York Civic Trust invites ideas for area around Clifford's Tower

Ideas invited to turn Eye of York into a ‘world-class space’

Peter Brown of York Civic Trust and Helen Graham of the York Living With History Inquiry look at plans for an improved Eye of York

Talks are to take place on how to spruce up the area around Clifford’s Tower.

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HERITAGE leaders are looking for ideas to turn the Eye of York into a “world-class space” fit for the world-class monument at its heart.

York Civic Trust says the area around Clifford’s Tower has been an eyesore for far too long.

It is organising a ‘gathering of ideas’ meeting to look for ways of ‘redesigning’ the spaces around the castle.

Civic Trust director Peter Brown said if the right scheme could be developed, “we may be able to proceed with applications for funding from other charitable trusts.”

The Civic Trust is organising an initial meeting at the Friends Meeting House on June 2.

It is inviting groups with an interest in the Eye of York – including the city council, English Heritage, York Museums Trust, Visit York, the York Archaeological Trust and other businesses and organisations with a connection to the site.

But there would also be up to 15 places available for members of the public who were prepared to give up a day of their time, said Mr Brown.

The Castle car park and parts of Piccadilly had “suffered from planning blight for generations,” Mr Brown said.

The blight on Piccadilly itself appeared to have lifted as a result of “a series of piecemeal developments” including LaSalle’s plans to redevelop the area around the Banana Warehouse and the council’s proposed sale of the former Reynard’s Garage.

But the castle car park, built in the 1940s over the foundations of an abandoned 1930s city hall, remained an eyesore.

“York Civic Trust believes there is an opportunity for a community-led project to bring forward general proposals to redesign the spaces around Clifford’s Tower, and to create, at last, a world-class setting for the world-class monuments,” Mr Brown added.

“There are many stakeholders who would wish to see this campaign succeed and the Trust would like to bring them all together to participate in a workshop – a ‘gathering of ideas’ – which distils down the principles through which any development on the site could take place.”

The meeting on June 2 is being organised by the Civic Trust as part of an Arts and Humanities Research Council-funded project, the York Living With History Inquiry, looking at the way decisions affecting York’s heritage are made.

If you would like to attend the meeting, email PeterBrown@yorkcivictrust.co.uk

Places will be allocated on a first-come, first-served basis.

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10:02am Sat 12 Apr 14

Woody G Mellor says...

Get rid of that car park and grass it over. Hold jousting displays etc. What a back-drop Cliffords Tower would be! The tourists would pour in!
Get rid of that car park and grass it over. Hold jousting displays etc. What a back-drop Cliffords Tower would be! The tourists would pour in! Woody G Mellor
  • Score: -71

10:16am Sat 12 Apr 14

Oaklands Resident says...

First priority: Repair the surface of the Castle Car Park which is York's most popular.

Is a safety hazard at present and much more of an embarrassment to the City than the nearby Eye of York.
First priority: Repair the surface of the Castle Car Park which is York's most popular. Is a safety hazard at present and much more of an embarrassment to the City than the nearby Eye of York. Oaklands Resident
  • Score: -47

10:18am Sat 12 Apr 14

RingoStarr says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Get rid of that car park and grass it over. Hold jousting displays etc. What a back-drop Cliffords Tower would be! The tourists would pour in!
...but wouldn't be able to come as there would be nowhere to park their cars!
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: Get rid of that car park and grass it over. Hold jousting displays etc. What a back-drop Cliffords Tower would be! The tourists would pour in![/p][/quote]...but wouldn't be able to come as there would be nowhere to park their cars! RingoStarr
  • Score: -9

10:25am Sat 12 Apr 14

notmyrealname says...

the car park spaces appear to have been made for cars about 30 years ago as it is impossible to open your doors. Get rid of it and do as Woody says Tourists would love it
the car park spaces appear to have been made for cars about 30 years ago as it is impossible to open your doors. Get rid of it and do as Woody says Tourists would love it notmyrealname
  • Score: 6

11:22am Sat 12 Apr 14

again says...

How weird! To use such a marvellous space to park cars. It really is time to show we can do better; people don't come to York to look at cars, they can see them anywhere. With the new park-and-rides the need for cars to park in York should be much reduced.
How weird! To use such a marvellous space to park cars. It really is time to show we can do better; people don't come to York to look at cars, they can see them anywhere. With the new park-and-rides the need for cars to park in York should be much reduced. again
  • Score: 5

11:27am Sat 12 Apr 14

bravo whisky says...

