UPDATED: Plans for new look market unveiled

An artist's impression of the market, looking north from near the foot of Shambles. Pic by Bauman Lyons.

An artist's impression of the market, looking north from near the foot of Shambles. Pic by Bauman Lyons.

Updated in News York Press: Photograph of the Author by , Business editor

CITY leaders have unveiled designs showing how Newgate Market could look after its £1.5m redevelopment.

Prototype new stalls will be unveiled this weekend, following an 18-month consultation with traders, residents and businesses.

A City of York Council spokeswoman said: "All those consulted agreed that the south-eastern end of the market needed to become more vibrant and that music and entertainment and more food on offer would enhance the market atmosphere.

"In addition, improved signage, promotion and information about the market was needed for traders and city centre users."

The council said improved infrastructure such as drainage and storage, with a better roof covering and lighting was also planned.

The spokeswoman added: "The new canopies have been designed to have a better, more weather resistant fit, while translucent fabric options are being trialled to allow more natural light – but not the heat – through in summer."

Councillor Sonja Crisp, cabinet member for leisure, culture and tourism, said the new designs aimed to encourage shoppers to move more freely and widely through the market, with a "broader range of stall types to further improve the breadth of shopping".

She added: "They will be encouraged to come more often, stay longer and so increase their spend, with an improved food offer and seating areas where live music will be encouraged.”

The council said research last autumn showed agreement that the market needed ‘sprucing up’, but some traders today aired concerns.

Colin McCormick, who has run his greetings cards and jewellery stall for six years, said: "I think they are spending too much. We don't need a lot changing, all we really asked for was better signage and better covering on the roofs.

"We've been told that from July 5 to November we are going out on to Parliament Street while they refurbish it, and everyone has been offered two stalls each.

"We trade off six at the moment, so how are we going to get that down to two?

"We also haven't been given much information at all about what will happen after the refurb."

Abby Cotia, who has run clothing stalls for nearly 40 years, added: "When we come back to Newgate after the refurb we have to re-apply for our stalls with no guarantees that we'll get as many as we had before or be in the same place.

"Customers know where we are, I have been here nearly 40 years. It is worrying for us not knowing what will happen as this is our livelihood.

"We are here for the purpose of business, not something that just looks flashy and leaves us going home empty handed."

Steve Franks, who runs Steve's Shoes, said: "We are encouraged to build up our business, which I have done from one to four stalls, and now I'm going to have to go back down to two stalls despite investing in stock.

"If this scheme improves the market then that's great, but I don't think it needs £1.5 million spending on it."

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12:09pm Thu 15 May 14

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

Good that the project is moving ahead. I'd imagine it to STALL (geddit?).
Good that the project is moving ahead. I'd imagine it to STALL (geddit?). Ignatius Lumpopo
  • Score: 6

3:34pm Thu 15 May 14

Fabius the Delayer says...

is That an artists impression??? it don't look finished.
maybe you could coloured it in.
don't you have any felt tips in the office...
is That an artists impression??? it don't look finished. maybe you could coloured it in. don't you have any felt tips in the office... Fabius the Delayer
  • Score: 4

3:59pm Thu 15 May 14

Tom6187 says...

They need to get rid of some of the crap stalls that sell cheap tat and replace them with stalls selling decent gear, and get some decent food sellers.
They need to get rid of some of the crap stalls that sell cheap tat and replace them with stalls selling decent gear, and get some decent food sellers. Tom6187
  • Score: -32

4:28pm Thu 15 May 14

old_geezer says...

Interesting perspective, looks like they're going to install a Tardis field to expand the market without increasing the size of the market square.
Interesting perspective, looks like they're going to install a Tardis field to expand the market without increasing the size of the market square. old_geezer
  • Score: 3

5:48pm Thu 15 May 14

Bailed Out says...

Painting by numbers !
Painting by numbers ! Bailed Out
  • Score: 1

6:29pm Thu 15 May 14

Alf Garnett says...

Tom6187 wrote:
They need to get rid of some of the crap stalls that sell cheap tat and replace them with stalls selling decent gear, and get some decent food sellers.
You are, of course, joking. Decent food stalls ? How about an excellent butcher, two excellent fishmongers, a superb cheese stall, very good fruit and veg. That's not a bad clutch in a smallish market. As for the crap, there are some excellent clothing, leather goods and shoe stalls all selling at reasonable prices and quality no worse than from major retailers. The trouble with you posh types is that you can't hack the real world.
[quote][p][bold]Tom6187[/bold] wrote: They need to get rid of some of the crap stalls that sell cheap tat and replace them with stalls selling decent gear, and get some decent food sellers.[/p][/quote]You are, of course, joking. Decent food stalls ? How about an excellent butcher, two excellent fishmongers, a superb cheese stall, very good fruit and veg. That's not a bad clutch in a smallish market. As for the crap, there are some excellent clothing, leather goods and shoe stalls all selling at reasonable prices and quality no worse than from major retailers. The trouble with you posh types is that you can't hack the real world. Alf Garnett
  • Score: 38

7:40pm Thu 15 May 14

offa says...

