Drivers shun ‘new’ Moor Lane car park, formerly Askham Bar Park & Ride site

York Press: The empty car park at the former Askham Bar Park & Ride, York The empty car park at the former Askham Bar Park & Ride, York

THIS was the scene after York’s latest and emptiest Pay & Display car park opened - rows and rows of vacant spaces.

Only two motorists had paid £4 each to park at lunchtime on Tuesday at the 500-space Moor Lane car park, formerly the Askham Bar Park & Ride site with free parking.

City of York Council said it was currently exploring options on what to do with the car park, following the recent opening of the larger Park & Ride service on the other side of the Tesco store.

Head of transport Tony Clarke said that in the medium to long-term, it was anticipated the land would be sold and redeveloped.

“But in the interim the council will benefit from some additional income from the temporary pay and display, which will also help cover the business rates for the car park and access to the nursery in the area, which must be maintained.”

A council spokeswoman said it was encouraging drivers to use the new Park&Ride site, which removed traffic from a section of Tadcaster Road near York College, because the majority of users at peak times came from the A64 direction.

One motorist, Walter Bullen, from Harrogate, drove in to the new Pay & Display car park on Tuesday lunchtime to find out how much was being charged - and then drove straight out again to use the free Park & Ride site after finding there was a flat £4 fee to park for 24 hours.

He branded the charge “atrocious”, asking: “Why would anyone pay £4 when they can park for free at the Park & Ride site?”

Cllr Chris Steward claimed the charges were “absolutely ridiculous,” and said that when people were told about them at a meeting in Copmanthorpe recently, the news was greeted with “riots of laughter.” He said: “This just shows a total lack of planning. The council has known for years that the old Park & Ride car park would be closing but it still doesn’t have a plan for it. And yet again, we have a brownfield site that could be used for badly-needed housing instead of using Green Belt land.”

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11:28am Sat 21 Jun 14

nearlyman says...

..skate board park ? off road race track ? TDF hub ? storage facility for the waste of City of York council ?
..skate board park ? off road race track ? TDF hub ? storage facility for the waste of City of York council ? nearlyman
  • Score: -10

12:14pm Sat 21 Jun 14

clm058 says...

far to many park n rides, i think york is becoming a little obsessed with them
far to many park n rides, i think york is becoming a little obsessed with them clm058
  • Score: -7

12:35pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Chip monk says...

Who is going to use it? No point parking there when it's free down the road
Who is going to use it? No point parking there when it's free down the road Chip monk
  • Score: -8

12:48pm Sat 21 Jun 14

bloodaxe says...

Oh big deal. So it's a former P&R awaiting development and being used pro tem. So what ? Hardly a major scandal.
Oh big deal. So it's a former P&R awaiting development and being used pro tem. So what ? Hardly a major scandal. bloodaxe
  • Score: 40

1:09pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Dithenewbreed says...

And yet when I complained to the council about the parking in the burton stone lane area, they didn't want to know. I suggested there should be some sort of incentive for staff from the hospital to use park and ride. Trying to explain that the area is a car park for staff and that it's a problem for residents & can we have resident parking? only to be told " We can't move a problem from one area to another" all this money spent on park and rides and yet not willing to look at how to promote them. Plus it would reduce traffic into york. Well done CYC such a problem solving organisation
And yet when I complained to the council about the parking in the burton stone lane area, they didn't want to know. I suggested there should be some sort of incentive for staff from the hospital to use park and ride. Trying to explain that the area is a car park for staff and that it's a problem for residents & can we have resident parking? only to be told " We can't move a problem from one area to another" all this money spent on park and rides and yet not willing to look at how to promote them. Plus it would reduce traffic into york. Well done CYC such a problem solving organisation Dithenewbreed
  • Score: -12

2:22pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Jalymo says...

Hope the Council included this land in the Local Plan, or is that why it is being kept as a "car park", no one will ever use. Why not develop this land, before concreting over the Green Belt farm land? Build on Brownfield sites first.
Hope the Council included this land in the Local Plan, or is that why it is being kept as a "car park", no one will ever use. Why not develop this land, before concreting over the Green Belt farm land? Build on Brownfield sites first. Jalymo
  • Score: -13

3:32pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Silver says...

