Cabinet shake up removes Lendal Bridge councillor from Transport role

Cabinet shake up removes Lendal Bridge councillor from Transport role

Cabinet shake up removes Lendal Bridge councillor from Transport role

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THE councillor at the centre of the Lendal Bridge closure has been removed as York’s transport chief.

City of York Council leader James Alexander has announced a reshuffle, making David Levene cabinet member for transport and Dave Merrett member for environmental services, planning and sustainability.

Cllr Merrett came under fire over the trial closure of Lendal Bridge, which has been abandoned.

He was also in the hotseat earlier this week when it was revealed a new cycle route from Haxby to Clifton Moor has increased in cost to £1.3 million.

Cllr Alexander said: “I have always ensured all members of the cabinet had responsibilities that made best use of their talents and efforts as required.

“Cllr Dave Merrett will gain the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”.

Cllr Merrett said: “I have contributed over many years to transport in this city and tried to meet the growing challenges of a growing city head on. However, building a new consensus on transport needs a new face.

"There is an intense period ahead delivering the Local Plan and I welcome the support Cllr Alexander has shown me in asking me to turn my efforts to new challenges in environmental services, planning and sustainability - especially with regards to improving recycling.”

Lib Dem Cllr Ann Reid, who had called for Cllr Merrett to resign, said: “I do think residents of York will see Dave Merrett moving away from transport as a good thing.”

Green leader Andy D’Agorne said: “I am not surprised that Dave Merrett is moving from transport but I have no confidence that any other Labour cabinet member will address the congestion issue.”

The reshuffle also sees Cllr Tracey Simpson-Laing take up the new portfolio of Homes and Safer Communities, replacing Cllr Linsay Cunningham-Cross on North Yorkshire’s Police and Crime Panel.

Cllr Cunningham Cross takes the new portfolio of Health and Community Engagement and will chair the Health and Wellbeing Board.

Cllr Alexander said the changes would allow him to show how important Labour believe tackling crime and antisocial behaviour is.

He said: “We will focus on York’s local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.”

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5:54pm Wed 16 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Coun Alexander:
We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.

You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real".
Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real". YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: 4776

5:56pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Woody G Mellor says...

Coun Alexander:
We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.

Keep ignoring us by wasting our money on the 20mph blanket idiocy, and you won't stand a chance.
Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. Keep ignoring us by wasting our money on the 20mph blanket idiocy, and you won't stand a chance. Woody G Mellor
  • Score: 3510

5:56pm Wed 16 Apr 14

petethefeet says...

Having spent 40 years working for a large monolithic organisation one can easily spot the machinations of a clueless leadership team. They believe that a musical-chairs like reorganisation will cure all their ills. Wrong!
Having spent 40 years working for a large monolithic organisation one can easily spot the machinations of a clueless leadership team. They believe that a musical-chairs like reorganisation will cure all their ills. Wrong! petethefeet
  • Score: 2568

6:00pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Pinza-C55 says...

I'd be interested to see what Sir Alan Sugar would say to these lot.
I'd be interested to see what Sir Alan Sugar would say to these lot. Pinza-C55
  • Score: 2201

6:01pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Garrowby Turnoff says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Coun Alexander:
We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.

You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real".
A weeks a long time in politics. The silent majority of people York will return a labour council even if they'd robbed the coffers of every penny it'd got.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real".[/p][/quote]A weeks a long time in politics. The silent majority of people York will return a labour council even if they'd robbed the coffers of every penny it'd got. Garrowby Turnoff
  • Score: 2090

6:01pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

Dear oh dear, what will pp/Hepworth do now as he sees his world of cycling domination falling around his feet, or will this new guy be even more radicle, as for a con/lib coalition taking control of the council, I for one hope that it will happen, it'll make a better job that one single party, particularly when that party is labour!!!!!
Dear oh dear, what will pp/Hepworth do now as he sees his world of cycling domination falling around his feet, or will this new guy be even more radicle, as for a con/lib coalition taking control of the council, I for one hope that it will happen, it'll make a better job that one single party, particularly when that party is labour!!!!! Igiveinthen
  • Score: 3231

6:02pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Hereiamagainhaha says...

Mmmmm........
Mmmmm........ Hereiamagainhaha
  • Score: 2364

6:27pm Wed 16 Apr 14

petethefeet says...

Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Coun Alexander:
We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.

You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real".
A weeks a long time in politics. The silent majority of people York will return a labour council even if they'd robbed the coffers of every penny it'd got.
I suspect you are right. I know it's my hobby-horse but it's my observation that labour are intrinsically useless with managing money.
[quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real".[/p][/quote]A weeks a long time in politics. The silent majority of people York will return a labour council even if they'd robbed the coffers of every penny it'd got.[/p][/quote]I suspect you are right. I know it's my hobby-horse but it's my observation that labour are intrinsically useless with managing money. petethefeet
  • Score: 2802

6:28pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Yadontsay! says...

Hurray at last! "Coun Alexander said: "I have always ensured all members of the Cabinet had responsibilities that made best use of their talents and efforts as required" Ha! That's a gudun - how can that be the case as Dave Merrett does not even drive a car nor James Alexander! So how can they have been making best use of his talents?! Absolute madness - let's hope the new guy is a motorist and knows what he's doing. Great news!
Hurray at last! "Coun Alexander said: "I have always ensured all members of the Cabinet had responsibilities that made best use of their talents and efforts as required" Ha! That's a gudun - how can that be the case as Dave Merrett does not even drive a car nor James Alexander! So how can they have been making best use of his talents?! Absolute madness - let's hope the new guy is a motorist and knows what he's doing. Great news! Yadontsay!
  • Score: 2350

6:42pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

Yadontsay! wrote:
Hurray at last! "Coun Alexander said: "I have always ensured all members of the Cabinet had responsibilities that made best use of their talents and efforts as required" Ha! That's a gudun - how can that be the case as Dave Merrett does not even drive a car nor James Alexander! So how can they have been making best use of his talents?! Absolute madness - let's hope the new guy is a motorist and knows what he's doing. Great news!
Couldn't agree more!
[quote][p][bold]Yadontsay![/bold] wrote: Hurray at last! "Coun Alexander said: "I have always ensured all members of the Cabinet had responsibilities that made best use of their talents and efforts as required" Ha! That's a gudun - how can that be the case as Dave Merrett does not even drive a car nor James Alexander! So how can they have been making best use of his talents?! Absolute madness - let's hope the new guy is a motorist and knows what he's doing. Great news![/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more! Igiveinthen
  • Score: 2473

6:49pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jay, york says...

So, little jimmy removes merrett from transport and expects everything to be ok again. NO - he really does need to think again. He's made his first mention of 2015 elections on Radio York tonight, so we know where his thinking lies now (me,me,me)..
I understand from FOI e-mails obtained by Minster FM that CoYC hope that 20 mph zones wont become controversial. Got news for you guys - they already are! Its like the sequel to Lendal Bridge fiasco.Semlyen should be the next to go
I would still like to ask a couple of question though -
1. can CoYC please provide me with a list of retailers in York city centre that are open at 8am so that I can take full advantage of the free car parking they are offering and improve the traders business
2. can CoYC please explain to me how to pay for car parking in the designated car parks. If II arrive at the car park around 10am - which is what I normally do, I will get one hour free on some days of the week- and however long I choose to stay is to be paid for. How do I do that? Its easy at the end of the day - pay until 6pm and then its free for residents until 8am next morning (but for how long?)
Simple questions really? Any answers fromj CoYC????
So, little jimmy removes merrett from transport and expects everything to be ok again. NO - he really does need to think again. He's made his first mention of 2015 elections on Radio York tonight, so we know where his thinking lies now (me,me,me).. I understand from FOI e-mails obtained by Minster FM that CoYC hope that 20 mph zones wont become controversial. Got news for you guys - they already are! Its like the sequel to Lendal Bridge fiasco.Semlyen should be the next to go I would still like to ask a couple of question though - 1. can CoYC please provide me with a list of retailers in York city centre that are open at 8am so that I can take full advantage of the free car parking they are offering and improve the traders business 2. can CoYC please explain to me how to pay for car parking in the designated car parks. If II arrive at the car park around 10am - which is what I normally do, I will get one hour free on some days of the week- and however long I choose to stay is to be paid for. How do I do that? Its easy at the end of the day - pay until 6pm and then its free for residents until 8am next morning (but for how long?) Simple questions really? Any answers fromj CoYC???? jay, york
  • Score: 2326

7:01pm Wed 16 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Right on Cue.

From Minster FM, seems things are being evened up the Labour way.
"Anna,"
"If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up."
"Thanks - Dave."
Right on Cue. From Minster FM, seems things are being evened up the Labour way. "Anna," "If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up." "Thanks - Dave." YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: 2070

7:11pm Wed 16 Apr 14

itsjustme2 says...

What a cop out by the YCC; Merrett should have lost his job!!!
What a cop out by the YCC; Merrett should have lost his job!!! itsjustme2
  • Score: 2043

7:16pm Wed 16 Apr 14

velvetdixie says...

Won't the Titanic look spiffy with the deck chairs all rearranged!
Won't the Titanic look spiffy with the deck chairs all rearranged! velvetdixie
  • Score: 2110

7:17pm Wed 16 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Is it Anna or Dave or Anna's mates from the Golden Ball evening things up tonight...?.

Crack on Mark-Down Mongrels


Woof, Woof.
Is it Anna or Dave or Anna's mates from the Golden Ball evening things up tonight...?. Crack on Mark-Down Mongrels Woof, Woof. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: 2060

7:19pm Wed 16 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip.
If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip. pedalling paul
  • Score: 2159

7:20pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Cheeky face says...

Jay,

The ticket machines need a lot of fine-tuning at the "chosen" free for 3 hours car parks.
Can we trust the council to manage this without the experience of Dave Merritt?
--------------------
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I have questions on Lendal bridge fiasco still not answered and they were
raised in August, 2013. My other queries re Coppergate and Cameron gr bus stop are also unanswered; the latter being raised in 2011.

Perhaps the cabinet change may help them understand that the residents/York businesses generally have intelligent suggestions.
Jay, The ticket machines need a lot of fine-tuning at the "chosen" free for 3 hours car parks. Can we trust the council to manage this without the experience of Dave Merritt? -------------------- ---------- I have questions on Lendal bridge fiasco still not answered and they were raised in August, 2013. My other queries re Coppergate and Cameron gr bus stop are also unanswered; the latter being raised in 2011. Perhaps the cabinet change may help them understand that the residents/York businesses generally have intelligent suggestions. Cheeky face
  • Score: 1999

7:24pm Wed 16 Apr 14

wobblesofpedallingplks says...

....but this is a promotion for mr Merritt - he can do very much more damage in his new role than he ever could do previously . We're doomed!
....but this is a promotion for mr Merritt - he can do very much more damage in his new role than he ever could do previously . We're doomed! wobblesofpedallingplks
  • Score: 2201

7:25pm Wed 16 Apr 14

mutley12321 says...

Standard Failure management technique.

1 - Failure occurs.

2 – Big Chief unhappy. Denial from all Big Chief and senior personnel that any failure occurred. In fact, it was a riproaring success, the plebs/mob just were not intelligent enough realise it. Big Chief can’t understand why everyone is picking on him?

3 – Big Chief unhappy. Internally big stick must be wielded. Tries to find a fall guy, needs to find one quickly and one that isn’t him or his immediate lieutenant and confidant. Replacement of fall guy must be competent.

4 – Big Chief in panic. Can’t find any replacement for the fall guy that fits required skill set.

5 – Big Chief takes time out to think through limited options. Removal of fall guy is not because of any errors, incompetence or that the shareholders don’t have any confidence in him or the board. Needs to think up a rationale that everyone will fall for.

6 – Big Chief can’t think of any rationale the mob would fall for, the mob are not that daft.

7 – Big Chief back in panic. Fall guy cannot be sacked as that looks as though he’s not being backed but must be shifted elsewhere, but where?

8 – Big Chief finds eureka moment!! A position of no influence for the fall guy, one where he can’t do any more damage. But where? Someone mentioned Orkney a few months ago………oh, that’s gone has it?

9 – Big Chief makes big announcement. “Everything’s fine, really it is. Nothing to see here. We’re having a reshuffle of the deckchairs, so what if it’s the Titanic? Don’t forget, vote for us. We’re great, honest. Fall guy was a great guy and we’re keeping in a position of influence, although in reality it’s not a position of much influence and he can’t make any daft decisions again. It’s just we need a scapegoat and it can’t be me. Remember vote for me”.

10 – Fall guy takes the walk of shame and “gains the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge “.

11 – Big Chief thinks he’s got away with it. Lights big cigar, all is well.

12 – Failure occurs. Return to stage 1.
Standard Failure management technique. 1 - Failure occurs. 2 – Big Chief unhappy. Denial from all Big Chief and senior personnel that any failure occurred. In fact, it was a riproaring success, the plebs/mob just were not intelligent enough realise it. Big Chief can’t understand why everyone is picking on him? 3 – Big Chief unhappy. Internally big stick must be wielded. Tries to find a fall guy, needs to find one quickly and one that isn’t him or his immediate lieutenant and confidant. Replacement of fall guy must be competent. 4 – Big Chief in panic. Can’t find any replacement for the fall guy that fits required skill set. 5 – Big Chief takes time out to think through limited options. Removal of fall guy is not because of any errors, incompetence or that the shareholders don’t have any confidence in him or the board. Needs to think up a rationale that everyone will fall for. 6 – Big Chief can’t think of any rationale the mob would fall for, the mob are not that daft. 7 – Big Chief back in panic. Fall guy cannot be sacked as that looks as though he’s not being backed but must be shifted elsewhere, but where? 8 – Big Chief finds eureka moment!! A position of no influence for the fall guy, one where he can’t do any more damage. But where? Someone mentioned Orkney a few months ago………oh, that’s gone has it? 9 – Big Chief makes big announcement. “Everything’s fine, really it is. Nothing to see here. We’re having a reshuffle of the deckchairs, so what if it’s the Titanic? Don’t forget, vote for us. We’re great, honest. Fall guy was a great guy and we’re keeping in a position of influence, although in reality it’s not a position of much influence and he can’t make any daft decisions again. It’s just we need a scapegoat and it can’t be me. Remember vote for me”. 10 – Fall guy takes the walk of shame and “gains the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge “. 11 – Big Chief thinks he’s got away with it. Lights big cigar, all is well. 12 – Failure occurs. Return to stage 1. mutley12321
  • Score: 2033

7:26pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jay, york says...

Good to see the negatives are here again - the more negatives we get, we know they CoYC lobby are even more riled.
Bit of advice here CoYC and the perople you hjave encouraged to vote for you.- it doesnt matter how may negatives a post receives - what is important is that the post is made/.Words can say everything that a negative vote cant - and is more important
Good to see the negatives are here again - the more negatives we get, we know they CoYC lobby are even more riled. Bit of advice here CoYC and the perople you hjave encouraged to vote for you.- it doesnt matter how may negatives a post receives - what is important is that the post is made/.Words can say everything that a negative vote cant - and is more important jay, york
  • Score: 2004

7:29pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Is it Anna or Dave or Anna's mates from the Golden Ball evening things up tonight...?.

Crack on Mark-Down Mongrels


Woof, Woof.
It's unbelievable that those marking down the comments believe they are having an influence on what the residents of York actually think, my comment was +10 now about an hour later it's -28, still it won't hide the truth that Alexander has realised he might have backed the wrong horse and is seeing his political future as an MP slipping away, after all who wants to trust an ex leader of a failed council.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Is it Anna or Dave or Anna's mates from the Golden Ball evening things up tonight...?. Crack on Mark-Down Mongrels Woof, Woof.[/p][/quote]It's unbelievable that those marking down the comments believe they are having an influence on what the residents of York actually think, my comment was +10 now about an hour later it's -28, still it won't hide the truth that Alexander has realised he might have backed the wrong horse and is seeing his political future as an MP slipping away, after all who wants to trust an ex leader of a failed council. Igiveinthen
  • Score: 2001

7:30pm Wed 16 Apr 14

York2000 says...

I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads.

"What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying.

"There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs."