The Civic Trust should not even invite York Council to their meeting, all they would want is either Council housing or another hotel on the site.
The Civic Trust should not even invite York Council to their meeting, all they would want is either Council housing or another hotel on the site. bravo whisky
  • Score: 3

12:38pm Sat 12 Apr 14

pedalling paul says...

I'd rather see the car parking replaced by one of these........
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I'd rather see the car parking replaced by one of these........ http://bicycledutch. wordpress.com/2014/0 4/10/the-bicycle-app le/ pedalling paul
  • Score: 46

2:24pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Hereiamagainhaha says...

pedalling paul wrote:
I'd rather see the car parking replaced by one of these........
http://bicycledutch.

wordpress.com/2014/0

4/10/the-bicycle-app

le/
Go away trying to bully people into cycling.........
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: I'd rather see the car parking replaced by one of these........ http://bicycledutch. wordpress.com/2014/0 4/10/the-bicycle-app le/[/p][/quote]Go away trying to bully people into cycling......... Hereiamagainhaha
  • Score: -27

5:29pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Non-corporate entity says...

First, get rid of all tarmac; second, build a grassy park space where the old car park is; third, create a huge mosaic of an eye where the old eye is.
Simple.
First, get rid of all tarmac; second, build a grassy park space where the old car park is; third, create a huge mosaic of an eye where the old eye is. Simple. Non-corporate entity
  • Score: 23

5:33pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Non-corporate entity says...

Continued, to replace the lost car park spaces build a multistory where the empty office block stand just across the Foss river with a nice new bridge directly from the multistory to the new park area.
Continued, to replace the lost car park spaces build a multistory where the empty office block stand just across the Foss river with a nice new bridge directly from the multistory to the new park area. Non-corporate entity
  • Score: -34

5:35pm Sat 12 Apr 14

beermeup says...

Oh no!!! Wasn't the phrase 'world class space' used about the Kings Square debacle? Lord help us!!
Oh no!!! Wasn't the phrase 'world class space' used about the Kings Square debacle? Lord help us!! beermeup
  • Score: -48

6:44pm Sat 12 Apr 14

gerry1962 says...

Replant the daffs on Cliffords Tower - the picture that's being used to draw people to this story is VERY old!
Replant the daffs on Cliffords Tower - the picture that's being used to draw people to this story is VERY old! gerry1962
  • Score: 2

8:44pm Sat 12 Apr 14

calmdownyork says...

As it's the 'Eye of the Ridings' I would propose to build the Yorkshire Parliament in the shape of a Yorkshire Pudding on it.
As it's the 'Eye of the Ridings' I would propose to build the Yorkshire Parliament in the shape of a Yorkshire Pudding on it. calmdownyork
  • Score: -3

8:57pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Older Sometimes Wiser says...

Non-corporate entity wrote:
Continued, to replace the lost car park spaces build a multistory where the empty office block stand just across the Foss river with a nice new bridge directly from the multistory to the new park area.
This has elements of a good idea, but rather than just have a multi-story car park, why not create a City Centre Hotel incorporating a new multi-storey car park where the empty office block stands ?
Change the space around Clifford s Tower into an inner city park with some trees , flowers, a fountain , some seating and maybe a select food outlet. There would have to be access from the hotel/car park on to the inner ring road, but one would create a calm space adjacent to the Foss and the Ouse and right in the centre of York. Potentially a real attraction to both residents and visitors.
" Think out of the box"
[quote][p][bold]Non-corporate entity[/bold] wrote: Continued, to replace the lost car park spaces build a multistory where the empty office block stand just across the Foss river with a nice new bridge directly from the multistory to the new park area.[/p][/quote]This has elements of a good idea, but rather than just have a multi-story car park, why not create a City Centre Hotel incorporating a new multi-storey car park where the empty office block stands ? Change the space around Clifford s Tower into an inner city park with some trees , flowers, a fountain , some seating and maybe a select food outlet. There would have to be access from the hotel/car park on to the inner ring road, but one would create a calm space adjacent to the Foss and the Ouse and right in the centre of York. Potentially a real attraction to both residents and visitors. " Think out of the box" Older Sometimes Wiser
  • Score: 2

10:06pm Sat 12 Apr 14

eeoodares says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Get rid of that car park and grass it over. Hold jousting displays etc. What a back-drop Cliffords Tower would be! The tourists would pour in!
Think it through! Who would pay for the horses, actors and support staff? If the spectators were to pay you would need arena style seating and a big fence to keep people out. Would a mini Wembley look better than a CarPark?
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: Get rid of that car park and grass it over. Hold jousting displays etc. What a back-drop Cliffords Tower would be! The tourists would pour in![/p][/quote]Think it through! Who would pay for the horses, actors and support staff? If the spectators were to pay you would need arena style seating and a big fence to keep people out. Would a mini Wembley look better than a CarPark? eeoodares
  • Score: -1

10:10pm Sat 12 Apr 14

eeoodares says...

