped my house burnt down.
[quote][p][bold]non pedalling pete[/bold] wrote: James Alexander will not shop there because of the owners attitude. I will not vote for Labour in next year's local elections because of James Alexanders attitude, Dave Merretts attitude Tracey simply wrongs attitude. I could carry on but I will stop there.[/p][/quote]Sorry forgot to mention the peddling prat who a few weeks ago posted on here that he hoped my house burnt down. non pedalling pete
  • Score: 12

5:59pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Tug job says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Where does James buy his perfume.....?
Threshers?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Where does James buy his perfume.....?[/p][/quote]Threshers? Tug job
  • Score: 7

6:06pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Ichabod76 says...

York2000 wrote:
Why don't we all just grow up a bit... And the Press stop with the poorly written clickbait.
Why don't you stop complaining about peoples right to comment !

If you don't like others point of view why not leave and never come back ?
Oh yeah you tried that but can't help yourself, can you ?
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: Why don't we all just grow up a bit... And the Press stop with the poorly written clickbait.[/p][/quote]Why don't you stop complaining about peoples right to comment ! If you don't like others point of view why not leave and never come back ? Oh yeah you tried that but can't help yourself, can you ? Ichabod76
  • Score: -5

6:19pm Tue 29 Jul 14

RingoStarr says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Where does James buy his perfume.....?
You MUST ask him and tell us! We all await your reply with 'glee and trepidation'
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Where does James buy his perfume.....?[/p][/quote]You MUST ask him and tell us! We all await your reply with 'glee and trepidation' RingoStarr
  • Score: -1

6:28pm Tue 29 Jul 14

acomblass says...

nowthen wrote:
In the above article James Alexander says : "He sent me offensive messages saying I am ‘unintelligent’, know ‘sweet FA’ and that I ‘don’t give a toss’. Anyone who has seen the actual tweet will know that James is up to his old tricks twisting things round to suit his petty agenda ; what Mr Burgin actually said was " you know sweet FA about business " ... which I think was a quite truthful opinion.
Yet again James Alexander shows why he is totally unfit to be Leader of the Council. A true Leader would not resort to rude twitter exchanges but would invite Mr Wolf to meet him to discuss his concerns. It is not the first time he has engaged in an unedifying spat with a trader,nor is he averse to calling other people names and asking the media to publish his wild press releases.
However I suspect that the reason for his behaviour will be because there will be one or two unfavourable Council reports about to become public - it all follows a pattern if anyone cares to study his childish behaviour.
[quote][p][bold]nowthen[/bold] wrote: In the above article James Alexander says : "He sent me offensive messages saying I am ‘unintelligent’, know ‘sweet FA’ and that I ‘don’t give a toss’. Anyone who has seen the actual tweet will know that James is up to his old tricks twisting things round to suit his petty agenda ; what Mr Burgin actually said was " you know sweet FA about business " ... which I think was a quite truthful opinion.[/p][/quote]Yet again James Alexander shows why he is totally unfit to be Leader of the Council. A true Leader would not resort to rude twitter exchanges but would invite Mr Wolf to meet him to discuss his concerns. It is not the first time he has engaged in an unedifying spat with a trader,nor is he averse to calling other people names and asking the media to publish his wild press releases. However I suspect that the reason for his behaviour will be because there will be one or two unfavourable Council reports about to become public - it all follows a pattern if anyone cares to study his childish behaviour. acomblass
  • Score: 17

6:50pm Tue 29 Jul 14

acomblass says...

And my prediction comes true!
Free WiFi in York City Centre turns out not to be free in a BBC expose!
BBC News 26 July
And my prediction comes true! Free WiFi in York City Centre turns out not to be free in a BBC expose! BBC News 26 July acomblass
  • Score: 11

6:51pm Tue 29 Jul 14

York2000 says...