Food for thought.
I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought. York2000
  • Score: 1997

7:32pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jay, york says...

mutley12321 wrote:
Standard Failure management technique. 1 - Failure occurs. 2 – Big Chief unhappy. Denial from all Big Chief and senior personnel that any failure occurred. In fact, it was a riproaring success, the plebs/mob just were not intelligent enough realise it. Big Chief can’t understand why everyone is picking on him? 3 – Big Chief unhappy. Internally big stick must be wielded. Tries to find a fall guy, needs to find one quickly and one that isn’t him or his immediate lieutenant and confidant. Replacement of fall guy must be competent. 4 – Big Chief in panic. Can’t find any replacement for the fall guy that fits required skill set. 5 – Big Chief takes time out to think through limited options. Removal of fall guy is not because of any errors, incompetence or that the shareholders don’t have any confidence in him or the board. Needs to think up a rationale that everyone will fall for. 6 – Big Chief can’t think of any rationale the mob would fall for, the mob are not that daft. 7 – Big Chief back in panic. Fall guy cannot be sacked as that looks as though he’s not being backed but must be shifted elsewhere, but where? 8 – Big Chief finds eureka moment!! A position of no influence for the fall guy, one where he can’t do any more damage. But where? Someone mentioned Orkney a few months ago………oh, that’s gone has it? 9 – Big Chief makes big announcement. “Everything’s fine, really it is. Nothing to see here. We’re having a reshuffle of the deckchairs, so what if it’s the Titanic? Don’t forget, vote for us. We’re great, honest. Fall guy was a great guy and we’re keeping in a position of influence, although in reality it’s not a position of much influence and he can’t make any daft decisions again. It’s just we need a scapegoat and it can’t be me. Remember vote for me”. 10 – Fall guy takes the walk of shame and “gains the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge “. 11 – Big Chief thinks he’s got away with it. Lights big cigar, all is well. 12 – Failure occurs. Return to stage 1.
Absolutely brilliant and totally spot-on Mutrt!
[quote][p][bold]mutley12321[/bold] wrote: Standard Failure management technique. 1 - Failure occurs. 2 – Big Chief unhappy. Denial from all Big Chief and senior personnel that any failure occurred. In fact, it was a riproaring success, the plebs/mob just were not intelligent enough realise it. Big Chief can’t understand why everyone is picking on him? 3 – Big Chief unhappy. Internally big stick must be wielded. Tries to find a fall guy, needs to find one quickly and one that isn’t him or his immediate lieutenant and confidant. Replacement of fall guy must be competent. 4 – Big Chief in panic. Can’t find any replacement for the fall guy that fits required skill set. 5 – Big Chief takes time out to think through limited options. Removal of fall guy is not because of any errors, incompetence or that the shareholders don’t have any confidence in him or the board. Needs to think up a rationale that everyone will fall for. 6 – Big Chief can’t think of any rationale the mob would fall for, the mob are not that daft. 7 – Big Chief back in panic. Fall guy cannot be sacked as that looks as though he’s not being backed but must be shifted elsewhere, but where? 8 – Big Chief finds eureka moment!! A position of no influence for the fall guy, one where he can’t do any more damage. But where? Someone mentioned Orkney a few months ago………oh, that’s gone has it? 9 – Big Chief makes big announcement. “Everything’s fine, really it is. Nothing to see here. We’re having a reshuffle of the deckchairs, so what if it’s the Titanic? Don’t forget, vote for us. We’re great, honest. Fall guy was a great guy and we’re keeping in a position of influence, although in reality it’s not a position of much influence and he can’t make any daft decisions again. It’s just we need a scapegoat and it can’t be me. Remember vote for me”. 10 – Fall guy takes the walk of shame and “gains the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge “. 11 – Big Chief thinks he’s got away with it. Lights big cigar, all is well. 12 – Failure occurs. Return to stage 1.[/p][/quote]Absolutely brilliant and totally spot-on Mutrt! jay, york
  • Score: 2108

7:34pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jay, york says...

jay, york wrote:
mutley12321 wrote: Standard Failure management technique. 1 - Failure occurs. 2 – Big Chief unhappy. Denial from all Big Chief and senior personnel that any failure occurred. In fact, it was a riproaring success, the plebs/mob just were not intelligent enough realise it. Big Chief can’t understand why everyone is picking on him? 3 – Big Chief unhappy. Internally big stick must be wielded. Tries to find a fall guy, needs to find one quickly and one that isn’t him or his immediate lieutenant and confidant. Replacement of fall guy must be competent. 4 – Big Chief in panic. Can’t find any replacement for the fall guy that fits required skill set. 5 – Big Chief takes time out to think through limited options. Removal of fall guy is not because of any errors, incompetence or that the shareholders don’t have any confidence in him or the board. Needs to think up a rationale that everyone will fall for. 6 – Big Chief can’t think of any rationale the mob would fall for, the mob are not that daft. 7 – Big Chief back in panic. Fall guy cannot be sacked as that looks as though he’s not being backed but must be shifted elsewhere, but where? 8 – Big Chief finds eureka moment!! A position of no influence for the fall guy, one where he can’t do any more damage. But where? Someone mentioned Orkney a few months ago………oh, that’s gone has it? 9 – Big Chief makes big announcement. “Everything’s fine, really it is. Nothing to see here. We’re having a reshuffle of the deckchairs, so what if it’s the Titanic? Don’t forget, vote for us. We’re great, honest. Fall guy was a great guy and we’re keeping in a position of influence, although in reality it’s not a position of much influence and he can’t make any daft decisions again. It’s just we need a scapegoat and it can’t be me. Remember vote for me”. 10 – Fall guy takes the walk of shame and “gains the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge “. 11 – Big Chief thinks he’s got away with it. Lights big cigar, all is well. 12 – Failure occurs. Return to stage 1.
Absolutely brilliant and totally spot-on Mutrt!
sorry about the speeling mistake with your name Mutt,
[quote][p][bold]jay, york[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mutley12321[/bold] wrote: Standard Failure management technique. 1 - Failure occurs. 2 – Big Chief unhappy. Denial from all Big Chief and senior personnel that any failure occurred. In fact, it was a riproaring success, the plebs/mob just were not intelligent enough realise it. Big Chief can’t understand why everyone is picking on him? 3 – Big Chief unhappy. Internally big stick must be wielded. Tries to find a fall guy, needs to find one quickly and one that isn’t him or his immediate lieutenant and confidant. Replacement of fall guy must be competent. 4 – Big Chief in panic. Can’t find any replacement for the fall guy that fits required skill set. 5 – Big Chief takes time out to think through limited options. Removal of fall guy is not because of any errors, incompetence or that the shareholders don’t have any confidence in him or the board. Needs to think up a rationale that everyone will fall for. 6 – Big Chief can’t think of any rationale the mob would fall for, the mob are not that daft. 7 – Big Chief back in panic. Fall guy cannot be sacked as that looks as though he’s not being backed but must be shifted elsewhere, but where? 8 – Big Chief finds eureka moment!! A position of no influence for the fall guy, one where he can’t do any more damage. But where? Someone mentioned Orkney a few months ago………oh, that’s gone has it? 9 – Big Chief makes big announcement. “Everything’s fine, really it is. Nothing to see here. We’re having a reshuffle of the deckchairs, so what if it’s the Titanic? Don’t forget, vote for us. We’re great, honest. Fall guy was a great guy and we’re keeping in a position of influence, although in reality it’s not a position of much influence and he can’t make any daft decisions again. It’s just we need a scapegoat and it can’t be me. Remember vote for me”. 10 – Fall guy takes the walk of shame and “gains the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge “. 11 – Big Chief thinks he’s got away with it. Lights big cigar, all is well. 12 – Failure occurs. Return to stage 1.[/p][/quote]Absolutely brilliant and totally spot-on Mutrt![/p][/quote]sorry about the speeling mistake with your name Mutt, jay, york
  • Score: 2073

7:38pm Wed 16 Apr 14

petethefeet says...

pedalling paul wrote:
If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip.
Paul. Hopefully, a lot of people will learn from this fiasco. I use my pushbike whenever I can but there are times when I have to cross the City in my car. Lately, one of those reasons is to pickup my dear brother and take him across to the Neurosurgical units at Hull. I can understand the frustration of anybody living in SW York (South Bank, Tadcaster Road) and regularly needs to get to the hospital.
So, the lesson has got to be one of encouragement of the alternatives minus the policy of making them more attractive by deliberately hindering the motorist. The public simply won't have it.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip.[/p][/quote]Paul. Hopefully, a lot of people will learn from this fiasco. I use my pushbike whenever I can but there are times when I have to cross the City in my car. Lately, one of those reasons is to pickup my dear brother and take him across to the Neurosurgical units at Hull. I can understand the frustration of anybody living in SW York (South Bank, Tadcaster Road) and regularly needs to get to the hospital. So, the lesson has got to be one of encouragement of the alternatives minus the policy of making them more attractive by deliberately hindering the motorist. The public simply won't have it. petethefeet
  • Score: 1843

7:39pm Wed 16 Apr 14

bill bailey says...

I RELY HEAVILY ON MY DEPUTY...I always knew he was only any good working at the pound shop on the till. What a clown Alexzandria the Grate is.
I RELY HEAVILY ON MY DEPUTY...I always knew he was only any good working at the pound shop on the till. What a clown Alexzandria the Grate is. bill bailey
  • Score: 1492

7:45pm Wed 16 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Coun Alexander:
We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.

And James Alexander is fool enough to believe that the opposition are not going to use the many failures of Labour in their election campaigns.

Unbelievable naivety.
Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. And James Alexander is fool enough to believe that the opposition are not going to use the many failures of Labour in their election campaigns. Unbelievable naivety. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: 743

7:45pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

pedalling paul wrote:
If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip.
Well it looks like you'll have to start and nurture a new friendship and fellow twitterer with Councillor David Levene now pp/Hepworth, you know the old saying 'what goes round comes round' one hopes it's just the start of the collapse of this un-listening, un-popular, un-liked set of self opinionated so called councillors and it feels bloody marvellous.
One of your like minded sycophantic followers of the CoYC said he'd passed the 'bridge' today and it was clogged with standing vehicles, he didn't say what time it was that he passed it, but I went by this afternoon at 17.28 and was amazed that there were no cars on it, there were more cars going through Rougier Street and over Ouse Bridge.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip.[/p][/quote]Well it looks like you'll have to start and nurture a new friendship and fellow twitterer with Councillor David Levene now pp/Hepworth, you know the old saying 'what goes round comes round' one hopes it's just the start of the collapse of this un-listening, un-popular, un-liked set of self opinionated so called councillors and it feels bloody marvellous. One of your like minded sycophantic followers of the CoYC said he'd passed the 'bridge' today and it was clogged with standing vehicles, he didn't say what time it was that he passed it, but I went by this afternoon at 17.28 and was amazed that there were no cars on it, there were more cars going through Rougier Street and over Ouse Bridge. Igiveinthen
  • Score: 1043

7:46pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

No need for rejoicing here. It's not enough.

Ever heard of the Peter Principle?

And what about Anna Semlyen? She's had more than enough chances!
No need for rejoicing here. It's not enough. Ever heard of the Peter Principle? And what about Anna Semlyen? She's had more than enough chances! Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 256

7:49pm Wed 16 Apr 14

piaggio1 says...

PP?
No mention of gridlock????
You is deff losing it.
PP? No mention of gridlock???? You is deff losing it. piaggio1
  • Score: 317

7:53pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Is it Anna or Dave or Anna's mates from the Golden Ball evening things up tonight...?.

Crack on Mark-Down Mongrels


Woof, Woof.
Or is it from the Laverack camp?

Signed Buzzz "minus 2" Light-year.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Is it Anna or Dave or Anna's mates from the Golden Ball evening things up tonight...?. Crack on Mark-Down Mongrels Woof, Woof.[/p][/quote]Or is it from the Laverack camp? Signed Buzzz "minus 2" Light-year. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 177

7:55pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

York2000 wrote:
I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads.

"What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying.

"There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs."

Food for thought.
Well having watched some of the ruling councillors perform in the council meetings, in particular the deputy TSL, if that's what you mean about proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate then I'll eat hay with a donkey!, but only after JA, KE and TSL have had their fill.
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.[/p][/quote]Well having watched some of the ruling councillors perform in the council meetings, in particular the deputy TSL, if that's what you mean about proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate then I'll eat hay with a donkey!, but only after JA, KE and TSL have had their fill. Igiveinthen
  • Score: 276

7:59pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
No need for rejoicing here. It's not enough.

Ever heard of the Peter Principle?

And what about Anna Semlyen? She's had more than enough chances!
Yes I've heard of the 'Peter Principle' it's a very good comparison, take my hat off to you.
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: No need for rejoicing here. It's not enough. Ever heard of the Peter Principle? And what about Anna Semlyen? She's had more than enough chances![/p][/quote]Yes I've heard of the 'Peter Principle' it's a very good comparison, take my hat off to you. Igiveinthen
  • Score: 9

8:10pm Wed 16 Apr 14

mmarshal says...

If Alexander's choice of Merrett is indicative of his ability to make the right choice then Merrett should not be the only musical chair contestant. Alexander should also be looking for his seat.
Before the announcement of this reshuffle, I asked 'who will rid me of this meddlesome merrett?' I should have asked the same of alexander.
If Alexander's choice of Merrett is indicative of his ability to make the right choice then Merrett should not be the only musical chair contestant. Alexander should also be looking for his seat. Before the announcement of this reshuffle, I asked 'who will rid me of this meddlesome merrett?' I should have asked the same of alexander. mmarshal
  • Score: 15

8:17pm Wed 16 Apr 14

The Junkyard Angel says...

A typical Public sector response - Don't get rid of the culprit , just side shuffle them! God this is so predictable, How about some accountability ??
A typical Public sector response - Don't get rid of the culprit , just side shuffle them! God this is so predictable, How about some accountability ?? The Junkyard Angel
  • Score: 497

8:21pm Wed 16 Apr 14

smudge2 says...

wobblesofpedallingpl
ks
wrote:
....but this is a promotion for mr Merritt - he can do very much more damage in his new role than he ever could do previously . We're doomed!
#######Come on York#######...... more aliases of pedalling paul needed to dilute him even more.We've got him on a back foot now and desperate for support from any councilor who will have him....
[quote][p][bold]wobblesofpedallingpl ks[/bold] wrote: ....but this is a promotion for mr Merritt - he can do very much more damage in his new role than he ever could do previously . We're doomed![/p][/quote]#######Come on York#######...... more aliases of pedalling paul needed to dilute him even more.We've got him on a back foot now and desperate for support from any councilor who will have him.... smudge2
  • Score: -443

8:32pm Wed 16 Apr 14

alanyork says...

FUNNY HOW KE OR TSL HAVE REMAINED QUIET ! ! ! ! !-------------------
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1ST CLASS COWARDS SACK EM' BOTH
FUNNY HOW KE OR TSL HAVE REMAINED QUIET ! ! ! ! !------------------- ---- 1ST CLASS COWARDS SACK EM' BOTH alanyork
  • Score: -6

8:41pm Wed 16 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............
Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............ pedalling paul
  • Score: -354

8:47pm Wed 16 Apr 14

bolero says...

It's falling apart. Infamy,infamy, they've all got it in for me. They don't like it up'em. etc,etc.
It's falling apart. Infamy,infamy, they've all got it in for me. They don't like it up'em. etc,etc. bolero
  • Score: -1074

8:47pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Dave Ruddock says...

think a mass vote of NO CONFIDENCE is on the cards and Merrett the ferret let off.

Do the Leader think Alexander "Apologize in a public statement in the press and radio" and SACK Merrett before he fouls something else. ohh and the question on monies re Lendal .

Think a PUBLIC (VERY PUBLIC) Enquiry be held NOW Not in Statdate 11111
think a mass vote of NO CONFIDENCE is on the cards and Merrett the ferret let off. Do the Leader think Alexander "Apologize in a public statement in the press and radio" and SACK Merrett before he fouls something else. ohh and the question on monies re Lendal . Think a PUBLIC (VERY PUBLIC) Enquiry be held NOW Not in Statdate 11111 Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -512

8:48pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jay, york says...

Cheeky face wrote:
Jay, The ticket machines need a lot of fine-tuning at the "chosen" free for 3 hours car parks. Can we trust the council to manage this without the experience of Dave Merritt? -------------------- ---------- I have questions on Lendal bridge fiasco still not answered and they were raised in August, 2013. My other queries re Coppergate and Cameron gr bus stop are also unanswered; the latter being raised in 2011. Perhaps the cabinet change may help them understand that the residents/York businesses generally have intelligent suggestions.
Hi cheeky - I dont think we can trust any of them at all - but perhaps could be better without Merrett the deceiver? Lets wait and see - will the new guy be a Semlyen suporter or not?? Cos this will be the next big fiasco for them - Son of Lendal Bridge..
Regarding your other queries, all I would say is dont hold your breath. They answer what they want to - and what they dont answer says a whole lot more than what they do say
But one thing that is for sure is CoYC ar incompetant and are making this wonderful city a laughing stock..
[quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: Jay, The ticket machines need a lot of fine-tuning at the "chosen" free for 3 hours car parks. Can we trust the council to manage this without the experience of Dave Merritt? -------------------- ---------- I have questions on Lendal bridge fiasco still not answered and they were raised in August, 2013. My other queries re Coppergate and Cameron gr bus stop are also unanswered; the latter being raised in 2011. Perhaps the cabinet change may help them understand that the residents/York businesses generally have intelligent suggestions.[/p][/quote]Hi cheeky - I dont think we can trust any of them at all - but perhaps could be better without Merrett the deceiver? Lets wait and see - will the new guy be a Semlyen suporter or not?? Cos this will be the next big fiasco for them - Son of Lendal Bridge.. Regarding your other queries, all I would say is dont hold your breath. They answer what they want to - and what they dont answer says a whole lot more than what they do say But one thing that is for sure is CoYC ar incompetant and are making this wonderful city a laughing stock.. jay, york
  • Score: -338

8:54pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Jalymo says...

Whilst it is great that Merrett has gone from Transport, I am very worried about the Local Plan that is about to be rubber stamped. Merrett will have more time to spend on his "planning" brief. When he hasn't got the car driver in his sights, he will be even keener on destroying our Greenbelt. This Council cannot be trusted with the best interests of our City, they are just looking after their own political ambitions.
Whilst it is great that Merrett has gone from Transport, I am very worried about the Local Plan that is about to be rubber stamped. Merrett will have more time to spend on his "planning" brief. When he hasn't got the car driver in his sights, he will be even keener on destroying our Greenbelt. This Council cannot be trusted with the best interests of our City, they are just looking after their own political ambitions. Jalymo
  • Score: -823

8:56pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............
Tick.....tock......t
ick......tock......t
ick...............
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............[/p][/quote]Tick.....tock......t ick......tock......t ick............... Igiveinthen
  • Score: -937

8:56pm Wed 16 Apr 14

JasBro says...

