Widespread use of 'spy car' to be banned

York parking 'spy car' to be banned - city leaders examining options

York parking 'spy car' to be banned - city leaders examining options

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PARKING bosses in York say they are examining new rules closely, after the Government announced it was banning the controversial widespread use of the city's camera car.

The CCTV car in York was launched to crack down on irresponsible parking near schools, but came under fire when it was found to have been used to tackle other motorists nowhere near schools. Local traders claimed the vehicle's driver was "lying in wait" and issuing fines for offences which lasted as little as a minute.

Following three months of nationwide consultation, the Government said nine million parking fines were issued every year by "over-zealous" English councils.

On Saturday it announced that while authorities will still be able to use the cameras near schools, bus lanes and bus stops, traffic wardens will now have to be used to fix penalty notices to windscreens.

The changes were announced by Communities Secretary Eric Pickles, who said the vehicles were a "clear abuse of CCTV".

Councillor Janet Looker, City of York Council's cabinet member for education, children and young people, said the council had introduced the CCTV vehicle after calls from all parties.

She said: "Use of the camera car to improve safety outside schools was recommended by a cross-party scrutiny review. We listened to these calls and acted. As the school-run obviously covers a limited part of the day, to make the scheme viable the car has been used to also enforce the law in other areas. This is exactly what councils like Tory-led Bournemouth and Lib Dem-led Bath have done.

"We find it odd that the Conservative-Lib Dem Government says this is an acceptable way to enforce the law outside schools but not an acceptable way to enforce the law elsewhere, and will be looking at these new regulations closely to establish whether we are still able to use the car to respond to residents' concerns about inconsiderate and dangerous parking."

Mr Pickles said: "Over-zealous parking enforcement and unreasonable stealth fines by post undermine the high street, push up the cost of living and cost local authorities more in the long term.

"CCTV spy cars can be seen lurking on every street raking in cash for greedy councils and breaking the rules that clearly state that fines should not be used to generate profit for town halls."

 

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9:46am Mon 23 Jun 14

pedalling paul says...

Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............
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Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ . pedalling paul
  • Score: -18

9:55am Mon 23 Jun 14

Cheeky face says...

The safety car has a purpose. But currently that is not sensibly followed. Around schools, hospitals, nursing homes etc it is simple; it needs the van in those localities. Elsewhere to maximum van/driver's time it needs to be used following a consensus of priorities from all road users. Targetting the obstruction of pavements; parking too near a road junction (Highway Code 243),are of a higher priority than being a little over-zealous at Murton, and Garden Place. Bus operators could give the council ideas also.
If the really want to collect money easily why have they not caught all vehicle registered keepers who park on the wrong side of the road?

Can the council look into expanding it's vision on the use of the safety car.
Once they have set their highest priorities then it would be reasonable for those to then be itemised on the council's own web-site, and in the resident's literature/leaflets.
The safety car has a purpose. But currently that is not sensibly followed. Around schools, hospitals, nursing homes etc it is simple; it needs the van in those localities. Elsewhere to maximum van/driver's time it needs to be used following a consensus of priorities from all road users. Targetting the obstruction of pavements; parking too near a road junction (Highway Code 243),are of a higher priority than being a little over-zealous at Murton, and Garden Place. Bus operators could give the council ideas also. If the really want to collect money easily why have they not caught all vehicle registered keepers who park on the wrong side of the road? Can the council look into expanding it's vision on the use of the safety car. Once they have set their highest priorities then it would be reasonable for those to then be itemised on the council's own web-site, and in the resident's literature/leaflets. Cheeky face
  • Score: 19

10:00am Mon 23 Jun 14

BL2 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............

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Roll on the day when you stop spouting rubbish...
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Roll on the day when you stop spouting rubbish... BL2
  • Score: -6

10:04am Mon 23 Jun 14

Cheeky face says...

Agreed Paul. Perhaps extending my earlier views the council could ask all the emergency services people to give their views on the van's use. Risk assessments are not new, they are with us all and findings on all risk assessments MUST have include a view on access via our roads/pavements in emergency situations.

The council's job is to have free flowing traffic, a safe access for the emergency services, and a camera van use that the residents, businesses, and visitors understand to be acceptable.
Agreed Paul. Perhaps extending my earlier views the council could ask all the emergency services people to give their views on the van's use. Risk assessments are not new, they are with us all and findings on all risk assessments MUST have include a view on access via our roads/pavements in emergency situations. The council's job is to have free flowing traffic, a safe access for the emergency services, and a camera van use that the residents, businesses, and visitors understand to be acceptable. Cheeky face
  • Score: 13

10:10am Mon 23 Jun 14

Woody G Mellor says...

Cheeky face wrote:
Agreed Paul. Perhaps extending my earlier views the council could ask all the emergency services people to give their views on the van's use. Risk assessments are not new, they are with us all and findings on all risk assessments MUST have include a view on access via our roads/pavements in emergency situations.

The council's job is to have free flowing traffic, a safe access for the emergency services, and a camera van use that the residents, businesses, and visitors understand to be acceptable.
Yeah right! There used to be dozens of houses burning down and emergency vehicles hindered around York before the spy van was in operation and fining people for pulling over for less than 60 seconds, wasn't there?..........erm.
....NOPE.
[quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: Agreed Paul. Perhaps extending my earlier views the council could ask all the emergency services people to give their views on the van's use. Risk assessments are not new, they are with us all and findings on all risk assessments MUST have include a view on access via our roads/pavements in emergency situations. The council's job is to have free flowing traffic, a safe access for the emergency services, and a camera van use that the residents, businesses, and visitors understand to be acceptable.[/p][/quote]Yeah right! There used to be dozens of houses burning down and emergency vehicles hindered around York before the spy van was in operation and fining people for pulling over for less than 60 seconds, wasn't there?..........erm. ....NOPE. Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -10

10:26am Mon 23 Jun 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............

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"Roll on the day", you sir are a first class moron.

You wish ill fortune on people because the camera van brought in to improve safety outside schools has been restricted to doing exactly that.

Please feel free to check my grammar because that is all you can do, then crawl back under your stone.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]"Roll on the day", you sir are a first class moron. You wish ill fortune on people because the camera van brought in to improve safety outside schools has been restricted to doing exactly that. Please feel free to check my grammar because that is all you can do, then crawl back under your stone. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -7

10:35am Mon 23 Jun 14

Dave Ruddock says...

well if some people in here like to visit the city center they will find its Delivery Drivers (of all kinds) that cause the biggest headaches, parking at junctions, blocking streets and pavements on double yellow lines and not a police person or any form of official person, not even a traffic warden. As for the city council vehicle, i think enough people have found that it has caused more issues than its solved, rename it as ALEXANDERS and MERRITS CASH COW WAGON.. hO and the council strapped for cash (cost of vehicle, tax, insurance, repairs and maintenance,and cost of vehicle operator £10,000 plus. TAX PAYERS MONEY...
well if some people in here like to visit the city center they will find its Delivery Drivers (of all kinds) that cause the biggest headaches, parking at junctions, blocking streets and pavements on double yellow lines and not a police person or any form of official person, not even a traffic warden. As for the city council vehicle, i think enough people have found that it has caused more issues than its solved, rename it as ALEXANDERS and MERRITS CASH COW WAGON.. hO and the council strapped for cash (cost of vehicle, tax, insurance, repairs and maintenance,and cost of vehicle operator £10,000 plus. TAX PAYERS MONEY... Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -11

10:37am Mon 23 Jun 14

Warren Z says...

