MP's campaign to end NHS postcode lottery

ENDING THE LOTTERY: Hugh Bayley

ENDING THE LOTTERY: Hugh Bayley

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A YORK MP has launched a parliamentary bid to end the postcode lottery of unequal NHS care across the country.

Labour MP Hugh Bayley has introduced a bill which - if it became law - would make sure that across the UK patients would get the same quality of treatment, wherever they live.

He said: "The postcode lottery is unfair. It contradicts the founding principles of the NHS. We all pay national insurance and taxes on the same terms, no matter where we live, and we all have a right to NHS treatment on equal terms. Each time the NHS says no to a patient a little more public confidence in the NHS drains away. This has to change, and quickly."

Mr Bayley, who used to work as a health economist at the University of York, said brought the bill into Parliament under the '10 minute rule' on Tuesday, after seeing a huge increase in complaints about treatment being denied by the NHS.

Talking to the House of Commons about his bill, Mr Bayley spoke of York woman Zoe Bounds, who at 36 was refused a double mastectomy to reduce the risk of her breast cancer spreading. Having recovered from ovarian cancer as a teenager Zoe then developed breast cancer and doctors had recommended a mastectomy to stop the disease spreading. On appeal, NHS bosses agreed to fund the surgery, but Mr Bayley said he wants to make stop the situation happening.

Two years ago, Mr Bayley surveyed all the Primary Care Trusts in England to find out how often they refused to pay for treatments.

He added: “The survey revealed enormous variation in NHS provision across the country. Infertile couples in York have no access to assisted conception services, but it remains available free on the NHS elsewhere. Gastric band surgery is generally available to people whose body mass index is 40 or more, but in York you have to be much more overweight, with a BMI over 50, to get this operation. York’s NHS budget is lower per person than in neighbouring health areas, which makes a bad situation worse."

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10:51am Fri 11 Apr 14

markymmark says...

Political Posturing !
Political Posturing ! markymmark
  • Score: -19

11:21am Fri 11 Apr 14

Just zis guy, you know? says...

markymmark wrote:
Political Posturing !
Did you honestly expect any different?! The man is a waste of space.
[quote][p][bold]markymmark[/bold] wrote: Political Posturing ![/p][/quote]Did you honestly expect any different?! The man is a waste of space. Just zis guy, you know?
  • Score: -20

12:20pm Fri 11 Apr 14

perplexed says...

markymmark wrote:
Political Posturing !
It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France.


Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS.

No posturing , just people's lives!
[quote][p][bold]markymmark[/bold] wrote: Political Posturing ![/p][/quote]It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France. Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS. No posturing , just people's lives! perplexed
  • Score: 6

2:07pm Fri 11 Apr 14

buzzy_bee says...

It's the general election in just over a year isn't it?

Why didn't he campaign to end the NHS postcode lottery during the 13 years when Labour were in Government?

Vote for an independent this year.
It's the general election in just over a year isn't it? Why didn't he campaign to end the NHS postcode lottery during the 13 years when Labour were in Government? Vote for an independent this year. buzzy_bee
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2:48pm Fri 11 Apr 14

markymmark says...

perplexed wrote:
markymmark wrote:
Political Posturing !
It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France.


Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS.

No posturing , just people's lives!
When a politician bangs a drum - knowing full well that it isn't going to happen , I call that posturing !
[quote][p][bold]perplexed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markymmark[/bold] wrote: Political Posturing ![/p][/quote]It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France. Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS. No posturing , just people's lives![/p][/quote]When a politician bangs a drum - knowing full well that it isn't going to happen , I call that posturing ! markymmark
  • Score: -14

5:57pm Fri 11 Apr 14

perplexed says...

markymmark wrote:
perplexed wrote:
markymmark wrote:
Political Posturing !
It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France.


Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS.

No posturing , just people's lives!
When a politician bangs a drum - knowing full well that it isn't going to happen , I call that posturing !
"When a politician bangs a drum - knowing full well that it isn't going to happen" Perhaps you should address your comments to the Coalition, for with their support it could happen. Unless of course you support the post code lottery or just dislike Hugh Bailey. The evidence clearly suggest things have got much worse since the Reforms of April 2013 . The trouble is those waiting for treatment do not have the time to indulge in such petty point scoring!
[quote][p][bold]markymmark[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perplexed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markymmark[/bold] wrote: Political Posturing ![/p][/quote]It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France. Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS. No posturing , just people's lives![/p][/quote]When a politician bangs a drum - knowing full well that it isn't going to happen , I call that posturing ![/p][/quote]"When a politician bangs a drum - knowing full well that it isn't going to happen" Perhaps you should address your comments to the Coalition, for with their support it could happen. Unless of course you support the post code lottery or just dislike Hugh Bailey. The evidence clearly suggest things have got much worse since the Reforms of April 2013 . The trouble is those waiting for treatment do not have the time to indulge in such petty point scoring! perplexed
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9:39pm Fri 11 Apr 14

roy_batty says...

perplexed wrote:
markymmark wrote:
Political Posturing !
It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France.


Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS.

No posturing , just people's lives!
Can i ask where you get your information from?

