Monk Stray gate bid to be decided today

Monk Stray gate bid to be decided today

Monk Stray gate bid to be decided today

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A NEW access gate to let large vehicles on to Monk Stray from Stockton Lane could be approved by councillors today, despite opposition from neighbours.

The city council’s parks department has applied for planning permission to put in a new gateway onto the stray ahead of the planned Tour de France spectator hub, and the application is due in front of the planning committee this afternoon.

The application includes a “tarmac crossing over the existing verge adjacent to Stockton Lane and an 8m by 8m square of grasscrete on the stray,” and would mean removing part of the hedgerow.

A report by development management officer Neil Massey says Tour de France events and the acceptability of access affected plans for the gates, but says that and future events on the stray should not be considered part of the planning application.

The report also recommends that councillors approve the application, despite neighbours opposing the plans.

Seventy residents have written opposing the planning application for the gate, as has the Heworth Planning Forum.

There are fears the gate will make it easier to hold regular large-scale events on Monk Stray, change the character of the historic public space, damage wildlife and create traffic problems.

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11:02am Thu 5 Jun 14

nearlyman says...

..so the report recommends sticking up two fingers to everyone who happens to live there...............
.....should be most amusing when the obvious quagmire develops............
has anyone not noticed all the water on the land where they want to put the gates ??
..so the report recommends sticking up two fingers to everyone who happens to live there............... .....should be most amusing when the obvious quagmire develops............ has anyone not noticed all the water on the land where they want to put the gates ?? nearlyman
  • Score: -29

12:01pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Dr Brian says...

Another example of our council not giving a **** about its residents.

TdF is a month away and the Council will rush to do this work, meanwhile residents who pay council tax have overgrown vegetation in snickets that need action, grass verges that need cutting and many other things that need doing locally and all this has to be forgotten because everything has to stop because the Tour de France is in town for a few minutes!
Another example of our council not giving a **** about its residents. TdF is a month away and the Council will rush to do this work, meanwhile residents who pay council tax have overgrown vegetation in snickets that need action, grass verges that need cutting and many other things that need doing locally and all this has to be forgotten because everything has to stop because the Tour de France is in town for a few minutes! Dr Brian
  • Score: -55

12:21pm Thu 5 Jun 14

inthesticks says...

If the hedge is removed it contravenes the law, which states that nesting birds should not be disturbed.
How dare they go against what the public want, yet again!!
If the hedge is removed it contravenes the law, which states that nesting birds should not be disturbed. How dare they go against what the public want, yet again!! inthesticks
  • Score: -57

12:28pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Knive+++ says...

Can someone please clarify why a TdF hub is being created on Monk Stray when the route doesn't come anywhere close (see http://www.visityork
.org/the-route.aspx)
? Or am I missing something?
Can someone please clarify why a TdF hub is being created on Monk Stray when the route doesn't come anywhere close (see http://www.visityork .org/the-route.aspx) ? Or am I missing something? Knive+++
  • Score: -39

1:48pm Thu 5 Jun 14

HeworthM says...

This whole project seems to reflect the ability (or lack of it) for our elected council and its employees ("officers"), to develop and deliver a plan effectively and efficiently.
It should have been clear from the beginning of the project that the only access to the site is currently via a private road, and that securing agreement to use that was critical to being able to deliver a spectator hub. The officer of the council who attended the meeting held at Heworth Cricket Club should have communicated back to her team that there may be an issue as it this issue was stated a number of times by the residents of Monk Avenue.
Instead, it has seemingly been left until the last minute to seek a planning application to create an access point.
Instead, expense on permission to host an event on the Stray has been expensed (thankfully the permission is restricted & not the almost open ended version originally applied for), on a site for which the council can't now possibly get access to.
They've hired a wedding venue, but haven't yet found a bride!!
This whole project seems to reflect the ability (or lack of it) for our elected council and its employees ("officers"), to develop and deliver a plan effectively and efficiently. It should have been clear from the beginning of the project that the only access to the site is currently via a private road, and that securing agreement to use that was critical to being able to deliver a spectator hub. The officer of the council who attended the meeting held at Heworth Cricket Club should have communicated back to her team that there may be an issue as it this issue was stated a number of times by the residents of Monk Avenue. Instead, it has seemingly been left until the last minute to seek a planning application to create an access point. Instead, expense on permission to host an event on the Stray has been expensed (thankfully the permission is restricted & not the almost open ended version originally applied for), on a site for which the council can't now possibly get access to. They've hired a wedding venue, but haven't yet found a bride!! HeworthM
  • Score: -26

1:52pm Thu 5 Jun 14

hokey cokey says...

Knive+++ wrote:
Can someone please clarify why a TdF hub is being created on Monk Stray when the route doesn't come anywhere close (see http://www.visityork .org/the-route.aspx) ? Or am I missing something?
As the Tour is passing York Minster, which is within walking distance of Monk Stray, I am not sure what your definition of "close" is?

