UPDATED: 5 more Labour councillors to stand down

York Press: Councillor Fiona Fitzpatrick Councillor Fiona Fitzpatrick

FIVE more Labour councillors are expected to retire ahead of next year's local elections.

City of York Labour Party has announced today that Councillors Fiona Fitzpatrick, Sandy Fraser, David Horton, Ruth Potter and Anna Semlyen will retire from the council in May 2015.

Coun Fitzpatrick said: "I am standing down to return to a career in education that will include helping to set up literacy projects in disadvantaged inner city areas in the USA.

"It has been a privilege to represent the residents of Hull Road ward and I will continue to work with my fellow Councillor Neil Barnes in this role until the election next May."

Coun Ruth Potter said she had "thoroughly enjoyed representing local residents" in Beckfield and Heworth, and thanked them for their support.

She said: "However, I have decided that after 16 years service and after returning to full time work I need a change so that I can follow my other interests and hobbies. It has been a wonderful experience being part of the Labour group and I wish all my colleagues good luck in the future."

Coun Anna Semlyen said the decision was "a work life balance" issue, and would enable her to work as a yoga teacher during the evening, and Couns Horton and Fraser said they would now focus on other activities.

The announcement comes days after Labour Councillors Ken King, David Scott and Helen Douglas all lost out in a selection battle in Clifton, which all three currently represent, and Coun Joe Riches announced in May he will step down next year to run as MP for York Outer.

York's Labour Party chair Viv Kind, said: "Whilst City of York Labour Party is sorry that these well regarded councillors have decided to stand down, we support them fully in reaching their decision.

"We are very grateful to all these councillors for the huge contribution they have made to the city on behalf of Labour. No matter how long they have served on the Council, each of them has worked with unrelenting commitment and enthusiasm to represent the residents in their wards and for York."

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3:02pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Ichabod76 says...

So Cllr Anna Slimylyen got what she wanted and has been paid for by 20s plenty, and is now retiring.
I bet the residents who elected her are really grateful !
So Cllr Anna Slimylyen got what she wanted and has been paid for by 20s plenty, and is now retiring. I bet the residents who elected her are really grateful ! Ichabod76
  • Score: -5

3:21pm Tue 8 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

Did Anna & her outgoing colleagues jump or were some of them pushed............it would be interesting to know. But perhaps it would take another Lynn Jeffries to reveal whether there is anything to be revealed.
Did Anna & her outgoing colleagues jump or were some of them pushed............it would be interesting to know. But perhaps it would take another Lynn Jeffries to reveal whether there is anything to be revealed. pedalling paul
  • Score: -10

3:31pm Tue 8 Jul 14

wallman says...

pp they have jumped before they get very embarrassed next May
pp they have jumped before they get very embarrassed next May wallman
  • Score: 9

3:31pm Tue 8 Jul 14

eeoodares says...

Hahahahahah!

They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander?

Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands!
Hahahahahah! They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander? Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands! eeoodares
  • Score: -18

3:35pm Tue 8 Jul 14

julia brica says...

Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow.
Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question.
Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow. Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question. julia brica
  • Score: 4

3:43pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Mr. Marcus says...

They must be cannon fodder for little Jim (Alexander) for May 2015.
Roll on the council elections in May, 2015, when we say good riddance to Alexander, Tracy Simpson and that looser Merrett (0r should I say demerit)?
They must be cannon fodder for little Jim (Alexander) for May 2015. Roll on the council elections in May, 2015, when we say good riddance to Alexander, Tracy Simpson and that looser Merrett (0r should I say demerit)? Mr. Marcus
  • Score: 0

3:49pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Y.I.P. says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
So Cllr Anna Slimylyen got what she wanted and has been paid for by 20s plenty, and is now retiring.
I bet the residents who elected her are really grateful !
and don't forget they get a nice little pension as well now,mmmmmm yummy
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: So Cllr Anna Slimylyen got what she wanted and has been paid for by 20s plenty, and is now retiring. I bet the residents who elected her are really grateful ![/p][/quote]and don't forget they get a nice little pension as well now,mmmmmm yummy Y.I.P.
  • Score: 7

4:34pm Tue 8 Jul 14

svensvensson says...

julia brica wrote:
Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow.
Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question.
You are wrong. He doesn't. The Lib Dems put up 11 current York uni students or recent York uni graduates in 2011 for election, its just that they all lost. Labour had five. The Tories also had a similar number, or would have done if they had not messed up their nominations. Keith Aspden was a student/recent graduate when first elected in Fulford, so having a go at Labour for this exclusively is a bit unfair but that won't stop the likes of Steve Galloway. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself anyway if they are good councillors. I think you will also find that most of these councillors standing down are strong Alexander supporters and that the reasons behind the changes in the Labour group are far more complex than you suggest, but conspiracy theories are always easier. Alexander doesn't have the power to tell branch parties what to do and they'd probably tell him to do one if he did.
[quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow. Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question.[/p][/quote]You are wrong. He doesn't. The Lib Dems put up 11 current York uni students or recent York uni graduates in 2011 for election, its just that they all lost. Labour had five. The Tories also had a similar number, or would have done if they had not messed up their nominations. Keith Aspden was a student/recent graduate when first elected in Fulford, so having a go at Labour for this exclusively is a bit unfair but that won't stop the likes of Steve Galloway. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself anyway if they are good councillors. I think you will also find that most of these councillors standing down are strong Alexander supporters and that the reasons behind the changes in the Labour group are far more complex than you suggest, but conspiracy theories are always easier. Alexander doesn't have the power to tell branch parties what to do and they'd probably tell him to do one if he did. svensvensson
  • Score: 29

4:39pm Tue 8 Jul 14

meme says...

the words.....Rats and sinking come to mind
the words.....Rats and sinking come to mind meme
  • Score: -11

4:44pm Tue 8 Jul 14

exlabourmember2 says...

