Derwenthorpe developers ‘aren’t sticking to rules’, councillor claims

A digger, pictured on the Derwenthorpe site on Monday afternoon, according to Cllt Warters

A digger, pictured on the Derwenthorpe site on Monday afternoon, according to Cllt Warters

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OFFICIALS are investigating claims that diggers were at work on a York building site on Spring Bank Holiday Monday - in contravention of planning conditions.

Osbaldwick councillor Mark Warters has demanded enforcement action from City of York Council after what he claims is just the latest breach of restrictions on working hours on the Derwenthorpe site.

He sent officers photos of construction work which he said was taking place at 2.30pm on Monday,.

He said he would have thought that the position on working hours restrictions would have been made clear by now to David Wilson Homes and the Joseph Rowntree Housing Trust, who are behind the 540-home development on York's eastern outskirts.

"Until such time as robust action is taken by the council on this matter, the developers will continue to ignore the planning conditions as all concerned with this site have since day one of the construction," he claimed.

He said he looked forward to the enforcement team dealing with the matter with the same tenacity as they did with other issues locally.

He told The Press: "There is no point in the council making conditions when planning consent is granted if it doesn't enforce them and take action if they are broken."

A council spokeswoman said that Bank Holiday working was not allowed and the complaint by Coun Warters was being investigated.

Clare Harrigan, Head of Construction at Joseph Rowntree Housing Trust, said it had not received any complaints or queries from local residents about this issue.

"We can confirm however that no site work should be taking place on a Bank Holiday. she said. "We have raised this with David Wilson Homes.”

A spokesman for David Wilson Homes was unavailable for comment.

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8:59am Fri 30 May 14

andy fowler says...

Hypocrisy as ever from a councillor. They never follow a single rule unless it suits them
Hypocrisy as ever from a councillor. They never follow a single rule unless it suits them andy fowler
  • Score: -17

9:03am Fri 30 May 14

dctyke says...

I bet he claims overtime for taking the pics on a bank holiday!
I bet he claims overtime for taking the pics on a bank holiday! dctyke
  • Score: -32

10:18am Fri 30 May 14

the original Homer says...

Why are Joseph Rowntree Trust taking this up with David Wilson Homes?

A basic Health and Safety principle is that one person and one Company is responsible for knowing exactly who is on site at any time.

If that company is JRT then they should know exactly who was there and why.

If that company is DWH then this has nothing to do with JRT and they shouldn't bee involved.

What this sounds like is that JRT are responsible, but don't even know if anyone was there or not, and they need to check with DWH. If that's the case, then the site is inherently unsafe and all work should be stopped until better procedures are in place to know who is on site.

If there had been an accident on Monday no-one would have known if anyone was missing.
Why are Joseph Rowntree Trust taking this up with David Wilson Homes? A basic Health and Safety principle is that one person and one Company is responsible for knowing exactly who is on site at any time. If that company is JRT then they should know exactly who was there and why. If that company is DWH then this has nothing to do with JRT and they shouldn't bee involved. What this sounds like is that JRT are responsible, but don't even know if anyone was there or not, and they need to check with DWH. If that's the case, then the site is inherently unsafe and all work should be stopped until better procedures are in place to know who is on site. If there had been an accident on Monday no-one would have known if anyone was missing. the original Homer
  • Score: -3

11:52am Fri 30 May 14

keepitshut says...

dctyke wrote:
I bet he claims overtime for taking the pics on a bank holiday!
I think you will find that Cllr Warters very very rarely claims anything!
Take a look at his allowances sheet on the council web site!

Something else for you to ponder about Cllr Warters.....a couple of weeks ago i was talking to somebody about the amount of "divets" and chewed up grass verges in my area.
Around 8.30pm last Thursday during the **** rain Cllr Warters was "filling" in the divets and chewed up verges with soil.
He isnt even a Cllr for my area!
I went out and had a word with him and asked him what he was doing, he said he had seen the state of the verges and had decided next time he was passing he would repair them best he could.
Tell you what......wish he was a Cllr in my area, more would get done!
[quote][p][bold]dctyke[/bold] wrote: I bet he claims overtime for taking the pics on a bank holiday![/p][/quote]I think you will find that Cllr Warters very very rarely claims anything! Take a look at his allowances sheet on the council web site! Something else for you to ponder about Cllr Warters.....a couple of weeks ago i was talking to somebody about the amount of "divets" and chewed up grass verges in my area. Around 8.30pm last Thursday during the **** rain Cllr Warters was "filling" in the divets and chewed up verges with soil. He isnt even a Cllr for my area! I went out and had a word with him and asked him what he was doing, he said he had seen the state of the verges and had decided next time he was passing he would repair them best he could. Tell you what......wish he was a Cllr in my area, more would get done! keepitshut
  • Score: 8

12:09pm Fri 30 May 14

What's Up, Doc? says...

Get back in your NIMBY box, Warters! Why shouldn't honest builders, or any other person, be allowed to work overtime? I'm sure any industrial noise would take place during working hours and to the residents, that's life, get over it. Surely the sooner it is done then you can get your peace and quiet back?
Get back in your NIMBY box, Warters! Why shouldn't honest builders, or any other person, be allowed to work overtime? I'm sure any industrial noise would take place during working hours and to the residents, that's life, get over it. Surely the sooner it is done then you can get your peace and quiet back? What's Up, Doc?
  • Score: -11

1:11pm Fri 30 May 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

Lets report them they are working? yeh good one... Looks like one digger was in use... maybe do attempt to make up lost time due to recent weather in an attempt to deliver a project on time in York...

