£200,000 to be spent on clearer signposts in York

York Press: £200,000 to be spent on clearer signposts in York £200,000 to be spent on clearer signposts in York

CONSULTANTS will look at ways of improving York’s signposts through a £200,000 scheme as part of a wider city-centre facelift project.

The experts have been commissioned by City of York Council to examine signs in and around the city centre following a recent report which said visitors often had difficulties getting their bearings and York could be “confusing”.

Placemarque have been drafted in after working on projects in cities such as Derby, Oxford and Cambridge, for which they have won awards. The Labour-led council said the consultants will consider how signs can be improved around bus stops, taxi ranks, civic buildings and Newgate Market and the review will also help York meet accessibility guidelines.

The funding, which includes consultancy fees and the costs of the first phase of work, will come from the budget for the council’s £3.3 million Reinvigorate York scheme. A study will this month assess the good and bad points of York’s current signs, including those at York Station and Park&Ride sites. Organisations such as York Minster, York Civic Trust, Visit York, York Archaeological Trust and York Museums Trust will also be involved, and Placemarque will then design “prototype” signs and maps to go out to public consultation in the summer.

A 2012 access and mobility audit found information on signposts and boards in York did not meet guidance on size, font and colour. Coun Dave Merrett, cabinet member for planning, said York was linked by a “complex and fascinating network of streets and snickelways”, saying: “It’s important this study delivers options which help residents and visitors find their way around better, meet the latest accessibility standards and digital opportunities, and also respect and add to York’s character and distinctiveness.”

Reinvigorate York chairman Sir Ron Cooke said electronic signs could be considered.

But he said: “We must be careful not to impose more visually intrusive clutter on our heritage streets.”

Visit York head Kate McMullen said better signage would help ensure tourists can easily find attractions, venues and landmarks.

However, Coun Keith Aspden, who leads the council’s Liberal Democrats, said: “With front-line services being cut and council tax going up, residents will be shocked that Labour is choosing to spend £200,000 on a report into signposts in the city centre.

“Labour need to cut the vanity projects and focus spending on things which actually matter.”

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9:56am Sat 12 Apr 14

AMAJET says...

Can I assume that we are going to recycle some of the 100+ Lendal bridge signs thatare adorning our city?
Can I assume that we are going to recycle some of the 100+ Lendal bridge signs thatare adorning our city? AMAJET
  • Score: -27

10:06am Sat 12 Apr 14

oi oi savaloy says...

here we go again, why are we rewarding consultants with tax payers money in these austere times on signage that isn't needed??

there are plenty of tourist maps and guides out there for the discerning tourist to buy, like this one for instance..

http://www.amazon.co
.uk/Insight-Guides-G
reat-Breaks-York/dp/
1780052294/ref=sr_1_
1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qi
d=1397293229&sr=1-1&
keywords=guide+to+yo
rk+uk

Coun Dave Merrett, cabinet member for planning, said York was linked by a “complex and fascinating network of streets and snickelways”

as merret ever been to other cities?? York is far from complex

STOP WASTING COUNCIL TAX PAYERS MONEY ON THINGS THAT WE THE COUNCIL TAX PAYER DO NOT NEED!!
here we go again, why are we rewarding consultants with tax payers money in these austere times on signage that isn't needed?? there are plenty of tourist maps and guides out there for the discerning tourist to buy, like this one for instance.. http://www.amazon.co .uk/Insight-Guides-G reat-Breaks-York/dp/ 1780052294/ref=sr_1_ 1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qi d=1397293229&sr=1-1& keywords=guide+to+yo rk+uk Coun Dave Merrett, cabinet member for planning, said York was linked by a “complex and fascinating network of streets and snickelways” as merret ever been to other cities?? York is far from complex STOP WASTING COUNCIL TAX PAYERS MONEY ON THINGS THAT WE THE COUNCIL TAX PAYER DO NOT NEED!! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -7

10:11am Sat 12 Apr 14

DaveBruebeck says...

Yet more waste.
Yet more waste. DaveBruebeck
  • Score: -11

10:19am Sat 12 Apr 14

marvell says...

Labour's stupidity is beyond comprehension
Labour's stupidity is beyond comprehension marvell
  • Score: -7

10:21am Sat 12 Apr 14

Oaklands Resident says...

