Council ‘bullies’ lose driveway renting battle

York Press: Eric Pickles Eric Pickles

COMMUNITIES secretary Eric Pickles has successfully stopped council “bullies” from fining homeowners from renting out their driveways.

Mr Pickles recently announced his campaign to defend UK homeowners against what he described as “a back-door parking tax” and new government guidance will prevent councils and town halls from “stopping hard-working people from making a bit of extra cash from their homes."

In York, recent research by ParkatmyHouse.com, a website for renting our private parking spaces, estimated that driveways lying idle across the city are worth a massive £2423097.

Currently, the homeowner in York rents their driveway at an average of £6.77 per day.

Mr Pickles said: “We have cut petty state regulations to make renting out your driveway even easier.

”This is helping to provide more low-cost parking spaces for commuters, tourists and shoppers.”

The news to champion driveway rental comes following the recent announcement that as part of a trial in May, free parking will be offered in eight city centre car parks between 8am-11am on Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays.

Last year, town halls began threatening homeowners renting out their driveways with maximum fines of up to £20,000 but Mr Pickles branded them “over-zealous bullies.”

He said: “The new guidance is a slap in the face for town halls, advising that they ‘consider citizens’ ability to exercise their private property rights and benefit from the peaceful enjoyment of their possessions.”

Founder of ParkatmyHouse.com Anthony Eskinazi welcomed the news and said that the new guidance will hopefully encourage more people to join the 18,000 already renting out their driveways.

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10:49am Tue 22 Apr 14

the-e-man says...

Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!!
Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!! the-e-man
  • Score: 15

10:58am Tue 22 Apr 14

vax2002 says...

The day councils were given the "power" fine people was the death of British freedom.
They are acting like a private police force punishing hard working people vengefully.
If Mr Pickles wants something to do, restore justice back to the courts and remove the abused power of these councils.
Only a judge or magistrate has the lawful right under our bill of rights to fine anyone.
They abuse this by claiming they are penalties
This is written Law : THAT ALL GRANTS AND PROMISES OF FINES AND FORFEITURES OF PARTICULAR PERSONS BEFORE CONVICTION ARE ILLEGAL AND VOID..

Funny how the law only applies when it suits them and not us.
Get these parasites off our backs !
The day councils were given the "power" fine people was the death of British freedom. They are acting like a private police force punishing hard working people vengefully. If Mr Pickles wants something to do, restore justice back to the courts and remove the abused power of these councils. Only a judge or magistrate has the lawful right under our bill of rights to fine anyone. They abuse this by claiming they are penalties This is written Law : THAT ALL GRANTS AND PROMISES OF FINES AND FORFEITURES OF PARTICULAR PERSONS BEFORE CONVICTION ARE ILLEGAL AND VOID.. Funny how the law only applies when it suits them and not us. Get these parasites off our backs ! vax2002
  • Score: 28

11:00am Tue 22 Apr 14

again says...

the-e-man wrote:
Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!!
I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income.

As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems.
[quote][p][bold]the-e-man[/bold] wrote: Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!![/p][/quote]I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income. As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems. again
  • Score: -10

11:13am Tue 22 Apr 14

nowthen says...

again wrote:
the-e-man wrote:
Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!!
I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income.

As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems.
I'm glad in this case that central government has " interfered " ,as us residents don't have any say in the running of our City under the current administration.
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the-e-man[/bold] wrote: Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!![/p][/quote]I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income. As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems.[/p][/quote]I'm glad in this case that central government has " interfered " ,as us residents don't have any say in the running of our City under the current administration. nowthen
  • Score: 20

12:15pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Fat Harry says...

Brilliant!

If I rent my drive out, I'll finally be officially recognised as "hard-working" by both Eric Pickles and vax2002.

This is important because it allows me to hold and share opinions on all sorts of issues where my views didn't previously count because I wasn't part of a hard-working family.

I imagine Mr Pickles will be letting out both of his driveways, but earnestly hope he won't be claiming any resurfacing work on expenses.
Brilliant! If I rent my drive out, I'll finally be officially recognised as "hard-working" by both Eric Pickles and vax2002. This is important because it allows me to hold and share opinions on all sorts of issues where my views didn't previously count because I wasn't part of a hard-working family. I imagine Mr Pickles will be letting out both of his driveways, but earnestly hope he won't be claiming any resurfacing work on expenses. Fat Harry
  • Score: 12

12:34pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Badgers Drift says...

again wrote:
the-e-man wrote: Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!!
I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income. As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems.
When councils act unlawfully and illegally, it is welcomed that central government 'interferes'.

In the case of York Council, more 'intereference' is clearly reguired!!!
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the-e-man[/bold] wrote: Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!![/p][/quote]I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income. As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems.[/p][/quote]When councils act unlawfully and illegally, it is welcomed that central government 'interferes'. In the case of York Council, more 'intereference' is clearly reguired!!! Badgers Drift
  • Score: -16

1:46pm Tue 22 Apr 14

pbrowne2009@live.co.uk says...