svensvensson wrote:
julia brica wrote:
Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow.
Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question.
You are wrong. He doesn't. The Lib Dems put up 11 current York uni students or recent York uni graduates in 2011 for election, its just that they all lost. Labour had five. The Tories also had a similar number, or would have done if they had not messed up their nominations. Keith Aspden was a student/recent graduate when first elected in Fulford, so having a go at Labour for this exclusively is a bit unfair but that won't stop the likes of Steve Galloway. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself anyway if they are good councillors. I think you will also find that most of these councillors standing down are strong Alexander supporters and that the reasons behind the changes in the Labour group are far more complex than you suggest, but conspiracy theories are always easier. Alexander doesn't have the power to tell branch parties what to do and they'd probably tell him to do one if he did.
Well Cllr Crisp, while your on here do you want to explain what happened with the Grand Departy c**k up?
[quote][p][bold]svensvensson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow. Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question.[/p][/quote]You are wrong. He doesn't. The Lib Dems put up 11 current York uni students or recent York uni graduates in 2011 for election, its just that they all lost. Labour had five. The Tories also had a similar number, or would have done if they had not messed up their nominations. Keith Aspden was a student/recent graduate when first elected in Fulford, so having a go at Labour for this exclusively is a bit unfair but that won't stop the likes of Steve Galloway. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself anyway if they are good councillors. I think you will also find that most of these councillors standing down are strong Alexander supporters and that the reasons behind the changes in the Labour group are far more complex than you suggest, but conspiracy theories are always easier. Alexander doesn't have the power to tell branch parties what to do and they'd probably tell him to do one if he did.[/p][/quote]Well Cllr Crisp, while your on here do you want to explain what happened with the Grand Departy c**k up? exlabourmember2
  • Score: 1

5:15pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Frodo Baggins says...

eeoodares wrote:
Hahahahahah!

They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander?

Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands!
Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: Hahahahahah! They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander? Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands![/p][/quote]Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes? Frodo Baggins
  • Score: 4

5:30pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Rosebud59 says...

I believe that in York Labour Party if your face or social standing doesn't fit then you are out. In the early 1990s as the mother of 3 young children I was denied selection. Only a few years later after gaining my degree from York Uni, I was told I was just what the Party was looking for!!!! Hypocrites then, and in my view nothing has changed.... of course they jumped, before they were pushed.
I believe that in York Labour Party if your face or social standing doesn't fit then you are out. In the early 1990s as the mother of 3 young children I was denied selection. Only a few years later after gaining my degree from York Uni, I was told I was just what the Party was looking for!!!! Hypocrites then, and in my view nothing has changed.... of course they jumped, before they were pushed. Rosebud59
  • Score: -11

5:49pm Tue 8 Jul 14

trailblazer says...

Does that MAYHEM MERRITT is remaining to foul up the environment like he did the traffic,
Does that MAYHEM MERRITT is remaining to foul up the environment like he did the traffic, trailblazer
  • Score: -20

6:06pm Tue 8 Jul 14

yorkshirelad says...

Do these folk realise how unsavoury the petty political backbiting looks?
Do these folk realise how unsavoury the petty political backbiting looks? yorkshirelad
  • Score: -32

6:12pm Tue 8 Jul 14

tizme says...

I agree with the comment rats and ship!! Sadly, when we elect these idiots we are stuck with them for as many years as it takes them to fulfil their own needs, and their pockets. I just wish we could vote them out after, say, a year or two. And without the perks they take with them!!!
I agree with the comment rats and ship!! Sadly, when we elect these idiots we are stuck with them for as many years as it takes them to fulfil their own needs, and their pockets. I just wish we could vote them out after, say, a year or two. And without the perks they take with them!!! tizme
  • Score: -11

6:20pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Dave Ruddock says...

Its the whole kindergarden of so called politics, who ever is IN **** up. mess things , argue that the party before messed what ever up. best we go back to the Cooperative council, less arguing and fewer stupid vanity programs.

The wording VOTED BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE is lost on any and all kingergatden at the council office fish bowl
Its the whole kindergarden of so called politics, who ever is IN **** up. mess things , argue that the party before messed what ever up. best we go back to the Cooperative council, less arguing and fewer stupid vanity programs. The wording VOTED BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE is lost on any and all kingergatden at the council office fish bowl Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -25

6:27pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Badgers Drift says...

It's a mass walk-out, which amounts to a vote of no confidence in Alexander and his inner circle.

He's toast in 2015, along with many of his loyal cronies...

Bye bye!
It's a mass walk-out, which amounts to a vote of no confidence in Alexander and his inner circle. He's toast in 2015, along with many of his loyal cronies... Bye bye! Badgers Drift
  • Score: -6

7:08pm Tue 8 Jul 14

pedalling paul says...

We had a hung Council for a while, some years back. Perhaps enforced concensus politics, with parties like the Greens & maybe UKIP holding the balance, would be a good thing.
We had a hung Council for a while, some years back. Perhaps enforced concensus politics, with parties like the Greens & maybe UKIP holding the balance, would be a good thing. pedalling paul
  • Score: 27

7:28pm Tue 8 Jul 14

courier46 says...

Come ,make a bodge up with 20 mph zones and leave thanks Anna,shame the main 4 or 5 other idiots don't go as well.
Come ,make a bodge up with 20 mph zones and leave thanks Anna,shame the main 4 or 5 other idiots don't go as well. courier46
  • Score: -5

7:34pm Tue 8 Jul 14

rat scabies says...

Labour will get humiliated next year and these councillors know that! Fact!

I have already decided as a life long Labour voter that there isn't a cat in hell's chance that Alexander and Simpson-Laing and the rest of these so called phoney's will be getting a sniff at my vote, the rest of my family feel exactly the same!

Goodbye York Labour! You are rotten to the core!
Labour will get humiliated next year and these councillors know that! Fact! I have already decided as a life long Labour voter that there isn't a cat in hell's chance that Alexander and Simpson-Laing and the rest of these so called phoney's will be getting a sniff at my vote, the rest of my family feel exactly the same! Goodbye York Labour! You are rotten to the core! rat scabies
  • Score: 11

8:23pm Tue 8 Jul 14

julia brica says...

I havnt heard anything positive from the York Independence party yet.
I havnt heard anything positive from the York Independence party yet. julia brica
  • Score: -2

8:24pm Tue 8 Jul 14

yorkshirelad says...

And you'll be saying the same about the next council.... whinge whinge whinge. It's a British thing...vote 'em in and then slag 'em off.
Attempting to fill up the forum with apparently disgruntled voters (opposition supporters/members??
) is very tedious.
And you'll be saying the same about the next council.... whinge whinge whinge. It's a British thing...vote 'em in and then slag 'em off. Attempting to fill up the forum with apparently disgruntled voters (opposition supporters/members?? ) is very tedious. yorkshirelad
  • Score: 61

8:36pm Tue 8 Jul 14

eeoodares says...