Dear oh dear.

This just isn't a priority at a time when local public services standards across the City are falling.

People use Google maps on mobile devices these days to find their way round.
Dear oh dear. This just isn't a priority at a time when local public services standards across the City are falling. People use Google maps on mobile devices these days to find their way round. Oaklands Resident
  • Score: -15

10:23am Sat 12 Apr 14

RingoStarr says...

Got it! What about some huge signs as you enter the City saying:
'BEWARE OF CLLR MERRETT'
Got it! What about some huge signs as you enter the City saying: 'BEWARE OF CLLR MERRETT' RingoStarr
  • Score: -49

10:27am Sat 12 Apr 14

notmyrealname says...

the tourists just ask someone or use their Smart Phones - waste of money
the tourists just ask someone or use their Smart Phones - waste of money notmyrealname
  • Score: -47

10:28am Sat 12 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Placemarque have been drafted in after working on projects in cities such as Derby, Oxford and Cambridge, for which they have won awards.

Send a quality employee to Derby, Oxford and Cambridge, see what they have done use a camera and steal the best bit's.
Placemarque have been drafted in after working on projects in cities such as Derby, Oxford and Cambridge, for which they have won awards. Send a quality employee to Derby, Oxford and Cambridge, see what they have done use a camera and steal the best bit's. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -35

10:49am Sat 12 Apr 14

sheps lad says...

Having lived in York for 70+ years I have never been lost yet!
Having lived in York for 70+ years I have never been lost yet! sheps lad
  • Score: -39

11:04am Sat 12 Apr 14

acomblass says...

Ye gods! More money being spent on the city centre whilst community centres are having budgets slashed, services for the vulnerable are being hacked, libraries are being run by volunteers - I could go on! And don't tell me that this is the fault of the government!
Ye gods! More money being spent on the city centre whilst community centres are having budgets slashed, services for the vulnerable are being hacked, libraries are being run by volunteers - I could go on! And don't tell me that this is the fault of the government! acomblass
  • Score: -49

11:09am Sat 12 Apr 14

Major Bloodnok says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
here we go again, why are we rewarding consultants with tax payers money in these austere times on signage that isn't needed??

there are plenty of tourist maps and guides out there for the discerning tourist to buy, like this one for instance..

http://www.amazon.co

.uk/Insight-Guides-G

reat-Breaks-York/dp/

1780052294/ref=sr_1_

1?s=books&ie=UTF
8&qi
d=1397293229&sr=
1-1&
keywords=guide+to+yo

rk+uk

Coun Dave Merrett, cabinet member for planning, said York was linked by a “complex and fascinating network of streets and snickelways”

as merret ever been to other cities?? York is far from complex

STOP WASTING COUNCIL TAX PAYERS MONEY ON THINGS THAT WE THE COUNCIL TAX PAYER DO NOT NEED!!
The only thing complex in York is Alexander & Merrett
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: here we go again, why are we rewarding consultants with tax payers money in these austere times on signage that isn't needed?? there are plenty of tourist maps and guides out there for the discerning tourist to buy, like this one for instance.. http://www.amazon.co .uk/Insight-Guides-G reat-Breaks-York/dp/ 1780052294/ref=sr_1_ 1?s=books&ie=UTF 8&qi d=1397293229&sr= 1-1& keywords=guide+to+yo rk+uk Coun Dave Merrett, cabinet member for planning, said York was linked by a “complex and fascinating network of streets and snickelways” as merret ever been to other cities?? York is far from complex STOP WASTING COUNCIL TAX PAYERS MONEY ON THINGS THAT WE THE COUNCIL TAX PAYER DO NOT NEED!![/p][/quote]The only thing complex in York is Alexander & Merrett Major Bloodnok
  • Score: -50