I rent my home, I pay over the odds to keep a roof over my head. I can't even save for a deposit to buy my own home. I wonder if I can rent my driveway to bring in some additional income? Or would my landlady see this as another opportunity to exploit the private renting community to rake in more money on top of her rent income? Who knows
I rent my home, I pay over the odds to keep a roof over my head. I can't even save for a deposit to buy my own home. I wonder if I can rent my driveway to bring in some additional income? Or would my landlady see this as another opportunity to exploit the private renting community to rake in more money on top of her rent income? Who knows pbrowne2009@live.co.uk
  • Score: 10

2:01pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Woody G Mellor says...

the-e-man wrote:
Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!!
Not if we don't tell anyone. HA!
[quote][p][bold]the-e-man[/bold] wrote: Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!![/p][/quote]Not if we don't tell anyone. HA! Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -13

2:13pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

pbrowne2009@live.co.
uk
wrote:
I rent my home, I pay over the odds to keep a roof over my head. I can't even save for a deposit to buy my own home. I wonder if I can rent my driveway to bring in some additional income? Or would my landlady see this as another opportunity to exploit the private renting community to rake in more money on top of her rent income? Who knows
Ask her. If you had a car, would the space be yours or would you have to pay more to park there? If the former, have a word with her. If she's not bothered, go for it. I know someone who rents who gets enough back to cover the monthly gas and electricity bills - with the landlord's permission.

If you don't ask, you'll never know.
[quote][p][bold]pbrowne2009@live.co. uk[/bold] wrote: I rent my home, I pay over the odds to keep a roof over my head. I can't even save for a deposit to buy my own home. I wonder if I can rent my driveway to bring in some additional income? Or would my landlady see this as another opportunity to exploit the private renting community to rake in more money on top of her rent income? Who knows[/p][/quote]Ask her. If you had a car, would the space be yours or would you have to pay more to park there? If the former, have a word with her. If she's not bothered, go for it. I know someone who rents who gets enough back to cover the monthly gas and electricity bills - with the landlord's permission. If you don't ask, you'll never know. Ignatius Lumpopo
  • Score: 11

3:56pm Tue 22 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

Might be helpful if the driver who is renting chooses to carry a folding bike in his boot, to complete the final stage of his journey.
Might be helpful if the driver who is renting chooses to carry a folding bike in his boot, to complete the final stage of his journey. pedalling paul
  • Score: 14

5:54pm Tue 22 Apr 14

the-e-man says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
the-e-man wrote:
Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!!
Not if we don't tell anyone. HA!
Could not agree more.
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the-e-man[/bold] wrote: Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!![/p][/quote]Not if we don't tell anyone. HA![/p][/quote]Could not agree more. the-e-man
  • Score: 1

7:59pm Tue 22 Apr 14

petethefeet says...

vax2002 wrote:
The day councils were given the "power" fine people was the death of British freedom.
They are acting like a private police force punishing hard working people vengefully.
If Mr Pickles wants something to do, restore justice back to the courts and remove the abused power of these councils.
Only a judge or magistrate has the lawful right under our bill of rights to fine anyone.
They abuse this by claiming they are penalties
This is written Law : THAT ALL GRANTS AND PROMISES OF FINES AND FORFEITURES OF PARTICULAR PERSONS BEFORE CONVICTION ARE ILLEGAL AND VOID..

Funny how the law only applies when it suits them and not us.
Get these parasites off our backs !
We have no bill of rights. We are 'subjects' of an absolute monarch who has elected to delegate those total powers to an elected parliament. That body can chose to transfer those powers (e.g to Europe) or empower officials & bodies as they see fit!
[quote][p][bold]vax2002[/bold] wrote: The day councils were given the "power" fine people was the death of British freedom. They are acting like a private police force punishing hard working people vengefully. If Mr Pickles wants something to do, restore justice back to the courts and remove the abused power of these councils. Only a judge or magistrate has the lawful right under our bill of rights to fine anyone. They abuse this by claiming they are penalties This is written Law : THAT ALL GRANTS AND PROMISES OF FINES AND FORFEITURES OF PARTICULAR PERSONS BEFORE CONVICTION ARE ILLEGAL AND VOID.. Funny how the law only applies when it suits them and not us. Get these parasites off our backs ![/p][/quote]We have no bill of rights. We are 'subjects' of an absolute monarch who has elected to delegate those total powers to an elected parliament. That body can chose to transfer those powers (e.g to Europe) or empower officials & bodies as they see fit! petethefeet
  • Score: 3

10:34pm Tue 22 Apr 14

Pinza-C55 says...

again wrote:
the-e-man wrote:
Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!!
I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income.