York2000 wrote:
I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads.

"What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying.

"There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs."

Food for thought.
Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else.

In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal.

Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine.

This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done.

This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't.

Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views.

The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate.

Sad but true.
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.[/p][/quote]Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else. In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal. Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine. This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done. This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't. Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views. The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate. Sad but true. JasBro
  • Score: -184

9:06pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jay, york says...

York2000 wrote:
I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.
Food for thought indeed.
Well lets see CoYC start the ball rolling by instigating " proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism". Cos that is the one thing that has been lacking here.
You are however right in one of your comments "a lot of it is just abuse and bullying". Yes that is what we have had from CoYC and some of their members who have acutally posted the most derogatory comments on this page - especially to visitors to this fine city ( one actually amitted who that she was councillor C - responsible for tourism, leisure and culture!
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.[/p][/quote]Food for thought indeed. Well lets see CoYC start the ball rolling by instigating " proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism". Cos that is the one thing that has been lacking here. You are however right in one of your comments "a lot of it is just abuse and bullying". Yes that is what we have had from CoYC and some of their members who have acutally posted the most derogatory comments on this page - especially to visitors to this fine city ( one actually amitted who that she was councillor C - responsible for tourism, leisure and culture! jay, york
  • Score: -506

9:10pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jay, york says...

JasBro wrote:
York2000 wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.
Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else. In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal. Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine. This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done. This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't. Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views. The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate. Sad but true.
Very, very well said JasBro
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.[/p][/quote]Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else. In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal. Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine. This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done. This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't. Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views. The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate. Sad but true.[/p][/quote]Very, very well said JasBro jay, york
  • Score: 189

9:11pm Wed 16 Apr 14

AnotherPointofView says...

The Junkyard Angel wrote:
A typical Public sector response - Don't get rid of the culprit , just side shuffle them! God this is so predictable, How about some accountability ??
Well, that will come next year. Roll on the elections.
[quote][p][bold]The Junkyard Angel[/bold] wrote: A typical Public sector response - Don't get rid of the culprit , just side shuffle them! God this is so predictable, How about some accountability ??[/p][/quote]Well, that will come next year. Roll on the elections. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: -402

9:13pm Wed 16 Apr 14

AnotherPointofView says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............
You missed a bit....

What happened to..... gridlock...... car users paradise....... blah blah....?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............[/p][/quote]You missed a bit.... What happened to..... gridlock...... car users paradise....... blah blah....? AnotherPointofView
  • Score: -1070

9:14pm Wed 16 Apr 14

acomblass says...

Radio York'sinterview with Alexander tonight was an excellent piece of journalism. Why was JA avoiding the media last week but was so desperate to trumpet his reshuffle today? Nothing to do with the fact that his own job will be on the line at the Labour Group meeting next month when Cabinet positions are up for grabs! Will there be a challenge from the other member of JAs slimming campaign? And don't hold out too much hope about Levene- he is wellknown for his bully boy tactics.
Watch out for the next disaster - TDF
Radio York'sinterview with Alexander tonight was an excellent piece of journalism. Why was JA avoiding the media last week but was so desperate to trumpet his reshuffle today? Nothing to do with the fact that his own job will be on the line at the Labour Group meeting next month when Cabinet positions are up for grabs! Will there be a challenge from the other member of JAs slimming campaign? And don't hold out too much hope about Levene- he is wellknown for his bully boy tactics. Watch out for the next disaster - TDF acomblass
  • Score: -1074

9:21pm Wed 16 Apr 14

inthesticks says...

JasBro wrote:
York2000 wrote:
I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads.

"What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying.

"There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs."

Food for thought.
Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else.

In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal.

Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine.

This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done.

This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't.

Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views.

The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate.

Sad but true.
Hear hear. And I have just one question.......where
`s Hoofearted?
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.[/p][/quote]Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else. In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal. Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine. This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done. This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't. Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views. The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate. Sad but true.[/p][/quote]Hear hear. And I have just one question.......where `s Hoofearted? inthesticks
  • Score: -1514

9:24pm Wed 16 Apr 14

lacypaperdevil says...

Moving the chairs on the deck of the Titanic
Moving the chairs on the deck of the Titanic lacypaperdevil
  • Score: -2095

9:32pm Wed 16 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

JasBro wrote:
York2000 wrote:
I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads.

"What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying.

"There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs."

Food for thought.
Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else.

In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal.

Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine.

This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done.

This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't.

Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views.

The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate.

Sad but true.
Totally and absolutely right Jasbro, and remember nothing has changed it's just been shuffled.
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.[/p][/quote]Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else. In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal. Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine. This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done. This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't. Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views. The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate. Sad but true.[/p][/quote]Totally and absolutely right Jasbro, and remember nothing has changed it's just been shuffled. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -2309

9:35pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

JasBro wrote:
York2000 wrote:
I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads.

"What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying.

"There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs."

Food for thought.
Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else.

In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal.

Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine.

This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done.

This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't.

Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views.

The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate.

Sad but true.
Yes have to agree with your comment, I am as guilty as the next person of indulging in character assassination, pp/Hepworth in particular is my nemesis, and his radicle views have politicised me to the extent that I will vote to ensure that people like him do not attain power, we need a council or councillors who do genuinely care for the city they live in, and not try and inflict their own personal ideological views disguised as ideas they claim will benefit the residents and the city as a whole.
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.[/p][/quote]Whilst it's true that the comments threads here often contain too much trivial abuse, it's also true that the council have been just as guilty as anyone else. In the early days of the Lendal Bridge trial they were all too willing to use these threads for their own purposes, and they were quite heavy handed in their abuse of the people they were supposed to represent., especially if you happened to disagree with them. They piled in with little consideration of honesty, decency or democracy. Racism, ageism, bullying and downright rudeness were all part of the arsenal. Obviously things have changed now, as more and more people have realised that they are dishonest. The tables have turned and they're now getting a dose of their own medicine. This council have now politicised a large number of people, who like myself, were not particularly interested in politics before. I'm sure that isn't what they intended and I don't think it will benefit them, but it might be one of the few positive aspects of what they've done. This administration were expecting that everybody would conform, they were desperately hoping that we would accept their platitudes, but we didn't. Read between the lines here, go back through the threads, ignore the abuse and the extremists, and you might just realise that actually there have been some genuine attempts to discuss the issues. It might actually be the only place where people genuinely feel they can express their views. The council made it quite clear that they didn't want to listen, so this place has ended up being the only place left for community engagement and proper political debate. Sad but true.[/p][/quote]Yes have to agree with your comment, I am as guilty as the next person of indulging in character assassination, pp/Hepworth in particular is my nemesis, and his radicle views have politicised me to the extent that I will vote to ensure that people like him do not attain power, we need a council or councillors who do genuinely care for the city they live in, and not try and inflict their own personal ideological views disguised as ideas they claim will benefit the residents and the city as a whole. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -2717

9:37pm Wed 16 Apr 14

courier46 says...

How do they get away with it?.Should all be sacked!!!
How do they get away with it?.Should all be sacked!!! courier46
  • Score: -2550

9:39pm Wed 16 Apr 14

ouseswimmer says...

I'm voting UKIP for the first time. Should make life far more interesting.
I'm voting UKIP for the first time. Should make life far more interesting. ouseswimmer
  • Score: -2592

9:42pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Saracen says...

Traffic Management in the City has been a fiasco for years, and it certainly cannot be managed by people who don't even have driving experience. It takes knowledge, guts and determination and an "overview" to make things better and tinkering at the edges never worked for anyone. Banning traffic kills a city like ours. Tourists and shoppers go "out of town" removing the "lifeblood" from a place and leaving the town centre dead. In one act, Lendal Bridge undermined 20 years of incredibly hard work to encourage tourism in our City. We all know that if something is good people tell 3 others. When it's bad they tell 10 others (and that was before Twitter). We have "traffic-sign pollution" in our historic City, which leads to confusion and accidents. Traffic lights cause unbelievable environmental pollution with waiting vehicles (not to mention the power consumption) and most people by now know that when the power fails the queues disappear, but we keep getting more. The "sleeping policemen" are in competition with the "holes in the road" to slow traffic - both of which are dangerously destroying vehicle tyres and suspensions. Encouraging cycling in our congested roads is so amazingly dangerous that future generations will laugh at us for allowing it - they already do in the Netherlands. Untrained , unlicensed, unlit and uninsured cyclists undertake vehicles on the wrong side and threaten pedestrians, with no recourse or responsibility - and now they don't even bother to use the cycle lanes because they are not swept. We see "20 something" year-olds stopping 10 vehicles at a time because they can't wait and never learned how to cross a 16' wide road, being brought up in our nanny state learning only how to press buttons. All these issues are common to most cities of the world. Incompetent communities have gridlock, Intelligent communities get together and sort it out to everone's satisfaction, but you need cross party political concensus and a plan. There is a famous WWl military saying - "the only thing wrong with the plan is, there isn't one". We have the intelligence , the money and the ability to make York a great place. Doing the "British thing" and taking it to the brink of total failure before we do anything is sadly the usual way. "I feel an urge to write a letter" is about as much passion as we get. Such a pity.
Traffic Management in the City has been a fiasco for years, and it certainly cannot be managed by people who don't even have driving experience. It takes knowledge, guts and determination and an "overview" to make things better and tinkering at the edges never worked for anyone. Banning traffic kills a city like ours. Tourists and shoppers go "out of town" removing the "lifeblood" from a place and leaving the town centre dead. In one act, Lendal Bridge undermined 20 years of incredibly hard work to encourage tourism in our City. We all know that if something is good people tell 3 others. When it's bad they tell 10 others (and that was before Twitter). We have "traffic-sign pollution" in our historic City, which leads to confusion and accidents. Traffic lights cause unbelievable environmental pollution with waiting vehicles (not to mention the power consumption) and most people by now know that when the power fails the queues disappear, but we keep getting more. The "sleeping policemen" are in competition with the "holes in the road" to slow traffic - both of which are dangerously destroying vehicle tyres and suspensions. Encouraging cycling in our congested roads is so amazingly dangerous that future generations will laugh at us for allowing it - they already do in the Netherlands. Untrained , unlicensed, unlit and uninsured cyclists undertake vehicles on the wrong side and threaten pedestrians, with no recourse or responsibility - and now they don't even bother to use the cycle lanes because they are not swept. We see "20 something" year-olds stopping 10 vehicles at a time because they can't wait and never learned how to cross a 16' wide road, being brought up in our nanny state learning only how to press buttons. All these issues are common to most cities of the world. Incompetent communities have gridlock, Intelligent communities get together and sort it out to everone's satisfaction, but you need cross party political concensus and a plan. There is a famous WWl military saying - "the only thing wrong with the plan is, there isn't one". We have the intelligence , the money and the ability to make York a great place. Doing the "British thing" and taking it to the brink of total failure before we do anything is sadly the usual way. "I feel an urge to write a letter" is about as much passion as we get. Such a pity. Saracen
  • Score: -2479

10:05pm Wed 16 Apr 14

oi oi savaloy says...

oh goody! anybody wondering why the streets of york are awash with student rubbish?? it's levenes fault! he doesn't do anything about it because he spends his days trying to get them to join the labour party!!

and now they have given clown number one's job to clown number two!!
oh goody! anybody wondering why the streets of york are awash with student rubbish?? it's levenes fault! he doesn't do anything about it because he spends his days trying to get them to join the labour party!! and now they have given clown number one's job to clown number two!! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -1966

10:20pm Wed 16 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas?

All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans.

The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions.

What are the challenges for LTP3?

It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city.

What is in LTP3?

The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through:

providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means.
improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond.
encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety
tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment.
enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity.
An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.
Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas? All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans. The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions. What are the challenges for LTP3? It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city. What is in LTP3? The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through: providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means. improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond. encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment. enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity. An executive summary of LTP3 is also available. pedalling paul
  • Score: -1776

10:30pm Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Hold on let's see. Out of the frying pan?

David Levene.
"On a city-wide basis, I want to see York become a greener, more prosperous and more enjoyable place to live

For Heslington, my priorities include:
• Dealing with traffic and parking problems
• Improving cycling facilities and public transport provision

I passionately believe that social inequality and environmental destruction is unacceptable in our society".

Not that you would disagree with Mr Levene wanting a better environment as he says, and as I am sure Mr Merrett did, but it is how you go about it. After all if your policies lead to massive increases in pollution then maybe you should think again.

Mr Levene, who is relatively new to York, needs to read Mr Merritt's own reports before he gets stuck into dealing with traffic and improving cycling and public transport which top his list of priorities and figure out what went wrong. Let's hope he just does not get out his blinkers create more pollution and congestion.

Just as a starting point Mr Levene - York had it's lowest pollution levels in 2005 and the volume of traffic has not risen since then either. So can you make a difference without feeling the need to try to bully every York resident out of their cars?. Bearing in mind you have the same advantage Mr Merrett had of improved vehicle emissions technology.
Hold on let's see. Out of the frying pan? David Levene. "On a city-wide basis, I want to see York become a greener, more prosperous and more enjoyable place to live For Heslington, my priorities include: • Dealing with traffic and parking problems • Improving cycling facilities and public transport provision I passionately believe that social inequality and environmental destruction is unacceptable in our society". Not that you would disagree with Mr Levene wanting a better environment as he says, and as I am sure Mr Merrett did, but it is how you go about it. After all if your policies lead to massive increases in pollution then maybe you should think again. Mr Levene, who is relatively new to York, needs to read Mr Merritt's own reports before he gets stuck into dealing with traffic and improving cycling and public transport which top his list of priorities and figure out what went wrong. Let's hope he just does not get out his blinkers create more pollution and congestion. Just as a starting point Mr Levene - York had it's lowest pollution levels in 2005 and the volume of traffic has not risen since then either. So can you make a difference without feeling the need to try to bully every York resident out of their cars?. Bearing in mind you have the same advantage Mr Merrett had of improved vehicle emissions technology. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -1772

10:37pm Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas?

All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans.

The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions.

What are the challenges for LTP3?

It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city.

What is in LTP3?

The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through:

providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means.
improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond.
encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety
tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment.
enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity.
An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.
And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time?

No increase in volume of traffic.
Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases.
Increased congestion.
Increased Journey times.

Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas? All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans. The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions. What are the challenges for LTP3? It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city. What is in LTP3? The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through: providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means. improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond. encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment. enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity. An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.[/p][/quote]And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time? No increase in volume of traffic. Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases. Increased congestion. Increased Journey times. Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV? strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -3047

10:42pm Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Goodness our score adjuster is working hard.

Gave me +25 for my first post and has just taken it 10 mins to correct that mistake to get me to -13.
Goodness our score adjuster is working hard. Gave me +25 for my first post and has just taken it 10 mins to correct that mistake to get me to -13. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -3178

10:45pm Wed 16 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

James Alexander has announced a cabinet reshuffle which sees Coun Dave Merrett replaced as cabinet member of Transport.

Coun Alexander said: "I have always ensured all members of the Cabinet had responsibilities that made best use of their talents and efforts as required.

Or has it got more to do with the story run by Minster FM today and might just appear as the headline story in the press tomorrow. Just have to wait and see I guess.
James Alexander has announced a cabinet reshuffle which sees Coun Dave Merrett replaced as cabinet member of Transport. Coun Alexander said: "I have always ensured all members of the Cabinet had responsibilities that made best use of their talents and efforts as required. Or has it got more to do with the story run by Minster FM today and might just appear as the headline story in the press tomorrow. Just have to wait and see I guess. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -3057

10:46pm Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Oh it has stopped adjusting the scores now just as I was about to have a bit of fun again carrying on putting on negative posts to keep it hard at work. How disappointing. I am watching though!!!
Oh it has stopped adjusting the scores now just as I was about to have a bit of fun again carrying on putting on negative posts to keep it hard at work. How disappointing. I am watching though!!! strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -2142

10:48pm Wed 16 Apr 14

RoseD says...