If you want parking, why not and underground carpark? They manage it in ancient Cities all over Europe, why not in York!
If you want parking, why not and underground carpark? They manage it in ancient Cities all over Europe, why not in York! eeoodares
  • Score: 7

10:55pm Sat 12 Apr 14

oldgoat says...

An underground car park in theory, but given that Coppergate became a multi-year archaeology project, and is just up the road.....
An underground car park in theory, but given that Coppergate became a multi-year archaeology project, and is just up the road..... oldgoat
  • Score: 5

3:18am Sun 13 Apr 14

StarB74 says...

Ahhh...residents of York, what a wonderful problem to have! As someone who lives where NOTHING interesting has ever occurred, I think you're lucky.

If there's a car park around this structure then what a colossal shame and waste it is. Bring back the green space, replant those daffodils, turn it into a community garden, or dog park. I'm not sure how large the area is or if the structure is sound, but create an area where people want to gather. What a way to celebrate what you already have. I'm envious.
Ahhh...residents of York, what a wonderful problem to have! As someone who lives where NOTHING interesting has ever occurred, I think you're lucky. If there's a car park around this structure then what a colossal shame and waste it is. Bring back the green space, replant those daffodils, turn it into a community garden, or dog park. I'm not sure how large the area is or if the structure is sound, but create an area where people want to gather. What a way to celebrate what you already have. I'm envious. StarB74
  • Score: 45

6:14pm Sun 13 Apr 14

bloodaxe says...

RingoStarr wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
Get rid of that car park and grass it over. Hold jousting displays etc. What a back-drop Cliffords Tower would be! The tourists would pour in!
...but wouldn't be able to come as there would be nowhere to park their cars!
Walk ?
[quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: Get rid of that car park and grass it over. Hold jousting displays etc. What a back-drop Cliffords Tower would be! The tourists would pour in![/p][/quote]...but wouldn't be able to come as there would be nowhere to park their cars![/p][/quote]Walk ? bloodaxe
  • Score: 1

6:16pm Sun 13 Apr 14

bloodaxe says...

As this is a proposal by the Civic Trust and YLWHI does it qualify as a "vanity project" ?
As this is a proposal by the Civic Trust and YLWHI does it qualify as a "vanity project" ? bloodaxe
  • Score: -1

3:43am Mon 14 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

Get rid of the car park as it is no longer fit for purpose and is an eyesore... relocate car parking to a new multi-level car park on a site across the river which is currently occupied by an underused eyesore building known as Ryedale House which would be demolished to make way for the parking structure. This way we get rid of TWO eyesores, but keep the same level of parking provision (possibly even gaining a few spaces).... then develop the area around the bottom of the clifford tower into an open public park of sorts - perhaps with a space for falconry exhibits, or an Owlery.
Get rid of the car park as it is no longer fit for purpose and is an eyesore... relocate car parking to a new multi-level car park on a site across the river which is currently occupied by an underused eyesore building known as Ryedale House which would be demolished to make way for the parking structure. This way we get rid of TWO eyesores, but keep the same level of parking provision (possibly even gaining a few spaces).... then develop the area around the bottom of the clifford tower into an open public park of sorts - perhaps with a space for falconry exhibits, or an Owlery. Magicman!
  • Score: 2

7:36am Mon 14 Apr 14

Hereiamagainhaha says...

God, you lot do talk some cr@p......
God, you lot do talk some cr@p...... Hereiamagainhaha
  • Score: -1

9:54pm Mon 28 Apr 14

greenmonkey says...

As a minimum the area around Cliffords Tower itself should become parkland, flower borders, seats etc It would be possible to have a much smaller area of parking for disabled and staff/ courts accessed from the road up to the Museum. Parking on the other side of a foot/cycle bridge over the Foss would help to maintain the council income in the short term at least. A hotel maybe if needed but of course the Reynards Garage as an Air museum would provide a draw to the area too.
As a minimum the area around Cliffords Tower itself should become parkland, flower borders, seats etc It would be possible to have a much smaller area of parking for disabled and staff/ courts accessed from the road up to the Museum. Parking on the other side of a foot/cycle bridge over the Foss would help to maintain the council income in the short term at least. A hotel maybe if needed but of course the Reynards Garage as an Air museum would provide a draw to the area too. greenmonkey
  • Score: 1

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