The council have said that only fining folk for stopping near schools etc was not viable financially, so they took to fining all and sundry, this is now not legal.
Logically the van is now not viable. Maybe it could be loaded with tarmac and the camera parking police can fill in some potholes.
The council have said that only fining folk for stopping near schools etc was not viable financially, so they took to fining all and sundry, this is now not legal. Logically the van is now not viable. Maybe it could be loaded with tarmac and the camera parking police can fill in some potholes. Warren Z
  • Score: -9

10:54am Mon 23 Jun 14

pedalling paul says...

My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......
My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today....... pedalling paul
  • Score: 9

10:57am Mon 23 Jun 14

thinkingoutsidethebox says...

where there is a controversy you can surely guarantee that our dopey council is never far away..............
where there is a controversy you can surely guarantee that our dopey council is never far away.............. thinkingoutsidethebox
  • Score: -38

11:00am Mon 23 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............

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Don't be silly pp, your over egging the pudding as usual, keep the spy camera for what it was supposed to be used for and not as a 'cash cow', this council always finds ways of punitively punishing those who use cars, I support Eric Pickles all the way in what he has done, you're all like children that are upset because you can't play with your ball outside garden confines.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Don't be silly pp, your over egging the pudding as usual, keep the spy camera for what it was supposed to be used for and not as a 'cash cow', this council always finds ways of punitively punishing those who use cars, I support Eric Pickles all the way in what he has done, you're all like children that are upset because you can't play with your ball outside garden confines. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -45

11:02am Mon 23 Jun 14

Cheeky face says...

Agreed . Fire engines can bulldoze their way past/over cars. Sadly, ambulances cannot. Paul gave an example only- but it could have been a better one.

I merely want a sensible use of the van to ease traffic flow. If it means fining delivery drivers who please themselves then they should be clobbered; unfortunately costs of fines for delivery etc is passed on to customers in costs.

Use the car to tour the localities and have a passenger to note traffic lights that need re-timing, really stupid parking etc. Some streets have cars partly on the pavements not allowing invalid carriages by. The van use needs a strategy that we understand as being fair- and if the council can't do that then they need replacing.
Agreed . Fire engines can bulldoze their way past/over cars. Sadly, ambulances cannot. Paul gave an example only- but it could have been a better one. I merely want a sensible use of the van to ease traffic flow. If it means fining delivery drivers who please themselves then they should be clobbered; unfortunately costs of fines for delivery etc is passed on to customers in costs. Use the car to tour the localities and have a passenger to note traffic lights that need re-timing, really stupid parking etc. Some streets have cars partly on the pavements not allowing invalid carriages by. The van use needs a strategy that we understand as being fair- and if the council can't do that then they need replacing. Cheeky face
  • Score: 11

11:03am Mon 23 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

pedalling paul wrote:
My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......
Is it on the top of your head then?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......[/p][/quote]Is it on the top of your head then? notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -28

11:11am Mon 23 Jun 14

York1900 says...

RH Eric Pickles MP is only doing this to get those drivers who park illegally to vote for the Tories at the next election and put more pressure on councils over council tax and services councils provide

When you look at the whole changes parking that RH Eric Pickles MP is putting throw councils are going to suffer and council tax payers
councils are going to have to employ more traffic wardens or give up enforcing parking altogether as one of the other changes will include a 25% cut on you parking find if you lose your appeal

To me this smacks at giving the bad drivers free rain to brake the law and push the costs on to the law abiding drivers and the council tax payers


Lincolnshire parking ticket revenue the second highest outside London last year a concretive lead council

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RH Eric Pickles MP is only doing this to get those drivers who park illegally to vote for the Tories at the next election and put more pressure on councils over council tax and services councils provide When you look at the whole changes parking that RH Eric Pickles MP is putting throw councils are going to suffer and council tax payers councils are going to have to employ more traffic wardens or give up enforcing parking altogether as one of the other changes will include a 25% cut on you parking find if you lose your appeal To me this smacks at giving the bad drivers free rain to brake the law and push the costs on to the law abiding drivers and the council tax payers Lincolnshire parking ticket revenue the second highest outside London last year a concretive lead council Read more: http://www.grimsbyte legraph.co.uk/Lincol nshire-parking-ticke t-revenue-second/sto ry-20959940-detail/s tory.html#ixzz35SEaf rE2 York1900
  • Score: 16

11:14am Mon 23 Jun 14

eeoodares says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............

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What a silly man you are, name three occasions in 50 years where an illegally parked car has caused a house to be burned down in York!

It is not an issue, what is an issue is over zealous council officials imposing reasonable laws in an unreasonable way in order to raise revenue.

The sooner you and your colleagues are voted out the better!
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]What a silly man you are, name three occasions in 50 years where an illegally parked car has caused a house to be burned down in York! It is not an issue, what is an issue is over zealous council officials imposing reasonable laws in an unreasonable way in order to raise revenue. The sooner you and your colleagues are voted out the better! eeoodares
  • Score: -12

11:15am Mon 23 Jun 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

Only CYC could spend thousands on a camera car that at the time of purchase its future was already in doubt.
Only CYC could spend thousands on a camera car that at the time of purchase its future was already in doubt. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -12

11:23am Mon 23 Jun 14

smudge2 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......
Are you winding York residents up again Mr Paul Hepworth with your connections in the Press and York council. When will you learn ??
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......[/p][/quote]Are you winding York residents up again Mr Paul Hepworth with your connections in the Press and York council. When will you learn ?? smudge2
  • Score: -8

11:41am Mon 23 Jun 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

pedalling paul wrote:
My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......
There is nothing sweeter than watching a fool attempt to justify stupidity with claims of planned intention.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......[/p][/quote]There is nothing sweeter than watching a fool attempt to justify stupidity with claims of planned intention. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -8

11:56am Mon 23 Jun 14

JHardacre says...

Perhaps CYC could examine why cars with disabled badge are allowed to park on double yellow lines and similar 'parking restricted' areas. Their vehicles cause just as much of an obstruction as those without the badge. Anyone would think that the blue badge acts in the same way as Happy Potter's invisibility cloak.
Perhaps CYC could examine why cars with disabled badge are allowed to park on double yellow lines and similar 'parking restricted' areas. Their vehicles cause just as much of an obstruction as those without the badge. Anyone would think that the blue badge acts in the same way as Happy Potter's invisibility cloak. JHardacre
  • Score: 24

11:57am Mon 23 Jun 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

Excellent news! It’s been a good start to the year for us..... First lendal & coppergate was illegal and fines will have to be paid back and now this! class... I said from the start its borderline illegal and was just a cash cow...

