Ban on right turns from Lendal is reinstated after bridge is re-opened

Drivers have been banned from making a right turn out of the Lendal area of York.

Drivers have been banned from making a right turn out of the Lendal area of York.

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MOTORISTS have once again been banned from making a right turn out of Lendal, following the re-opening of Lendal Bridge to traffic.

But transport bosses say the road network has operated well without the ban and they will now look into whether it should be removed permanently.

For many years, drivers emerging from Lendal into Museum Street and wanting to head towards the Minster, Bootham and Gillygate were barred from turning right by City of York Council.

Instead, they had to turn left and face a lengthy diversion across the bridge to Station Rise, through the City Walls before turning right and coming back across the bridge to Museum Street.

But during the trial closure of the bridge to cars, motorbikes,lorries and vans between 10.30am and 5pm, the rules were changed and drivers had to turn right towards the Minster instead of left towards the bridge.

However, now that the trial closure of the bridge has been abandoned by the authority, the ban on right turns has been reinstated - at least for the time being.

Council director Darren Richardson said the Lendal Bridge trial had included an experimental traffic regulation order to remove the old ban on right turn bans in to Museum Street, and also from Museum Street into Library Square.

"The decision taken to end the trial and therefore withdraw the Experimental TRO means that both right turn bans have now been reinstated," he said.

“However, we recognise that the road network has operated well with the bans removed and many people will want to see this element of the Lendal Bridge trial retained.

"Officers have started a study to assess the impacts of permanently removing the right turn bans and could be in a position to make proposals for members to consider by June.”

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8:57am Fri 18 Apr 14

Tiv says...

Personally I do not mind not being able to turn right as I enjoy driving over Lendal Bridge in my car. :-)
Personally I do not mind not being able to turn right as I enjoy driving over Lendal Bridge in my car. :-) Tiv
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9:07am Fri 18 Apr 14

anth!! says...

Stuck on lendal bridge more like.
Stuck on lendal bridge more like. anth!!
  • Score: 22

9:24am Fri 18 Apr 14

oi oi savaloy says...

LOL!!

"Officers have started a study to assess the impacts of permanently removing the right turn bans and could be in a position to make proposals for members to consider by June.”

what we the citizens need is a council made up of citizens representing the citizen, instead of this bunch of idiots all just wasting and lining their pockets with our money!
LOL!! "Officers have started a study to assess the impacts of permanently removing the right turn bans and could be in a position to make proposals for members to consider by June.” what we the citizens need is a council made up of citizens representing the citizen, instead of this bunch of idiots all just wasting and lining their pockets with our money! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -27

9:53am Fri 18 Apr 14

LibDem says...

The Council admitted yesterday that the decision to remove the access restrictions on Lendal Bridge - apparently made solely by James Alexander - needs to be ratified by the Cabinet when it meets on 6th May.

Removing signs might be a bit premature.
The Council admitted yesterday that the decision to remove the access restrictions on Lendal Bridge - apparently made solely by James Alexander - needs to be ratified by the Cabinet when it meets on 6th May. Removing signs might be a bit premature. LibDem
  • Score: 35

10:48am Fri 18 Apr 14

RingoStarr says...

Ah, CYC. 'U turns' OK but 'Right turns' not!
Ah, CYC. 'U turns' OK but 'Right turns' not! RingoStarr
  • Score: -15

11:32am Fri 18 Apr 14

excabbie says...

There isn't much traffic that can legally use lendal during the day anyway, legally there isn't much traffic that can use it at night time aswell, but that part of the pedestrianisation is very rarely policed, so it isn't a great problem for the general public, but after the rush hour taxis and private hire vehicles should be given an exemption, just so passengers aren't charged for going round station rise to get to there destinations with out having to pay an extra £1 plus on their fares, this route round is time consuming on the drivers and customers and both would rather not have to do it!
There isn't much traffic that can legally use lendal during the day anyway, legally there isn't much traffic that can use it at night time aswell, but that part of the pedestrianisation is very rarely policed, so it isn't a great problem for the general public, but after the rush hour taxis and private hire vehicles should be given an exemption, just so passengers aren't charged for going round station rise to get to there destinations with out having to pay an extra £1 plus on their fares, this route round is time consuming on the drivers and customers and both would rather not have to do it! excabbie
  • Score: -39

12:39pm Fri 18 Apr 14

mitch2nd says...

Do we really care, walk! we do
Do we really care, walk! we do mitch2nd
  • Score: 2

1:29pm Fri 18 Apr 14

again says...

Another attack on the hard working motorist!
Another attack on the hard working motorist! again
  • Score: -18

3:49pm Fri 18 Apr 14

j.clarke says...