Frodo Baggins wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Hahahahahah!

They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander?

Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands!
Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?
Well I am glad that you know me well enough to presume where my vote will go, because I do not YET!
I will vote at local level the same way I do on a National level, I see who is doing and saying what! I take a view of what they have said in the past and where they stand at that time.
I feel that more often than not a vote for an independent is a wasted vote, but if there is an 'alternative' party that is making an impact and seems to care they will get my vote.
It is my experience that years ago, Nationally, people voted Tory or Labour and stuck to it, after the Tories made a real hash many switched and look what we got! However it seems that no matter what Labour do Nationally, traditional Labour voters will vote for them despite Labour wrecking the Country. However, I can not imagine that Labour will get in to York again in my lifetime, I certainly will not forget what these arrogant, self serving crooks did to my City.
[quote][p][bold]Frodo Baggins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: Hahahahahah! They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander? Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands![/p][/quote]Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?[/p][/quote]Well I am glad that you know me well enough to presume where my vote will go, because I do not YET! I will vote at local level the same way I do on a National level, I see who is doing and saying what! I take a view of what they have said in the past and where they stand at that time. I feel that more often than not a vote for an independent is a wasted vote, but if there is an 'alternative' party that is making an impact and seems to care they will get my vote. It is my experience that years ago, Nationally, people voted Tory or Labour and stuck to it, after the Tories made a real hash many switched and look what we got! However it seems that no matter what Labour do Nationally, traditional Labour voters will vote for them despite Labour wrecking the Country. However, I can not imagine that Labour will get in to York again in my lifetime, I certainly will not forget what these arrogant, self serving crooks did to my City. eeoodares
  • Score: -29

8:37pm Tue 8 Jul 14

courier46 says...

yorkshirelad wrote:
And you'll be saying the same about the next council.... whinge whinge whinge. It's a British thing...vote 'em in and then slag 'em off.
Attempting to fill up the forum with apparently disgruntled voters (opposition supporters/members??

) is very tedious.
I believe it goes along the lines of vote em in hope for better and get let down,in this lots case were not let down we are in free fall to disaster!!!!
[quote][p][bold]yorkshirelad[/bold] wrote: And you'll be saying the same about the next council.... whinge whinge whinge. It's a British thing...vote 'em in and then slag 'em off. Attempting to fill up the forum with apparently disgruntled voters (opposition supporters/members?? ) is very tedious.[/p][/quote]I believe it goes along the lines of vote em in hope for better and get let down,in this lots case were not let down we are in free fall to disaster!!!! courier46
  • Score: -33

8:46pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Dr Brian says...

Like others on this thread I am a lifelong labour voter who will NOT be voting Labour in the local elections next year. The only way I would even consider voting Labour was if Alexander Simpson Lang and Merrett announced that they were not standing next year. If not Hell will freeze over beforeI vote Labour in Council elections with any of those three leading or being part of the scene.

JA must realise now that their most senior people are turning their backs on them like as others have said rats leaving a sinking ship.
Like others on this thread I am a lifelong labour voter who will NOT be voting Labour in the local elections next year. The only way I would even consider voting Labour was if Alexander Simpson Lang and Merrett announced that they were not standing next year. If not Hell will freeze over beforeI vote Labour in Council elections with any of those three leading or being part of the scene. JA must realise now that their most senior people are turning their backs on them like as others have said rats leaving a sinking ship. Dr Brian
  • Score: -20

8:47pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Y.I.P. says...

julia brica wrote:
I havnt heard anything positive from the York Independence party yet.
still here waiting for others to self-destruct(doing ok arnt they)????
[quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: I havnt heard anything positive from the York Independence party yet.[/p][/quote]still here waiting for others to self-destruct(doing ok arnt they)???? Y.I.P.
  • Score: -38

9:03pm Tue 8 Jul 14

pault42 says...

Is the Gravy Train heading for a massive smash, I certainly hope so. I just wish instead of these Labour nobodys' going, the self-righteous bunch of ______ (fill in with your own word please) idiots at the top of the stinking pile would resign and give anybody else the chance to turn things round. I know they'll likely be gone in May 2015 but how much more damage are they going to do before then?
Is the Gravy Train heading for a massive smash, I certainly hope so. I just wish instead of these Labour nobodys' going, the self-righteous bunch of ______ (fill in with your own word please) idiots at the top of the stinking pile would resign and give anybody else the chance to turn things round. I know they'll likely be gone in May 2015 but how much more damage are they going to do before then? pault42
  • Score: -29

9:07pm Tue 8 Jul 14

nearlyman says...

Well it should be interesting to see what happens. More than a little bit of tactical voting could be necessary and that means some biting their lips and voting for a party that they may not usually consider. Does York have the b*lls ?
Well it should be interesting to see what happens. More than a little bit of tactical voting could be necessary and that means some biting their lips and voting for a party that they may not usually consider. Does York have the b*lls ? nearlyman
  • Score: -26

9:09pm Tue 8 Jul 14

andylaw3107 says...

Frodo Baggins wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Hahahahahah!

They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander?

Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands!
Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?
You do realise there are other options?

----

Whilst my allegiance lies with the Green Party, it will be a shame to lose Cllr Fitzpatrick - my experience of working with her has been wholly positive, and she quickly became a good friend.

She has been committed and dedicated to serving the people she represents and particularly hands on in engaging with and supporting York's underlying diversity, which is how I came to know her. She is certainly someone who has been involved in local politics for all the right reasons.
[quote][p][bold]Frodo Baggins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: Hahahahahah! They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander? Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands![/p][/quote]Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?[/p][/quote]You do realise there are other options? ---- Whilst my allegiance lies with the Green Party, it will be a shame to lose Cllr Fitzpatrick - my experience of working with her has been wholly positive, and she quickly became a good friend. She has been committed and dedicated to serving the people she represents and particularly hands on in engaging with and supporting York's underlying diversity, which is how I came to know her. She is certainly someone who has been involved in local politics for all the right reasons. andylaw3107
  • Score: -49

9:25pm Tue 8 Jul 14

piaggio1 says...