So what scheme will be next? I’m going to go for undercover council ops dressed as 20mph signs with a speed gun... then when that backfires when its proved that they can not legally be enforced the remaining budget left over from failed money making schemes will be gambled on a 50-1 shot called lendal bridge (real horse).....
Excellent news! It’s been a good start to the year for us..... First lendal & coppergate was illegal and fines will have to be paid back and now this! class... I said from the start its borderline illegal and was just a cash cow... So what scheme will be next? I’m going to go for undercover council ops dressed as 20mph signs with a speed gun... then when that backfires when its proved that they can not legally be enforced the remaining budget left over from failed money making schemes will be gambled on a 50-1 shot called lendal bridge (real horse)..... Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -14

12:56pm Mon 23 Jun 14

ouseswimmer says...

I've seen the van driving through the city centre filming as it goes.
I've seen the van driving through the city centre filming as it goes. ouseswimmer
  • Score: 15

1:41pm Mon 23 Jun 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

When Little Jimmy Alexander finally leaves office I wonder if he will have to do a Gordon Brown and write a note saying that there is no money left?
When Little Jimmy Alexander finally leaves office I wonder if he will have to do a Gordon Brown and write a note saying that there is no money left? NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -29

2:12pm Mon 23 Jun 14

jay, york says...

pedalling paul wrote:
My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......
Is that really how you see yourself? Someone who makes a comment that gets noticed and gets people commenting - "ooh I've lit a blue touch paper"? You have totally lost the plot. The reality of it is that you talk a load of senseless drivel, spout the same old catchphrases again and again, and just get even more pathetic. - pathetic paul. I know you find it hard to understand the written word, but if you read all the comments properly and look at all the negative marks against t you, you may just see that this is exactly what people are saying about you - pathetic paul.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......[/p][/quote]Is that really how you see yourself? Someone who makes a comment that gets noticed and gets people commenting - "ooh I've lit a blue touch paper"? You have totally lost the plot. The reality of it is that you talk a load of senseless drivel, spout the same old catchphrases again and again, and just get even more pathetic. - pathetic paul. I know you find it hard to understand the written word, but if you read all the comments properly and look at all the negative marks against t you, you may just see that this is exactly what people are saying about you - pathetic paul. jay, york
  • Score: -10

2:23pm Mon 23 Jun 14

jay, york says...

York1900 wrote:
RH Eric Pickles MP is only doing this to get those drivers who park illegally to vote for the Tories at the next election and put more pressure on councils over council tax and services councils provide When you look at the whole changes parking that RH Eric Pickles MP is putting throw councils are going to suffer and council tax payers councils are going to have to employ more traffic wardens or give up enforcing parking altogether as one of the other changes will include a 25% cut on you parking find if you lose your appeal To me this smacks at giving the bad drivers free rain to brake the law and push the costs on to the law abiding drivers and the council tax payers Lincolnshire parking ticket revenue the second highest outside London last year a concretive lead council Read more: http://www.grimsbyte legraph.co.uk/Lincol nshire-parking-ticke t-revenue-second/sto ry-20959940-detail/s tory.html#ixzz35SEaf rE2
Do you really think that a top Government official has time to think of ways to get drivers who park illegally to vote for them at the next election?
The reality of this is that this greedy labour council saw another cash cow appear to replace the failure of the Lendal Bridge trial. Like other councils who they have decided to follow ("they have got away with it, so can we") - they have been rumbled (as they all have) and been called greedy, unfair to motorists and using unproportional measures for traffic enforecement.
The only reason that councils struggle is that they are unable to do their job properly.
[quote][p][bold]York1900[/bold] wrote: RH Eric Pickles MP is only doing this to get those drivers who park illegally to vote for the Tories at the next election and put more pressure on councils over council tax and services councils provide When you look at the whole changes parking that RH Eric Pickles MP is putting throw councils are going to suffer and council tax payers councils are going to have to employ more traffic wardens or give up enforcing parking altogether as one of the other changes will include a 25% cut on you parking find if you lose your appeal To me this smacks at giving the bad drivers free rain to brake the law and push the costs on to the law abiding drivers and the council tax payers Lincolnshire parking ticket revenue the second highest outside London last year a concretive lead council Read more: http://www.grimsbyte legraph.co.uk/Lincol nshire-parking-ticke t-revenue-second/sto ry-20959940-detail/s tory.html#ixzz35SEaf rE2[/p][/quote]Do you really think that a top Government official has time to think of ways to get drivers who park illegally to vote for them at the next election? The reality of this is that this greedy labour council saw another cash cow appear to replace the failure of the Lendal Bridge trial. Like other councils who they have decided to follow ("they have got away with it, so can we") - they have been rumbled (as they all have) and been called greedy, unfair to motorists and using unproportional measures for traffic enforecement. The only reason that councils struggle is that they are unable to do their job properly. jay, york
  • Score: -15

3:02pm Mon 23 Jun 14

piaggio1 says...

Remember seeing it on A63 at cliffe.dint know the clowncil had influance for schools that far out.
Remember seeing it on A63 at cliffe.dint know the clowncil had influance for schools that far out. piaggio1
  • Score: -16

3:24pm Mon 23 Jun 14

krites says...

JHardacre wrote:
Perhaps CYC could examine why cars with disabled badge are allowed to park on double yellow lines and similar 'parking restricted' areas. Their vehicles cause just as much of an obstruction as those without the badge. Anyone would think that the blue badge acts in the same way as Happy Potter's invisibility cloak.
Especially those that park on the double yellow lines in "T" dead ends that are clearly meant to allow vehicles to reverse to turn, also those who happily park on double yellow lines for more than three hours apparently whilst they go to work.

But what do double yellow lines mean in the centre of York? Do they mean parking could be dangerous, or do they just mean that parking is untidy? If the former, then why is Goodramgate lined with blue-badge cars every day as if the real meaning of the yellow lines was simply "This is a Parking Area for the Disabled"?
[quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: Perhaps CYC could examine why cars with disabled badge are allowed to park on double yellow lines and similar 'parking restricted' areas. Their vehicles cause just as much of an obstruction as those without the badge. Anyone would think that the blue badge acts in the same way as Happy Potter's invisibility cloak.[/p][/quote]Especially those that park on the double yellow lines in "T" dead ends that are clearly meant to allow vehicles to reverse to turn, also those who happily park on double yellow lines for more than three hours apparently whilst they go to work. But what do double yellow lines mean in the centre of York? Do they mean parking could be dangerous, or do they just mean that parking is untidy? If the former, then why is Goodramgate lined with blue-badge cars every day as if the real meaning of the yellow lines was simply "This is a Parking Area for the Disabled"? krites
  • Score: 12

3:39pm Mon 23 Jun 14

YorkPatrol says...

pedalling paul wrote:
My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......
You'd be touching cloth if some of these commenter’s got hold of you
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......[/p][/quote]You'd be touching cloth if some of these commenter’s got hold of you YorkPatrol
  • Score: -11

4:16pm Mon 23 Jun 14

JasBro says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............