Just turn right. If you get issued a fine, take it to the top and make york council realise what they're doing is illegal just like the whole Lendal bridge/coppergate carry-on!
Just turn right. If you get issued a fine, take it to the top and make york council realise what they're doing is illegal just like the whole Lendal bridge/coppergate carry-on! j.clarke
  • Score: -33

4:39pm Fri 18 Apr 14

anth!! says...

j.clarke wrote:
Just turn right. If you get issued a fine, take it to the top and make york council realise what they're doing is illegal just like the whole Lendal bridge/coppergate carry-on!
Or aye, so just ignore traffic signs, you sound a responsible motorist.
[quote][p][bold]j.clarke[/bold] wrote: Just turn right. If you get issued a fine, take it to the top and make york council realise what they're doing is illegal just like the whole Lendal bridge/coppergate carry-on![/p][/quote]Or aye, so just ignore traffic signs, you sound a responsible motorist. anth!!
  • Score: 27

6:29pm Fri 18 Apr 14

excabbie says...

j.clarke wrote:
Just turn right. If you get issued a fine, take it to the top and make york council realise what they're doing is illegal just like the whole Lendal bridge/coppergate carry-on!
It isn't a council matter, the police issue no right/left turn tickets
[quote][p][bold]j.clarke[/bold] wrote: Just turn right. If you get issued a fine, take it to the top and make york council realise what they're doing is illegal just like the whole Lendal bridge/coppergate carry-on![/p][/quote]It isn't a council matter, the police issue no right/left turn tickets excabbie
  • Score: 11

8:31pm Fri 18 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

I've personally seen some horrendous delays caused by attempted illegal right turns at this junction. Taxi drivers whose passengers prefer a lower fare are one group of culprits. Likewise the No Right Turn ban t'other way on Museum St into Library Square. Cyclists and pedestrians going along/ crossing Museum St.are still placed at risk by such unexpected manouvers.
I've personally seen some horrendous delays caused by attempted illegal right turns at this junction. Taxi drivers whose passengers prefer a lower fare are one group of culprits. Likewise the No Right Turn ban t'other way on Museum St into Library Square. Cyclists and pedestrians going along/ crossing Museum St.are still placed at risk by such unexpected manouvers. pedalling paul
  • Score: -7

11:32pm Fri 18 Apr 14

mel_drew says...

There's no good reason to legalise right turns into Library Square that I can see, but with a properly marked box junction a right turn out of Lendal should be fairly feasible.
There's no good reason to legalise right turns into Library Square that I can see, but with a properly marked box junction a right turn out of Lendal should be fairly feasible. mel_drew
  • Score: 0

1:03am Sat 19 Apr 14

jake777 says...

j.clarke wrote:
Just turn right. If you get issued a fine, take it to the top and make york council realise what they're doing is illegal just like the whole Lendal bridge/coppergate carry-on!
another with no brains got a licence out of a lucky bag did we .
[quote][p][bold]j.clarke[/bold] wrote: Just turn right. If you get issued a fine, take it to the top and make york council realise what they're doing is illegal just like the whole Lendal bridge/coppergate carry-on![/p][/quote]another with no brains got a licence out of a lucky bag did we . jake777
  • Score: 6

1:20am Sat 19 Apr 14

york_chap says...

Never really understood why this right turn was banned in the first place, to be honest. Given how few vehicles actually use Lendal, it would hardly cause anarchy if some of them turned right at the end. The only possible reason I can see for the restriction is to stop long delivery lorries turning right and crunching the traffic island on Museum Street. That said, any truck driver approaching the junction should have enough gumption to realise they won't make a right turn successfully and turn left instead anyway. Effectively, the restriction just serves to direct (albeit a few) extra vehicles needlessly round the Station Rise gyratory system and over Lendal Bridge.

On that note, I wish the council would consider opening up the war memorial roundabout at the end of Clifford Street. I cannot see any practical benefit whatsoever in the current set-up of sending traffic all the way round the Fishergate gyratory system when it has no need to go around there.
Never really understood why this right turn was banned in the first place, to be honest. Given how few vehicles actually use Lendal, it would hardly cause anarchy if some of them turned right at the end. The only possible reason I can see for the restriction is to stop long delivery lorries turning right and crunching the traffic island on Museum Street. That said, any truck driver approaching the junction should have enough gumption to realise they won't make a right turn successfully and turn left instead anyway. Effectively, the restriction just serves to direct (albeit a few) extra vehicles needlessly round the Station Rise gyratory system and over Lendal Bridge. On that note, I wish the council would consider opening up the war memorial roundabout at the end of Clifford Street. I cannot see any practical benefit whatsoever in the current set-up of sending traffic all the way round the Fishergate gyratory system when it has no need to go around there. york_chap
  • Score: 5

7:17am Sat 19 Apr 14

carpon says...

Right turn should be allowed for Taxi and Private Hire , not only does this help to keep fares down to the resident but also the visitor as well. It does not make sense having to go all the way round by the station . As a matter of saftey I cannot ever recall any serious accident at this junction to implement the no right turn in the first place. I also fully agree with the comments regarding Clifford Street roundabout - make it a roundabout . I suppose I will get at least -1000 for my comment !
Right turn should be allowed for Taxi and Private Hire , not only does this help to keep fares down to the resident but also the visitor as well. It does not make sense having to go all the way round by the station . As a matter of saftey I cannot ever recall any serious accident at this junction to implement the no right turn in the first place. I also fully agree with the comments regarding Clifford Street roundabout - make it a roundabout . I suppose I will get at least -1000 for my comment ! carpon
  • Score: -5

12:42pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Sage9 says...