Well..this lot are a clone of edinboro city council.bankrupted the city.most of em on the make (allegedly ?).totally despised by the residents.all of em spending the citys money on vanity projects....ie the tram. An now the idiot clone of merett has the nerve to bid for the gran depart....and as for the so called leader...hinds !!!!
Well..this lot are a clone of edinboro city council.bankrupted the city.most of em on the make (allegedly ?).totally despised by the residents.all of em spending the citys money on vanity projects....ie the tram. An now the idiot clone of merett has the nerve to bid for the gran depart....and as for the so called leader...hinds !!!! piaggio1
  • Score: -39

9:28pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

Tut tut tut, politics, eh?
Nasty nasty nasty.
You can't trust 'em. Any of 'em.

If my child said to me "Hey dad, I think I'm gonna get into politics and stuff" I think I'd be like - "Yeah that's cool, but hey have you seen this? It's called crack and you can smoke it in a pipe and if I'm honest it will do you less harm that politics and all the people you meet who are involved in crack will be nicer and more reliable and trustworthy than any of those you will meet who are involved with politics.



PS 2015 is too late, ANNA SEMLYEN. How have you even made it this far?
Tut tut tut, politics, eh? Nasty nasty nasty. You can't trust 'em. Any of 'em. If my child said to me "Hey dad, I think I'm gonna get into politics and stuff" I think I'd be like - "Yeah that's cool, but hey have you seen this? It's called crack and you can smoke it in a pipe and if I'm honest it will do you less harm that politics and all the people you meet who are involved in crack will be nicer and more reliable and trustworthy than any of those you will meet who are involved with politics. PS 2015 is too late, ANNA SEMLYEN. How have you even made it this far? Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: -20

9:33pm Tue 8 Jul 14

DEKKA says...

I was looking forward to trying to vote out Anna Semlyen next year. Now that pleasure has been torn from my grasp.
I was looking forward to trying to vote out Anna Semlyen next year. Now that pleasure has been torn from my grasp. DEKKA
  • Score: -17

10:39pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Jack Ham says...

Drama and intrigue.....I imagine there were some lively dinner parties in the upper echelons of the York Labour Party this week.

A few observations:

1. Regardless of the official statements the deselections in Clifton would not have happened without approval from James Alexander. He is the leader of the council and to remove long serving councillors without his approval would be impossible.

2. The 'retirement' of Cllrs Fitzpatrick, Horton, Frazer and Potter was not a decision of their own making. They are all not only long standing politicians but also deeply committed to the left and local politics. They were pushed because they did not fit the image of the new media savvy elite. They were also a potential group who could have rallied support to remove Alexander and put York Labour back on track. This threat had to be removed.

3. There is a growing belief that York Labour will lose control of CYC in May 2015. This may or may not happen. Public opinion can change rapidly.

4. What out for changes and repositioning by senior CYC officers over the next six months. After so publicly declaring her support for James Alexander how will Kersten England begin to position herself if the odds increase on a Lib/Con coalition for York. Will she try to save her job or will she leave of her own accord before then? I suspect the latter.

5. The York Labour revelations are not yet over. JA has now given a significant number of longstanding councillors nothing to lose by spilling the beans and sharing the truth about what has been happening since 2010. Alexander, Merrett, Simpson-Laing, Crisp, Levene, Williams - I I shine they are all a little anxious about what form this will take.

6. Cllr Semlyn - not even worth commenting on. Her questionable behaviour from the very start and unashamed use of her
political office to further her paid employment have made her an ultimately forgettable and pointless councillor. Her only legacy will be the debt we incurred to pay for some road signs.
Drama and intrigue.....I imagine there were some lively dinner parties in the upper echelons of the York Labour Party this week. A few observations: 1. Regardless of the official statements the deselections in Clifton would not have happened without approval from James Alexander. He is the leader of the council and to remove long serving councillors without his approval would be impossible. 2. The 'retirement' of Cllrs Fitzpatrick, Horton, Frazer and Potter was not a decision of their own making. They are all not only long standing politicians but also deeply committed to the left and local politics. They were pushed because they did not fit the image of the new media savvy elite. They were also a potential group who could have rallied support to remove Alexander and put York Labour back on track. This threat had to be removed. 3. There is a growing belief that York Labour will lose control of CYC in May 2015. This may or may not happen. Public opinion can change rapidly. 4. What out for changes and repositioning by senior CYC officers over the next six months. After so publicly declaring her support for James Alexander how will Kersten England begin to position herself if the odds increase on a Lib/Con coalition for York. Will she try to save her job or will she leave of her own accord before then? I suspect the latter. 5. The York Labour revelations are not yet over. JA has now given a significant number of longstanding councillors nothing to lose by spilling the beans and sharing the truth about what has been happening since 2010. Alexander, Merrett, Simpson-Laing, Crisp, Levene, Williams - I I shine they are all a little anxious about what form this will take. 6. Cllr Semlyn - not even worth commenting on. Her questionable behaviour from the very start and unashamed use of her political office to further her paid employment have made her an ultimately forgettable and pointless councillor. Her only legacy will be the debt we incurred to pay for some road signs. Jack Ham
  • Score: -12

10:41pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Frodo Baggins says...

eeoodares wrote:
Frodo Baggins wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Hahahahahah!

They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander?

Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands!
Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?
Well I am glad that you know me well enough to presume where my vote will go, because I do not YET!
I will vote at local level the same way I do on a National level, I see who is doing and saying what! I take a view of what they have said in the past and where they stand at that time.
I feel that more often than not a vote for an independent is a wasted vote, but if there is an 'alternative' party that is making an impact and seems to care they will get my vote.
It is my experience that years ago, Nationally, people voted Tory or Labour and stuck to it, after the Tories made a real hash many switched and look what we got! However it seems that no matter what Labour do Nationally, traditional Labour voters will vote for them despite Labour wrecking the Country. However, I can not imagine that Labour will get in to York again in my lifetime, I certainly will not forget what these arrogant, self serving crooks did to my City.
I asked a genuine question and it wasn't just aimed at you it was to everyone moaning about Labour. I am a Labour supporter during General elections but a floating voter when it comes to local level. I will vote for a party that I think will offer the best services for the issues that will affect me or my family. At the moment, like you, I am undecided.
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frodo Baggins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: Hahahahahah! They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander? Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands![/p][/quote]Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?[/p][/quote]Well I am glad that you know me well enough to presume where my vote will go, because I do not YET! I will vote at local level the same way I do on a National level, I see who is doing and saying what! I take a view of what they have said in the past and where they stand at that time. I feel that more often than not a vote for an independent is a wasted vote, but if there is an 'alternative' party that is making an impact and seems to care they will get my vote. It is my experience that years ago, Nationally, people voted Tory or Labour and stuck to it, after the Tories made a real hash many switched and look what we got! However it seems that no matter what Labour do Nationally, traditional Labour voters will vote for them despite Labour wrecking the Country. However, I can not imagine that Labour will get in to York again in my lifetime, I certainly will not forget what these arrogant, self serving crooks did to my City.[/p][/quote]I asked a genuine question and it wasn't just aimed at you it was to everyone moaning about Labour. I am a Labour supporter during General elections but a floating voter when it comes to local level. I will vote for a party that I think will offer the best services for the issues that will affect me or my family. At the moment, like you, I am undecided. Frodo Baggins
  • Score: 5

10:50pm Tue 8 Jul 14

courier46 says...