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What a stupid and offensive thing to say.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]What a stupid and offensive thing to say. JasBro
  • Score: -11

5:41pm Mon 23 Jun 14

JasBro says...

Well the anti-car brigade are really throwing their toys out of the pram here.

I guess it's understandable after the failure of the Clifton Green cycle lane, the Lendal Bridge fiasco, and now this.

You'd think they'd be content with all the extra congestion and pollution their favoured policies have created, and the extra deaths that has caused, but no. Now they want to see people's houses burned and their cars smashed up.

Such lovely, well adjusted and moderate people.
Well the anti-car brigade are really throwing their toys out of the pram here. I guess it's understandable after the failure of the Clifton Green cycle lane, the Lendal Bridge fiasco, and now this. You'd think they'd be content with all the extra congestion and pollution their favoured policies have created, and the extra deaths that has caused, but no. Now they want to see people's houses burned and their cars smashed up. Such lovely, well adjusted and moderate people. JasBro
  • Score: -31

5:48pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Sillybillies says...

Before it is banned can it go around the estates both council and private and do all those with cars parked on the pavement, on grass verges, and obstructing fire engines etc, please?
Before it is banned can it go around the estates both council and private and do all those with cars parked on the pavement, on grass verges, and obstructing fire engines etc, please? Sillybillies
  • Score: 13

5:52pm Mon 23 Jun 14

MorkofYork says...

Ahhhh, discrimination, greed, and failure. A Labour special !
Ahhhh, discrimination, greed, and failure. A Labour special ! MorkofYork
  • Score: -10

6:27pm Mon 23 Jun 14

only human says...

I was stung for a fine from this stealth tax vehicle and i had barely come to a stop in garden place,i was dropping my daughter off where i have dropped her off umpteen times before and as i pulled up to the side i noticed the restrictions had changed but as i glanced in my mirror to check it was clear to pull away i noticed the van approaching from behind and the rest is history.They must literally drive around in circles clocking everything that is static for 5 seconds.The odd thing was mine was the only vehicle in the road and it was mid evening.
Whilst i agree that something needs to be done to disuade ignorant motorists from obstrucing schools hospitals and other key risk areas i dont believe for one second that garden street as a drop off pick up point is a hazzard.
Stealth tax York
I was stung for a fine from this stealth tax vehicle and i had barely come to a stop in garden place,i was dropping my daughter off where i have dropped her off umpteen times before and as i pulled up to the side i noticed the restrictions had changed but as i glanced in my mirror to check it was clear to pull away i noticed the van approaching from behind and the rest is history.They must literally drive around in circles clocking everything that is static for 5 seconds.The odd thing was mine was the only vehicle in the road and it was mid evening. Whilst i agree that something needs to be done to disuade ignorant motorists from obstrucing schools hospitals and other key risk areas i dont believe for one second that garden street as a drop off pick up point is a hazzard. Stealth tax York only human
  • Score: -12

6:46pm Mon 23 Jun 14

deckhanddave says...

Is that Pedalling Paul or Piddling Paul? Seems like a load of dribble spouted from that direction. Where did the disabled blue badge bashers come from too? Some days I just wanna barf!
If you want a good use for the car here's a couple of suggestions
1) Fill it with petrol, put Alexander and his fave 4 cronies in it and ask them to see how far they can drive on one tank in one direction, preferably south. Then destroy the Dartford tunnel so they can't come back. Yeah I know there are other routes but it's wishful thinking anyway.
2) Use it to gather evidence of problem parking areas reported by residents so appropriate action can be taken.
Is that Pedalling Paul or Piddling Paul? Seems like a load of dribble spouted from that direction. Where did the disabled blue badge bashers come from too? Some days I just wanna barf! If you want a good use for the car here's a couple of suggestions 1) Fill it with petrol, put Alexander and his fave 4 cronies in it and ask them to see how far they can drive on one tank in one direction, preferably south. Then destroy the Dartford tunnel so they can't come back. Yeah I know there are other routes but it's wishful thinking anyway. 2) Use it to gather evidence of problem parking areas reported by residents so appropriate action can be taken. deckhanddave
  • Score: -11

7:10pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Cheeky face says...

I see deckhanddave has many views similar to mine. This camera van can best be used to sort out really bad issues. What about bad cycling, litter dropping, faulty brake lights, red light jumping etc.

Garden Place mid-evening is not an area, I believe, of a safety or a residents concern.

My comments from early this morning are still valid I think.

Has any York resident used FOI to ask how many fines have been handed to registered keepers for parking near schools?
I see deckhanddave has many views similar to mine. This camera van can best be used to sort out really bad issues. What about bad cycling, litter dropping, faulty brake lights, red light jumping etc. Garden Place mid-evening is not an area, I believe, of a safety or a residents concern. My comments from early this morning are still valid I think. Has any York resident used FOI to ask how many fines have been handed to registered keepers for parking near schools? Cheeky face
  • Score: 10

7:33pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Dr Brian says...

pedalling paul wrote:
My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......
But Paul It was an insensitive post you were almost wishing harm on people.

Many on here do not like your self righteous attitude but I doubt many would want you to fall off your bike and injure yourself!

You really cannot see what a sad individual that you are. Get a life mate!
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......[/p][/quote]But Paul It was an insensitive post you were almost wishing harm on people. Many on here do not like your self righteous attitude but I doubt many would want you to fall off your bike and injure yourself! You really cannot see what a sad individual that you are. Get a life mate! Dr Brian
  • Score: -13

8:25pm Mon 23 Jun 14

RingoStarr says...

Pedalling Paul seems to be York's version of Tony Blair.
"Wrong? Me? NEVER!"
Pedalling Paul seems to be York's version of Tony Blair. "Wrong? Me? NEVER!" RingoStarr
  • Score: -13

9:23pm Mon 23 Jun 14

NoMorePlease says...

only human wrote:
I was stung for a fine from this stealth tax vehicle and i had barely come to a stop in garden place,i was dropping my daughter off where i have dropped her off umpteen times before and as i pulled up to the side i noticed the restrictions had changed but as i glanced in my mirror to check it was clear to pull away i noticed the van approaching from behind and the rest is history.They must literally drive around in circles clocking everything that is static for 5 seconds.The odd thing was mine was the only vehicle in the road and it was mid evening.
Whilst i agree that something needs to be done to disuade ignorant motorists from obstrucing schools hospitals and other key risk areas i dont believe for one second that garden street as a drop off pick up point is a hazzard.
Stealth tax York
I would appeal that one if you never left the car
[quote][p][bold]only human[/bold] wrote: I was stung for a fine from this stealth tax vehicle and i had barely come to a stop in garden place,i was dropping my daughter off where i have dropped her off umpteen times before and as i pulled up to the side i noticed the restrictions had changed but as i glanced in my mirror to check it was clear to pull away i noticed the van approaching from behind and the rest is history.They must literally drive around in circles clocking everything that is static for 5 seconds.The odd thing was mine was the only vehicle in the road and it was mid evening. Whilst i agree that something needs to be done to disuade ignorant motorists from obstrucing schools hospitals and other key risk areas i dont believe for one second that garden street as a drop off pick up point is a hazzard. Stealth tax York[/p][/quote]I would appeal that one if you never left the car NoMorePlease
  • Score: -12

9:49pm Mon 23 Jun 14

Bad magic says...

pedalling paul wrote:
My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......
So you freely admit you're simply a troll?
Well, I guess it had to happen. At least it shows a certain degree of self awareness. Away to /b/ with you, hope you get chewed up and spat out.