11:42am Sat 12 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

So along with the £235,000 for pointless 20mph signs to clutter up the streets in the North of York (see report in press) that makes a total of £435,000 of our hard earned money spent in one evening by Mr Merrett. Better still £200.000 appears to be being spent on a bit of paper which will tell us what lettering to use on signs. I had feeling he would exact his revenge on the residents of York for not agreeing to drive miles around all day and spend hours in traffic queues. By the way there is a spare electronic sign sitting near the bar walls just near Lendal Bridge that you could use right now.
So along with the £235,000 for pointless 20mph signs to clutter up the streets in the North of York (see report in press) that makes a total of £435,000 of our hard earned money spent in one evening by Mr Merrett. Better still £200.000 appears to be being spent on a bit of paper which will tell us what lettering to use on signs. I had feeling he would exact his revenge on the residents of York for not agreeing to drive miles around all day and spend hours in traffic queues. By the way there is a spare electronic sign sitting near the bar walls just near Lendal Bridge that you could use right now. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -38

12:06pm Sat 12 Apr 14

The OX says...

This Council needs to go, NOW and fast
This Council needs to go, NOW and fast The OX
  • Score: -28

12:32pm Sat 12 Apr 14

dc1926 says...

The OX says...

This Council needs to go, NOW and fast

Before we are bankrupt!
The OX says... This Council needs to go, NOW and fast Before we are bankrupt! dc1926
  • Score: -24

12:49pm Sat 12 Apr 14

roy_batty says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
So along with the £235,000 for pointless 20mph signs to clutter up the streets in the North of York (see report in press) that makes a total of £435,000 of our hard earned money spent in one evening by Mr Merrett. Better still £200.000 appears to be being spent on a bit of paper which will tell us what lettering to use on signs. I had feeling he would exact his revenge on the residents of York for not agreeing to drive miles around all day and spend hours in traffic queues. By the way there is a spare electronic sign sitting near the bar walls just near Lendal Bridge that you could use right now.
The £235,000 is for the next stage, don't forget the previous stages that have already amounted to £600,000.

This beggars belief , we all have smartphones, iPads , there's free wifi just about everywhere in the city centre, this is just another waste of money to add to the vast amounts this council as already wasted, I like to travel around and do a few city breaks and find the smartphone and a 'rough guide' book invaluable, and as stated in a previous post, York is far from complex, Merrett needs to go!
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: So along with the £235,000 for pointless 20mph signs to clutter up the streets in the North of York (see report in press) that makes a total of £435,000 of our hard earned money spent in one evening by Mr Merrett. Better still £200.000 appears to be being spent on a bit of paper which will tell us what lettering to use on signs. I had feeling he would exact his revenge on the residents of York for not agreeing to drive miles around all day and spend hours in traffic queues. By the way there is a spare electronic sign sitting near the bar walls just near Lendal Bridge that you could use right now.[/p][/quote]The £235,000 is for the next stage, don't forget the previous stages that have already amounted to £600,000. This beggars belief , we all have smartphones, iPads , there's free wifi just about everywhere in the city centre, this is just another waste of money to add to the vast amounts this council as already wasted, I like to travel around and do a few city breaks and find the smartphone and a 'rough guide' book invaluable, and as stated in a previous post, York is far from complex, Merrett needs to go! roy_batty
  • Score: -19

1:18pm Sat 12 Apr 14

buzzy_bee says...

Is their objective to think of ways to waste taxpayers' money? If so, top marks! If not, please resign because York doesn't have any money left.
Is their objective to think of ways to waste taxpayers' money? If so, top marks! If not, please resign because York doesn't have any money left. buzzy_bee
  • Score: -8

1:26pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bolero says...

---> THIS WAY TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM.
---> THIS WAY TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM. bolero
  • Score: -22

1:36pm Sat 12 Apr 14

gjh says...

The OX wrote:
This Council needs to go, NOW and fast
Not too fast though, there are penalties for exceeding the 20mph limit.
[quote][p][bold]The OX[/bold] wrote: This Council needs to go, NOW and fast[/p][/quote]Not too fast though, there are penalties for exceeding the 20mph limit. gjh
  • Score: -7

2:36pm Sat 12 Apr 14

wimtroch says...

Another Nasty Labour waste of money. Did my council tax go up for this? And people want me to take Labour seriously? Seriously? What a joke. Labour could not run a whelk stall, Get Labour out, send them to their mates in Cuba, see what is really like to live under Socialism
Another Nasty Labour waste of money. Did my council tax go up for this? And people want me to take Labour seriously? Seriously? What a joke. Labour could not run a whelk stall, Get Labour out, send them to their mates in Cuba, see what is really like to live under Socialism wimtroch
  • Score: -56

2:43pm Sat 12 Apr 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

The Mark-Down Mongrels have been busy on all council stories today.