Frodo Baggins wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Frodo Baggins wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Hahahahahah!

They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander?

Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands!
Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?
Well I am glad that you know me well enough to presume where my vote will go, because I do not YET!
I will vote at local level the same way I do on a National level, I see who is doing and saying what! I take a view of what they have said in the past and where they stand at that time.
I feel that more often than not a vote for an independent is a wasted vote, but if there is an 'alternative' party that is making an impact and seems to care they will get my vote.
It is my experience that years ago, Nationally, people voted Tory or Labour and stuck to it, after the Tories made a real hash many switched and look what we got! However it seems that no matter what Labour do Nationally, traditional Labour voters will vote for them despite Labour wrecking the Country. However, I can not imagine that Labour will get in to York again in my lifetime, I certainly will not forget what these arrogant, self serving crooks did to my City.
I asked a genuine question and it wasn't just aimed at you it was to everyone moaning about Labour. I am a Labour supporter during General elections but a floating voter when it comes to local level. I will vote for a party that I think will offer the best services for the issues that will affect me or my family. At the moment, like you, I am undecided.
Lets hope everyone votes to get these idiots out ,we dont want even a small chance of them getting back in.
[quote][p][bold]Frodo Baggins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frodo Baggins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: Hahahahahah! They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander? Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands![/p][/quote]Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?[/p][/quote]Well I am glad that you know me well enough to presume where my vote will go, because I do not YET! I will vote at local level the same way I do on a National level, I see who is doing and saying what! I take a view of what they have said in the past and where they stand at that time. I feel that more often than not a vote for an independent is a wasted vote, but if there is an 'alternative' party that is making an impact and seems to care they will get my vote. It is my experience that years ago, Nationally, people voted Tory or Labour and stuck to it, after the Tories made a real hash many switched and look what we got! However it seems that no matter what Labour do Nationally, traditional Labour voters will vote for them despite Labour wrecking the Country. However, I can not imagine that Labour will get in to York again in my lifetime, I certainly will not forget what these arrogant, self serving crooks did to my City.[/p][/quote]I asked a genuine question and it wasn't just aimed at you it was to everyone moaning about Labour. I am a Labour supporter during General elections but a floating voter when it comes to local level. I will vote for a party that I think will offer the best services for the issues that will affect me or my family. At the moment, like you, I am undecided.[/p][/quote]Lets hope everyone votes to get these idiots out ,we dont want even a small chance of them getting back in. courier46
  • Score: -24

11:02pm Tue 8 Jul 14

oi oi savaloy says...

I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP
I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -32

11:20pm Tue 8 Jul 14

Jack Ham says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP
Voting UKIP will only help Labour. If you want them out be tactical and go Libdem or Tory depending where you live.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP[/p][/quote]Voting UKIP will only help Labour. If you want them out be tactical and go Libdem or Tory depending where you live. Jack Ham
  • Score: -4

11:48pm Tue 8 Jul 14

m dee says...

svensvensson wrote:
julia brica wrote:
Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow.
Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question.
You are wrong. He doesn't. The Lib Dems put up 11 current York uni students or recent York uni graduates in 2011 for election, its just that they all lost. Labour had five. The Tories also had a similar number, or would have done if they had not messed up their nominations. Keith Aspden was a student/recent graduate when first elected in Fulford, so having a go at Labour for this exclusively is a bit unfair but that won't stop the likes of Steve Galloway. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself anyway if they are good councillors. I think you will also find that most of these councillors standing down are strong Alexander supporters and that the reasons behind the changes in the Labour group are far more complex than you suggest, but conspiracy theories are always easier. Alexander doesn't have the power to tell branch parties what to do and they'd probably tell him to do one if he did.
Thing is your statement about the changes been far more complex and not expanding on this just adds to readers suspicions that somethings amiss.
[quote][p][bold]svensvensson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow. Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question.[/p][/quote]You are wrong. He doesn't. The Lib Dems put up 11 current York uni students or recent York uni graduates in 2011 for election, its just that they all lost. Labour had five. The Tories also had a similar number, or would have done if they had not messed up their nominations. Keith Aspden was a student/recent graduate when first elected in Fulford, so having a go at Labour for this exclusively is a bit unfair but that won't stop the likes of Steve Galloway. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself anyway if they are good councillors. I think you will also find that most of these councillors standing down are strong Alexander supporters and that the reasons behind the changes in the Labour group are far more complex than you suggest, but conspiracy theories are always easier. Alexander doesn't have the power to tell branch parties what to do and they'd probably tell him to do one if he did.[/p][/quote]Thing is your statement about the changes been far more complex and not expanding on this just adds to readers suspicions that somethings amiss. m dee
  • Score: -73

11:54pm Tue 8 Jul 14

nearlyman says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP
......and by doing this you show the reason why these idiots have every chance of retaining power. If you really want rid, then you have to vote for the most likely candidate to beat them...........and that is not ukip.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP[/p][/quote]......and by doing this you show the reason why these idiots have every chance of retaining power. If you really want rid, then you have to vote for the most likely candidate to beat them...........and that is not ukip. nearlyman
  • Score: -3

12:07am Wed 9 Jul 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

In Rotherham they voted UKIP and got UKIP in several seats that were all Labour!
In Rotherham they voted UKIP and got UKIP in several seats that were all Labour! ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: -68

12:41am Wed 9 Jul 14

svensvensson says...