But in all honesty, do you feel you are achieving anything? You're the worst advert for an environmentally friendly, integrated transport policy I have ever experienced. If you want people to use cars less; engage with them, encourage them, advise them. Don't pontificate, overstate, accuse. I swear, I'd rather drive around in the biggest, dirtiest, most unnecessary vehicle than ever cycle here and be associated with you and your ilk.
Well done.
You're a grown man, but I swear you lurk in your own basement.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......[/p][/quote]So you freely admit you're simply a troll? Well, I guess it had to happen. At least it shows a certain degree of self awareness. Away to /b/ with you, hope you get chewed up and spat out. But in all honesty, do you feel you are achieving anything? You're the worst advert for an environmentally friendly, integrated transport policy I have ever experienced. If you want people to use cars less; engage with them, encourage them, advise them. Don't pontificate, overstate, accuse. I swear, I'd rather drive around in the biggest, dirtiest, most unnecessary vehicle than ever cycle here and be associated with you and your ilk. Well done. You're a grown man, but I swear you lurk in your own basement. Bad magic
  • Score: -10

9:49pm Mon 23 Jun 14

pault42 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............

.
Or they can't get past the bunch of Lycra Clad Loonies taking up the whole road while deaf to the world because of their earphones.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Or they can't get past the bunch of Lycra Clad Loonies taking up the whole road while deaf to the world because of their earphones. pault42
  • Score: -11

9:53pm Mon 23 Jun 14

A Resident of York says...

Cheeky face wrote:
I see deckhanddave has many views similar to mine. This camera van can best be used to sort out really bad issues. What about bad cycling, litter dropping, faulty brake lights, red light jumping etc.

Garden Place mid-evening is not an area, I believe, of a safety or a residents concern.

My comments from early this morning are still valid I think.

Has any York resident used FOI to ask how many fines have been handed to registered keepers for parking near schools?
On the morning that I caught the Camera Car operative on the phone parked on yellow lines outside a school the answer was Zero!

So either the council scrapped any of the fines that morning as they were hypocritical - or there isn't really an issue in Heslington in the first place!
[quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: I see deckhanddave has many views similar to mine. This camera van can best be used to sort out really bad issues. What about bad cycling, litter dropping, faulty brake lights, red light jumping etc. Garden Place mid-evening is not an area, I believe, of a safety or a residents concern. My comments from early this morning are still valid I think. Has any York resident used FOI to ask how many fines have been handed to registered keepers for parking near schools?[/p][/quote]On the morning that I caught the Camera Car operative on the phone parked on yellow lines outside a school the answer was Zero! So either the council scrapped any of the fines that morning as they were hypocritical - or there isn't really an issue in Heslington in the first place! A Resident of York
  • Score: -12

10:56pm Mon 23 Jun 14

smudge2 says...

smudge2 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......
Are you winding York residents up again Mr Paul Hepworth with your connections in the Press and York council. When will you learn ??
Bad comment mistake Paul.....You were warned but as usual chose to ignore the people of a York...Will you learn this time I wonder ??
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: My blue touch paper seems to be igniting some inflammatory remarks today.......[/p][/quote]Are you winding York residents up again Mr Paul Hepworth with your connections in the Press and York council. When will you learn ??[/p][/quote]Bad comment mistake Paul.....You were warned but as usual chose to ignore the people of a York...Will you learn this time I wonder ?? smudge2
  • Score: -13

12:02am Tue 24 Jun 14

jake777 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............

.
Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way.
Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way. Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed. jake777
  • Score: 15

12:04am Tue 24 Jun 14

jake777 says...

BL2 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............


.
Roll on the day when you stop spouting rubbish...
you need to get a grip Idiot.
[quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Roll on the day when you stop spouting rubbish...[/p][/quote]you need to get a grip Idiot. jake777
  • Score: 13

12:13am Tue 24 Jun 14

jake777 says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............


.
"Roll on the day", you sir are a first class moron.

You wish ill fortune on people because the camera van brought in to improve safety outside schools has been restricted to doing exactly that.

Please feel free to check my grammar because that is all you can do, then crawl back under your stone.
I see they have opened the doors again in Bootham. do wish they would keep you locked in.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]"Roll on the day", you sir are a first class moron. You wish ill fortune on people because the camera van brought in to improve safety outside schools has been restricted to doing exactly that. Please feel free to check my grammar because that is all you can do, then crawl back under your stone.[/p][/quote]I see they have opened the doors again in Bootham. do wish they would keep you locked in. jake777
  • Score: 11

12:29am Tue 24 Jun 14

jake777 says...

jay, york wrote:
York1900 wrote:
RH Eric Pickles MP is only doing this to get those drivers who park illegally to vote for the Tories at the next election and put more pressure on councils over council tax and services councils provide When you look at the whole changes parking that RH Eric Pickles MP is putting throw councils are going to suffer and council tax payers councils are going to have to employ more traffic wardens or give up enforcing parking altogether as one of the other changes will include a 25% cut on you parking find if you lose your appeal To me this smacks at giving the bad drivers free rain to brake the law and push the costs on to the law abiding drivers and the council tax payers Lincolnshire parking ticket revenue the second highest outside London last year a concretive lead council Read more: http://www.grimsbyte legraph.co.uk/Lincol nshire-parking-ticke t-revenue-second/sto ry-20959940-detail/s tory.html#ixzz35SEaf rE2
Do you really think that a top Government official has time to think of ways to get drivers who park illegally to vote for them at the next election?
The reality of this is that this greedy labour council saw another cash cow appear to replace the failure of the Lendal Bridge trial. Like other councils who they have decided to follow ("they have got away with it, so can we") - they have been rumbled (as they all have) and been called greedy, unfair to motorists and using unproportional measures for traffic enforecement.
The only reason that councils struggle is that they are unable to do their job properly.
Your so good why don't you do their job then,???
[quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]York1900[/bold] wrote: RH Eric Pickles MP is only doing this to get those drivers who park illegally to vote for the Tories at the next election and put more pressure on councils over council tax and services councils provide When you look at the whole changes parking that RH Eric Pickles MP is putting throw councils are going to suffer and council tax payers councils are going to have to employ more traffic wardens or give up enforcing parking altogether as one of the other changes will include a 25% cut on you parking find if you lose your appeal To me this smacks at giving the bad drivers free rain to brake the law and push the costs on to the law abiding drivers and the council tax payers Lincolnshire parking ticket revenue the second highest outside London last year a concretive lead council Read more: http://www.grimsbyte legraph.co.uk/Lincol nshire-parking-ticke t-revenue-second/sto ry-20959940-detail/s tory.html#ixzz35SEaf rE2[/p][/quote]Do you really think that a top Government official has time to think of ways to get drivers who park illegally to vote for them at the next election? The reality of this is that this greedy labour council saw another cash cow appear to replace the failure of the Lendal Bridge trial. Like other councils who they have decided to follow ("they have got away with it, so can we") - they have been rumbled (as they all have) and been called greedy, unfair to motorists and using unproportional measures for traffic enforecement. The only reason that councils struggle is that they are unable to do their job properly.[/p][/quote]Your so good why don't you do their job then,??? jake777
  • Score: 13

7:11am Tue 24 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

JasBro wrote:
jake777 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............