Saracen wrote:
Traffic Management in the City has been a fiasco for years, and it certainly cannot be managed by people who don't even have driving experience. It takes knowledge, guts and determination and an "overview" to make things better and tinkering at the edges never worked for anyone. Banning traffic kills a city like ours. Tourists and shoppers go "out of town" removing the "lifeblood" from a place and leaving the town centre dead. In one act, Lendal Bridge undermined 20 years of incredibly hard work to encourage tourism in our City. We all know that if something is good people tell 3 others. When it's bad they tell 10 others (and that was before Twitter). We have "traffic-sign pollution" in our historic City, which leads to confusion and accidents. Traffic lights cause unbelievable environmental pollution with waiting vehicles (not to mention the power consumption) and most people by now know that when the power fails the queues disappear, but we keep getting more. The "sleeping policemen" are in competition with the "holes in the road" to slow traffic - both of which are dangerously destroying vehicle tyres and suspensions. Encouraging cycling in our congested roads is so amazingly dangerous that future generations will laugh at us for allowing it - they already do in the Netherlands. Untrained , unlicensed, unlit and uninsured cyclists undertake vehicles on the wrong side and threaten pedestrians, with no recourse or responsibility - and now they don't even bother to use the cycle lanes because they are not swept. We see "20 something" year-olds stopping 10 vehicles at a time because they can't wait and never learned how to cross a 16' wide road, being brought up in our nanny state learning only how to press buttons. All these issues are common to most cities of the world. Incompetent communities have gridlock, Intelligent communities get together and sort it out to everone's satisfaction, but you need cross party political concensus and a plan. There is a famous WWl military saying - "the only thing wrong with the plan is, there isn't one". We have the intelligence , the money and the ability to make York a great place. Doing the "British thing" and taking it to the brink of total failure before we do anything is sadly the usual way. "I feel an urge to write a letter" is about as much passion as we get. Such a pity.
Well put. You and JasBro both.
[quote][p][bold]Saracen[/bold] wrote: Traffic Management in the City has been a fiasco for years, and it certainly cannot be managed by people who don't even have driving experience. It takes knowledge, guts and determination and an "overview" to make things better and tinkering at the edges never worked for anyone. Banning traffic kills a city like ours. Tourists and shoppers go "out of town" removing the "lifeblood" from a place and leaving the town centre dead. In one act, Lendal Bridge undermined 20 years of incredibly hard work to encourage tourism in our City. We all know that if something is good people tell 3 others. When it's bad they tell 10 others (and that was before Twitter). We have "traffic-sign pollution" in our historic City, which leads to confusion and accidents. Traffic lights cause unbelievable environmental pollution with waiting vehicles (not to mention the power consumption) and most people by now know that when the power fails the queues disappear, but we keep getting more. The "sleeping policemen" are in competition with the "holes in the road" to slow traffic - both of which are dangerously destroying vehicle tyres and suspensions. Encouraging cycling in our congested roads is so amazingly dangerous that future generations will laugh at us for allowing it - they already do in the Netherlands. Untrained , unlicensed, unlit and uninsured cyclists undertake vehicles on the wrong side and threaten pedestrians, with no recourse or responsibility - and now they don't even bother to use the cycle lanes because they are not swept. We see "20 something" year-olds stopping 10 vehicles at a time because they can't wait and never learned how to cross a 16' wide road, being brought up in our nanny state learning only how to press buttons. All these issues are common to most cities of the world. Incompetent communities have gridlock, Intelligent communities get together and sort it out to everone's satisfaction, but you need cross party political concensus and a plan. There is a famous WWl military saying - "the only thing wrong with the plan is, there isn't one". We have the intelligence , the money and the ability to make York a great place. Doing the "British thing" and taking it to the brink of total failure before we do anything is sadly the usual way. "I feel an urge to write a letter" is about as much passion as we get. Such a pity.[/p][/quote]Well put. You and JasBro both. RoseD
  • Score: -2069

10:48pm Wed 16 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Keep the Mark-Down Mongrels busy, it is a clear measure of failure that leads them to such desperate activity.


Woof, Woof.
Keep the Mark-Down Mongrels busy, it is a clear measure of failure that leads them to such desperate activity. Woof, Woof. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -1818

10:49pm Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Must have been a tea break the score adjuster thing is back again . Lets just keep going then.
Must have been a tea break the score adjuster thing is back again . Lets just keep going then. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -1231

10:52pm Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Yep I am still here score adjusting thing. Don't mind spending a few seconds keeping you busy.

Mr Merrett 48% increases in pollution with no increase in volume of traffic what a terrible state to leave us in.
Yep I am still here score adjusting thing. Don't mind spending a few seconds keeping you busy. Mr Merrett 48% increases in pollution with no increase in volume of traffic what a terrible state to leave us in. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -1353

10:55pm Wed 16 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

If Labours strategy is consistency then I can understand replacing a failure with a prospective failure.
If Labours strategy is consistency then I can understand replacing a failure with a prospective failure. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -529

10:55pm Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Tell you what score adjuster I will come back about 12 to keep you up late.

Must go for a nap now as I have to be up early to get through all the congestion in the morning that Mr Merrett has created in the last few years.
Tell you what score adjuster I will come back about 12 to keep you up late. Must go for a nap now as I have to be up early to get through all the congestion in the morning that Mr Merrett has created in the last few years. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -501

10:55pm Wed 16 Apr 14

dudbertman says...

Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Coun Alexander:
We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.

You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real".
A weeks a long time in politics. The silent majority of people York will return a labour council even if they'd robbed the coffers of every penny it'd got.
Oh no we won't
[quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real".[/p][/quote]A weeks a long time in politics. The silent majority of people York will return a labour council even if they'd robbed the coffers of every penny it'd got.[/p][/quote]Oh no we won't dudbertman
  • Score: -1645

10:59pm Wed 16 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Labour, showing us how to screw-up and dodge the bullets.
Labour, showing us how to screw-up and dodge the bullets. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -2193

10:59pm Wed 16 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Well that at least has kept the score adjusting thing busy for the last 30 mins. Bye for now.
Well that at least has kept the score adjusting thing busy for the last 30 mins. Bye for now. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -2228

11:37pm Wed 16 Apr 14

Thunderblade says...

Time for a new plan? I've noticed from press reports over the last couple of years that all the fanciful future schemes that might, may or could, be carried out in the future all depend on someone else paying for them. Surely, if as Tiny Jim was reported as saying now is the best time to borrow money in respect of the expenditure on Kings Square, this argument can be applied to capital projects like a bus station.
Borrow the money build the **** thing with attached shops etc. rent these out to pay back the loan.
Same principle, build new railway stations at Haxby & Strensall incorporate commercial properties and rent these out as well.
While on the subject of buses why not de-regulate them (it can be done) introduce routes and a service that people really need and make them free or heavily subsidised .
I'm confident there would be a massive increase in bus usage if this idea was taken up.
A bit radical but diverting funds from other ridiculous schemes could pay for this and doesn't the council receive a grant from central Govt. to encourage bus usage? After all its meant to be a service, we need to get away from the idea that everything has to make a profit. If it runs at a loss so what, can't be any worse than the vast amounts of money being wasted at present and we might have a few less cars in town.
Time for a new plan? I've noticed from press reports over the last couple of years that all the fanciful future schemes that might, may or could, be carried out in the future all depend on someone else paying for them. Surely, if as Tiny Jim was reported as saying now is the best time to borrow money in respect of the expenditure on Kings Square, this argument can be applied to capital projects like a bus station. Borrow the money build the **** thing with attached shops etc. rent these out to pay back the loan. Same principle, build new railway stations at Haxby & Strensall incorporate commercial properties and rent these out as well. While on the subject of buses why not de-regulate them (it can be done) introduce routes and a service that people really need and make them free or heavily subsidised . I'm confident there would be a massive increase in bus usage if this idea was taken up. A bit radical but diverting funds from other ridiculous schemes could pay for this and doesn't the council receive a grant from central Govt. to encourage bus usage? After all its meant to be a service, we need to get away from the idea that everything has to make a profit. If it runs at a loss so what, can't be any worse than the vast amounts of money being wasted at present and we might have a few less cars in town. Thunderblade
  • Score: -2005

11:45pm Wed 16 Apr 14

jay, york says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Keep the Mark-Down Mongrels busy, it is a clear measure of failure that leads them to such desperate activity. Woof, Woof.
Hello mark down mongels. As you are so active tonight, I thought I would ask if one of you would care to enlighten us as to why you vote against any sensible and structured comments on this site?
See the thing is it is so easy to press a button to say you disagree - but come on, please tell us why - I am really intrested to know. Is it because you totally agree with what CoYC is doing? Really - then speak out - convince me that I am wrong in my views.. I am sure CoYC would love to see your comments of support instead of mark downs.. Or has one of CoYC members encouraged you to do this.- really?????
Come on, speak out - we would love to hear your comments.
Silence and negative votes will just confirm what we all know to be true. - you have been encouraged to simply mark down.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Keep the Mark-Down Mongrels busy, it is a clear measure of failure that leads them to such desperate activity. Woof, Woof.[/p][/quote]Hello mark down mongels. As you are so active tonight, I thought I would ask if one of you would care to enlighten us as to why you vote against any sensible and structured comments on this site? See the thing is it is so easy to press a button to say you disagree - but come on, please tell us why - I am really intrested to know. Is it because you totally agree with what CoYC is doing? Really - then speak out - convince me that I am wrong in my views.. I am sure CoYC would love to see your comments of support instead of mark downs.. Or has one of CoYC members encouraged you to do this.- really????? Come on, speak out - we would love to hear your comments. Silence and negative votes will just confirm what we all know to be true. - you have been encouraged to simply mark down. jay, york
  • Score: -1656

12:15am Thu 17 Apr 14

Pinza-C55 says...

petethefeet wrote:
Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Coun Alexander:
We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.

You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get RealAs opposed to the Tories who have turned the £700 Bilion National Debt they inherited from Labour into £1.3 Trillion.
[quote][p][bold]petethefeet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get RealAs opposed to the Tories who have turned the £700 Bilion National Debt they inherited from Labour into £1.3 Trillion. Pinza-C55
  • Score: -1287

1:42am Thu 17 Apr 14

Badgers Drift says...

dudbertman wrote:
Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote: Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real".
A weeks a long time in politics. The silent majority of people York will return a labour council even if they'd robbed the coffers of every penny it'd got.
Oh no we won't
Agreed - they (Alexander, Simpson-Laing, Merrett, Crisp, Labour + Kersten England) are out in 2015.

York's people will not forgive them for their disastrous reign of 'disruption'....

The change agents have failed - it's time for them to 'shift'!!!
[quote][p][bold]dudbertman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get Real".[/p][/quote]A weeks a long time in politics. The silent majority of people York will return a labour council even if they'd robbed the coffers of every penny it'd got.[/p][/quote]Oh no we won't[/p][/quote]Agreed - they (Alexander, Simpson-Laing, Merrett, Crisp, Labour + Kersten England) are out in 2015. York's people will not forgive them for their disastrous reign of 'disruption'.... The change agents have failed - it's time for them to 'shift'!!! Badgers Drift
  • Score: -751

7:42am Thu 17 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas?

All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans.

The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions.

What are the challenges for LTP3?

It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city.

What is in LTP3?

The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through:

providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means.
improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond.
encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety
tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment.
enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity.
An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.
And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time?

No increase in volume of traffic.
Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases.
Increased congestion.
Increased Journey times.

Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV?
And what would be the consequences for us all, of a traffic free for all? Like it or not, LTP3 is here and influencing detailed policy decisions.
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas? All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans. The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions. What are the challenges for LTP3? It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city. What is in LTP3? The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through: providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means. improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond. encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment. enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity. An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.[/p][/quote]And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time? No increase in volume of traffic. Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases. Increased congestion. Increased Journey times. Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV?[/p][/quote]And what would be the consequences for us all, of a traffic free for all? Like it or not, LTP3 is here and influencing detailed policy decisions. pedalling paul
  • Score: -657

8:12am Thu 17 Apr 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

pedalling paul wrote:
strangebuttrue? wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas?

All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans.

The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions.

What are the challenges for LTP3?

It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city.

What is in LTP3?

The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through:

providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means.
improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond.
encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety
tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment.
enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity.
An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.
And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time?

No increase in volume of traffic.
Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases.
Increased congestion.
Increased Journey times.

Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV?
And what would be the consequences for us all, of a traffic free for all? Like it or not, LTP3 is here and influencing detailed policy decisions.
Wow, if it's going to be that good, I just can't wait until they bring out, LTP4, AKA (Revenge of the Merrett Ferret) I hear little Jimmy will be getting a Best Boy credit while TSL and KE get to run the catering truck.
Stephen Spielberg has expressed an interest in directing it, but only if he can secure the talents of Paul Hepworth and use his superior and vast knowledge of the transport infrastructure of York.
I would suggest that we all call Vue cinema now to book our tickets, as it is sure to be a sell out.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas? All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans. The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions. What are the challenges for LTP3? It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city. What is in LTP3? The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through: providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means. improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond. encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment. enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity. An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.[/p][/quote]And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time? No increase in volume of traffic. Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases. Increased congestion. Increased Journey times. Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV?[/p][/quote]And what would be the consequences for us all, of a traffic free for all? Like it or not, LTP3 is here and influencing detailed policy decisions.[/p][/quote]Wow, if it's going to be that good, I just can't wait until they bring out, LTP4, AKA (Revenge of the Merrett Ferret) I hear little Jimmy will be getting a Best Boy credit while TSL and KE get to run the catering truck. Stephen Spielberg has expressed an interest in directing it, but only if he can secure the talents of Paul Hepworth and use his superior and vast knowledge of the transport infrastructure of York. I would suggest that we all call Vue cinema now to book our tickets, as it is sure to be a sell out. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -274

8:21am Thu 17 Apr 14

CRWPROJ says...

Reported...
"Coun Merrett moved to take up the new portfolio of Environmental Services, Planning and Sustainability...in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”.
Should we read that he has been sacked and he is busy on Wikepedia becoming an expert in another subject about which he has 'no hands' on experience.
Please, tell me he is not going to get involved in the Allerton Park fiasco?
Why do these people believe that only a 'party' can be elected, independant councillors represent the community that elects them, and are not distracted by national ambitions...
Reported... "Coun Merrett moved to take up the new portfolio of Environmental Services, Planning and Sustainability...in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”. Should we read that he has been sacked and he is busy on Wikepedia becoming an expert in another subject about which he has 'no hands' on experience. Please, tell me he is not going to get involved in the Allerton Park fiasco? Why do these people believe that only a 'party' can be elected, independant councillors represent the community that elects them, and are not distracted by national ambitions... CRWPROJ
  • Score: -30

8:21am Thu 17 Apr 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

On a side note, PP commented 07:42 and by 08:00 already has 133 thumbs up.
Chaps, we may have found the score hacker?
On a side note, PP commented 07:42 and by 08:00 already has 133 thumbs up. Chaps, we may have found the score hacker? NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -1361

8:49am Thu 17 Apr 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

pedalling paul wrote:
If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip.
What has he done paul? installed cycle lanes and a p&r? (so we had big bendy busses causing mayhem instead of cars?) oh but then added in additional lighting and poor sequencing? He has done F/A for congestion in york! You get more stupid by the day. We are not at gridlock as car usage has fallen in the past 5 years!
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip.[/p][/quote]What has he done paul? installed cycle lanes and a p&r? (so we had big bendy busses causing mayhem instead of cars?) oh but then added in additional lighting and poor sequencing? He has done F/A for congestion in york! You get more stupid by the day. We are not at gridlock as car usage has fallen in the past 5 years! Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -1695

8:57am Thu 17 Apr 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............
no it doesn’t....there is no time bomb paul! just people making rash decisions to line their pockets instead of using common sense when it comes to new road layouts...I.e New park & ride! Count the lights.... count how many pointless turns there are... That is the time bomb! the fact that the longer these idiots in power the more we will pay in the future for their ridicules junction layouts that cost money to be reversed!

Traffic at that A64 junction is going to be mental for no reason when it opens! imagine race days... you need traffic flowing not sitting at lights to move 10 meters to the next ones... I.e when you can turn right from to go down leman road from the bridge... why can't a car go straight on?? its safe... its down to people like you making cyclists go on a path so they get their own light sequence rather then on the road where drivers can see them... i've seen that light work for 1 cyclist in my entire time of travelling down there!

You and this council are so blinded by future fears you take drastic measures instead of thinking what could make the traffic just 1% better... chip away at that first!
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............[/p][/quote]no it doesn’t....there is no time bomb paul! just people making rash decisions to line their pockets instead of using common sense when it comes to new road layouts...I.e New park & ride! Count the lights.... count how many pointless turns there are... That is the time bomb! the fact that the longer these idiots in power the more we will pay in the future for their ridicules junction layouts that cost money to be reversed! Traffic at that A64 junction is going to be mental for no reason when it opens! imagine race days... you need traffic flowing not sitting at lights to move 10 meters to the next ones... I.e when you can turn right from to go down leman road from the bridge... why can't a car go straight on?? its safe... its down to people like you making cyclists go on a path so they get their own light sequence rather then on the road where drivers can see them... i've seen that light work for 1 cyclist in my entire time of travelling down there! You and this council are so blinded by future fears you take drastic measures instead of thinking what could make the traffic just 1% better... chip away at that first! Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -2093

8:58am Thu 17 Apr 14

mmarshal says...

PLEASE. Rather working on a new plan how about just letting the dust settle on old failures and taking time out to look at the transport problems and how they can be improved.
Don't just rush into the next 'plan' for the sake of giving the appearance that something (anything) is being done about it.
Lendal Folly should teach CYC (of whatever political flavour) that rushing into an ill-conceived plan can be hugely expensive and likely to fail.
PLEASE. Rather working on a new plan how about just letting the dust settle on old failures and taking time out to look at the transport problems and how they can be improved. Don't just rush into the next 'plan' for the sake of giving the appearance that something (anything) is being done about it. Lendal Folly should teach CYC (of whatever political flavour) that rushing into an ill-conceived plan can be hugely expensive and likely to fail. mmarshal
  • Score: -1916

9:01am Thu 17 Apr 14

Fat Harry says...

Mark-down mongrels ate my hamster
Mark-down mongrels ate my hamster Fat Harry
  • Score: -1481

9:07am Thu 17 Apr 14

the original Homer says...