I assume that the 70 residents that have objected are the same ones that object to anything happening on the Stray. I think they see it as an extension of their front gardens. At the end of the day it is common ground and consideration of the benefits should be given to the wider community eg the play equipment that never got installed because "the residents" facing the Stray didnt want it. I recollect them moaning when the Tour of Britain finshed a stage on the Malton Road adjacent to their properties. I understand that they might not want "an event" on the Stray, but heh they shouldn't live with a large public access area in front of their door and not expect others to use it for exercising their dogs/kids/pitching tents!
[quote][p][bold]Knive+++[/bold] wrote: Can someone please clarify why a TdF hub is being created on Monk Stray when the route doesn't come anywhere close (see http://www.visityork .org/the-route.aspx) ? Or am I missing something?[/p][/quote]As the Tour is passing York Minster, which is within walking distance of Monk Stray, I am not sure what your definition of "close" is? I assume that the 70 residents that have objected are the same ones that object to anything happening on the Stray. I think they see it as an extension of their front gardens. At the end of the day it is common ground and consideration of the benefits should be given to the wider community eg the play equipment that never got installed because "the residents" facing the Stray didnt want it. I recollect them moaning when the Tour of Britain finshed a stage on the Malton Road adjacent to their properties. I understand that they might not want "an event" on the Stray, but heh they shouldn't live with a large public access area in front of their door and not expect others to use it for exercising their dogs/kids/pitching tents! hokey cokey
  • Score: 53

3:12pm Thu 5 Jun 14

Knive+++ says...

hokey cokey wrote:
Knive+++ wrote:
Can someone please clarify why a TdF hub is being created on Monk Stray when the route doesn't come anywhere close (see http://www.visityork .org/the-route.aspx) ? Or am I missing something?
As the Tour is passing York Minster, which is within walking distance of Monk Stray, I am not sure what your definition of "close" is?

I assume that the 70 residents that have objected are the same ones that object to anything happening on the Stray. I think they see it as an extension of their front gardens. At the end of the day it is common ground and consideration of the benefits should be given to the wider community eg the play equipment that never got installed because "the residents" facing the Stray didnt want it. I recollect them moaning when the Tour of Britain finshed a stage on the Malton Road adjacent to their properties. I understand that they might not want "an event" on the Stray, but heh they shouldn't live with a large public access area in front of their door and not expect others to use it for exercising their dogs/kids/pitching tents!
OK, 'close' as in somewhere along the actual route rather than in one of the few parts of York through which the Tour doesn't go (and "walking distance" is an equally vague term). Using the term 'hub' implies that it's central to the event rather than on the periphery.

I'd assumed (obviously wrongly) that part of the TdF route would include Malton Rd as per the previous Tour of Britain, having a hub on the Stray would therefore have made sense. Why not have the hub at Rawcliffe Bar? Closer to more of the actual route and with better parking facilities, off-road bike and pedestrian access to town, etc.
[quote][p][bold]hokey cokey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Knive+++[/bold] wrote: Can someone please clarify why a TdF hub is being created on Monk Stray when the route doesn't come anywhere close (see http://www.visityork .org/the-route.aspx) ? Or am I missing something?[/p][/quote]As the Tour is passing York Minster, which is within walking distance of Monk Stray, I am not sure what your definition of "close" is? I assume that the 70 residents that have objected are the same ones that object to anything happening on the Stray. I think they see it as an extension of their front gardens. At the end of the day it is common ground and consideration of the benefits should be given to the wider community eg the play equipment that never got installed because "the residents" facing the Stray didnt want it. I recollect them moaning when the Tour of Britain finshed a stage on the Malton Road adjacent to their properties. I understand that they might not want "an event" on the Stray, but heh they shouldn't live with a large public access area in front of their door and not expect others to use it for exercising their dogs/kids/pitching tents![/p][/quote]OK, 'close' as in somewhere along the actual route rather than in one of the few parts of York through which the Tour doesn't go (and "walking distance" is an equally vague term). Using the term 'hub' implies that it's central to the event rather than on the periphery. I'd assumed (obviously wrongly) that part of the TdF route would include Malton Rd as per the previous Tour of Britain, having a hub on the Stray would therefore have made sense. Why not have the hub at Rawcliffe Bar? Closer to more of the actual route and with better parking facilities, off-road bike and pedestrian access to town, etc. Knive+++
  • Score: -49

4:41pm Thu 5 Jun 14

tobefair says...

I would draw the Councils attention to the Hedgerow Regulations 1997 and in particular to the section regarding the disturbance of nesting birds between the 1st March and 31st July.
Digging up hedgerows at this time of year should be avoided but knowing this Councils track record on things like FOI requests and Lendal Bridge little things like regulations won't stand in their way. Thy like to think they have green credentials but only when it suits them.
I would draw the Councils attention to the Hedgerow Regulations 1997 and in particular to the section regarding the disturbance of nesting birds between the 1st March and 31st July. Digging up hedgerows at this time of year should be avoided but knowing this Councils track record on things like FOI requests and Lendal Bridge little things like regulations won't stand in their way. Thy like to think they have green credentials but only when it suits them. tobefair
  • Score: -69

5:00pm Thu 5 Jun 14

wallman says...

according to some councillors the hub is not on monk stray but nearer monks cross where the park and ride is. can someone from the council please tell us where the hub is going to be
according to some councillors the hub is not on monk stray but nearer monks cross where the park and ride is. can someone from the council please tell us where the hub is going to be wallman
  • Score: -51

5:57pm Thu 5 Jun 14

nearlyman says...

Ha Ha ....they pulled out.....someone must have noticed its waterlogged !!..............they are now running round like headless chickens !!
Ha Ha ....they pulled out.....someone must have noticed its waterlogged !!..............they are now running round like headless chickens !! nearlyman
  • Score: -21

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