.
Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way.
Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.
It was the traffic in the middle of the road causing the obstruction, not the cars parked perfectly legally by the side of the road.

In fact it was you blocking the fire engine, wasn't it?

It's perfectly natural to feel embarrassed when you inadvertently block an emergency vehicle, but please don't try to blame everybody else.

Pedalling Paul will probably hope it was your house burning down, because you were so inconsiderate as to travel by car.
You will have to excuse jake777, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and never will be, even PP will probably cringe at his comments - entertainment value - priceless.
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way. Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.[/p][/quote]It was the traffic in the middle of the road causing the obstruction, not the cars parked perfectly legally by the side of the road. In fact it was you blocking the fire engine, wasn't it? It's perfectly natural to feel embarrassed when you inadvertently block an emergency vehicle, but please don't try to blame everybody else. Pedalling Paul will probably hope it was your house burning down, because you were so inconsiderate as to travel by car.[/p][/quote]You will have to excuse jake777, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and never will be, even PP will probably cringe at his comments - entertainment value - priceless. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -28

12:35pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Miles Davis says...

Well they will now raise the extra revenue by charging residents for the 'residents parking discount badge'! £20!! I am sue it used to be free?! Must be a ploy to push us onto the park and ride!!
Well they will now raise the extra revenue by charging residents for the 'residents parking discount badge'! £20!! I am sue it used to be free?! Must be a ploy to push us onto the park and ride!! Miles Davis
  • Score: -11

1:02pm Tue 24 Jun 14

CommonSense!! says...

JHardacre wrote:
Perhaps CYC could examine why cars with disabled badge are allowed to park on double yellow lines and similar 'parking restricted' areas. Their vehicles cause just as much of an obstruction as those without the badge. Anyone would think that the blue badge acts in the same way as Happy Potter's invisibility cloak.
Absolutely, St Andrewgate is full, despite the "Except For Access" signs on Spen Lane.
[quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: Perhaps CYC could examine why cars with disabled badge are allowed to park on double yellow lines and similar 'parking restricted' areas. Their vehicles cause just as much of an obstruction as those without the badge. Anyone would think that the blue badge acts in the same way as Happy Potter's invisibility cloak.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, St Andrewgate is full, despite the "Except For Access" signs on Spen Lane. CommonSense!!
  • Score: 14

2:37pm Tue 24 Jun 14

johnwill says...

The point the Government is making is that camera cars are catching one second in time on film and using that one second to issue fixed penalty notices, there are many reasons why someone has stopped on a double yellow, dropping off an OAP, picking up a large item from a shop etc, do they deserve a £60 - £90 fine ? no they don't.
A traffic warden always had discretion when issuing tickets and were generally considered fair, now Councils are so desperate to rake in some cash they have no conscience on how they go about it .
The point the Government is making is that camera cars are catching one second in time on film and using that one second to issue fixed penalty notices, there are many reasons why someone has stopped on a double yellow, dropping off an OAP, picking up a large item from a shop etc, do they deserve a £60 - £90 fine ? no they don't. A traffic warden always had discretion when issuing tickets and were generally considered fair, now Councils are so desperate to rake in some cash they have no conscience on how they go about it . johnwill
  • Score: -12

4:35pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Cheeky face says...

Johnwill. Understood. But double yellow lines with yellow strips on the kerb are different to double yellows without.

I agree though that the camera car driver has no common sense- a little discretion would help.

The council's policy on the camera car's use should be detailed on the web-site.
Johnwill. Understood. But double yellow lines with yellow strips on the kerb are different to double yellows without. I agree though that the camera car driver has no common sense- a little discretion would help. The council's policy on the camera car's use should be detailed on the web-site. Cheeky face
  • Score: 14

7:26pm Tue 24 Jun 14

mitch2nd says...

Lendal Bridge all over again, get rid of this useless council, out with the old and in with the new
Lendal Bridge all over again, get rid of this useless council, out with the old and in with the new mitch2nd
  • Score: -12

9:19pm Tue 24 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

jay, york wrote:
jake777 wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
pedalling paul wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .
"Roll on the day", you sir are a first class moron. You wish ill fortune on people because the camera van brought in to improve safety outside schools has been restricted to doing exactly that. Please feel free to check my grammar because that is all you can do, then crawl back under your stone.
I see they have opened the doors again in Bootham. do wish they would keep you locked in.
So little jake777 has crawled out of the woodwork again. Close competition between jakey and pp as to who is the most pathetic. But little jakey is a clear winner at being the most ignorant, nastiest and insulting person (I am being kind in using that term) to comment on this site. Is clearly unable to make any intelligent comments whatsoever.
Think you will have to wait til midnight or just after before he attempts a reply, they only plug him in for a short while, but he still manages to spout vitriolic comments as he only has very limited brain capacity.
[quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]"Roll on the day", you sir are a first class moron. You wish ill fortune on people because the camera van brought in to improve safety outside schools has been restricted to doing exactly that. Please feel free to check my grammar because that is all you can do, then crawl back under your stone.[/p][/quote]I see they have opened the doors again in Bootham. do wish they would keep you locked in.[/p][/quote]So little jake777 has crawled out of the woodwork again. Close competition between jakey and pp as to who is the most pathetic. But little jakey is a clear winner at being the most ignorant, nastiest and insulting person (I am being kind in using that term) to comment on this site. Is clearly unable to make any intelligent comments whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Think you will have to wait til midnight or just after before he attempts a reply, they only plug him in for a short while, but he still manages to spout vitriolic comments as he only has very limited brain capacity. notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -14

10:13pm Tue 24 Jun 14

Silver says...

End of the day the use of the spy car was intended to deal with a problem. Now this may be the controversial thing, to solve that problem earning it's keep could not be a factor how can a vehicle that's only going to be useful during the school rush earn enough money to justify itself? (The only answer is results if it stopped the problem) Obviously CYC didn't go with this argument that it'd be a loss leader to solve the problem. Thats not a bad thing when the big question is how much does CYC generate from parking fines already? Is it entirely self funded so it doesn't need tax payers money to keep that parking fine department going? If that is true how much profit does it make? Which then goes into the coffers.......
End of the day the use of the spy car was intended to deal with a problem. Now this may be the controversial thing, to solve that problem earning it's keep could not be a factor how can a vehicle that's only going to be useful during the school rush earn enough money to justify itself? (The only answer is results if it stopped the problem) Obviously CYC didn't go with this argument that it'd be a loss leader to solve the problem. Thats not a bad thing when the big question is how much does CYC generate from parking fines already? Is it entirely self funded so it doesn't need tax payers money to keep that parking fine department going? If that is true how much profit does it make? Which then goes into the coffers....... Silver
  • Score: -11

10:38pm Tue 24 Jun 14

jay, york says...