m dee wrote:
svensvensson wrote:
julia brica wrote:
Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow.
Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question.
You are wrong. He doesn't. The Lib Dems put up 11 current York uni students or recent York uni graduates in 2011 for election, its just that they all lost. Labour had five. The Tories also had a similar number, or would have done if they had not messed up their nominations. Keith Aspden was a student/recent graduate when first elected in Fulford, so having a go at Labour for this exclusively is a bit unfair but that won't stop the likes of Steve Galloway. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself anyway if they are good councillors. I think you will also find that most of these councillors standing down are strong Alexander supporters and that the reasons behind the changes in the Labour group are far more complex than you suggest, but conspiracy theories are always easier. Alexander doesn't have the power to tell branch parties what to do and they'd probably tell him to do one if he did.
Thing is your statement about the changes been far more complex and not expanding on this just adds to readers suspicions that somethings amiss.
Sorry, I should have said more complex but less exciting. The reasons that they have given are accurate and I do know some of the people in question. After so many years on the council people decide to pursue other things and have more time to themselves. Most of the stuff on here is utter garbage, written by people who haven't a clue what is going on and just like to make things up to fit their own agendas. There is probably no point in posting this as people on here will believe what they want to believe. I would agree on one thing though, the local elections in 2015 will be very interesting. There will be a lot of people in for a bit of a shock.
[quote][p][bold]m dee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]svensvensson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: Best to leave now rather than face the humiliation that is surely to follow. Or Retire or be deselected as James has another group in the wings who I suspect have never worked in their lives and are heavily connected to the University student union. There again I could be wrong, but 5 in one go begs the question.[/p][/quote]You are wrong. He doesn't. The Lib Dems put up 11 current York uni students or recent York uni graduates in 2011 for election, its just that they all lost. Labour had five. The Tories also had a similar number, or would have done if they had not messed up their nominations. Keith Aspden was a student/recent graduate when first elected in Fulford, so having a go at Labour for this exclusively is a bit unfair but that won't stop the likes of Steve Galloway. Not that there is anything wrong with that in itself anyway if they are good councillors. I think you will also find that most of these councillors standing down are strong Alexander supporters and that the reasons behind the changes in the Labour group are far more complex than you suggest, but conspiracy theories are always easier. Alexander doesn't have the power to tell branch parties what to do and they'd probably tell him to do one if he did.[/p][/quote]Thing is your statement about the changes been far more complex and not expanding on this just adds to readers suspicions that somethings amiss.[/p][/quote]Sorry, I should have said more complex but less exciting. The reasons that they have given are accurate and I do know some of the people in question. After so many years on the council people decide to pursue other things and have more time to themselves. Most of the stuff on here is utter garbage, written by people who haven't a clue what is going on and just like to make things up to fit their own agendas. There is probably no point in posting this as people on here will believe what they want to believe. I would agree on one thing though, the local elections in 2015 will be very interesting. There will be a lot of people in for a bit of a shock. svensvensson
  • Score: -1

4:50am Wed 9 Jul 14

DEKKA says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP
And UKIP has exactly what to do with local politics? They are a one trick pony national party.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP[/p][/quote]And UKIP has exactly what to do with local politics? They are a one trick pony national party. DEKKA
  • Score: 73

4:56am Wed 9 Jul 14

Emperor Palpatine says...

I'd never vote Tory at a General Election, as a Trade Unionist and a moderate left winger I don't like what they stand for. But a Tory local council I would have no problem with. They know the value of money, tend to keep council tax bills down, are not anti motorist and don't tend to waste money on Politically Correct vanity projects. Alexander, Merritt and Semlyn have ensured that I will never vote Labour in a local election again, neither have I forgotten the arrogance of Galloway and the Lib Dems. I wouldn't p*ss on Cameron and Osborne if they were on fire but the local Tories couldn't do any worse than the current bunch of corrupt liars. They'll probably get this left winger's vote.
I'd never vote Tory at a General Election, as a Trade Unionist and a moderate left winger I don't like what they stand for. But a Tory local council I would have no problem with. They know the value of money, tend to keep council tax bills down, are not anti motorist and don't tend to waste money on Politically Correct vanity projects. Alexander, Merritt and Semlyn have ensured that I will never vote Labour in a local election again, neither have I forgotten the arrogance of Galloway and the Lib Dems. I wouldn't p*ss on Cameron and Osborne if they were on fire but the local Tories couldn't do any worse than the current bunch of corrupt liars. They'll probably get this left winger's vote. Emperor Palpatine
  • Score: -23

7:00am Wed 9 Jul 14

oi oi savaloy says...

DEKKA wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP
And UKIP has exactly what to do with local politics? They are a one trick pony national party.
"a one trick pony"??

hows that then??

instead of reading the labour lies about them, go and listen to what they have to say, then you can make your mind up and either vote for them or vote against them! my mind is made up and they are getting my vote.

http://d3n8a8pro7vhm
x.cloudfront.net/the
mes/5308a93901925b5b
09000002/attachments
/original/1397750311
/localmanifesto2014.
pdf?1397750311
[quote][p][bold]DEKKA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP[/p][/quote]And UKIP has exactly what to do with local politics? They are a one trick pony national party.[/p][/quote]"a one trick pony"?? hows that then?? instead of reading the labour lies about them, go and listen to what they have to say, then you can make your mind up and either vote for them or vote against them! my mind is made up and they are getting my vote. http://d3n8a8pro7vhm x.cloudfront.net/the mes/5308a93901925b5b 09000002/attachments /original/1397750311 /localmanifesto2014. pdf?1397750311 oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -34

7:10am Wed 9 Jul 14

oi oi savaloy says...

nearlyman wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP
......and by doing this you show the reason why these idiots have every chance of retaining power. If you really want rid, then you have to vote for the most likely candidate to beat them...........and that is not ukip.
Well the general feeling i get at work is all the (ex) staunch Labour supporter's are turning to UKIP (me included).. and they all stood by their word at the current euro elections AND lots were saying it wasn't a protest vote.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP[/p][/quote]......and by doing this you show the reason why these idiots have every chance of retaining power. If you really want rid, then you have to vote for the most likely candidate to beat them...........and that is not ukip.[/p][/quote]Well the general feeling i get at work is all the (ex) staunch Labour supporter's are turning to UKIP (me included).. and they all stood by their word at the current euro elections AND lots were saying it wasn't a protest vote. oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -31

8:15am Wed 9 Jul 14

Micklegate says...