I'm 100% with Alf Garnet. Newgate has some excellent stalls.
I'm 100% with Alf Garnet. Newgate has some excellent stalls. offa
  • Score: 16

8:10pm Thu 15 May 14

JasBro says...

Fabius the Delayer wrote:
is That an artists impression??? it don't look finished.
maybe you could coloured it in.
don't you have any felt tips in the office...
Totally agree. Terrible drawing.

Most clients in the commercial world would expect better, even for much smaller projects.
[quote][p][bold]Fabius the Delayer[/bold] wrote: is That an artists impression??? it don't look finished. maybe you could coloured it in. don't you have any felt tips in the office...[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Terrible drawing. Most clients in the commercial world would expect better, even for much smaller projects. JasBro
  • Score: 4

12:44am Fri 16 May 14

Dave Ruddock says...

god help us. the council are involved, Its a market, not upper class market, thats stalls not open plan outside cafes etc, Are the council going for Oxford Street stalls ?? if so good bye market......
god help us. the council are involved, Its a market, not upper class market, thats stalls not open plan outside cafes etc, Are the council going for Oxford Street stalls ?? if so good bye market...... Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -29

12:14pm Fri 16 May 14

doltare says...

CYC don't give a stuff about the market they just have to spend this money as its a loan! traders and residents want the market back in Parliament St. They have ruined the market with events in the street, plus driving residents out with parking. Traders have been told to be quiet or loose stalls after refurb.
CYC don't give a stuff about the market they just have to spend this money as its a loan! traders and residents want the market back in Parliament St. They have ruined the market with events in the street, plus driving residents out with parking. Traders have been told to be quiet or loose stalls after refurb. doltare
  • Score: 0

2:00pm Fri 16 May 14

meme says...

It needs a focal point to encourage tourists to go there by default
It needs a focal point to encourage tourists to go there by default meme
  • Score: 1

2:05pm Fri 16 May 14

meme says...

doesn't sound like much consultation has been satisfactory with traders!!
but that's CoYC for you
doesn't sound like much consultation has been satisfactory with traders!! but that's CoYC for you meme
  • Score: -2

5:02pm Fri 16 May 14

Alf Garnett says...

meme wrote:
It needs a focal point to encourage tourists to go there by default
How about an historic street adjacent, perhaps like, um, the Shambles ?
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: It needs a focal point to encourage tourists to go there by default[/p][/quote]How about an historic street adjacent, perhaps like, um, the Shambles ? Alf Garnett
  • Score: 1

1:12pm Thu 22 May 14

Just_My_Twopenneth says...

Let me add my TwoPenneth...


Firstly... the market (Newgate) has been being discussed for 18 Months or so, regarding it's revamp, by all accounts given in the York Press

Now there is just over a month to go, before the traders are moved out onto Parliament St (5th July 2014) whilst the revamp takes place.

THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM SAYS:
"WHY ARE THEY; CoYC & Bauman Lyons(The planners/architects)
; just currently at the 'Artists Impression Stage on May 15th 2014 ?!".

This is ridiculous, the final and fixed plans should be ready by now, so that they put out a 'tender' for the contract, for the revamp.

Anybody wish to guess where the lions share of the £1.5Million has gone!!! NO PRIZES for the correct and obvious answers here!!!!

The artists impression, simply looks like the current stall types/frames turned around; so OK they are going to put some newer technology canopies onto them, but I don't see how that adds up to £1,5M?; BESIDES what is going to happen to the other end of the market, i.e. opposite the current (Butchers/Cheese/Fis
h) kiosks?

I rest my case, never mind unveiling the new stalls, how about unveiling the finished plans, rather than shoving an artists impression in the Press, just about 6 weeks before the revamp occurs.

I am shocked... Are these folks real?

Please tell me, if I missed anything here?
Let me add my TwoPenneth... Firstly... the market (Newgate) has been being discussed for 18 Months or so, regarding it's revamp, by all accounts given in the York Press Now there is just over a month to go, before the traders are moved out onto Parliament St (5th July 2014) whilst the revamp takes place. THE ELEPHANT IN THE ROOM SAYS: "WHY ARE THEY; CoYC & Bauman Lyons(The planners/architects) ; just currently at the 'Artists Impression Stage on May 15th 2014 ?!". This is ridiculous, the final and fixed plans should be ready by now, so that they put out a 'tender' for the contract, for the revamp. Anybody wish to guess where the lions share of the £1.5Million has gone!!! NO PRIZES for the correct and obvious answers here!!!! The artists impression, simply looks like the current stall types/frames turned around; so OK they are going to put some newer technology canopies onto them, but I don't see how that adds up to £1,5M?; BESIDES what is going to happen to the other end of the market, i.e. opposite the current (Butchers/Cheese/Fis h) kiosks? I rest my case, never mind unveiling the new stalls, how about unveiling the finished plans, rather than shoving an artists impression in the Press, just about 6 weeks before the revamp occurs. I am shocked... Are these folks real? Please tell me, if I missed anything here? Just_My_Twopenneth
  • Score: 1

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