Well, lets be clear, so long as this council acts irresponsibly they are going to have to employ these same tactics, which represents failure on their part.

What is most amusing is they are the only ones who believe their adjusted nonsense scores, funny (LOL).

Stay busy, Woof, Woof.
The Mark-Down Mongrels have been busy on all council stories today. Well, lets be clear, so long as this council acts irresponsibly they are going to have to employ these same tactics, which represents failure on their part. What is most amusing is they are the only ones who believe their adjusted nonsense scores, funny (LOL). Stay busy, Woof, Woof. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -55

2:51pm Sat 12 Apr 14

nvjames says...

sheps lad wrote:
Having lived in York for 70+ years I have never been lost yet!
Maybe that's because you live here and are not a tourist
[quote][p][bold]sheps lad[/bold] wrote: Having lived in York for 70+ years I have never been lost yet![/p][/quote]Maybe that's because you live here and are not a tourist nvjames
  • Score: 31

2:53pm Sat 12 Apr 14

nvjames says...

People here have no idea how much the tourism industry brings to York's economy, and how few of us with have jobs without it.
People here have no idea how much the tourism industry brings to York's economy, and how few of us with have jobs without it. nvjames
  • Score: 39

3:34pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bolero says...

bolero wrote:
---> THIS WAY TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM.
I thought that would get you going you silly vote rigger. It doesn't make any difference though. --> THIS WAY TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: ---> THIS WAY TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM.[/p][/quote]I thought that would get you going you silly vote rigger. It doesn't make any difference though. --> THIS WAY TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM. bolero
  • Score: -103

4:25pm Sat 12 Apr 14

Waspish1 says...

HOW MUCH !!!!!
HOW MUCH !!!!! Waspish1
  • Score: -143

4:49pm Sat 12 Apr 14

ouseswimmer says...

Is there really any need for signposts these days? Sat Navs can inform drivers of any restrictions, speeds etc. We are about to have a future where all signposts can be removed and York Council are spending £200,000 on consultants!
Is there really any need for signposts these days? Sat Navs can inform drivers of any restrictions, speeds etc. We are about to have a future where all signposts can be removed and York Council are spending £200,000 on consultants! ouseswimmer
  • Score: -81

6:43pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bolero says...

--> ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM.
--> ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM. bolero
  • Score: -37

8:44pm Sat 12 Apr 14

bolero says...

bolero wrote:
--> ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM.
Aw! Only -38. Must do better you silly rigger.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: --> ALL ROADS LEAD TO THE WEST OFFICES ASYLUM.[/p][/quote]Aw! Only -38. Must do better you silly rigger. bolero
  • Score: -61

2:06am Sun 13 Apr 14

York1900 says...

ouseswimmer wrote:
Is there really any need for signposts these days? Sat Navs can inform drivers of any restrictions, speeds etc. We are about to have a future where all signposts can be removed and York Council are spending £200,000 on consultants!
Sat Navs are only as good as the software and the satellites that they get there signals from
They are not the best way to navigate they can send you down the wrong way down streets and they do not all ways send you the quickest route or best route
[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: Is there really any need for signposts these days? Sat Navs can inform drivers of any restrictions, speeds etc. We are about to have a future where all signposts can be removed and York Council are spending £200,000 on consultants![/p][/quote]Sat Navs are only as good as the software and the satellites that they get there signals from They are not the best way to navigate they can send you down the wrong way down streets and they do not all ways send you the quickest route or best route York1900
  • Score: -73

6:55am Sun 13 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

gjh wrote:
The OX wrote:
This Council needs to go, NOW and fast
Not too fast though, there are penalties for exceeding the 20mph limit.
Yes but the councillors know that it's not enforceable so the quicker they go the better!
[quote][p][bold]gjh[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The OX[/bold] wrote: This Council needs to go, NOW and fast[/p][/quote]Not too fast though, there are penalties for exceeding the 20mph limit.[/p][/quote]Yes but the councillors know that it's not enforceable so the quicker they go the better! Igiveinthen
  • Score: -54

7:12am Sun 13 Apr 14

Igiveinthen says...

