Election boundary shake-up on the way for York

Election boundary shake-up on the way for York

Election boundary shake-up on the way for York

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THE Boundary Commission has released its final recommendations for revised council boundaries in York.

Under the plans the total number of city councillors will remain the same - 47 - but over 21 wards instead of the current 22, with each councillor representing an average of 3,500 people.

Recommendations published last November had to be re-thought when officials realised they were working from inaccurate data, and the fresh plans now put the entire University of York campus in the Hull Road ward.

Other changes include the creation of a new Copmanthorpe ward, and the merger of Osbaldwick and Derwent wards and Fulford and Heslington.

The Clifton and Rural West wards will drop from three councillors to two, while Guildhall will increase from two to three.

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8:51am Wed 23 Jul 14

Kevin Turvey says...

‘each councillor representing an average of 3,500 people’

The days of councillors actually representing the populace have largely with some exceptions long gone!

Shall we use the current York council leadership as good examples?

Thought not!
‘each councillor representing an average of 3,500 people’ The days of councillors actually representing the populace have largely with some exceptions long gone! Shall we use the current York council leadership as good examples? Thought not! Kevin Turvey
  • Score: 46

10:12am Wed 23 Jul 14

MarkyMarkMark says...

Shame it's not the Parliamentary Constituency boundaries too - there's amazingly little incentive to vote when it;s a forgone conclusion.
Shame it's not the Parliamentary Constituency boundaries too - there's amazingly little incentive to vote when it;s a forgone conclusion. MarkyMarkMark
  • Score: 21

10:38am Wed 23 Jul 14

Dave Ruddock says...

So what does all this "Boundary " move mean, they (The Council) meddling and posturing for next year. Why on earth more "Candidates" increase in Guildhall, that for the visitor votes.

Small a certain person meddling again.
So what does all this "Boundary " move mean, they (The Council) meddling and posturing for next year. Why on earth more "Candidates" increase in Guildhall, that for the visitor votes. Small a certain person meddling again. Dave Ruddock
  • Score: 3

12:38pm Wed 23 Jul 14

York1900 says...

revised council boundaries in York will not make any difference we still wind up with 47 people who tow the party line and can not sit down and come up with some really good plans for York They only want to push there own party policies that don't work for anyone except a few
revised council boundaries in York will not make any difference we still wind up with 47 people who tow the party line and can not sit down and come up with some really good plans for York They only want to push there own party policies that don't work for anyone except a few York1900
  • Score: 8

1:17pm Wed 23 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

York1900 wrote:
revised council boundaries in York will not make any difference we still wind up with 47 people who tow the party line and can not sit down and come up with some really good plans for York They only want to push there own party policies that don't work for anyone except a few
Confusing "their" with "there" ..tch! You may wish to bear in mind that Councillors cannot always do as they want, and cannot always do as some of their Ward residents might wish. They are very much subjected to the advice and recommendations made by Council Officers, as to what can be achieved legally and financially.
[quote][p][bold]York1900[/bold] wrote: revised council boundaries in York will not make any difference we still wind up with 47 people who tow the party line and can not sit down and come up with some really good plans for York They only want to push there own party policies that don't work for anyone except a few[/p][/quote]Confusing "their" with "there" ..tch! You may wish to bear in mind that Councillors cannot always do as they want, and cannot always do as some of their Ward residents might wish. They are very much subjected to the advice and recommendations made by Council Officers, as to what can be achieved legally and financially. pedalling paul
  • Score: 31

1:32pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
So what does all this "Boundary " move mean, they (The Council) meddling and posturing for next year. Why on earth more "Candidates" increase in Guildhall, that for the visitor votes.

Small a certain person meddling again.
Suggest you un-jerk your knee and google "boundary commission"
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: So what does all this "Boundary " move mean, they (The Council) meddling and posturing for next year. Why on earth more "Candidates" increase in Guildhall, that for the visitor votes. Small a certain person meddling again.[/p][/quote]Suggest you un-jerk your knee and google "boundary commission" Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 0

1:34pm Wed 23 Jul 14

oldgoat says...

MarkyMarkMark wrote:
Shame it's not the Parliamentary Constituency boundaries too - there's amazingly little incentive to vote when it;s a forgone conclusion.
Only ever a forgone conclusion if no-one else bothers to vote! Results might be very different if more people took the trouble to vote.....
[quote][p][bold]MarkyMarkMark[/bold] wrote: Shame it's not the Parliamentary Constituency boundaries too - there's amazingly little incentive to vote when it;s a forgone conclusion.[/p][/quote]Only ever a forgone conclusion if no-one else bothers to vote! Results might be very different if more people took the trouble to vote..... oldgoat
  • Score: 12

1:36pm Wed 23 Jul 14

oldgoat says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
So what does all this "Boundary " move mean, they (The Council) meddling and posturing for next year. Why on earth more "Candidates" increase in Guildhall, that for the visitor votes.