What amused me was the number of vehicles that went straight over to the museum garden gates did a "three point turn" on the forecourt and then joined traffic heading to the minster. No right turn there!!
What amused me was the number of vehicles that went straight over to the museum garden gates did a "three point turn" on the forecourt and then joined traffic heading to the minster. No right turn there!! Sage9
  • Score: 2

12:49pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Sage9 says...

"MOTORISTS have once again been banned from making a right turn out of Lendal, following the re-opening of Lendal Bridge to traffic. But transport bosses say the road network has operated well without the ban and they will now look into whether it should be removed permanently."

So ... we have reinstated the right hand ban, thus cannot see the effects of allowing traffic to turn right works whilst the bridge is open. However, we are considering removing the ban permanently. I suggest a trial period with cameras to be implemented after a feasibility study. Should cost no more tan £100k.
"MOTORISTS have once again been banned from making a right turn out of Lendal, following the re-opening of Lendal Bridge to traffic. But transport bosses say the road network has operated well without the ban and they will now look into whether it should be removed permanently." So ... we have reinstated the right hand ban, thus cannot see the effects of allowing traffic to turn right works whilst the bridge is open. However, we are considering removing the ban permanently. I suggest a trial period with cameras to be implemented after a feasibility study. Should cost no more tan £100k. Sage9
  • Score: 2

2:05pm Sun 20 Apr 14

mmarshal says...

LibDem wrote:
The Council admitted yesterday that the decision to remove the access restrictions on Lendal Bridge - apparently made solely by James Alexander - needs to be ratified by the Cabinet when it meets on 6th May.

Removing signs might be a bit premature.
Surely James Alexander can't have acted in haste again???
[quote][p][bold]LibDem[/bold] wrote: The Council admitted yesterday that the decision to remove the access restrictions on Lendal Bridge - apparently made solely by James Alexander - needs to be ratified by the Cabinet when it meets on 6th May. Removing signs might be a bit premature.[/p][/quote]Surely James Alexander can't have acted in haste again??? mmarshal
  • Score: -4

5:22am Tue 22 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

york_chap wrote:
Never really understood why this right turn was banned in the first place, to be honest. Given how few vehicles actually use Lendal, it would hardly cause anarchy if some of them turned right at the end. The only possible reason I can see for the restriction is to stop long delivery lorries turning right and crunching the traffic island on Museum Street. That said, any truck driver approaching the junction should have enough gumption to realise they won't make a right turn successfully and turn left instead anyway. Effectively, the restriction just serves to direct (albeit a few) extra vehicles needlessly round the Station Rise gyratory system and over Lendal Bridge.

On that note, I wish the council would consider opening up the war memorial roundabout at the end of Clifford Street. I cannot see any practical benefit whatsoever in the current set-up of sending traffic all the way round the Fishergate gyratory system when it has no need to go around there.
I've said that for a while... make it a full roundabout, and whilst they're at it put a roundabout at the Piccadilly junction too (with 1 lane of traffic from Tower Street to Piccadilly thus giving more chances for traffic to emerge from Piccadilly).

It's worth remembering the council plans to get rid of the bus turning circle at Exhibition Square... so it seems to dislike the idea of diverting a handful of cars from Lendal over the bridge and around the gyratory to come the other way, yet is in favour of diverting buses from even further away on that same diversion route.... because that won't make the buses run late will it?!
[quote][p][bold]york_chap[/bold] wrote: Never really understood why this right turn was banned in the first place, to be honest. Given how few vehicles actually use Lendal, it would hardly cause anarchy if some of them turned right at the end. The only possible reason I can see for the restriction is to stop long delivery lorries turning right and crunching the traffic island on Museum Street. That said, any truck driver approaching the junction should have enough gumption to realise they won't make a right turn successfully and turn left instead anyway. Effectively, the restriction just serves to direct (albeit a few) extra vehicles needlessly round the Station Rise gyratory system and over Lendal Bridge. On that note, I wish the council would consider opening up the war memorial roundabout at the end of Clifford Street. I cannot see any practical benefit whatsoever in the current set-up of sending traffic all the way round the Fishergate gyratory system when it has no need to go around there.[/p][/quote]I've said that for a while... make it a full roundabout, and whilst they're at it put a roundabout at the Piccadilly junction too (with 1 lane of traffic from Tower Street to Piccadilly thus giving more chances for traffic to emerge from Piccadilly). It's worth remembering the council plans to get rid of the bus turning circle at Exhibition Square... so it seems to dislike the idea of diverting a handful of cars from Lendal over the bridge and around the gyratory to come the other way, yet is in favour of diverting buses from even further away on that same diversion route.... because that won't make the buses run late will it?! Magicman!
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