Sillybillies wrote:
Before it is banned can it go around the estates both council and private and do all those with cars parked on the pavement, on grass verges, and obstructing fire engines etc, please?
No because that is illegal use of thge spy car - as this labour council know only too well - they just jumped on the bandwagon and saw it as another cash cow - after the failure of all their previous ones. When will they ever learn?
[quote][p][bold]Sillybillies[/bold] wrote: Before it is banned can it go around the estates both council and private and do all those with cars parked on the pavement, on grass verges, and obstructing fire engines etc, please?[/p][/quote]No because that is illegal use of thge spy car - as this labour council know only too well - they just jumped on the bandwagon and saw it as another cash cow - after the failure of all their previous ones. When will they ever learn? jay, york
  • Score: -13

1:38am Wed 25 Jun 14

jake777 says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
jay, york wrote:
jake777 wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
pedalling paul wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .
"Roll on the day", you sir are a first class moron. You wish ill fortune on people because the camera van brought in to improve safety outside schools has been restricted to doing exactly that. Please feel free to check my grammar because that is all you can do, then crawl back under your stone.
I see they have opened the doors again in Bootham. do wish they would keep you locked in.
So little jake777 has crawled out of the woodwork again. Close competition between jakey and pp as to who is the most pathetic. But little jakey is a clear winner at being the most ignorant, nastiest and insulting person (I am being kind in using that term) to comment on this site. Is clearly unable to make any intelligent comments whatsoever.
Think you will have to wait til midnight or just after before he attempts a reply, they only plug him in for a short while, but he still manages to spout vitriolic comments as he only has very limited brain capacity.
bigger and better than yours, its a shame they keep opening the doors so you can come out Yawn Yawn Yawn.
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]"Roll on the day", you sir are a first class moron. You wish ill fortune on people because the camera van brought in to improve safety outside schools has been restricted to doing exactly that. Please feel free to check my grammar because that is all you can do, then crawl back under your stone.[/p][/quote]I see they have opened the doors again in Bootham. do wish they would keep you locked in.[/p][/quote]So little jake777 has crawled out of the woodwork again. Close competition between jakey and pp as to who is the most pathetic. But little jakey is a clear winner at being the most ignorant, nastiest and insulting person (I am being kind in using that term) to comment on this site. Is clearly unable to make any intelligent comments whatsoever.[/p][/quote]Think you will have to wait til midnight or just after before he attempts a reply, they only plug him in for a short while, but he still manages to spout vitriolic comments as he only has very limited brain capacity.[/p][/quote]bigger and better than yours, its a shame they keep opening the doors so you can come out Yawn Yawn Yawn. jake777
  • Score: 14

1:42am Wed 25 Jun 14

jake777 says...

Flabbergob wrote:
notpedallingpaul wrote:
JasBro wrote:
jake777 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............





.
Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way.
Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.
It was the traffic in the middle of the road causing the obstruction, not the cars parked perfectly legally by the side of the road.

In fact it was you blocking the fire engine, wasn't it?

It's perfectly natural to feel embarrassed when you inadvertently block an emergency vehicle, but please don't try to blame everybody else.

Pedalling Paul will probably hope it was your house burning down, because you were so inconsiderate as to travel by car.
You will have to excuse jake777, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and never will be, even PP will probably cringe at his comments - entertainment value - priceless.
PP & Jake777, likely the same person.

Both idiots.
Not as bigger idiot as you I have nothing to do with PP, so again get your facts right before making comments.
[quote][p][bold]Flabbergob[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way. Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.[/p][/quote]It was the traffic in the middle of the road causing the obstruction, not the cars parked perfectly legally by the side of the road. In fact it was you blocking the fire engine, wasn't it? It's perfectly natural to feel embarrassed when you inadvertently block an emergency vehicle, but please don't try to blame everybody else. Pedalling Paul will probably hope it was your house burning down, because you were so inconsiderate as to travel by car.[/p][/quote]You will have to excuse jake777, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and never will be, even PP will probably cringe at his comments - entertainment value - priceless.[/p][/quote]PP & Jake777, likely the same person. Both idiots.[/p][/quote]Not as bigger idiot as you I have nothing to do with PP, so again get your facts right before making comments. jake777
  • Score: 13

1:45am Wed 25 Jun 14

jake777 says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
JasBro wrote:
jake777 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............




.
Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way.
Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.
It was the traffic in the middle of the road causing the obstruction, not the cars parked perfectly legally by the side of the road.

In fact it was you blocking the fire engine, wasn't it?

It's perfectly natural to feel embarrassed when you inadvertently block an emergency vehicle, but please don't try to blame everybody else.

Pedalling Paul will probably hope it was your house burning down, because you were so inconsiderate as to travel by car.
You will have to excuse jake777, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and never will be, even PP will probably cringe at his comments - entertainment value - priceless.
Says you mr not very bright petrol head.
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way. Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.[/p][/quote]It was the traffic in the middle of the road causing the obstruction, not the cars parked perfectly legally by the side of the road. In fact it was you blocking the fire engine, wasn't it? It's perfectly natural to feel embarrassed when you inadvertently block an emergency vehicle, but please don't try to blame everybody else. Pedalling Paul will probably hope it was your house burning down, because you were so inconsiderate as to travel by car.[/p][/quote]You will have to excuse jake777, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and never will be, even PP will probably cringe at his comments - entertainment value - priceless.[/p][/quote]Says you mr not very bright petrol head. jake777
  • Score: 13

1:48am Wed 25 Jun 14

jake777 says...

notpedallingpaul wrote:
JasBro wrote:
jake777 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............




.
Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way.
Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.
It was the traffic in the middle of the road causing the obstruction, not the cars parked perfectly legally by the side of the road.

In fact it was you blocking the fire engine, wasn't it?

It's perfectly natural to feel embarrassed when you inadvertently block an emergency vehicle, but please don't try to blame everybody else.

Pedalling Paul will probably hope it was your house burning down, because you were so inconsiderate as to travel by car.
You will have to excuse jake777, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and never will be, even PP will probably cringe at his comments - entertainment value - priceless.
With comment like that you just show everybody you don't have a brain cell in your head.
[quote][p][bold]notpedallingpaul[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way. Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.[/p][/quote]It was the traffic in the middle of the road causing the obstruction, not the cars parked perfectly legally by the side of the road. In fact it was you blocking the fire engine, wasn't it? It's perfectly natural to feel embarrassed when you inadvertently block an emergency vehicle, but please don't try to blame everybody else. Pedalling Paul will probably hope it was your house burning down, because you were so inconsiderate as to travel by car.[/p][/quote]You will have to excuse jake777, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer and never will be, even PP will probably cringe at his comments - entertainment value - priceless.[/p][/quote]With comment like that you just show everybody you don't have a brain cell in your head. jake777
  • Score: 11

6:32am Wed 25 Jun 14

notpedallingpaul says...