Bit off topic but it was in the news today, that they're going to ban the use of CCTV spy cars for parking with the exception of using them outside schools etc. So you know exactly as we were promised by the council they'd use it for and then did more with it which is apparently now banned.
http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/uk-27952341
So does that mean we'll be getting another story about the Spy car?
Bit off topic but it was in the news today, that they're going to ban the use of CCTV spy cars for parking with the exception of using them outside schools etc. So you know exactly as we were promised by the council they'd use it for and then did more with it which is apparently now banned. http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/uk-27952341 So does that mean we'll be getting another story about the Spy car? Silver
  • Score: -5

4:02pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Y.I.P. says...

Why cant I comment on York Pride March and Naked bike ride,is this censorship
Why cant I comment on York Pride March and Naked bike ride,is this censorship Y.I.P.
  • Score: -7

4:04pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Digeorge says...

It's a jolly good train spotting area.

I noted the other week that they still hadn't completely 'fenced' off the area down to the track, I hope they have now.

Probably cos people don't know it is open yet!!
It's a jolly good train spotting area. I noted the other week that they still hadn't completely 'fenced' off the area down to the track, I hope they have now. Probably cos people don't know it is open yet!! Digeorge
  • Score: 4

5:16pm Sat 21 Jun 14

ouseswimmer says...

This land could have been sold off by the council for a few million yet they don't seem to be desperate for the cash.Why is that?
This land could have been sold off by the council for a few million yet they don't seem to be desperate for the cash.Why is that? ouseswimmer
  • Score: -8

5:18pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Cari6192 says...

We were under the impression that this was being retained (until it was built on as it's in the Local Plan) for use with the Park and Ride so that e.g. residents could get the (P&R) bus at the old stop.

Who in their right mind is going to want to park there, there aren't any tourist attractions, or much to do, other than Tesco or bus into town. And why would you park there, pay £4 when the park and ride states free parking!!!

Well, I won't be using the 'old site' or the new so it looks like I'll be driving into town as it will be cheaper for me in the long run.
We were under the impression that this was being retained (until it was built on as it's in the Local Plan) for use with the Park and Ride so that e.g. residents could get the (P&R) bus at the old stop. Who in their right mind is going to want to park there, there aren't any tourist attractions, or much to do, other than Tesco or bus into town. And why would you park there, pay £4 when the park and ride states free parking!!! Well, I won't be using the 'old site' or the new so it looks like I'll be driving into town as it will be cheaper for me in the long run. Cari6192
  • Score: -6

5:57pm Sat 21 Jun 14

Johnboy1946 says...

City of York Council couldn't run a bath with any degree of success. It seems that they are intent on making as many mistakes as possible before the inevitable happens next May.
City of York Council couldn't run a bath with any degree of success. It seems that they are intent on making as many mistakes as possible before the inevitable happens next May. Johnboy1946
  • Score: -4

8:06pm Sat 21 Jun 14

oldgoat says...

Barking mad.
P&D car parks are fine when there is some easy way to get to places. What do we have at Askham Bar- the college, LOTS of houses and..... ? No local bus to get you in cheaper than P&R, no local attractions. The word 'pointless' comes to mind.

Cheaper to park at P&R and pay the return into town, which is what they want us to do anyway. Oooooops.
Barking mad. P&D car parks are fine when there is some easy way to get to places. What do we have at Askham Bar- the college, LOTS of houses and..... ? No local bus to get you in cheaper than P&R, no local attractions. The word 'pointless' comes to mind. Cheaper to park at P&R and pay the return into town, which is what they want us to do anyway. Oooooops. oldgoat
  • Score: -7

9:00pm Sat 21 Jun 14

yorkandproud says...