KING OF THE WEASELS ANNOUNCES FERRET MOVING TO NEW HOME

Coun Alexander said: "I have always ensured all members of the Cabinet had responsibilities that made best use of their talents and efforts as required"

Sorry James, but yet again we don't believe what you say. This is just you trying to distance yourself from the fiasco and saying what you think we want to hear.

How can you have any sincerity in that statement? Do you know what the word "always" means? Always means you think Dave Merrett was the right man for transport on the day before the reshuffle, and the right man for environment on the day after the reshuffle. That would be a very sudden and dramatic change of talents. Why not say you got it wrong and there was a period where he was in the wrong job?

If you can't admit you were wrong about transport it makes it difficult for us to trust your judgement.

If you think you weren't wrong, you are either a fool, or you are trying to take us for fools.

Don't forget we have seen minutes of meetings and e-mails.
KING OF THE WEASELS ANNOUNCES FERRET MOVING TO NEW HOME Coun Alexander said: "I have always ensured all members of the Cabinet had responsibilities that made best use of their talents and efforts as required" Sorry James, but yet again we don't believe what you say. This is just you trying to distance yourself from the fiasco and saying what you think we want to hear. How can you have any sincerity in that statement? Do you know what the word "always" means? Always means you think Dave Merrett was the right man for transport on the day before the reshuffle, and the right man for environment on the day after the reshuffle. That would be a very sudden and dramatic change of talents. Why not say you got it wrong and there was a period where he was in the wrong job? If you can't admit you were wrong about transport it makes it difficult for us to trust your judgement. If you think you weren't wrong, you are either a fool, or you are trying to take us for fools. Don't forget we have seen minutes of meetings and e-mails. the original Homer
  • Score: -874

9:32am Thu 17 Apr 14

YorkPatrol says...

pedalling paul wrote:
If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip.
Time Bomb??? Are you for real…. It’s just a bit of traffic. Talk about melodramatic hysteria.

It is this type of over dramatically enhanced talk that’s leads to ill thought out reactive schemes such as the Lendal Bridge closure..

The annoying nonsense you spout actually has the opposite affect - The cycling community needs a new spokes person and you personally are driving people into their cars

And…. That imbecile Merritt should not have been sacked…. He should have been JAILED
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: If it was not for the considerable input by Cllr Merrett into transport issues over the last few decades, York would already be grinding to a halt. The traffic time bomb will continue to tick underneath us, until we all accept the wisdom of encouraging modal shift for many local journeys. Note that does not equate to me suggesting that everyone gets on their bikes for every single trip.[/p][/quote]Time Bomb??? Are you for real…. It’s just a bit of traffic. Talk about melodramatic hysteria. It is this type of over dramatically enhanced talk that’s leads to ill thought out reactive schemes such as the Lendal Bridge closure.. The annoying nonsense you spout actually has the opposite affect - The cycling community needs a new spokes person and you personally are driving people into their cars And…. That imbecile Merritt should not have been sacked…. He should have been JAILED YorkPatrol
  • Score: -837

9:47am Thu 17 Apr 14

roskoboskovic says...

now merrett can work alongside his looney mate d agorne.gawd help us.
now merrett can work alongside his looney mate d agorne.gawd help us. roskoboskovic
  • Score: -383

9:48am Thu 17 Apr 14

Cheeky face says...

Always good comments from Jay, Archibald the 1st, and original homer.

I have contacted Ombudsman regarding no replies from the Council.

I am waiting until 22.4.2014 when the council's time is up to reply to me; then the refusal to reply goes to Ombudsman - who are based in COVENTRY for York queries. Presumably it is a centralized function!

My biggest question to James Alexander was to find out who Merritt spoke to at DVLC re the "yellow card warning option". I have asked for names and notepadded information.

Whilst all this is going we now are to see (from late May)more cars entering York looking for free car spaces when the inner city roads are congested! If the council were to invent dual purpose products they may easily produce a coat hanger with a bottle opener attachment!

Have they re-sited the signs leading to Coppergate and included restricted periods on them. A policeman told me 15 years ago the advance signs on roads towards Coppergate were insufficient!

We must hope the new transport guy grasps the issues, but I do not feel confident! He needs backing by sensible and open-minded council executives!

What will happen this weekend- other than massive bottlenecks at the large Hopgrove roundabout, and the next 5 miles east towards the coast on the A64. Why do motiorists not used maps?
Always good comments from Jay, Archibald the 1st, and original homer. I have contacted Ombudsman regarding no replies from the Council. I am waiting until 22.4.2014 when the council's time is up to reply to me; then the refusal to reply goes to Ombudsman - who are based in COVENTRY for York queries. Presumably it is a centralized function! My biggest question to James Alexander was to find out who Merritt spoke to at DVLC re the "yellow card warning option". I have asked for names and notepadded information. Whilst all this is going we now are to see (from late May)more cars entering York looking for free car spaces when the inner city roads are congested! If the council were to invent dual purpose products they may easily produce a coat hanger with a bottle opener attachment! Have they re-sited the signs leading to Coppergate and included restricted periods on them. A policeman told me 15 years ago the advance signs on roads towards Coppergate were insufficient! We must hope the new transport guy grasps the issues, but I do not feel confident! He needs backing by sensible and open-minded council executives! What will happen this weekend- other than massive bottlenecks at the large Hopgrove roundabout, and the next 5 miles east towards the coast on the A64. Why do motiorists not used maps? Cheeky face
  • Score: -333

9:49am Thu 17 Apr 14

dementia says...

So the organ grinder has gone at least a little bit sideways. The monkey too has gone to Orkney. But we do need to change the organ as well. So how about a clear out of the transport planning area. Leave an answer phone for pothole repairs of course but no more "initiatives"
So the organ grinder has gone at least a little bit sideways. The monkey too has gone to Orkney. But we do need to change the organ as well. So how about a clear out of the transport planning area. Leave an answer phone for pothole repairs of course but no more "initiatives" dementia
  • Score: -277

10:18am Thu 17 Apr 14

Firedrake says...

This is only anecdotal, I know, but I made my first trip out towards Easingwold yesterday since the re-opening of Lendal Bridge: outward by taxi (c 2.00pm) returning by bus c 6.00pm).

Outward: Lord Mayor's Walk and Gillygate were severely congested with very slow moving traffic. Bootham was fairly clear heading north but the south-bound lane was nose-to-tail.

Homeward: A19 south-bound traffic still congested, backing up almost to Rawcliffe ... but I suppose that might have had something to do with the "bomb" at Askham bar (or was it PP's "ticking traffic bomb" perhaps?)

Seriously, though, this particular route seemed much easier (by whatever means of transport) during the closure. I can't speak for anywhere else.
This is only anecdotal, I know, but I made my first trip out towards Easingwold yesterday since the re-opening of Lendal Bridge: outward by taxi (c 2.00pm) returning by bus c 6.00pm). Outward: Lord Mayor's Walk and Gillygate were severely congested with very slow moving traffic. Bootham was fairly clear heading north but the south-bound lane was nose-to-tail. Homeward: A19 south-bound traffic still congested, backing up almost to Rawcliffe ... but I suppose that might have had something to do with the "bomb" at Askham bar (or was it PP's "ticking traffic bomb" perhaps?) Seriously, though, this particular route seemed much easier (by whatever means of transport) during the closure. I can't speak for anywhere else. Firedrake
  • Score: -1985

10:23am Thu 17 Apr 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits!
All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits! AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: -1728

10:40am Thu 17 Apr 14

YorkPatrol says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits!
I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits![/p][/quote]I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried YorkPatrol
  • Score: -2154

10:50am Thu 17 Apr 14

Cheeky face says...

I have just an e-mail saying queries etc re the car parking FREE periods will be answered in 5 days, by the parking team. Will they talk to the transport control team.
I have just an e-mail saying queries etc re the car parking FREE periods will be answered in 5 days, by the parking team. Will they talk to the transport control team. Cheeky face
  • Score: -1747

10:52am Thu 17 Apr 14

Woody G Mellor says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits!
I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried
Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn.
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits![/p][/quote]I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried[/p][/quote]Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn. Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -1455

11:05am Thu 17 Apr 14

m dee says...

pedalling paul wrote:
strangebuttrue? wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas?

All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans.

The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions.

What are the challenges for LTP3?

It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city.

What is in LTP3?

The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through:

providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means.
improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond.
encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety
tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment.
enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity.
An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.
And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time?

No increase in volume of traffic.
Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases.
Increased congestion.
Increased Journey times.

Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV?
And what would be the consequences for us all, of a traffic free for all? Like it or not, LTP3 is here and influencing detailed policy decisions.
Well if the LTP3 is so good and drawn up by transport experts like you want us to believe and influencing policy decisions and is working so well that's great,they waved the magic wand and bus usage is up,all the cycle paths are full well done ,hows the legal challenge doing and the plan to change central government legislation ?
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas? All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans. The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions. What are the challenges for LTP3? It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city. What is in LTP3? The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through: providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means. improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond. encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment. enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity. An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.[/p][/quote]And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time? No increase in volume of traffic. Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases. Increased congestion. Increased Journey times. Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV?[/p][/quote]And what would be the consequences for us all, of a traffic free for all? Like it or not, LTP3 is here and influencing detailed policy decisions.[/p][/quote]Well if the LTP3 is so good and drawn up by transport experts like you want us to believe and influencing policy decisions and is working so well that's great,they waved the magic wand and bus usage is up,all the cycle paths are full well done ,hows the legal challenge doing and the plan to change central government legislation ? m dee
  • Score: -1313

11:12am Thu 17 Apr 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
YorkPatrol wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits!
I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried
Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn.
Wow some sense being talked for once...

Where are you guys when people are making up some of the more fanciful theories...? ;)
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits![/p][/quote]I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried[/p][/quote]Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn.[/p][/quote]Wow some sense being talked for once... Where are you guys when people are making up some of the more fanciful theories...? ;) AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: -815

11:19am Thu 17 Apr 14

Bailed Out says...

The Lendal Bridge scheme was a complete lash up from day one. Merrett should have been dismissed.
The Lendal Bridge scheme was a complete lash up from day one. Merrett should have been dismissed. Bailed Out
  • Score: -259

11:51am Thu 17 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Bailed Out wrote:
The Lendal Bridge scheme was a complete lash up from day one. Merrett should have been dismissed.
From Minster FM:

16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail:

"Anna,
If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up.
Thanks - Dave."

In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying:

"A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss."
[quote][p][bold]Bailed Out[/bold] wrote: The Lendal Bridge scheme was a complete lash up from day one. Merrett should have been dismissed.[/p][/quote]From Minster FM: 16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail: "Anna, If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up. Thanks - Dave." In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying: "A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss." strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -171

11:52am Thu 17 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
Bailed Out wrote:
The Lendal Bridge scheme was a complete lash up from day one. Merrett should have been dismissed.
From Minster FM:

16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail:

"Anna,
If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up.
Thanks - Dave."

In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying:

"A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss."
Sorry used wrong quote see below.
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bailed Out[/bold] wrote: The Lendal Bridge scheme was a complete lash up from day one. Merrett should have been dismissed.[/p][/quote]From Minster FM: 16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail: "Anna, If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up. Thanks - Dave." In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying: "A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss."[/p][/quote]Sorry used wrong quote see below. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -138

11:53am Thu 17 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
YorkPatrol wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits!
I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried
Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn.
Wow some sense being talked for once...

Where are you guys when people are making up some of the more fanciful theories...? ;)
From Minster FM:

16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail:

"Anna,
If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up.
Thanks - Dave."

In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying:

"A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss."
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits![/p][/quote]I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried[/p][/quote]Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn.[/p][/quote]Wow some sense being talked for once... Where are you guys when people are making up some of the more fanciful theories...? ;)[/p][/quote]From Minster FM: 16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail: "Anna, If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up. Thanks - Dave." In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying: "A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss." strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -1718

11:53am Thu 17 Apr 14

Badgers Drift says...

Cheeky face wrote:
Always good comments from Jay, Archibald the 1st, and original homer. I have contacted Ombudsman regarding no replies from the Council. I am waiting until 22.4.2014 when the council's time is up to reply to me; then the refusal to reply goes to Ombudsman - who are based in COVENTRY for York queries. Presumably it is a centralized function! My biggest question to James Alexander was to find out who Merritt spoke to at DVLC re the "yellow card warning option". I have asked for names and notepadded information. Whilst all this is going we now are to see (from late May)more cars entering York looking for free car spaces when the inner city roads are congested! If the council were to invent dual purpose products they may easily produce a coat hanger with a bottle opener attachment! Have they re-sited the signs leading to Coppergate and included restricted periods on them. A policeman told me 15 years ago the advance signs on roads towards Coppergate were insufficient! We must hope the new transport guy grasps the issues, but I do not feel confident! He needs backing by sensible and open-minded council executives! What will happen this weekend- other than massive bottlenecks at the large Hopgrove roundabout, and the next 5 miles east towards the coast on the A64. Why do motiorists not used maps?
The LGO will not investigate unless you have suffered a significant injustice.

I suggest that you complain to IKersten England, and if she doesn't refer your complaint to the appropriate dept, then you should report the council to the Information Commissioners Office. There is a growing number of complaints against CYC to the Police, LGO and ICO, which shows that they are a disgrace when it comes to engagement and democracy.

Things need to change at CYC, and so do many Labour councillors and officers - they obviously cannot and will not change their attitude, so they will have to change their jobs, and leave CYC.
[quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: Always good comments from Jay, Archibald the 1st, and original homer. I have contacted Ombudsman regarding no replies from the Council. I am waiting until 22.4.2014 when the council's time is up to reply to me; then the refusal to reply goes to Ombudsman - who are based in COVENTRY for York queries. Presumably it is a centralized function! My biggest question to James Alexander was to find out who Merritt spoke to at DVLC re the "yellow card warning option". I have asked for names and notepadded information. Whilst all this is going we now are to see (from late May)more cars entering York looking for free car spaces when the inner city roads are congested! If the council were to invent dual purpose products they may easily produce a coat hanger with a bottle opener attachment! Have they re-sited the signs leading to Coppergate and included restricted periods on them. A policeman told me 15 years ago the advance signs on roads towards Coppergate were insufficient! We must hope the new transport guy grasps the issues, but I do not feel confident! He needs backing by sensible and open-minded council executives! What will happen this weekend- other than massive bottlenecks at the large Hopgrove roundabout, and the next 5 miles east towards the coast on the A64. Why do motiorists not used maps?[/p][/quote]The LGO will not investigate unless you have suffered a significant injustice. I suggest that you complain to IKersten England, and if she doesn't refer your complaint to the appropriate dept, then you should report the council to the Information Commissioners Office. There is a growing number of complaints against CYC to the Police, LGO and ICO, which shows that they are a disgrace when it comes to engagement and democracy. Things need to change at CYC, and so do many Labour councillors and officers - they obviously cannot and will not change their attitude, so they will have to change their jobs, and leave CYC. Badgers Drift
  • Score: -1808

11:57am Thu 17 Apr 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

Firedrake wrote:
This is only anecdotal, I know, but I made my first trip out towards Easingwold yesterday since the re-opening of Lendal Bridge: outward by taxi (c 2.00pm) returning by bus c 6.00pm). Outward: Lord Mayor's Walk and Gillygate were severely congested with very slow moving traffic. Bootham was fairly clear heading north but the south-bound lane was nose-to-tail. Homeward: A19 south-bound traffic still congested, backing up almost to Rawcliffe ... but I suppose that might have had something to do with the "bomb" at Askham bar (or was it PP's "ticking traffic bomb" perhaps?) Seriously, though, this particular route seemed much easier (by whatever means of transport) during the closure. I can't speak for anywhere else.
it is easter holidays with a lot of parents off work with kids or people visiting with kids. I'd expect it all to calm down once they runts are back learning.
[quote][p][bold]Firedrake[/bold] wrote: This is only anecdotal, I know, but I made my first trip out towards Easingwold yesterday since the re-opening of Lendal Bridge: outward by taxi (c 2.00pm) returning by bus c 6.00pm). Outward: Lord Mayor's Walk and Gillygate were severely congested with very slow moving traffic. Bootham was fairly clear heading north but the south-bound lane was nose-to-tail. Homeward: A19 south-bound traffic still congested, backing up almost to Rawcliffe ... but I suppose that might have had something to do with the "bomb" at Askham bar (or was it PP's "ticking traffic bomb" perhaps?) Seriously, though, this particular route seemed much easier (by whatever means of transport) during the closure. I can't speak for anywhere else.[/p][/quote]it is easter holidays with a lot of parents off work with kids or people visiting with kids. I'd expect it all to calm down once they runts are back learning. Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -2246

12:06pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Kevin Turvey says...

“Cllr Dave Merrett will gain the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”.

Wasn’t he in transport for the same reason?


It would be preferable if he was gone from the council completely! He is now available to cause chaos somewhere else.


The public just require Alexander and Simply Wrong’s full resignations now!
When are they forthcoming James?
“Cllr Dave Merrett will gain the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”. Wasn’t he in transport for the same reason? It would be preferable if he was gone from the council completely! He is now available to cause chaos somewhere else. The public just require Alexander and Simply Wrong’s full resignations now! When are they forthcoming James? Kevin Turvey
  • Score: -2087

12:09pm Thu 17 Apr 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
YorkPatrol wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits!
I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried
Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn.
Wow some sense being talked for once...