Ichabod76

It's worth commenting to wind up the right wingers who've hijacked the comments threads. Works too. If you don't agree with their agenda, they try and bully you out of the comments. . .
Ichabod76 It's worth commenting to wind up the right wingers who've hijacked the comments threads. Works too. If you don't agree with their agenda, they try and bully you out of the comments. . . York2000
  • Score: 16

7:11pm Tue 29 Jul 14

malonemalone says...

Why would anyone want to shop at Burgins beats me anyway..............
.....and I am not great fan of Mr Alexander
Why would anyone want to shop at Burgins beats me anyway.............. .....and I am not great fan of Mr Alexander malonemalone
  • Score: 7

7:16pm Tue 29 Jul 14

malonemalone says...

CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
It s a dull store with no appeal whatsoever and if the product is available from another retailer and it's cheaper then so the better.
[quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]It s a dull store with no appeal whatsoever and if the product is available from another retailer and it's cheaper then so the better. malonemalone
  • Score: 5

7:19pm Tue 29 Jul 14

HoofHearteds says...

Mr Wolfs Anus appears an angry man. I suggest he off loads some of his mammon and enjoys the simpler side of life
Mr Wolfs Anus appears an angry man. I suggest he off loads some of his mammon and enjoys the simpler side of life HoofHearteds
  • Score: -21

7:20pm Tue 29 Jul 14

julia brica says...

This shows Alexander as he is . A person who isn't fit to run a college tea bar.
(No offence to anyone running a college tea bar.) Let alone run our council.
Not for long now though.
It will be interesting to see where his arrogance deposits him.
This shows Alexander as he is . A person who isn't fit to run a college tea bar. (No offence to anyone running a college tea bar.) Let alone run our council. Not for long now though. It will be interesting to see where his arrogance deposits him. julia brica
  • Score: 15

7:20pm Tue 29 Jul 14

HoofHearteds says...

Woops! *Hanus Wolf*
Woops! *Hanus Wolf* HoofHearteds
  • Score: -3

8:00pm Tue 29 Jul 14

CaroleBaines says...

julia brica wrote:
This shows Alexander as he is . A person who isn't fit to run a college tea bar.
(No offence to anyone running a college tea bar.) Let alone run our council.
Not for long now though.
It will be interesting to see where his arrogance deposits him.
:-)
[quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: This shows Alexander as he is . A person who isn't fit to run a college tea bar. (No offence to anyone running a college tea bar.) Let alone run our council. Not for long now though. It will be interesting to see where his arrogance deposits him.[/p][/quote]:-) CaroleBaines
  • Score: 5

10:12pm Tue 29 Jul 14

rat scabies says...

HoofHearteds wrote:
Mr Wolfs Anus appears an angry man. I suggest he off loads some of his mammon and enjoys the simpler side of life
by eck! all the labour councillors are coming on here and showing their true colours today, you lot are a disgusting breed!
[quote][p][bold]HoofHearteds[/bold] wrote: Mr Wolfs Anus appears an angry man. I suggest he off loads some of his mammon and enjoys the simpler side of life[/p][/quote]by eck! all the labour councillors are coming on here and showing their true colours today, you lot are a disgusting breed! rat scabies
  • Score: 4

10:42pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Frodo Baggins says...

I see Galloway and friends are out in force tonight?
I see Galloway and friends are out in force tonight? Frodo Baggins
  • Score: 10

3:24am Wed 30 Jul 14

Magicman! says...

REALLY?? Has the Press honestly thought that *an online argument* was newsworthy material?? Why don't I send in my next Facebook status update and we''ll see if that makes the front page.

Jesus Christ.
REALLY?? Has the Press honestly thought that *an online argument* was newsworthy material?? Why don't I send in my next Facebook status update and we''ll see if that makes the front page. Jesus Christ. Magicman!
  • Score: 13

6:08am Wed 30 Jul 14

sniper 9964 says...