Emperor Palpatine wrote:
I'd never vote Tory at a General Election, as a Trade Unionist and a moderate left winger I don't like what they stand for. But a Tory local council I would have no problem with. They know the value of money, tend to keep council tax bills down, are not anti motorist and don't tend to waste money on Politically Correct vanity projects. Alexander, Merritt and Semlyn have ensured that I will never vote Labour in a local election again, neither have I forgotten the arrogance of Galloway and the Lib Dems. I wouldn't p*ss on Cameron and Osborne if they were on fire but the local Tories couldn't do any worse than the current bunch of corrupt liars. They'll probably get this left winger's vote.
A third of union members vote Conservative. The overwhelming majority of union members are good hardworking people who want to be responsible so in many ways it's stranger the figure's not higher. It's just the absurd left wing rhetoric of the union bosses (on their £100,000 + per year) that give unions a bad name.
[quote][p][bold]Emperor Palpatine[/bold] wrote: I'd never vote Tory at a General Election, as a Trade Unionist and a moderate left winger I don't like what they stand for. But a Tory local council I would have no problem with. They know the value of money, tend to keep council tax bills down, are not anti motorist and don't tend to waste money on Politically Correct vanity projects. Alexander, Merritt and Semlyn have ensured that I will never vote Labour in a local election again, neither have I forgotten the arrogance of Galloway and the Lib Dems. I wouldn't p*ss on Cameron and Osborne if they were on fire but the local Tories couldn't do any worse than the current bunch of corrupt liars. They'll probably get this left winger's vote.[/p][/quote]A third of union members vote Conservative. The overwhelming majority of union members are good hardworking people who want to be responsible so in many ways it's stranger the figure's not higher. It's just the absurd left wing rhetoric of the union bosses (on their £100,000 + per year) that give unions a bad name. Micklegate
  • Score: 23

8:24am Wed 9 Jul 14

nearlyman says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
nearlyman wrote:
oi oi savaloy wrote:
I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP
......and by doing this you show the reason why these idiots have every chance of retaining power. If you really want rid, then you have to vote for the most likely candidate to beat them...........and that is not ukip.
Well the general feeling i get at work is all the (ex) staunch Labour supporter's are turning to UKIP (me included).. and they all stood by their word at the current euro elections AND lots were saying it wasn't a protest vote.
....................
.In which case its very interesting what you report !

People of the left turning to a party which is to the right of the Tories !..............why ?...............mayb
e its a little like all the people who used to vote Lib Dem thinking that they were slotted somewhere in the middle ground, when in reality some of their policies put them to the left of Labour. Now, because they seized their moment of fame they are perceived to have moved to the right and appear to be in line for a routing at the next General. What will be most interesting is to see whether or not this forum is just a little bubble im York or representative of something seismic ! Time will tell !!
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP[/p][/quote]......and by doing this you show the reason why these idiots have every chance of retaining power. If you really want rid, then you have to vote for the most likely candidate to beat them...........and that is not ukip.[/p][/quote]Well the general feeling i get at work is all the (ex) staunch Labour supporter's are turning to UKIP (me included).. and they all stood by their word at the current euro elections AND lots were saying it wasn't a protest vote.[/p][/quote].................... .In which case its very interesting what you report ! People of the left turning to a party which is to the right of the Tories !..............why ?...............mayb e its a little like all the people who used to vote Lib Dem thinking that they were slotted somewhere in the middle ground, when in reality some of their policies put them to the left of Labour. Now, because they seized their moment of fame they are perceived to have moved to the right and appear to be in line for a routing at the next General. What will be most interesting is to see whether or not this forum is just a little bubble im York or representative of something seismic ! Time will tell !! nearlyman
  • Score: 4

8:32am Wed 9 Jul 14

julia brica says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
Tut tut tut, politics, eh?
Nasty nasty nasty.
You can't trust 'em. Any of 'em.

If my child said to me "Hey dad, I think I'm gonna get into politics and stuff" I think I'd be like - "Yeah that's cool, but hey have you seen this? It's called crack and you can smoke it in a pipe and if I'm honest it will do you less harm that politics and all the people you meet who are involved in crack will be nicer and more reliable and trustworthy than any of those you will meet who are involved with politics.



PS 2015 is too late, ANNA SEMLYEN. How have you even made it this far?
Well said Buzz, not often I agree with you but on this occasion Yes.
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Tut tut tut, politics, eh? Nasty nasty nasty. You can't trust 'em. Any of 'em. If my child said to me "Hey dad, I think I'm gonna get into politics and stuff" I think I'd be like - "Yeah that's cool, but hey have you seen this? It's called crack and you can smoke it in a pipe and if I'm honest it will do you less harm that politics and all the people you meet who are involved in crack will be nicer and more reliable and trustworthy than any of those you will meet who are involved with politics. PS 2015 is too late, ANNA SEMLYEN. How have you even made it this far?[/p][/quote]Well said Buzz, not often I agree with you but on this occasion Yes. julia brica
  • Score: 9

8:37am Wed 9 Jul 14

oldgoat says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP
Changing the faces in a hurry before the next elections doesn't change what you did, folks.
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: I cannot wait to see the back of this labour group! Ex labour gonna vote UKIP[/p][/quote]Changing the faces in a hurry before the next elections doesn't change what you did, folks. oldgoat
  • Score: 16

8:54am Wed 9 Jul 14

Badgers Drift says...

julia brica wrote:
Buzzz Light-year wrote: Tut tut tut, politics, eh? Nasty nasty nasty. You can't trust 'em. Any of 'em. If my child said to me "Hey dad, I think I'm gonna get into politics and stuff" I think I'd be like - "Yeah that's cool, but hey have you seen this? It's called crack and you can smoke it in a pipe and if I'm honest it will do you less harm that politics and all the people you meet who are involved in crack will be nicer and more reliable and trustworthy than any of those you will meet who are involved with politics. PS 2015 is too late, ANNA SEMLYEN. How have you even made it this far?
Well said Buzz, not often I agree with you but on this occasion Yes.
Me too :-)
[quote][p][bold]julia brica[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Tut tut tut, politics, eh? Nasty nasty nasty. You can't trust 'em. Any of 'em. If my child said to me "Hey dad, I think I'm gonna get into politics and stuff" I think I'd be like - "Yeah that's cool, but hey have you seen this? It's called crack and you can smoke it in a pipe and if I'm honest it will do you less harm that politics and all the people you meet who are involved in crack will be nicer and more reliable and trustworthy than any of those you will meet who are involved with politics. PS 2015 is too late, ANNA SEMLYEN. How have you even made it this far?[/p][/quote]Well said Buzz, not often I agree with you but on this occasion Yes.[/p][/quote]Me too :-) Badgers Drift
  • Score: 8