Where are you guys when people are making up some of the more fanciful theories...? ;)
From Minster FM:

16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail:

"Anna,
If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up.
Thanks - Dave."

In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying:

"A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss."
So why all the positive marks on this story for anti-council comments?

I know they've shown lack of aptitude, but your it still makes no sense.

Well whichever 14 year old does it will be laughing his backside off at all of the bluster on here.....
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits![/p][/quote]I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried[/p][/quote]Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn.[/p][/quote]Wow some sense being talked for once... Where are you guys when people are making up some of the more fanciful theories...? ;)[/p][/quote]From Minster FM: 16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail: "Anna, If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up. Thanks - Dave." In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying: "A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss."[/p][/quote]So why all the positive marks on this story for anti-council comments? I know they've shown lack of aptitude, but your it still makes no sense. Well whichever 14 year old does it will be laughing his backside off at all of the bluster on here..... AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: -1637

12:31pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas? All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans. The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions. What are the challenges for LTP3? It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city. What is in LTP3? The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through: providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means. improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond. encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment. enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity. An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.
It is in fact a mission statement! If they were planning as far ahead as 2031 such lendal and coppergate schemes would not have come about.

Here is my mission statement for my football career for 2031;

I will train harder to shift my belly as in the coming 5 years age may well catch up with me. In 10-15 years time it is expected that there will be more fast food restaurants around, meaning stomach fat congestion will increase by 200,000%. While pro-actively trying to practice on grass it is expect that all known green fields will be full of idiot cycle paths, to incorporate this into my dream I shall practice my free kicks, using them as moving targets in the hope one of them is my main peddling target. This will encourage a safer behaviour from the cyclists and they may even learn to look around at their surroundings. In the mean time I shall practice my sprints on the foot paths ignoring the 20mph speed limits to reach my goal. It is short lived though in 2025 as all paths are removed and everyone must cycle as part of the well thought out council plan put in place in 2014. Only the rich and famous footballers can afford to run a car at this time (thankfully through 11 years of training that’s me!!!). in 2030 am driving through the barely congested streets of York to my debut game thinking “this reminds me of what 2014 was like” when all of a sudden a ticking time bomb went off blowing my legs off... apparently it was placed there as part of scare tactic due cycling nazi’s exaggerating traffic so they had more seats to sniff... my 17 year football dream was over and to make things worse I could not cycle anywhere (no legs) so had to use 7mpg bendy bus to get around (luckily labour had increased the number of P&Rs as part of their genius “get vehicles off the road plans”. In fact there were 3.5 busses per person)...By 2031 everyone gets a grip and realises that cars weren’t bad at all and they are re-instated with immediate effect. Traffic flows better as the transport minister yogi bear sorted out the light sequences and opened up a train links on the outskirts. Yogi proved that it is not rocket science to reduce traffic and making people dress up in skin tight clothes with their junk on show wasn’t actually required. Nor was it practical to put more busses everywhere to reduce traffic as he found out through extensive research that these do in fact use up road space. Yogi presents me with an award for nearly making it as a football player and compensation for his predecessors idiotic plans.

My mission statement is actually more detailed and realistic then theirs…
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas? All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans. The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions. What are the challenges for LTP3? It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city. What is in LTP3? The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through: providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means. improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond. encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment. enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity. An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.[/p][/quote]It is in fact a mission statement! If they were planning as far ahead as 2031 such lendal and coppergate schemes would not have come about. Here is my mission statement for my football career for 2031; I will train harder to shift my belly as in the coming 5 years age may well catch up with me. In 10-15 years time it is expected that there will be more fast food restaurants around, meaning stomach fat congestion will increase by 200,000%. While pro-actively trying to practice on grass it is expect that all known green fields will be full of idiot cycle paths, to incorporate this into my dream I shall practice my free kicks, using them as moving targets in the hope one of them is my main peddling target. This will encourage a safer behaviour from the cyclists and they may even learn to look around at their surroundings. In the mean time I shall practice my sprints on the foot paths ignoring the 20mph speed limits to reach my goal. It is short lived though in 2025 as all paths are removed and everyone must cycle as part of the well thought out council plan put in place in 2014. Only the rich and famous footballers can afford to run a car at this time (thankfully through 11 years of training that’s me!!!). in 2030 am driving through the barely congested streets of York to my debut game thinking “this reminds me of what 2014 was like” when all of a sudden a ticking time bomb went off blowing my legs off... apparently it was placed there as part of scare tactic due cycling nazi’s exaggerating traffic so they had more seats to sniff... my 17 year football dream was over and to make things worse I could not cycle anywhere (no legs) so had to use 7mpg bendy bus to get around (luckily labour had increased the number of P&Rs as part of their genius “get vehicles off the road plans”. In fact there were 3.5 busses per person)...By 2031 everyone gets a grip and realises that cars weren’t bad at all and they are re-instated with immediate effect. Traffic flows better as the transport minister yogi bear sorted out the light sequences and opened up a train links on the outskirts. Yogi proved that it is not rocket science to reduce traffic and making people dress up in skin tight clothes with their junk on show wasn’t actually required. Nor was it practical to put more busses everywhere to reduce traffic as he found out through extensive research that these do in fact use up road space. Yogi presents me with an award for nearly making it as a football player and compensation for his predecessors idiotic plans. My mission statement is actually more detailed and realistic then theirs… Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -1069

12:34pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Kandro says...

If everyone gets a job swap when they balls up its still the same people and they are still on the same wages. Ie there is no negative consequence for doing a bad job except to the tax payer who has to fund all these 'experiments'
If everyone gets a job swap when they balls up its still the same people and they are still on the same wages. Ie there is no negative consequence for doing a bad job except to the tax payer who has to fund all these 'experiments' Kandro
  • Score: -893

12:39pm Thu 17 Apr 14

George Smiley says...

He should have been sacked rather than being given another chance to waste tax payers money. The whole leadership of York City Council is unfit for purpose and York will not be free of this incompetence until they are removed from power.
He should have been sacked rather than being given another chance to waste tax payers money. The whole leadership of York City Council is unfit for purpose and York will not be free of this incompetence until they are removed from power. George Smiley
  • Score: -314

12:39pm Thu 17 Apr 14

George Smiley says...

He should have been sacked rather than being given another chance to waste tax payers money. The whole leadership of York City Council is unfit for purpose and York will not be free of this incompetence until they are removed from power.
He should have been sacked rather than being given another chance to waste tax payers money. The whole leadership of York City Council is unfit for purpose and York will not be free of this incompetence until they are removed from power. George Smiley
  • Score: -318

12:40pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Kandro says...

If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.
If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on. Kandro
  • Score: -76

1:12pm Thu 17 Apr 14

jay, york says...

Cheeky face wrote:
I have just an e-mail saying queries etc re the car parking FREE periods will be answered in 5 days, by the parking team. Will they talk to the transport control team.
I think it's more likely that it's going to take them 5 days to actually think up a plan, let alone answer questions about it!
[quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: I have just an e-mail saying queries etc re the car parking FREE periods will be answered in 5 days, by the parking team. Will they talk to the transport control team.[/p][/quote]I think it's more likely that it's going to take them 5 days to actually think up a plan, let alone answer questions about it! jay, york
  • Score: -1431

1:46pm Thu 17 Apr 14

YorkPatrol says...

Kevin Turvey wrote:
“Cllr Dave Merrett will gain the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”. Wasn’t he in transport for the same reason? It would be preferable if he was gone from the council completely! He is now available to cause chaos somewhere else. The public just require Alexander and Simply Wrong’s full resignations now! When are they forthcoming James?
Jack of all trades, master of none
[quote][p][bold]Kevin Turvey[/bold] wrote: “Cllr Dave Merrett will gain the opportunity to focus further attention on environmental issues, in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”. Wasn’t he in transport for the same reason? It would be preferable if he was gone from the council completely! He is now available to cause chaos somewhere else. The public just require Alexander and Simply Wrong’s full resignations now! When are they forthcoming James?[/p][/quote]Jack of all trades, master of none YorkPatrol
  • Score: -1773

2:16pm Thu 17 Apr 14

eeoodares says...

York2000 wrote:
I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads.

"What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying.

"There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs."

Food for thought.
A fool despises good counsel, but a wise man takes it to heart.
-- Confucius

I guess you despise it York 2000.
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.[/p][/quote]A fool despises good counsel, but a wise man takes it to heart. -- Confucius I guess you despise it York 2000. eeoodares
  • Score: -2017

2:19pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

Kandro wrote:
If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.
the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??
[quote][p][bold]Kandro[/bold] wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.[/p][/quote]the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work?? Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -1724

2:33pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Cheeky face says...

Badgers Drift. I have tried Kerstan and James already. The LGO have agreed I can them my concerns AFTER a recognized time lapse.

Jay, My questions re the free parking has gone. We will be surprised if a reply is received at all!
Badgers Drift. I have tried Kerstan and James already. The LGO have agreed I can them my concerns AFTER a recognized time lapse. Jay, My questions re the free parking has gone. We will be surprised if a reply is received at all! Cheeky face
  • Score: -1565

2:40pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Cheeky face says...

We have 20mph limits in Scarborough. No fines yet; and very little evidence of speeds being reduced.

But the speed of the wardens when your paid parking time is at an end is tremendous; the wardens appear immediately as if by magic!

Nationally after legislation was introduced very few fines for middle land hoggeers.
We have 20mph limits in Scarborough. No fines yet; and very little evidence of speeds being reduced. But the speed of the wardens when your paid parking time is at an end is tremendous; the wardens appear immediately as if by magic! Nationally after legislation was introduced very few fines for middle land hoggeers. Cheeky face
  • Score: -1399

3:00pm Thu 17 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
petethefeet wrote:
Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
Coun Alexander:
We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.

You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get RealAs opposed to the Tories who have turned the £700 Bilion National Debt they inherited from Labour into £1.3 Trillion.A valid enough point, but my comment was directly related to the issue of this press report which is not about our national debt.
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]petethefeet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: Coun Alexander: We will focus on York's local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council. You really do have a low opinion of York residents, you think it's all good now and water under the bridge, "Get RealAs opposed to the Tories who have turned the £700 Bilion National Debt they inherited from Labour into £1.3 Trillion.[/p][/quote]A valid enough point, but my comment was directly related to the issue of this press report which is not about our national debt. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -1023

3:08pm Thu 17 Apr 14

the original Homer says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
Kandro wrote:
If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.
the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??
Archibald
I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er).
I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse).
I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be.
BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation.
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kandro[/bold] wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.[/p][/quote]the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??[/p][/quote]Archibald I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er). I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse). I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be. BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation. the original Homer
  • Score: -499

3:19pm Thu 17 Apr 14

TheManor says...

What concerns me here is that Cllr Merrett rightly said that if the Lendal Bridge PCN scheme was found to be illegal, he would resign. By that I suspect he meant resign from his transport position. So now, if at the end of the legal wrangling, the adjudicator's decision is that the PCN scheme was unlawful, will Cllr Merrett resign from the cabinet? Probably not, as he no longer has any influence (officially) over the area of contention.

Falling on your own sword is admirable, but using the excuse, "I can't fall on it, because the sword now belongs to someone else" is an absolute cop-out, avoiding any kind of accountability.
What concerns me here is that Cllr Merrett rightly said that if the Lendal Bridge PCN scheme was found to be illegal, he would resign. By that I suspect he meant resign from his transport position. So now, if at the end of the legal wrangling, the adjudicator's decision is that the PCN scheme was unlawful, will Cllr Merrett resign from the cabinet? Probably not, as he no longer has any influence (officially) over the area of contention. Falling on your own sword is admirable, but using the excuse, "I can't fall on it, because the sword now belongs to someone else" is an absolute cop-out, avoiding any kind of accountability. TheManor
  • Score: -356

3:22pm Thu 17 Apr 14

York2000 says...

Sad to see the Press has moved this article above the Claudia Lawrence article and the sad news on a body in the river. This is three days old now? Not the top news.
Sad to see the Press has moved this article above the Claudia Lawrence article and the sad news on a body in the river. This is three days old now? Not the top news. York2000
  • Score: -259

3:25pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

the original Homer wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
Kandro wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.
the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??
Archibald I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er). I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse). I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be. BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation.
Think that’s based in Australia.

My point is why keep getting money and wasting it on minor schemes that lets be honest are never as successful (if at all) then planned. Why not actually make a difference like every other major city in the UK and Europe and invest in proper public transport.

You can sell bikes cheaper but the fact is that won’t encourage people... its not the cost of cycling that puts people off... The same for p&r (well less the p&r dependant on the nature of journey)

We need to get busses and cars off the road and for me the council have a network of railway which they have not tapped into.. the government papers published around 2 years ago suggested that funding was available centrally to open up closed stations or indeed build new ones to help fill a growing network. But as we are York we just plonk more busses on the road and add some cycle paths? Why? Does it decrease road use? No? When I’ve cycled I’ve gone on the road rather then a cycle path as that’s what you are meant to do.. i don’t think oh wont cycle to down today as I’d have to use a road not a cycle path.... the same with p&r. Its new location is terrible... the roundabout and lights in that area during college are bad enough. Add large busses either way and you add to the problem. Yet its location is right next to a 4 track railway with room to add in sidings for a station. From there you could park up and go direct without traffic to the station. Thus decreasing road congestion. This scheme could also be used for the new stadium and monks x. The fact is people will only use a service if it is better for them.. With traffic on tadcaster road at peak times going in and out I’d take a train if I lived that way and just on from there. No jam to wait in....

Obviously the above would be futures thinking and required investment papers etc putting together which is a lot harder then just providing more busses......

People can cycle drive or bus.. then complain about which one should take priority when in reality options not involving road use should be maximised to avoid what peddling pillock calls the ticking time bomb (not to be confused with ornament non explosive bomb)...
[quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kandro[/bold] wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.[/p][/quote]the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??[/p][/quote]Archibald I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er). I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse). I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be. BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation.[/p][/quote]Think that’s based in Australia. My point is why keep getting money and wasting it on minor schemes that lets be honest are never as successful (if at all) then planned. Why not actually make a difference like every other major city in the UK and Europe and invest in proper public transport. You can sell bikes cheaper but the fact is that won’t encourage people... its not the cost of cycling that puts people off... The same for p&r (well less the p&r dependant on the nature of journey) We need to get busses and cars off the road and for me the council have a network of railway which they have not tapped into.. the government papers published around 2 years ago suggested that funding was available centrally to open up closed stations or indeed build new ones to help fill a growing network. But as we are York we just plonk more busses on the road and add some cycle paths? Why? Does it decrease road use? No? When I’ve cycled I’ve gone on the road rather then a cycle path as that’s what you are meant to do.. i don’t think oh wont cycle to down today as I’d have to use a road not a cycle path.... the same with p&r. Its new location is terrible... the roundabout and lights in that area during college are bad enough. Add large busses either way and you add to the problem. Yet its location is right next to a 4 track railway with room to add in sidings for a station. From there you could park up and go direct without traffic to the station. Thus decreasing road congestion. This scheme could also be used for the new stadium and monks x. The fact is people will only use a service if it is better for them.. With traffic on tadcaster road at peak times going in and out I’d take a train if I lived that way and just on from there. No jam to wait in.... Obviously the above would be futures thinking and required investment papers etc putting together which is a lot harder then just providing more busses...... People can cycle drive or bus.. then complain about which one should take priority when in reality options not involving road use should be maximised to avoid what peddling pillock calls the ticking time bomb (not to be confused with ornament non explosive bomb)... Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 161

3:54pm Thu 17 Apr 14

YorkPatrol says...

the original Homer wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
Kandro wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.
the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??
Archibald I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er). I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse). I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be. BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation.
The bike is not a serious mode of transport no matter how cheap one can be purchased – It’s a leisure activity for the minority..

The council see biking as an easy and cheap target to resolve future traffic issues – a few white lines painted, a bit of tarmac, close a bridge here and there… job done. When will it sink in that people can not simply change their mode of transport and just jump on a bike – Did dummy Merrutt really think we’d all run off to Halfords when Lendal Bridge closed biking round York like a bunch of idiots?

The core infrastructure needs the investment – Road capacity increases, rail and tram links, river taxi’s, shuttle bus services etc etc… Bikes should be way down the agenda and the farce that was Lendal Bridge, Water End and Fulford Road to name but a few should have been lessons learned rather than an adopted policy…. Talk about flogging a dead horse...

The bike is not practical if you need to carry anything more than yourself, need to go further than a mile or two or need to travel during the winter months to which only a few gimps will disagree
[quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kandro[/bold] wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.[/p][/quote]the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??[/p][/quote]Archibald I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er). I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse). I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be. BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation.[/p][/quote]The bike is not a serious mode of transport no matter how cheap one can be purchased – It’s a leisure activity for the minority.. The council see biking as an easy and cheap target to resolve future traffic issues – a few white lines painted, a bit of tarmac, close a bridge here and there… job done. When will it sink in that people can not simply change their mode of transport and just jump on a bike – Did dummy Merrutt really think we’d all run off to Halfords when Lendal Bridge closed biking round York like a bunch of idiots? The core infrastructure needs the investment – Road capacity increases, rail and tram links, river taxi’s, shuttle bus services etc etc… Bikes should be way down the agenda and the farce that was Lendal Bridge, Water End and Fulford Road to name but a few should have been lessons learned rather than an adopted policy…. Talk about flogging a dead horse... The bike is not practical if you need to carry anything more than yourself, need to go further than a mile or two or need to travel during the winter months to which only a few gimps will disagree YorkPatrol
  • Score: 348

4:48pm Thu 17 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
the original Homer wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
Kandro wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.
the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??
Archibald I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er). I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse). I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be. BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation.
The bike is not a serious mode of transport no matter how cheap one can be purchased – It’s a leisure activity for the minority..