bloodaxe wrote:
Oh big deal. So it's a former P&R awaiting development and being used pro tem. So what ? Hardly a major scandal.
The point is bloodaxe, that this council won't know what you mean when you say "awaiting development and being used pro tem" , even if this were true., because they bumble along from one day to the next , with no idea what is happening. Have you ever heard of the expression " winging it". That is COYC at the present time.
[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote: Oh big deal. So it's a former P&R awaiting development and being used pro tem. So what ? Hardly a major scandal.[/p][/quote]The point is bloodaxe, that this council won't know what you mean when you say "awaiting development and being used pro tem" , even if this were true., because they bumble along from one day to the next , with no idea what is happening. Have you ever heard of the expression " winging it". That is COYC at the present time. yorkandproud
  • Score: -7

5:22am Sun 22 Jun 14

siouxsie-hcl says...

there's a half a mile part of road between york college and this park that merges aligns with the simplest way for most york residents to get from the 5th largest city in england to their homes. i don't remember seeing this car park being anything but close to empty, when i lived in bishopthorpe i'd ride past it to catch the park and ride and it was deserted except for the "free" days for locals at attractions in york, and the years i've lived in the city i've seen the same when visiting tescos. it seems bizarre they'd charge so much for a previously free service, but with the new college being where it is that short stretch of tadcaster road is incredibly unfit for the traffic it needs to bear
there's a half a mile part of road between york college and this park that merges aligns with the simplest way for most york residents to get from the 5th largest city in england to their homes. i don't remember seeing this car park being anything but close to empty, when i lived in bishopthorpe i'd ride past it to catch the park and ride and it was deserted except for the "free" days for locals at attractions in york, and the years i've lived in the city i've seen the same when visiting tescos. it seems bizarre they'd charge so much for a previously free service, but with the new college being where it is that short stretch of tadcaster road is incredibly unfit for the traffic it needs to bear siouxsie-hcl
  • Score: -10

10:37am Sun 22 Jun 14

Mr John says...

Park and ride is a great idea but not much use when the last buses are as early at 8 pm. There are residents and visitors who would like to would like to stay in town beyond 7.30 pm to sight see and dine but have to get back to their cars instead.
Park and ride is a great idea but not much use when the last buses are as early at 8 pm. There are residents and visitors who would like to would like to stay in town beyond 7.30 pm to sight see and dine but have to get back to their cars instead. Mr John
  • Score: 22

5:44pm Sun 22 Jun 14

piaggio1 says...

Should have seen it this mornin ( sun). All traffic waitin to get into york .all coming off bypass .easr n west bound.stupid sets of traffic lights holding everything up
Should have seen it this mornin ( sun). All traffic waitin to get into york .all coming off bypass .easr n west bound.stupid sets of traffic lights holding everything up piaggio1
  • Score: -9

6:09pm Sun 22 Jun 14

bloodaxe says...

yorkandproud wrote:
bloodaxe wrote:
Oh big deal. So it's a former P&R awaiting development and being used pro tem. So what ? Hardly a major scandal.
The point is bloodaxe, that this council won't know what you mean when you say "awaiting development and being used pro tem" , even if this were true., because they bumble along from one day to the next , with no idea what is happening. Have you ever heard of the expression " winging it". That is COYC at the present time.
It still doesn't negate the point I made. New P&R; old carpark being used for the time being. Better just to fence it off and not use it at all ?
[quote][p][bold]yorkandproud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote: Oh big deal. So it's a former P&R awaiting development and being used pro tem. So what ? Hardly a major scandal.[/p][/quote]The point is bloodaxe, that this council won't know what you mean when you say "awaiting development and being used pro tem" , even if this were true., because they bumble along from one day to the next , with no idea what is happening. Have you ever heard of the expression " winging it". That is COYC at the present time.[/p][/quote]It still doesn't negate the point I made. New P&R; old carpark being used for the time being. Better just to fence it off and not use it at all ? bloodaxe
  • Score: 14

6:51pm Sun 22 Jun 14

MouseHouse says...