York1900 wrote:
ouseswimmer wrote:
Is there really any need for signposts these days? Sat Navs can inform drivers of any restrictions, speeds etc. We are about to have a future where all signposts can be removed and York Council are spending £200,000 on consultants!
Sat Navs are only as good as the software and the satellites that they get there signals from
They are not the best way to navigate they can send you down the wrong way down streets and they do not all ways send you the quickest route or best route
York1900 said that...........Sat Navs are only as good as the software and the satellites that they get there signals from. They are not the best way to navigate they can send you down the wrong way down streets and they do not all ways send you the quickest route or best route........I assume you are only talking about driving and not walking around a city? Do you own a sat nav? If you do you, you will know that there are 'settings' you can enable for the 'quickest route' 'shortest route' etc. etc., so for driving they are an invaluable aid to driving safety - you can't read a map and drive at the same time, although some do try!!!
[quote][p][bold]York1900[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: Is there really any need for signposts these days? Sat Navs can inform drivers of any restrictions, speeds etc. We are about to have a future where all signposts can be removed and York Council are spending £200,000 on consultants![/p][/quote]Sat Navs are only as good as the software and the satellites that they get there signals from They are not the best way to navigate they can send you down the wrong way down streets and they do not all ways send you the quickest route or best route[/p][/quote]York1900 said that...........Sat Navs are only as good as the software and the satellites that they get there signals from. They are not the best way to navigate they can send you down the wrong way down streets and they do not all ways send you the quickest route or best route........I assume you are only talking about driving and not walking around a city? Do you own a sat nav? If you do you, you will know that there are 'settings' you can enable for the 'quickest route' 'shortest route' etc. etc., so for driving they are an invaluable aid to driving safety - you can't read a map and drive at the same time, although some do try!!! Igiveinthen
  • Score: -30

2:40pm Sun 13 Apr 14

mmarshal says...

Please tell me that Placemarque does not include the same quality of experts who advised on the signposting for the Lendal Folly.
Please tell me that Placemarque does not include the same quality of experts who advised on the signposting for the Lendal Folly. mmarshal
  • Score: -28

8:09pm Sun 13 Apr 14

MouseHouse says...

Less sign posts please. More street names. As others have said many use technology to find the way so street names are all they really need.

There are far to many posts put up with one or two signs on them, It really doesn't need any consultants to advise, just ask a few people on the streets and you'll get remarkable similar answers to those the over priced consultants will give you.
Less sign posts please. More street names. As others have said many use technology to find the way so street names are all they really need. There are far to many posts put up with one or two signs on them, It really doesn't need any consultants to advise, just ask a few people on the streets and you'll get remarkable similar answers to those the over priced consultants will give you. MouseHouse
  • Score: -1

9:07pm Sun 13 Apr 14

Waspish1 says...

Waspish1 wrote:
HOW MUCH !!!!!
Wow !,
-141 for a two word comment, I must have hit a raw spot with someone.
[quote][p][bold]Waspish1[/bold] wrote: HOW MUCH !!!!![/p][/quote]Wow !, -141 for a two word comment, I must have hit a raw spot with someone. Waspish1
  • Score: -1

3:49am Mon 14 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

Well considering some of the 'wayfinder' type signs for tourists in York point to a blue-coloured Park and Ride bus, of which a Blue Line P&R has never existed, then perhaps some betetr signs has been needed for a while.
Well considering some of the 'wayfinder' type signs for tourists in York point to a blue-coloured Park and Ride bus, of which a Blue Line P&R has never existed, then perhaps some betetr signs has been needed for a while. Magicman!
  • Score: 1

10:15am Mon 14 Apr 14

Mullarkian says...

Yet more waste!
And this on top of the pointles signs on all approach roads that tell you 'Don't drivre tired' & 'Think! wear a seatbelt'.
The latter I think cost £100,00 a pop.
Yet more waste! And this on top of the pointles signs on all approach roads that tell you 'Don't drivre tired' & 'Think! wear a seatbelt'. The latter I think cost £100,00 a pop. Mullarkian
  • Score: -1

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