Strange how The Press allows comments on one story but not on other's. Slso who proof read this before it went to press ?
Is it Mr Wolf or Mr Wold ?
The press gets it WRONG again
Strange how The Press allows comments on one story but not on other's. Slso who proof read this before it went to press ? Is it Mr Wolf or Mr Wold ? The press gets it WRONG again sniper 9964
  • Score: 5

6:45am Wed 30 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

Would I end up smelling of roses if I visited a perfume shop?
Would I end up smelling of roses if I visited a perfume shop? pedalling paul
  • Score: -6

7:26am Wed 30 Jul 14

Tug job says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Would I end up smelling of roses if I visited a perfume shop?
No, Paul, you would continue to reek of stale cider.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Would I end up smelling of roses if I visited a perfume shop?[/p][/quote]No, Paul, you would continue to reek of stale cider. Tug job
  • Score: 8

7:55am Wed 30 Jul 14

inthesticks says...

rat scabies wrote:
HoofHearteds wrote:
Mr Wolfs Anus appears an angry man. I suggest he off loads some of his mammon and enjoys the simpler side of life
by eck! all the labour councillors are coming on here and showing their true colours today, you lot are a disgusting breed!
She thinks she`s funny.
Tell you what will be funny, next local elections.
Then we will be laughing at you HH.
[quote][p][bold]rat scabies[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HoofHearteds[/bold] wrote: Mr Wolfs Anus appears an angry man. I suggest he off loads some of his mammon and enjoys the simpler side of life[/p][/quote]by eck! all the labour councillors are coming on here and showing their true colours today, you lot are a disgusting breed![/p][/quote]She thinks she`s funny. Tell you what will be funny, next local elections. Then we will be laughing at you HH. inthesticks
  • Score: -4

8:04am Wed 30 Jul 14

PlanetTea says...

Mr Wold sounds like a rude and grumpy man with an ulterior motive
Mr Wold sounds like a rude and grumpy man with an ulterior motive PlanetTea
  • Score: 4

8:08am Wed 30 Jul 14

PlanetTea says...

CommonSense!! wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?!
Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service.

You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience.
TROLL
[quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?![/p][/quote]Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service. You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience.[/p][/quote]TROLL PlanetTea
  • Score: -4

8:38am Wed 30 Jul 14

the-e-man says...

Alf Garnett wrote:
This is news ?
No, this article in itself is not news worthy but what it does display is that the Leader of this Council of Clowns , one James Alexander, is not fit for purpose.
He should not become involved in a public spat with a local businessman but this just shows what poor judgement he has and the standards he works to.
[quote][p][bold]Alf Garnett[/bold] wrote: This is news ?[/p][/quote]No, this article in itself is not news worthy but what it does display is that the Leader of this Council of Clowns , one James Alexander, is not fit for purpose. He should not become involved in a public spat with a local businessman but this just shows what poor judgement he has and the standards he works to. the-e-man
  • Score: 1

9:37am Wed 30 Jul 14

CommonSense!! says...

PlanetTea wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?!
Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service.

You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience.
TROLL
How does expressing a different opinion to yours make me a troll? You imbecile.
[quote][p][bold]PlanetTea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?![/p][/quote]Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service. You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience.[/p][/quote]TROLL[/p][/quote]How does expressing a different opinion to yours make me a troll? You imbecile. CommonSense!!
  • Score: -6

10:14am Wed 30 Jul 14

bolero says...

the-e-man wrote:
Alf Garnett wrote:
This is news ?
No, this article in itself is not news worthy but what it does display is that the Leader of this Council of Clowns , one James Alexander, is not fit for purpose.
He should not become involved in a public spat with a local businessman but this just shows what poor judgement he has and the standards he works to.
What standards?
[quote][p][bold]the-e-man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Alf Garnett[/bold] wrote: This is news ?[/p][/quote]No, this article in itself is not news worthy but what it does display is that the Leader of this Council of Clowns , one James Alexander, is not fit for purpose. He should not become involved in a public spat with a local businessman but this just shows what poor judgement he has and the standards he works to.[/p][/quote]What standards? bolero
  • Score: 0

11:23am Wed 30 Jul 14

Blythespirit says...