The council see biking as an easy and cheap target to resolve future traffic issues – a few white lines painted, a bit of tarmac, close a bridge here and there… job done. When will it sink in that people can not simply change their mode of transport and just jump on a bike – Did dummy Merrutt really think we’d all run off to Halfords when Lendal Bridge closed biking round York like a bunch of idiots?

The core infrastructure needs the investment – Road capacity increases, rail and tram links, river taxi’s, shuttle bus services etc etc… Bikes should be way down the agenda and the farce that was Lendal Bridge, Water End and Fulford Road to name but a few should have been lessons learned rather than an adopted policy…. Talk about flogging a dead horse...

The bike is not practical if you need to carry anything more than yourself, need to go further than a mile or two or need to travel during the winter months to which only a few gimps will disagree
In other words the bicycle is suitable for many short distance commutes. Enlightened employers provide safe cycle parking and changing facilities, and there is a useful range of wet weather cycle clothing that does not resemble lycra in any way.
Employees who cycle to work will arrive far less stressed, be more punctual and healthier.
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kandro[/bold] wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.[/p][/quote]the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??[/p][/quote]Archibald I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er). I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse). I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be. BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation.[/p][/quote]The bike is not a serious mode of transport no matter how cheap one can be purchased – It’s a leisure activity for the minority.. The council see biking as an easy and cheap target to resolve future traffic issues – a few white lines painted, a bit of tarmac, close a bridge here and there… job done. When will it sink in that people can not simply change their mode of transport and just jump on a bike – Did dummy Merrutt really think we’d all run off to Halfords when Lendal Bridge closed biking round York like a bunch of idiots? The core infrastructure needs the investment – Road capacity increases, rail and tram links, river taxi’s, shuttle bus services etc etc… Bikes should be way down the agenda and the farce that was Lendal Bridge, Water End and Fulford Road to name but a few should have been lessons learned rather than an adopted policy…. Talk about flogging a dead horse... The bike is not practical if you need to carry anything more than yourself, need to go further than a mile or two or need to travel during the winter months to which only a few gimps will disagree[/p][/quote]In other words the bicycle is suitable for many short distance commutes. Enlightened employers provide safe cycle parking and changing facilities, and there is a useful range of wet weather cycle clothing that does not resemble lycra in any way. Employees who cycle to work will arrive far less stressed, be more punctual and healthier. pedalling paul
  • Score: 543

5:16pm Thu 17 Apr 14

again says...

York2000 wrote:
I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads.

"What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying.

"There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs."

Food for thought.
Well said!
[quote][p][bold]York2000[/bold] wrote: I read an interesting quote which instantly reminded me of the Press website and comments threads. "What appals me is that people mistake this constant storm of trivial abuse for some kind of freedom … It's not. It's actually a huge distraction of the bread and circuses variety. To a large extent proper civic engagement, community engagement, proper political debate and activism has been replaced by this. By illogic. By platitudes. And actually a lot of it is just abuse and bullying. "There's a nasty, narrow little conformism. And people are afraid, quite understandably, to differ from the norm. I think it's a very sad state of affairs." Food for thought.[/p][/quote]Well said! again
  • Score: 411

5:34pm Thu 17 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
strangebuttrue? wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
YorkPatrol wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits!
I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried
Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn.
Wow some sense being talked for once...

Where are you guys when people are making up some of the more fanciful theories...? ;)
From Minster FM:

16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail:

"Anna,
If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up.
Thanks - Dave."

In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying:

"A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss."
So why all the positive marks on this story for anti-council comments?

I know they've shown lack of aptitude, but your it still makes no sense.

Well whichever 14 year old does it will be laughing his backside off at all of the bluster on here.....
Don't know why negative comments have positive votes all I do know is that at 11:00 pm yesterday they were actively being marked down. Then when we started to comment on it it suddenly started to go the other way.
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: All the plus marks on this article's comments must be giving the council conspiracy theorists fits![/p][/quote]I doubt it…. Their brains are already freeze dried[/p][/quote]Its just the same kid messing about. Yaaaawn.[/p][/quote]Wow some sense being talked for once... Where are you guys when people are making up some of the more fanciful theories...? ;)[/p][/quote]From Minster FM: 16th July 2013, Dave Merrett sent Anna Semlyen the following e-mail: "Anna, If you're around and have seen the last few days papers with all the anti-20mph, can you get some of the supporters to write in in favour / go on The Press website ditto to even things up. Thanks - Dave." In his e-mail on 21st July Dave Merrett finishes off by saying: "A couple of letters attacking the local LDs and Tories for being Luddities on this, quoting Norman (Lib Dem Transport Minister, Norman Baker) etc. would not go amiss."[/p][/quote]So why all the positive marks on this story for anti-council comments? I know they've shown lack of aptitude, but your it still makes no sense. Well whichever 14 year old does it will be laughing his backside off at all of the bluster on here.....[/p][/quote]Don't know why negative comments have positive votes all I do know is that at 11:00 pm yesterday they were actively being marked down. Then when we started to comment on it it suddenly started to go the other way. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 234

5:57pm Thu 17 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Did I here our new man on the radio today saying congestion is not going to go away?
If he did say that then I take it he means he has no intension of getting rid of Mr Merretts traffic constraining measures so we can look forward to still being constrained by short set lights and the myriad of other measures which have resulted in our city becoming massively more polluted.

I got the impression what Mr Levene is intending to do is talk us into accepting more of the same.

Wonder if the motorist panel Mr Levene said he was going to set up will be full of 20s plenty supporters with Peddling Paul in the chair. (PP does say he sometimes uses a car)
Did I here our new man on the radio today saying congestion is not going to go away? If he did say that then I take it he means he has no intension of getting rid of Mr Merretts traffic constraining measures so we can look forward to still being constrained by short set lights and the myriad of other measures which have resulted in our city becoming massively more polluted. I got the impression what Mr Levene is intending to do is talk us into accepting more of the same. Wonder if the motorist panel Mr Levene said he was going to set up will be full of 20s plenty supporters with Peddling Paul in the chair. (PP does say he sometimes uses a car) strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 86

6:04pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Caecilius says...

Interesting to see that the Press isn't permitting comments on the news that city centre footfall in March - while Lendal Bridge was closed to cars - was 10% greater than in March 2014, when it was open. Just as there was record footfall in the run-up to Christmas. Both these facts clearly call into question the claim by a minority of city centre businesses that the reason they've been doing poorly has been a lack of customers, caused by the bridge closure.
Interesting to see that the Press isn't permitting comments on the news that city centre footfall in March - while Lendal Bridge was closed to cars - was 10% greater than in March 2014, when it was open. Just as there was record footfall in the run-up to Christmas. Both these facts clearly call into question the claim by a minority of city centre businesses that the reason they've been doing poorly has been a lack of customers, caused by the bridge closure. Caecilius
  • Score: 63

6:24pm Thu 17 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Caecilius wrote:
Interesting to see that the Press isn't permitting comments on the news that city centre footfall in March - while Lendal Bridge was closed to cars - was 10% greater than in March 2014, when it was open. Just as there was record footfall in the run-up to Christmas. Both these facts clearly call into question the claim by a minority of city centre businesses that the reason they've been doing poorly has been a lack of customers, caused by the bridge closure.
Or did Dave and Anne just get their supporters to walk up and down in front of the camera all day?

I was in town just before Christmas and I have never seen the place so empty in all my life. Empty car parks empty shops empty streets. The only place you could see signs of life were in the proximity Mr Merretts short set traffic lights.
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: Interesting to see that the Press isn't permitting comments on the news that city centre footfall in March - while Lendal Bridge was closed to cars - was 10% greater than in March 2014, when it was open. Just as there was record footfall in the run-up to Christmas. Both these facts clearly call into question the claim by a minority of city centre businesses that the reason they've been doing poorly has been a lack of customers, caused by the bridge closure.[/p][/quote]Or did Dave and Anne just get their supporters to walk up and down in front of the camera all day? I was in town just before Christmas and I have never seen the place so empty in all my life. Empty car parks empty shops empty streets. The only place you could see signs of life were in the proximity Mr Merretts short set traffic lights. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 641

6:32pm Thu 17 Apr 14

againstthecuts says...

Can't wait for the next elections!!!! Vote ukip.
Can't wait for the next elections!!!! Vote ukip. againstthecuts
  • Score: 101

6:53pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Cheeky face says...

My e-mail to parking re trial of free parking, at the feedback team's direction, has been forwarded to the Director of City and Environment. Chance of a 5 working day reply has as much chance as emptying the North sea with a colander. Is this post that of a certain Darren Richardson?
My e-mail to parking re trial of free parking, at the feedback team's direction, has been forwarded to the Director of City and Environment. Chance of a 5 working day reply has as much chance as emptying the North sea with a colander. Is this post that of a certain Darren Richardson? Cheeky face
  • Score: 383

6:55pm Thu 17 Apr 14

YorkPatrol says...

pedalling paul wrote:
YorkPatrol wrote:
the original Homer wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
Kandro wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.
the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??
Archibald I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er). I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse). I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be. BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation.
The bike is not a serious mode of transport no matter how cheap one can be purchased – It’s a leisure activity for the minority..

The council see biking as an easy and cheap target to resolve future traffic issues – a few white lines painted, a bit of tarmac, close a bridge here and there… job done. When will it sink in that people can not simply change their mode of transport and just jump on a bike – Did dummy Merrutt really think we’d all run off to Halfords when Lendal Bridge closed biking round York like a bunch of idiots?

The core infrastructure needs the investment – Road capacity increases, rail and tram links, river taxi’s, shuttle bus services etc etc… Bikes should be way down the agenda and the farce that was Lendal Bridge, Water End and Fulford Road to name but a few should have been lessons learned rather than an adopted policy…. Talk about flogging a dead horse...

The bike is not practical if you need to carry anything more than yourself, need to go further than a mile or two or need to travel during the winter months to which only a few gimps will disagree
In other words the bicycle is suitable for many short distance commutes. Enlightened employers provide safe cycle parking and changing facilities, and there is a useful range of wet weather cycle clothing that does not resemble lycra in any way.
Employees who cycle to work will arrive far less stressed, be more punctual and healthier.
No, far from it - Highly impractical for commuting.

Employees arrive wet, bedraggled, sweaty, stressed out as they haven’t been able to carry their basic essentials, late as they need to mess about locking their bikes, changing, showering.. that’s if they are lucky enough to arrive without a broken neck.

However, motorists and rail travellers etc arrive bright, refreshed and de-stressed having spent their commutes in a warm safe environment and not having to worry if their batteries have run out on their silly flashing LED lights for the dangerous journey home not being able to carry even the smallest amount of shopping undertaken in their lunch breaks.

Bikes - leisure only

Re-arrange these words – Flogging, horse, dead
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Kandro[/bold] wrote: If they really want increased bicycle useage why do they not set up a 2nd hand bike sales project....where the bled dry tax payer can get a cheap bike. People can trade in old bikes that can then be reburbished. Stolen bikes that are unclaimed can go into the scheme. And a clear compensation scheme for any cyclist knocked or seriously injured that everyone is educated on.[/p][/quote]the compensations scheme already exists... its called suing the driver for damages. As for funding a 2nd hand bike projects i would rather put my money in Woolworths shares... Why should everyone fund a transportation choice for others? If you want to cycle by all means do it.. get a bike for £30... Its like saying lets all subsidise bus use for people who want to use them? Or do i get extra money for walking into work??[/p][/quote]Archibald I think there is already a charity in York which fixes donated bikes and then sells them cheap(er). I agree that the accident compensation is unnecessary (suing the driver is the right recourse). I have my own views on subsidised alternative transport though. I would support subsidised P&R and even subsidised cycling if it could be done cost effectively. £1.3m cycle paths aren't cost effective, but cheap bikes could be. BTW I think Woolworth's are still in existence as on online and warehouse operation.[/p][/quote]The bike is not a serious mode of transport no matter how cheap one can be purchased – It’s a leisure activity for the minority.. The council see biking as an easy and cheap target to resolve future traffic issues – a few white lines painted, a bit of tarmac, close a bridge here and there… job done. When will it sink in that people can not simply change their mode of transport and just jump on a bike – Did dummy Merrutt really think we’d all run off to Halfords when Lendal Bridge closed biking round York like a bunch of idiots? The core infrastructure needs the investment – Road capacity increases, rail and tram links, river taxi’s, shuttle bus services etc etc… Bikes should be way down the agenda and the farce that was Lendal Bridge, Water End and Fulford Road to name but a few should have been lessons learned rather than an adopted policy…. Talk about flogging a dead horse... The bike is not practical if you need to carry anything more than yourself, need to go further than a mile or two or need to travel during the winter months to which only a few gimps will disagree[/p][/quote]In other words the bicycle is suitable for many short distance commutes. Enlightened employers provide safe cycle parking and changing facilities, and there is a useful range of wet weather cycle clothing that does not resemble lycra in any way. Employees who cycle to work will arrive far less stressed, be more punctual and healthier.[/p][/quote]No, far from it - Highly impractical for commuting. Employees arrive wet, bedraggled, sweaty, stressed out as they haven’t been able to carry their basic essentials, late as they need to mess about locking their bikes, changing, showering.. that’s if they are lucky enough to arrive without a broken neck. However, motorists and rail travellers etc arrive bright, refreshed and de-stressed having spent their commutes in a warm safe environment and not having to worry if their batteries have run out on their silly flashing LED lights for the dangerous journey home not being able to carry even the smallest amount of shopping undertaken in their lunch breaks. Bikes - leisure only Re-arrange these words – Flogging, horse, dead YorkPatrol
  • Score: 14

7:01pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Cheeky face says...

Footfall and spending are very different issues.

We still have evidence of window/advice shoppers entering York to find what they want, and get advice. Then they go home and google for the best price.

We can't stop culture change of shoppers or travellers.

What we can do Is push for the new transport guy to obtain a good cross section of road users to create think tanks. Will this happen?
Footfall and spending are very different issues. We still have evidence of window/advice shoppers entering York to find what they want, and get advice. Then they go home and google for the best price. We can't stop culture change of shoppers or travellers. What we can do Is push for the new transport guy to obtain a good cross section of road users to create think tanks. Will this happen? Cheeky face
  • Score: 6

7:15pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Cheeky face says...

York Patrol is right. Cycling is now primarily either for leisure/exercise or racing. York's traffic congestion produces more cycling than many cities but the car/bus commuting is prominent.
Years ago it was different; but the motor car is with us until it is no longer the most convenient form of transport. In the 1950's York workers were helped home by the use of "point duty" coppers at Dalton terrace, Rowntrees bridge etc to get them home. The majority of the workers were cyclists; and many used Moss St etc to miss traffic lights. Times have changed and each town/city needs to tackles it's own transport problems with intelligent decision makers. Experience and knowledge is NOT enough on it's own!
York Patrol is right. Cycling is now primarily either for leisure/exercise or racing. York's traffic congestion produces more cycling than many cities but the car/bus commuting is prominent. Years ago it was different; but the motor car is with us until it is no longer the most convenient form of transport. In the 1950's York workers were helped home by the use of "point duty" coppers at Dalton terrace, Rowntrees bridge etc to get them home. The majority of the workers were cyclists; and many used Moss St etc to miss traffic lights. Times have changed and each town/city needs to tackles it's own transport problems with intelligent decision makers. Experience and knowledge is NOT enough on it's own! Cheeky face
  • Score: 8

7:21pm Thu 17 Apr 14

JasBro says...

Caecilius wrote:
Interesting to see that the Press isn't permitting comments on the news that city centre footfall in March - while Lendal Bridge was closed to cars - was 10% greater than in March 2014, when it was open. Just as there was record footfall in the run-up to Christmas. Both these facts clearly call into question the claim by a minority of city centre businesses that the reason they've been doing poorly has been a lack of customers, caused by the bridge closure.
The footfall cameras were changed in October 2013, so those comparisons are meaningless.

From a Press article last October.....

“The council recently announced its intention to invest in footfall cameras at key points across the city-centre to gain a greater understanding of resident and visitor use and movement around the city, to inform future initiatives and investment decisions.”
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: Interesting to see that the Press isn't permitting comments on the news that city centre footfall in March - while Lendal Bridge was closed to cars - was 10% greater than in March 2014, when it was open. Just as there was record footfall in the run-up to Christmas. Both these facts clearly call into question the claim by a minority of city centre businesses that the reason they've been doing poorly has been a lack of customers, caused by the bridge closure.[/p][/quote]The footfall cameras were changed in October 2013, so those comparisons are meaningless. From a Press article last October..... “The council recently announced its intention to invest in footfall cameras at key points across the city-centre to gain a greater understanding of resident and visitor use and movement around the city, to inform future initiatives and investment decisions.” JasBro
  • Score: 225

7:43pm Thu 17 Apr 14

Saracen says...