The CoYC parking bosses in York say they are examining new rules closely after the Government announced it was banning the controversial widespread use of camera cars, the Government's other plans, which it says should give drivers a "fairer deal", include:

No parking fine if you park near an out-of-order meter and there's no alternative way to pay.
A compulsory 10-minute grace-period at the end of paid-for parking will be introduced. This will also apply to free on-street parking. So if you've parked in a free 30-minute parking bay, you won't be penalised for returning a few minutes late.
Adjudicator powers will be increased. So if for example an adjudicator's seen repeat parking tickets issued at a specific location where there may be inadequate signage, the adjudicator could stop the council issuing tickets in that area or get it to change the sign (or both).
Residents and businesses will have the right to demand a review of parking in their area, including the use of yellow lines and charges.
Parking guidance will be reformed so it is isn't as "heavy-handed" with motorists. It's hoped this will stop bailiffs being overly aggressive.
Councils will be forced to publish how income from parking charges is used.
The cost of parking tickets will be frozen for the remainder of this Parliament.
These changes will become law through the Deregulation Bill.

At last some common sense is being forced on those councils who think they can ride rough shod over their residents!
The CoYC parking bosses in York say they are examining new rules closely after the Government announced it was banning the controversial widespread use of camera cars, the Government's other plans, which it says should give drivers a "fairer deal", include: No parking fine if you park near an out-of-order meter and there's no alternative way to pay. A compulsory 10-minute grace-period at the end of paid-for parking will be introduced. This will also apply to free on-street parking. So if you've parked in a free 30-minute parking bay, you won't be penalised for returning a few minutes late. Adjudicator powers will be increased. So if for example an adjudicator's seen repeat parking tickets issued at a specific location where there may be inadequate signage, the adjudicator could stop the council issuing tickets in that area or get it to change the sign (or both). Residents and businesses will have the right to demand a review of parking in their area, including the use of yellow lines and charges. Parking guidance will be reformed so it is isn't as "heavy-handed" with motorists. It's hoped this will stop bailiffs being overly aggressive. Councils will be forced to publish how income from parking charges is used. The cost of parking tickets will be frozen for the remainder of this Parliament. These changes will become law through the Deregulation Bill. At last some common sense is being forced on those councils who think they can ride rough shod over their residents! notpedallingpaul
  • Score: -12

6:30pm Wed 25 Jun 14

Cheeky face says...

Mitch2nd. Lendal Bridge still not resolved,. There is no road marking at the end of Lendal saying no right turn; so if a large vehicle obstructs the only no right turn sign then confusion to the motorist arises again!

The cameras car is a vehicle as well, and to maximize expenditure appraisal/value, lets see it being used with a passenger to see what the motorists is faced with(and what they should be faced with) is an option for a few hours a day. Just an example.
Mitch2nd. Lendal Bridge still not resolved,. There is no road marking at the end of Lendal saying no right turn; so if a large vehicle obstructs the only no right turn sign then confusion to the motorist arises again! The cameras car is a vehicle as well, and to maximize expenditure appraisal/value, lets see it being used with a passenger to see what the motorists is faced with(and what they should be faced with) is an option for a few hours a day. Just an example. Cheeky face
  • Score: 11

9:02pm Fri 27 Jun 14

JasBro says...

I'm surprised that pedalling paul's first comment, looking forward to people's houses being burned down, was allowed to stand, whilst caecilius's comment about hoping people's cars got smashed up was removed.

Both comments were quite nasty, neither were very intelligent, nor appropriate for a family oriented local newspaper website.

Personally, I'd prefer that both had been left in place to show the nature of both commenters., but at least pedalling paul's comments have been left in place to embarrass him publicly.
I'm surprised that pedalling paul's first comment, looking forward to people's houses being burned down, was allowed to stand, whilst caecilius's comment about hoping people's cars got smashed up was removed. Both comments were quite nasty, neither were very intelligent, nor appropriate for a family oriented local newspaper website. Personally, I'd prefer that both had been left in place to show the nature of both commenters., but at least pedalling paul's comments have been left in place to embarrass him publicly. JasBro
  • Score: -11

9:05pm Fri 27 Jun 14

JasBro says...

jake777 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............


.
Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way.
Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.
You're a taxi driver aren't you?

That explains everything.
[quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way. Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.[/p][/quote]You're a taxi driver aren't you? That explains everything. JasBro
  • Score: -12

9:45pm Fri 27 Jun 14

jake777 says...

JasBro wrote:
jake777 wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............



.
Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way.
Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.
You're a taxi driver aren't you?

That explains everything.
No I am not a Taxi driver, so you got that wrong big style.
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Roll on the day when one of those who comments in favour of the action by Eric Pickles, finds that their house has burned down because a fire engine has been unable to get past illegally parked vehicles............ .[/p][/quote]Total agreement, While Leeman road was closed, I was sat in traffic on Poppleton road and a fire Engine struggled to try and get down but because of parked cars it was unable to get by as other vehicles could not move out of its way. Peoples lives are at risk due to parking problems, all main roads should be red routes so that their is always room for Emergency vehicles to get to where they are needed.[/p][/quote]You're a taxi driver aren't you? That explains everything.[/p][/quote]No I am not a Taxi driver, so you got that wrong big style. jake777
  • Score: 11

10:06pm Fri 27 Jun 14

JasBro says...

Can't say I blame you for denying it :-)
Can't say I blame you for denying it :-) JasBro
  • Score: -13

10:14pm Fri 27 Jun 14

JasBro says...

You've said before that you drive up and down Leeman Road all day long.
You've said before that you drive up and down Leeman Road all day long. JasBro
  • Score: -12

12:44am Sun 29 Jun 14

jake777 says...

JasBro wrote:
Can't say I blame you for denying it :-)
Why would I admit to been a Taxi driver when I have never driven a Taxi in my life, shall we say you are a bog cleaner then??????????
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: Can't say I blame you for denying it :-)[/p][/quote]Why would I admit to been a Taxi driver when I have never driven a Taxi in my life, shall we say you are a bog cleaner then?????????? jake777
  • Score: 12

12:48am Sun 29 Jun 14

jake777 says...

JasBro wrote:
You've said before that you drive up and down Leeman Road all day long.
Shows you don't open your eyes, just because I have said I drive up and down Leeman Road. Does not make me a taxi driver, look at all the other buisnesses there is around there. brain dead .
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: You've said before that you drive up and down Leeman Road all day long.[/p][/quote]Shows you don't open your eyes, just because I have said I drive up and down Leeman Road. Does not make me a taxi driver, look at all the other buisnesses there is around there. brain dead . jake777
  • Score: 12

9:06am Sun 29 Jun 14

JasBro says...

No need to get upset just because I know who you are.
No need to get upset just because I know who you are. JasBro
  • Score: -22

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