PlanetTea wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
CaroleBaines wrote:
CommonSense!! wrote:
Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop.

Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.
You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?!
Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service.

You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience.
TROLL
Don't fall for it PlanetTea. Commonsense!! loves a good wind-up and getting people hot under the collar. Any response panders to Commonsense!!'s attention seeking. Better off ignored...
[quote][p][bold]PlanetTea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CommonSense!![/bold] wrote: Those suggesting the shop is too expensive are really saying they are too cheap to shop there, a reflection more on their own wealth (or lack thereof) than the pricing policy of the shop. Stick to the cheap places and let those of us with a few quid enjoy shopping in the more exclusive independents without being bothered by the penniless with their champagne tastes and lemonade pockets.[/p][/quote]You seek out the more expensive stores to buy goods at inflated prices? Why? Is your username an attempt at irony?![/p][/quote]Why? Because a) I have the money to do so without caring and b) there is more to life than saving a few pence at the expense of service. You may prefer cheap places, that is your prerogative and long may we have such choices, the cheapest places to buy things are very rarely the best in my experience.[/p][/quote]TROLL[/p][/quote]Don't fall for it PlanetTea. Commonsense!! loves a good wind-up and getting people hot under the collar. Any response panders to Commonsense!!'s attention seeking. Better off ignored... Blythespirit
  • Score: 2

4:18pm Wed 30 Jul 14

thinkingoutsidethebox says...

I am sure Mr Wolf will not be concerned regarding the lack of JA as a customer..........th
ough he may have a "special perfume" lined up for him!! A beautiful shop, vestiges of Old York and a little treasure. Not everyone earns a good salary (or can keep their job when they are clearly unfit for purpose) but for many it's the place to go for special treats (probably the kind of folk who don't get blathered and cause a nuisance when the sun shines). Mr Wolf has rightly expressed his concerns and has been met with the dismissive arrogance associated with 'The Leader' whose record in this city is regarded so badly by so many.
I am sure Mr Wolf will not be concerned regarding the lack of JA as a customer..........th ough he may have a "special perfume" lined up for him!! A beautiful shop, vestiges of Old York and a little treasure. Not everyone earns a good salary (or can keep their job when they are clearly unfit for purpose) but for many it's the place to go for special treats (probably the kind of folk who don't get blathered and cause a nuisance when the sun shines). Mr Wolf has rightly expressed his concerns and has been met with the dismissive arrogance associated with 'The Leader' whose record in this city is regarded so badly by so many. thinkingoutsidethebox
  • Score: 0

4:30pm Wed 30 Jul 14

notpedallingpaul says...

Magicman! wrote:
REALLY?? Has the Press honestly thought that *an online argument* was newsworthy material?? Why don't I send in my next Facebook status update and we''ll see if that makes the front page.

Jesus Christ.
Yours and Tug Job are the two best ones, LOL

pedalling paul wrote: Would I end up smelling of roses if I visited a perfume shop?

No, Paul, you would continue to reek of stale cider.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: REALLY?? Has the Press honestly thought that *an online argument* was newsworthy material?? Why don't I send in my next Facebook status update and we''ll see if that makes the front page. Jesus Christ.[/p][/quote]Yours and Tug Job are the two best ones, LOL pedalling paul wrote: Would I end up smelling of roses if I visited a perfume shop? No, Paul, you would continue to reek of stale cider. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: 3

4:47pm Wed 30 Jul 14

Average Cynic says...

Hanus Wolf is a fantastic name. That is all.
Hanus Wolf is a fantastic name. That is all. Average Cynic
  • Score: 2

9:11am Sun 3 Aug 14

spragger says...

Aww come on be fair
Alexander is a soft target

He is a typical incompetent, money waster, the likes of which populate many of our fine cities
Lay off him, he has an impediment ..
Aww come on be fair Alexander is a soft target He is a typical incompetent, money waster, the likes of which populate many of our fine cities Lay off him, he has an impediment .. spragger
  • Score: -2

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