CRWPROJ wrote:
Reported... "Coun Merrett moved to take up the new portfolio of Environmental Services, Planning and Sustainability...in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”. Should we read that he has been sacked and he is busy on Wikepedia becoming an expert in another subject about which he has 'no hands' on experience. Please, tell me he is not going to get involved in the Allerton Park fiasco? Why do these people believe that only a 'party' can be elected, independant councillors represent the community that elects them, and are not distracted by national ambitions...
Totally agree. Local government used to be run by independents who knew the people whom had elected them. This all changed in the 1970's when the Labour government voted to pay councillors. We then got "career" politicians in local government who treated it just like another job application - this is why you hear them talking about "gaining power" or "winning" - it's not a competition for who is King! If we'd had a revolution in the 1790's perhaps out local politicians would remember that it's a priviledge to represent the people and who remove their heads "if it goes to their heads". A group voting as one and pushing national policies - which simply don't convert from city to countryside has been the biggest single loss to democracy in this country for the last 40 years. Ban party politics in Local Government, I say.
[quote][p][bold]CRWPROJ[/bold] wrote: Reported... "Coun Merrett moved to take up the new portfolio of Environmental Services, Planning and Sustainability...in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”. Should we read that he has been sacked and he is busy on Wikepedia becoming an expert in another subject about which he has 'no hands' on experience. Please, tell me he is not going to get involved in the Allerton Park fiasco? Why do these people believe that only a 'party' can be elected, independant councillors represent the community that elects them, and are not distracted by national ambitions...[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Local government used to be run by independents who knew the people whom had elected them. This all changed in the 1970's when the Labour government voted to pay councillors. We then got "career" politicians in local government who treated it just like another job application - this is why you hear them talking about "gaining power" or "winning" - it's not a competition for who is King! If we'd had a revolution in the 1790's perhaps out local politicians would remember that it's a priviledge to represent the people and who remove their heads "if it goes to their heads". A group voting as one and pushing national policies - which simply don't convert from city to countryside has been the biggest single loss to democracy in this country for the last 40 years. Ban party politics in Local Government, I say. Saracen
  • Score: 11

10:26pm Thu 17 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

PP Said "Employees who cycle to work will arrive far less stressed, be more punctual and healthier."

Yes stress can be brought on by bullying (use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something) Something like trying to force you out of your car?
PP Said "Employees who cycle to work will arrive far less stressed, be more punctual and healthier." Yes stress can be brought on by bullying (use superior strength or influence to intimidate (someone), typically to force them to do something) Something like trying to force you out of your car? strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 8

11:11pm Thu 17 Apr 14

nowthen says...

Cllr Alexander said
“We will focus on York’s local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.”......Tha
t's what it's all about folks ; propagating and promoting the party and sucking up to his dogma sodden idols. James Alexander couldn't give a flying you know what about York's residents ; it's all about him and his overriding ambition to be an MP. Most of us have seen through him from day one , and most of us will remember his gagging attempts , sidestepping, buck passing and adolescent sound bites come the elections.
Cllr Alexander said “We will focus on York’s local elections standing on our record to stop a Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition taking control of the council.”......Tha t's what it's all about folks ; propagating and promoting the party and sucking up to his dogma sodden idols. James Alexander couldn't give a flying you know what about York's residents ; it's all about him and his overriding ambition to be an MP. Most of us have seen through him from day one , and most of us will remember his gagging attempts , sidestepping, buck passing and adolescent sound bites come the elections. nowthen
  • Score: 12

11:19pm Thu 17 Apr 14

jay, york says...

Seems like the CoYC members and their cronies have been "encouraged to even things out " again judging by the voting (Merretts words in the recent e-mail from him to Semlyen, if i remember correctly). It also seems that they have "been encouraged" not to make any comments or any posts here, hence their silence.

So one of them has what they all think is a brilliant idea - to rig the votes to make it look like they really do have support from York residents - the more negatives, the better they will look, Their hope will be that all the comments here about their incompetetance will then stop - and they are that naive they probably believe it. This sort of encouragement (or should that be orders) usally come from someone at a more "senior" level.

They can vote down as much as they like - and it seems that the comments that really get to them attract the most attention from them (ie. negative votes).
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But I will say it again and again - it is what people say that matters - and here people can speak out without being gagged by CoYC. CoYC CANNOT silence us.- and the more they vote down, the more we will speak out.

Finally, I was never a political person, but when I see deceit and incompetance on such a grand scale, the amount of traffic congestion actually being created by CoYC, the amount of money it is costing the residents of inner and outer York (yes people who live outside of York do have to pay their council tax to CoYC) and how it is making York look so riduculous and a laughing stock (yes the internet is worldwide) - it really makes me angry and so determined that I will NEVER support anything to do with the labour party.
Seems like the CoYC members and their cronies have been "encouraged to even things out " again judging by the voting (Merretts words in the recent e-mail from him to Semlyen, if i remember correctly). It also seems that they have "been encouraged" not to make any comments or any posts here, hence their silence. So one of them has what they all think is a brilliant idea - to rig the votes to make it look like they really do have support from York residents - the more negatives, the better they will look, Their hope will be that all the comments here about their incompetetance will then stop - and they are that naive they probably believe it. This sort of encouragement (or should that be orders) usally come from someone at a more "senior" level. They can vote down as much as they like - and it seems that the comments that really get to them attract the most attention from them (ie. negative votes). . But I will say it again and again - it is what people say that matters - and here people can speak out without being gagged by CoYC. CoYC CANNOT silence us.- and the more they vote down, the more we will speak out. Finally, I was never a political person, but when I see deceit and incompetance on such a grand scale, the amount of traffic congestion actually being created by CoYC, the amount of money it is costing the residents of inner and outer York (yes people who live outside of York do have to pay their council tax to CoYC) and how it is making York look so riduculous and a laughing stock (yes the internet is worldwide) - it really makes me angry and so determined that I will NEVER support anything to do with the labour party. jay, york
  • Score: 11

11:23pm Thu 17 Apr 14

jay, york says...

Saracen wrote:
CRWPROJ wrote: Reported... "Coun Merrett moved to take up the new portfolio of Environmental Services, Planning and Sustainability...in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”. Should we read that he has been sacked and he is busy on Wikepedia becoming an expert in another subject about which he has 'no hands' on experience. Please, tell me he is not going to get involved in the Allerton Park fiasco? Why do these people believe that only a 'party' can be elected, independant councillors represent the community that elects them, and are not distracted by national ambitions...
Totally agree. Local government used to be run by independents who knew the people whom had elected them. This all changed in the 1970's when the Labour government voted to pay councillors. We then got "career" politicians in local government who treated it just like another job application - this is why you hear them talking about "gaining power" or "winning" - it's not a competition for who is King! If we'd had a revolution in the 1790's perhaps out local politicians would remember that it's a priviledge to represent the people and who remove their heads "if it goes to their heads". A group voting as one and pushing national policies - which simply don't convert from city to countryside has been the biggest single loss to democracy in this country for the last 40 years. Ban party politics in Local Government, I say.
VERY, VERY WELL SAID BOTH
[quote][p][bold]Saracen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CRWPROJ[/bold] wrote: Reported... "Coun Merrett moved to take up the new portfolio of Environmental Services, Planning and Sustainability...in which he has exceptional knowledge and experience”. Should we read that he has been sacked and he is busy on Wikepedia becoming an expert in another subject about which he has 'no hands' on experience. Please, tell me he is not going to get involved in the Allerton Park fiasco? Why do these people believe that only a 'party' can be elected, independant councillors represent the community that elects them, and are not distracted by national ambitions...[/p][/quote]Totally agree. Local government used to be run by independents who knew the people whom had elected them. This all changed in the 1970's when the Labour government voted to pay councillors. We then got "career" politicians in local government who treated it just like another job application - this is why you hear them talking about "gaining power" or "winning" - it's not a competition for who is King! If we'd had a revolution in the 1790's perhaps out local politicians would remember that it's a priviledge to represent the people and who remove their heads "if it goes to their heads". A group voting as one and pushing national policies - which simply don't convert from city to countryside has been the biggest single loss to democracy in this country for the last 40 years. Ban party politics in Local Government, I say.[/p][/quote]VERY, VERY WELL SAID BOTH jay, york
  • Score: 8

11:47pm Thu 17 Apr 14

jay, york says...

pedalling paul wrote:
strangebuttrue? wrote:
pedalling paul wrote: Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas? All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans. The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions. What are the challenges for LTP3? It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city. What is in LTP3? The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through: providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means. improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond. encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment. enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity. An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.
And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time? No increase in volume of traffic. Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases. Increased congestion. Increased Journey times. Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV?
And what would be the consequences for us all, of a traffic free for all? Like it or not, LTP3 is here and influencing detailed policy decisions.
There is only you pp/ hepworth that talks about a traffic free for all - what is the matter with you? Nobody has asked for that, not even your hated car drivers. The only thing that is wanted is a properly though out joined up transport system for York and surrounding area.. And this not achieved by closing roads, changing trafftic light timings, creating obstacles on the highway.
Dont think of things in such a narrow minded old fashioned way. Most modern thinking cities have rail links from the suburbs - other cities make use of their rivers. If York had options like this and the prices were set at a reasonable level (and this should also include Park and Ride) I am sure that a lot us would be more than happy to leave our cars at home.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Here's what Cllr Merrett's successor has to help him manage the ticking transport time bomb .......from the CoYC website. Anyone got any better ideas? All local authorities in England and Wales have a statutory duty to produce and keep under review a Local Transport Plan (LTP), which sets out their transport policies and plans. The City of York's Third Local Transport Plan (LTP3), covering the period April 2011 to March 2015 and beyond to 2031, has now been published. It sets out the transport policies and measures that will contribute to the city's economic prosperity over the next 20 years, whilst meeting challenging national and local targets for reducing emissions. What are the challenges for LTP3? It is expected that there will be a significant growth in jobs and housing over the next 15 - 20 years. The make up of York's population will also change over this period, with more older and dependent people expected to be living in the city. This will increase the pressures on the transport network, which could lead to current levels of delay increasing contributing to more emissions of greenhouse gases and pollutants that affect air quality in some areas of the city. What is in LTP3? The LTP3 builds on the successes of the first two Local Transport Plans. The priority for LTP3 is to provide a high quality, well planned, fully integrated and efficiently operated transport network in order to limit, as far as possible, any future delays and to enable the city to continue to function. This is expected to be achieved through: providing quality alternatives to the car to provide more choice and enable more trips to be undertaken by sustainable means. improving strategic links to enhance the wider connections with the key residential and employment areas in and around York, and beyond. encouraging behavioural change to maximise the use of walking, cycling and public transport and continue improving road safety tackling transport emissions to reduce the release of pollutants harmful to health and the environment. enhancing Public Streets and Spaces to improve the quality of life, minimise the impact of motorised traffic and encourage economic, social and cultural activity. An executive summary of LTP3 is also available.[/p][/quote]And after all that Paul what did Mr Merrett achieve in his time? No increase in volume of traffic. Year on year increases in pollution resulting in up to 48% increases in pollution and more generally 33% increases. Increased congestion. Increased Journey times. Now there are a few things you would not be putting on your CV?[/p][/quote]And what would be the consequences for us all, of a traffic free for all? Like it or not, LTP3 is here and influencing detailed policy decisions.[/p][/quote]There is only you pp/ hepworth that talks about a traffic free for all - what is the matter with you? Nobody has asked for that, not even your hated car drivers. The only thing that is wanted is a properly though out joined up transport system for York and surrounding area.. And this not achieved by closing roads, changing trafftic light timings, creating obstacles on the highway. Dont think of things in such a narrow minded old fashioned way. Most modern thinking cities have rail links from the suburbs - other cities make use of their rivers. If York had options like this and the prices were set at a reasonable level (and this should also include Park and Ride) I am sure that a lot us would be more than happy to leave our cars at home. jay, york
  • Score: 12

8:35am Fri 18 Apr 14

The OX says...

Footfall been 10% up on last March what a load of bull, dont you think not having SNOW this year had something to do with it, Do the Council numptys think we are that daft
Footfall been 10% up on last March what a load of bull, dont you think not having SNOW this year had something to do with it, Do the Council numptys think we are that daft The OX
  • Score: 10

12:28pm Fri 18 Apr 14

mitch2nd says...

Thats great put him in an environmental role so that he can mess that up too, he should have resigned and the fact that he didnt he should have been sacked, jobs for boys total Joke this council
Thats great put him in an environmental role so that he can mess that up too, he should have resigned and the fact that he didnt he should have been sacked, jobs for boys total Joke this council mitch2nd
  • Score: 11

7:36pm Sat 19 Apr 14

pault42 says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
I'd be interested to see what Sir Alan Sugar would say to these lot.
You're Fired! nuff said
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: I'd be interested to see what Sir Alan Sugar would say to these lot.[/p][/quote]You're Fired! nuff said pault42
  • Score: 5

7:51pm Sat 19 Apr 14

pault42 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............
'We are doomed' 'The end is nigh' and others come to mind, anyway, this fiasco has actually had the effect wanted on me, I will NOT take my car, or my family into York centre anymore, so looking forward to using more internet shopping and out of town shopping, so well done CYC, you've got rid of one of your polluting, despised motorists. Oh and of course the money we may have brought into the centres shops etc. I say again, Well done.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Despite all the foregoing hot air, the transport time bomb continues to quietly tick away. .................no matter who sits where or in what role............[/p][/quote]'We are doomed' 'The end is nigh' and others come to mind, anyway, this fiasco has actually had the effect wanted on me, I will NOT take my car, or my family into York centre anymore, so looking forward to using more internet shopping and out of town shopping, so well done CYC, you've got rid of one of your polluting, despised motorists. Oh and of course the money we may have brought into the centres shops etc. I say again, Well done. pault42
  • Score: 4

3:04pm Mon 21 Apr 14

pmskelton says...

The problem is that motorists live for their cars and have lost the use of their feet (that's those two things 3 foot below your backside) that they were born with.

Why not find your feet, and try doing something radical such as walking across Lendal Bridge? Who knows, you might even enjoy it.

York was built for the horse and cart, not to house a motorway full of motorised buggies. Keep cars out of York and lets have more pedestrians and cyclists, then we can live in a clean and attractive environment for a change.
The problem is that motorists live for their cars and have lost the use of their feet (that's those two things 3 foot below your backside) that they were born with. Why not find your feet, and try doing something radical such as walking across Lendal Bridge? Who knows, you might even enjoy it. York was built for the horse and cart, not to house a motorway full of motorised buggies. Keep cars out of York and lets have more pedestrians and cyclists, then we can live in a clean and attractive environment for a change. pmskelton
  • Score: -3

7:17pm Mon 21 Apr 14

JasBro says...

pmskelton wrote:
The problem is that motorists live for their cars and have lost the use of their feet (that's those two things 3 foot below your backside) that they were born with.

Why not find your feet, and try doing something radical such as walking across Lendal Bridge? Who knows, you might even enjoy it.

York was built for the horse and cart, not to house a motorway full of motorised buggies. Keep cars out of York and lets have more pedestrians and cyclists, then we can live in a clean and attractive environment for a change.
No, the problem is that extremists keep making ridiculous statements which do nothing but polarise opinion and hinder progressive transport policies.

Many of the people who walk across Lendal Bridge are probably drivers, and many motorists are also cyclists and bus users. The classification of someone as simply a motorist, cyclist or pedestrian is stupid and unhelpful.

York might well have been built for the horse and cart, but unless we want live in a medieval toy town then it has to adapt to modern inventions like bicycles, buses, trains, cars, toilets, radio, TV, computers, etc etc etc.

It's the 21st century, intelligent and achievable solutions are required.
[quote][p][bold]pmskelton[/bold] wrote: The problem is that motorists live for their cars and have lost the use of their feet (that's those two things 3 foot below your backside) that they were born with. Why not find your feet, and try doing something radical such as walking across Lendal Bridge? Who knows, you might even enjoy it. York was built for the horse and cart, not to house a motorway full of motorised buggies. Keep cars out of York and lets have more pedestrians and cyclists, then we can live in a clean and attractive environment for a change.[/p][/quote]No, the problem is that extremists keep making ridiculous statements which do nothing but polarise opinion and hinder progressive transport policies. Many of the people who walk across Lendal Bridge are probably drivers, and many motorists are also cyclists and bus users. The classification of someone as simply a motorist, cyclist or pedestrian is stupid and unhelpful. York might well have been built for the horse and cart, but unless we want live in a medieval toy town then it has to adapt to modern inventions like bicycles, buses, trains, cars, toilets, radio, TV, computers, etc etc etc. It's the 21st century, intelligent and achievable solutions are required. JasBro
  • Score: 2

9:59am Wed 23 Apr 14

tommytuckamotor says...

Cheeky face wrote:
We have 20mph limits in Scarborough. No fines yet; and very little evidence of speeds being reduced.

But the speed of the wardens when your paid parking time is at an end is tremendous; the wardens appear immediately as if by magic!

Nationally after legislation was introduced very few fines for middle land hoggeers.
Middle lane hoggers ...... Now theres something that nyp avoid
[quote][p][bold]Cheeky face[/bold] wrote: We have 20mph limits in Scarborough. No fines yet; and very little evidence of speeds being reduced. But the speed of the wardens when your paid parking time is at an end is tremendous; the wardens appear immediately as if by magic! Nationally after legislation was introduced very few fines for middle land hoggeers.[/p][/quote]Middle lane hoggers ...... Now theres something that nyp avoid tommytuckamotor
  • Score: 0

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