So Mr. smart councillor... what would you prefer a delayed project meaning residents have to put up with the works for longer? Would you prefer higher costs for construction shared by the contractor and public (inclement weather). Or is working the extra bank holiday here and there in an attempt to save money and disruption a good idea that should be applauded not stopped! Its no fu@king wonder that council projects take so long if this is their working mentality...
Lets report them they are working? yeh good one... Looks like one digger was in use... maybe do attempt to make up lost time due to recent weather in an attempt to deliver a project on time in York... So Mr. smart councillor... what would you prefer a delayed project meaning residents have to put up with the works for longer? Would you prefer higher costs for construction shared by the contractor and public (inclement weather). Or is working the extra bank holiday here and there in an attempt to save money and disruption a good idea that should be applauded not stopped! Its no fu@king wonder that council projects take so long if this is their working mentality... Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 2

2:18pm Fri 30 May 14

tommytuckamotor says...

What's Up, Doc? wrote:
Get back in your NIMBY box, Warters! Why shouldn't honest builders, or any other person, be allowed to work overtime? I'm sure any industrial noise would take place during working hours and to the residents, that's life, get over it. Surely the sooner it is done then you can get your peace and quiet back?
Unfortunately I don't think they are all honest builders on there . I know of one incident personally, the company does'nt even know some of the guys that are actually working on their own site . They have been building for quite some time , if it was next door to you you may think differently.
[quote][p][bold]What's Up, Doc?[/bold] wrote: Get back in your NIMBY box, Warters! Why shouldn't honest builders, or any other person, be allowed to work overtime? I'm sure any industrial noise would take place during working hours and to the residents, that's life, get over it. Surely the sooner it is done then you can get your peace and quiet back?[/p][/quote]Unfortunately I don't think they are all honest builders on there . I know of one incident personally, the company does'nt even know some of the guys that are actually working on their own site . They have been building for quite some time , if it was next door to you you may think differently. tommytuckamotor
  • Score: -4

2:29pm Fri 30 May 14

What's Up, Doc? says...

tommytuckamotor wrote:
What's Up, Doc? wrote:
Get back in your NIMBY box, Warters! Why shouldn't honest builders, or any other person, be allowed to work overtime? I'm sure any industrial noise would take place during working hours and to the residents, that's life, get over it. Surely the sooner it is done then you can get your peace and quiet back?
Unfortunately I don't think they are all honest builders on there . I know of one incident personally, the company does'nt even know some of the guys that are actually working on their own site . They have been building for quite some time , if it was next door to you you may think differently.
OK, Tommytuckamotor, I cannot vouch for the integrity of the builders. However, if I lived next door to the site I still wouldn't think differently. Work has to take place for anything to get be achieved. I agree that it may be noisy but as I said in my original post, it's life, get on with it. I know this from experience of living near to York St John's!
[quote][p][bold]tommytuckamotor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]What's Up, Doc?[/bold] wrote: Get back in your NIMBY box, Warters! Why shouldn't honest builders, or any other person, be allowed to work overtime? I'm sure any industrial noise would take place during working hours and to the residents, that's life, get over it. Surely the sooner it is done then you can get your peace and quiet back?[/p][/quote]Unfortunately I don't think they are all honest builders on there . I know of one incident personally, the company does'nt even know some of the guys that are actually working on their own site . They have been building for quite some time , if it was next door to you you may think differently.[/p][/quote]OK, Tommytuckamotor, I cannot vouch for the integrity of the builders. However, if I lived next door to the site I still wouldn't think differently. Work has to take place for anything to get be achieved. I agree that it may be noisy but as I said in my original post, it's life, get on with it. I know this from experience of living near to York St John's! What's Up, Doc?
  • Score: 2

7:30pm Fri 30 May 14

baileyuk says...

lets face it this guy is a muppet!! when the build isnt completed on time he will be moaning, yet when they maybe try and play catch up he is moaning. Plenty of large developments, they dont actually know who is working on site,.

warters as took it upon himself to repair someone elses verges in the rain? very strange if you ask me.. maybe the person working on site was doing the same? trying to help? I hope warters carried out the correct precautions for sub contract work on the highways and the associated H&S, PPE and telling the council he was doing this work.. as he is claiming the derwenthorpe development failed to do.
lets face it this guy is a muppet!! when the build isnt completed on time he will be moaning, yet when they maybe try and play catch up he is moaning. Plenty of large developments, they dont actually know who is working on site,. warters as took it upon himself to repair someone elses verges in the rain? very strange if you ask me.. maybe the person working on site was doing the same? trying to help? I hope warters carried out the correct precautions for sub contract work on the highways and the associated H&S, PPE and telling the council he was doing this work.. as he is claiming the derwenthorpe development failed to do. baileyuk
  • Score: -34

8:53am Sat 31 May 14

yourkidding says...

all this fuss.and yet tang hall lane is a death trap with mud when it rains .mr w.
all this fuss.and yet tang hall lane is a death trap with mud when it rains .mr w. yourkidding
  • Score: -6

10:24am Sat 31 May 14

bjb says...

Sour grapes from a guy that cost us council tax payers millions of pounds fighting spurious village green, rare newt and loss of local public amenity that never was.

He is not going to give up and admit defeat. He will keep putting spanners in the works to hinder and delay this development as much as he can.

The losers being the people who are waiting for new homes, the developers who are trying to make a profit in hard economic times and yet again us council tax payers who will have to pick up any shortfall.
Sour grapes from a guy that cost us council tax payers millions of pounds fighting spurious village green, rare newt and loss of local public amenity that never was. He is not going to give up and admit defeat. He will keep putting spanners in the works to hinder and delay this development as much as he can. The losers being the people who are waiting for new homes, the developers who are trying to make a profit in hard economic times and yet again us council tax payers who will have to pick up any shortfall. bjb
  • Score: 4

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