12:03pm Wed 9 Jul 14

jumpersforgoalposts says...

good news for the children of York, now they might have a chance for selection if there is another visit by the queen to meet her and present her with flowers, last time I think both were grandchildren of the same CoY councillor! abusing their positions is just embedded into their psyche.
good news for the children of York, now they might have a chance for selection if there is another visit by the queen to meet her and present her with flowers, last time I think both were grandchildren of the same CoY councillor! abusing their positions is just embedded into their psyche. jumpersforgoalposts
  • Score: 6

12:46pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Badgers Drift says...

jumpersforgoalposts wrote:
good news for the children of York, now they might have a chance for selection if there is another visit by the queen to meet her and present her with flowers, last time I think both were grandchildren of the same CoY councillor! abusing their positions is just embedded into their psyche.
Who was the councillor?

Presume it was on of the five who are standing down?
[quote][p][bold]jumpersforgoalposts[/bold] wrote: good news for the children of York, now they might have a chance for selection if there is another visit by the queen to meet her and present her with flowers, last time I think both were grandchildren of the same CoY councillor! abusing their positions is just embedded into their psyche.[/p][/quote]Who was the councillor? Presume it was on of the five who are standing down? Badgers Drift
  • Score: 1

4:03pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Dave Taylor says...

andylaw3107 wrote:
Frodo Baggins wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
Hahahahahah!

They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander?

Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands!
Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?
You do realise there are other options?

----

Whilst my allegiance lies with the Green Party, it will be a shame to lose Cllr Fitzpatrick - my experience of working with her has been wholly positive, and she quickly became a good friend.

She has been committed and dedicated to serving the people she represents and particularly hands on in engaging with and supporting York's underlying diversity, which is how I came to know her. She is certainly someone who has been involved in local politics for all the right reasons.
Well said Andy Law. There are decent Councillors in all parties, and there are people only in it for self-aggrandisement, and the worst of all are the party apparatchiks. Cllr Fitzpatrick made a positive contribution.
[quote][p][bold]andylaw3107[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Frodo Baggins[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: Hahahahahah! They know the writing is on the wall. Better to jump than be pushed...you reading this Alexander? Semlyn, I would not worry about your work life balance, something tells me you and all your colleagues will have much more spare time on your hands![/p][/quote]Do you want the Tories or the Lib Dems back in? Genuine question as most on here seem to want Labour out and after the disaster of Waller & Co. I can only presume the Conservatives are going to get your votes?[/p][/quote]You do realise there are other options? ---- Whilst my allegiance lies with the Green Party, it will be a shame to lose Cllr Fitzpatrick - my experience of working with her has been wholly positive, and she quickly became a good friend. She has been committed and dedicated to serving the people she represents and particularly hands on in engaging with and supporting York's underlying diversity, which is how I came to know her. She is certainly someone who has been involved in local politics for all the right reasons.[/p][/quote]Well said Andy Law. There are decent Councillors in all parties, and there are people only in it for self-aggrandisement, and the worst of all are the party apparatchiks. Cllr Fitzpatrick made a positive contribution. Dave Taylor
  • Score: 11

9:13pm Wed 9 Jul 14

MorkofYork says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
So Cllr Anna Slimylyen got what she wanted and has been paid for by 20s plenty, and is now retiring.
I bet the residents who elected her are really grateful !
Nice first post. First thing i thought when i found out she wasn't standing again.
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: So Cllr Anna Slimylyen got what she wanted and has been paid for by 20s plenty, and is now retiring. I bet the residents who elected her are really grateful ![/p][/quote]Nice first post. First thing i thought when i found out she wasn't standing again. MorkofYork
  • Score: 3

9:26pm Wed 9 Jul 14

strangebuttrue? says...

I see the score adjuster has awakened.
I see the score adjuster has awakened. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 3

10:52pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Silver says...

I will actually miss some of the labour councillors to stand down, they did their best against a tide of weasels. Although I'm not saddened by the loss of Cllr Semlyen, I am a labour voter and my votes have been for those on the left. I cannot vote UKIP in the fact that they are too new and need to be tested for them to earn my vote. So I'm in a harsh place do I trust the devil I know that really messed up my newfound home city since I moved here or the devil that was mildly annoying and vote for the Lib Dems. They made mistakes but their mistakes were so less damaging then Labour. I never needed to sign a public protest against the sale of Union Terrace car park or anything like that with them. FYI any of the Labour party reading this we all did the maths. The money you'd have made by selling it then you've made by now. We the public know this fact so don't treat us like idiots.
I will actually miss some of the labour councillors to stand down, they did their best against a tide of weasels. Although I'm not saddened by the loss of Cllr Semlyen, I am a labour voter and my votes have been for those on the left. I cannot vote UKIP in the fact that they are too new and need to be tested for them to earn my vote. So I'm in a harsh place do I trust the devil I know that really messed up my newfound home city since I moved here or the devil that was mildly annoying and vote for the Lib Dems. They made mistakes but their mistakes were so less damaging then Labour. I never needed to sign a public protest against the sale of Union Terrace car park or anything like that with them. FYI any of the Labour party reading this we all did the maths. The money you'd have made by selling it then you've made by now. We the public know this fact so don't treat us like idiots. Silver
  • Score: 0

1:50pm Fri 11 Jul 14

the original Homer says...

I'd like to see all 5 of these Councilors stand for election as independents.

One because I'd like to see her humiliated, and the other four because I think they would win and would do a good job.

I think most local authorities would function better if all or at least a majority of the councilors were independent. Most of those belonging to the main parties only get in because people simply vote as if it's a general election. Then, when they do get voted in, most just play follow my leader. The genuine hardworking councilors (like 4 of these 5) can't be heard for all the puppets.
I'd like to see all 5 of these Councilors stand for election as independents. One because I'd like to see her humiliated, and the other four because I think they would win and would do a good job. I think most local authorities would function better if all or at least a majority of the councilors were independent. Most of those belonging to the main parties only get in because people simply vote as if it's a general election. Then, when they do get voted in, most just play follow my leader. The genuine hardworking councilors (like 4 of these 5) can't be heard for all the puppets. the original Homer
  • Score: 0
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