Small a certain person meddling again.
ON the other hand, you could bother reading the article and check the Boundary Commission website to find out some .....
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: So what does all this "Boundary " move mean, they (The Council) meddling and posturing for next year. Why on earth more "Candidates" increase in Guildhall, that for the visitor votes. Small a certain person meddling again.[/p][/quote]ON the other hand, you could bother reading the article and check the Boundary Commission website to find out some ..... oldgoat
  • Score: 11

3:50pm Wed 23 Jul 14

m dee says...

pedalling paul wrote:
York1900 wrote:
revised council boundaries in York will not make any difference we still wind up with 47 people who tow the party line and can not sit down and come up with some really good plans for York They only want to push there own party policies that don't work for anyone except a few
Confusing "their" with "there" ..tch! You may wish to bear in mind that Councillors cannot always do as they want, and cannot always do as some of their Ward residents might wish. They are very much subjected to the advice and recommendations made by Council Officers, as to what can be achieved legally and financially.
legally and financially says p.p
Would that be like the Lendal Bridge?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]York1900[/bold] wrote: revised council boundaries in York will not make any difference we still wind up with 47 people who tow the party line and can not sit down and come up with some really good plans for York They only want to push there own party policies that don't work for anyone except a few[/p][/quote]Confusing "their" with "there" ..tch! You may wish to bear in mind that Councillors cannot always do as they want, and cannot always do as some of their Ward residents might wish. They are very much subjected to the advice and recommendations made by Council Officers, as to what can be achieved legally and financially.[/p][/quote]legally and financially says p.p Would that be like the Lendal Bridge? m dee
  • Score: 8

5:00pm Wed 23 Jul 14

wildthing666 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
York1900 wrote:
revised council boundaries in York will not make any difference we still wind up with 47 people who tow the party line and can not sit down and come up with some really good plans for York They only want to push there own party policies that don't work for anyone except a few
Confusing "their" with "there" ..tch! You may wish to bear in mind that Councillors cannot always do as they want, and cannot always do as some of their Ward residents might wish. They are very much subjected to the advice and recommendations made by Council Officers, as to what can be achieved legally and financially.
If the councillor cannot represent their ward then they should step down toeing the party line is not what the electorate want that's why they don't vote.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]York1900[/bold] wrote: revised council boundaries in York will not make any difference we still wind up with 47 people who tow the party line and can not sit down and come up with some really good plans for York They only want to push there own party policies that don't work for anyone except a few[/p][/quote]Confusing "their" with "there" ..tch! You may wish to bear in mind that Councillors cannot always do as they want, and cannot always do as some of their Ward residents might wish. They are very much subjected to the advice and recommendations made by Council Officers, as to what can be achieved legally and financially.[/p][/quote]If the councillor cannot represent their ward then they should step down toeing the party line is not what the electorate want that's why they don't vote. wildthing666
  • Score: 8

10:30pm Wed 23 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

Perhaps then the national rules that govern elections should be changed so that more Independent candidates are encouraged to come forward. But at theend of the day, they are subject to the same Officer advice. They just don't have a Party line to tow./
Perhaps then the national rules that govern elections should be changed so that more Independent candidates are encouraged to come forward. But at theend of the day, they are subject to the same Officer advice. They just don't have a Party line to tow./ pedalling paul
  • Score: -4

10:57pm Wed 23 Jul 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Kevin Turvey wrote:
‘each councillor representing an average of 3,500 people’

The days of councillors actually representing the populace have largely with some exceptions long gone!

Shall we use the current York council leadership as good examples?

Thought not!
Nail on head!
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Turvey[/bold] wrote: ‘each councillor representing an average of 3,500 people’ The days of councillors actually representing the populace have largely with some exceptions long gone! Shall we use the current York council leadership as good examples? Thought not![/p][/quote]Nail on head! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: 0

8:58am Thu 24 Jul 14

krites says...

In what sense do councillors (or MPs) "represent" their constituents. Representation no longer seems to mean representing the views of constituents or speaking on behalf of them in general, but rather very narrowly acting as a sort of ombudsman or glorified social worker to take up individual cases of maladministration against the bureaucracy.
In what sense do councillors (or MPs) "represent" their constituents. Representation no longer seems to mean representing the views of constituents or speaking on behalf of them in general, but rather very narrowly acting as a sort of ombudsman or glorified social worker to take up individual cases of maladministration against the bureaucracy. krites
  • Score: -3

12:08pm Thu 24 Jul 14

nearlyman says...

How about the electorate voting on their councillors level of pay, that would fetch the votes out and i would imagine make the councillor a little more eager to represent the wishes of the voters
How about the electorate voting on their councillors level of pay, that would fetch the votes out and i would imagine make the councillor a little more eager to represent the wishes of the voters nearlyman
  • Score: -5

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