As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems.
I wouldn't say this is a "local issue" it is a national issue. Either councils have the right to do this or they don't. Although I have neither a car or a driveway, if I did I cannot see what it has to do with the council whose car is parked there.
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the-e-man[/bold] wrote: Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!![/p][/quote]I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income. As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't say this is a "local issue" it is a national issue. Either councils have the right to do this or they don't. Although I have neither a car or a driveway, if I did I cannot see what it has to do with the council whose car is parked there. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 3

9:48am Wed 23 Apr 14

Firedrake says...

No Bill of Rights, Pete? What about 1689? (I think that's what vax was quoting.) As far as I know, it is still substantially in force; though no-doubt much altered, modified and "interpreted" as the needs arise and contexts change!
No Bill of Rights, Pete? What about 1689? (I think that's what vax was quoting.) As far as I know, it is still substantially in force; though no-doubt much altered, modified and "interpreted" as the needs arise and contexts change! Firedrake
  • Score: 0

11:34am Wed 23 Apr 14

Pinza-C55 says...

petethefeet wrote:
vax2002 wrote:
The day councils were given the "power" fine people was the death of British freedom.
They are acting like a private police force punishing hard working people vengefully.
If Mr Pickles wants something to do, restore justice back to the courts and remove the abused power of these councils.
Only a judge or magistrate has the lawful right under our bill of rights to fine anyone.
They abuse this by claiming they are penalties
This is written Law : THAT ALL GRANTS AND PROMISES OF FINES AND FORFEITURES OF PARTICULAR PERSONS BEFORE CONVICTION ARE ILLEGAL AND VOID..

Funny how the law only applies when it suits them and not us.
Get these parasites off our backs !
We have no bill of rights. We are 'subjects' of an absolute monarch who has elected to delegate those total powers to an elected parliament. That body can chose to transfer those powers (e.g to Europe) or empower officials & bodies as they see fit!
Truth. As George Carlin said "There are no such things as rights otherwise they couldn't be granted to you or taken away. "Rights" are just temporary privileges granted by governments".

https://www.youtube.
com/watch?v=hWiBt-pq
p0E
[quote][p][bold]petethefeet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]vax2002[/bold] wrote: The day councils were given the "power" fine people was the death of British freedom. They are acting like a private police force punishing hard working people vengefully. If Mr Pickles wants something to do, restore justice back to the courts and remove the abused power of these councils. Only a judge or magistrate has the lawful right under our bill of rights to fine anyone. They abuse this by claiming they are penalties This is written Law : THAT ALL GRANTS AND PROMISES OF FINES AND FORFEITURES OF PARTICULAR PERSONS BEFORE CONVICTION ARE ILLEGAL AND VOID.. Funny how the law only applies when it suits them and not us. Get these parasites off our backs ![/p][/quote]We have no bill of rights. We are 'subjects' of an absolute monarch who has elected to delegate those total powers to an elected parliament. That body can chose to transfer those powers (e.g to Europe) or empower officials & bodies as they see fit![/p][/quote]Truth. As George Carlin said "There are no such things as rights otherwise they couldn't be granted to you or taken away. "Rights" are just temporary privileges granted by governments". https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=hWiBt-pq p0E Pinza-C55
  • Score: 2

8:40pm Wed 23 Apr 14

What-a-joke-they-are says...

again wrote:
the-e-man wrote:
Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!!
I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income.

As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems.
When the local government get out of hand with their bridge closures, 20zones, CCTV stealth tax mobiles, idiotic local plans etc - who else have we to support us?

Local (and central) government are 'staffed' as it were by 'normal' people like you and I

The only issue with this is you and I have no agenda, whereas the majority of people in office do.

There are very few selfless people in politics- we need more to balance out the power hungry Alexander, Merritt and Simpson-Laings in the world

Ever heard of the vocal minority?
[quote][p][bold]again[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the-e-man[/bold] wrote: Good news. The taxpayer should also benefit of course because income from renting out your drive is taxable !!![/p][/quote]I've no doubt the government will next allow people to declare their driveways a tax haven. You can imagine the extra work for HMRC when all the SAYE taxpayers suddenly have a modest additional income. As it is, this may be a victory for hard working oppressed motorists but is also another example where central government interferes in local issues. Something they increasingly like to do, it seems.[/p][/quote]When the local government get out of hand with their bridge closures, 20zones, CCTV stealth tax mobiles, idiotic local plans etc - who else have we to support us? Local (and central) government are 'staffed' as it were by 'normal' people like you and I The only issue with this is you and I have no agenda, whereas the majority of people in office do. There are very few selfless people in politics- we need more to balance out the power hungry Alexander, Merritt and Simpson-Laings in the world Ever heard of the vocal minority? What-a-joke-they-are
  • Score: 1

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