The old P&R car park will become an offshoot of Tesco. Mark my words.
The old P&R car park will become an offshoot of Tesco. Mark my words. MouseHouse
  • Score: -9

7:12pm Sun 22 Jun 14

andrew flower says...

MouseHouse wrote:
The old P&R car park will become an offshoot of Tesco. Mark my words.
Stick the heroin food gang in there and then build a 30 foot wall round it
[quote][p][bold]MouseHouse[/bold] wrote: The old P&R car park will become an offshoot of Tesco. Mark my words.[/p][/quote]Stick the heroin food gang in there and then build a 30 foot wall round it andrew flower
  • Score: -13

9:06pm Sun 22 Jun 14

Stevie D says...

It's pretty obvious that the council was hoping that the old car park near Tesco would become an overspill for York College, for all the students who can't get parking permits for the main college car park or who can't get in because it's full. They aren't allowed to use Askham Bar, because that's only for people using the P&R, so this would give them somewhere they could legally park, even if it is more expensive than the college car park. Unsurprisingly, it's the time of year when the college is winding down for the summer holidays, so of course there won't be the demand there at the moment. Have another look in September, when all the students are back, and I bet it will be more popular then.
It's pretty obvious that the council was hoping that the old car park near Tesco would become an overspill for York College, for all the students who can't get parking permits for the main college car park or who can't get in because it's full. They aren't allowed to use Askham Bar, because that's only for people using the P&R, so this would give them somewhere they could legally park, even if it is more expensive than the college car park. Unsurprisingly, it's the time of year when the college is winding down for the summer holidays, so of course there won't be the demand there at the moment. Have another look in September, when all the students are back, and I bet it will be more popular then. Stevie D
  • Score: 11

6:30am Mon 23 Jun 14

Flyingpig says...

Come Christmas and Tesco car park is full, will I have to pay to do my shopping ?
Come Christmas and Tesco car park is full, will I have to pay to do my shopping ? Flyingpig
  • Score: -8

9:33am Mon 23 Jun 14

andrew flower says...

Why no comments on the spy car. The Press is Alexander's play thing
Why no comments on the spy car. The Press is Alexander's play thing andrew flower
  • Score: -4

10:07am Mon 23 Jun 14

Madasanibbotson says...

andrew flower wrote:
Why no comments on the spy car. The Press is Alexander's play thing
Simple answer- If that happens don't use Tesco's
[quote][p][bold]andrew flower[/bold] wrote: Why no comments on the spy car. The Press is Alexander's play thing[/p][/quote]Simple answer- If that happens don't use Tesco's Madasanibbotson
  • Score: 6

9:36pm Mon 23 Jun 14

spottycow says...

Why not put the spy car on the a64 then it can film all the potatoe waste coming out of the WARCUP lorry which came from Mcains at CAYTON rather than chase YORK CAR DRIVERS
Why not put the spy car on the a64 then it can film all the potatoe waste coming out of the WARCUP lorry which came from Mcains at CAYTON rather than chase YORK CAR DRIVERS spottycow
  • Score: -12

4:48am Sat 28 Jun 14

Magicman! says...

And yet again, we have a brownfield site that could be used for badly-needed housing instead of using Green Belt land.

Hmmm... new houses there. Who wants to place odds that if houses were built there, within a few months a resident of the new houses would complain about the noise from the passing trains and cars?!
[quote]And yet again, we have a brownfield site that could be used for badly-needed housing instead of using Green Belt land.[/quote] Hmmm... new houses there. Who wants to place odds that if houses were built there, within a few months a resident of the new houses would complain about the noise from the passing trains and cars?! Magicman!
  • Score: 10

6:03pm Thu 3 Jul 14

Dave Ruddock says...

seems we have empty car parks , council and First not talking , a ring road that's getting like the M25. Can someone explain to these 2 (erm dis functional) groups why its happened .

On First buses, even the route 59 now travel in 2s that the buses
seems we have empty car parks , council and First not talking , a ring road that's getting like the M25. Can someone explain to these 2 (erm dis functional) groups why its happened . On First buses, even the route 59 now travel in 2s that the buses Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -8

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