My wife was diagnosed with cancer last August, everything was done to a timetable perfectly, within 2 weeks we saw an Oncologist at York district, who gave us the choice of treatment in York or St James, leeds, we opted for Leeds as they said that would be the better. We saw the specialist in leeds who then said they would operate on my wife within the next 28 days.
They then said results from op would be within 6 weeks, results were about 4 weeks but showed the cancer had spread, so they then stated that they need to operate again and that was within the 28 days. Luckily that op was successful and the cancer was removed, but we still go through to St James every 3 months for check up's, back there next week as it is. my wife's uncle has prostrate cancer and he also is getting wonderful treatment.
Further to this, i know of 3 other people that i work with who's wife's have cancer and all are getting wonderful treatment through the N.H.S. , and one other guy that i work with who's 52 year old brother also as prostrate cancer, also getting good care.
[quote][p][bold]perplexed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markymmark[/bold] wrote: Political Posturing ![/p][/quote]It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France. Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS. No posturing , just people's lives![/p][/quote]Can i ask where you get your information from? My wife was diagnosed with cancer last August, everything was done to a timetable perfectly, within 2 weeks we saw an Oncologist at York district, who gave us the choice of treatment in York or St James, leeds, we opted for Leeds as they said that would be the better. We saw the specialist in leeds who then said they would operate on my wife within the next 28 days. They then said results from op would be within 6 weeks, results were about 4 weeks but showed the cancer had spread, so they then stated that they need to operate again and that was within the 28 days. Luckily that op was successful and the cancer was removed, but we still go through to St James every 3 months for check up's, back there next week as it is. my wife's uncle has prostrate cancer and he also is getting wonderful treatment. Further to this, i know of 3 other people that i work with who's wife's have cancer and all are getting wonderful treatment through the N.H.S. , and one other guy that i work with who's 52 year old brother also as prostrate cancer, also getting good care. roy_batty
  • Score: 1

10:13pm Fri 11 Apr 14

perplexed says...

roy_batty wrote:
perplexed wrote:
markymmark wrote:
Political Posturing !
It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France.


Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS.

No posturing , just people's lives!
Can i ask where you get your information from?

My wife was diagnosed with cancer last August, everything was done to a timetable perfectly, within 2 weeks we saw an Oncologist at York district, who gave us the choice of treatment in York or St James, leeds, we opted for Leeds as they said that would be the better. We saw the specialist in leeds who then said they would operate on my wife within the next 28 days.
They then said results from op would be within 6 weeks, results were about 4 weeks but showed the cancer had spread, so they then stated that they need to operate again and that was within the 28 days. Luckily that op was successful and the cancer was removed, but we still go through to St James every 3 months for check up's, back there next week as it is. my wife's uncle has prostrate cancer and he also is getting wonderful treatment.
Further to this, i know of 3 other people that i work with who's wife's have cancer and all are getting wonderful treatment through the N.H.S. , and one other guy that i work with who's 52 year old brother also as prostrate cancer, also getting good care.
Good to hear that your wife has received good care. Sadly it is far from a universal experience. In 2012 Daviid Cameron promised a £15million fund to ensure patients would have access to better treatment by April 2013. Only 3 months later Health Minister Anna Soubry admitted the deadline has not been met and that cancer patients may have to wait up to six more months before all centres can make good on the PM’s pledge.

Regarding the cut in targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers the consultants are Nick Van As, consultant clinical oncologist at the Royal Marsden cancer centre, and brain surgeon Andras Kemeny, president of the British Radiology Society. Both doctors reluctantly went on the record in Dec 2013 to denounce the "unmitigated failure" of health care funding under NHS England which was established in April to improve outcomes for patients.

Furthermore only last month the Sunday Times discovered that some patients were waiting more than 10 times longer than others for certain diagnostic tests. The Mail also reported at the end of 2013 that some patients over 75 are six times more likely to have operations to remove cancer than those living in other areas where doctors have written them off because of their dates of birth.

I wish you and yours the very best Roy and the treatment is successful.
[quote][p][bold]roy_batty[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]perplexed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]markymmark[/bold] wrote: Political Posturing ![/p][/quote]It is just as well Cameron was not 'posturing' when he promised to end the cancer postcode lottery and yet according to two of the country's leading specialists hundred's of cancer patients are being denied vital treatment under the Coalition's NHS shake-up following the health service reorganisation last April .The number of patients for example granted pioneering targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers of the prostate, liver, brain, kidney, pancreas and spine among others has been dramatically cut .The Royal Marsden by Dec 2013 was given the go-ahead to treat just four patients, compared with hundreds a year under the old system. Just 600 a year get the treatment in this country - far fewer than the 1,000 patients treated at just one centre in Lille, France. Likewise in a recent survey of GP's 71% believed local rationing of treatments or services in their area had increased since April 2013, when most of the NHS reforms came into force. They reported increasing difficulty accessing community nursing care, counselling services and treatments such as cataract surgery and IVF and that cuts to local services were damaging patient care. This follows a series of reports in the past year on the extent of care rationing at a time of increasing financial pressure on the NHS. No posturing , just people's lives![/p][/quote]Can i ask where you get your information from? My wife was diagnosed with cancer last August, everything was done to a timetable perfectly, within 2 weeks we saw an Oncologist at York district, who gave us the choice of treatment in York or St James, leeds, we opted for Leeds as they said that would be the better. We saw the specialist in leeds who then said they would operate on my wife within the next 28 days. They then said results from op would be within 6 weeks, results were about 4 weeks but showed the cancer had spread, so they then stated that they need to operate again and that was within the 28 days. Luckily that op was successful and the cancer was removed, but we still go through to St James every 3 months for check up's, back there next week as it is. my wife's uncle has prostrate cancer and he also is getting wonderful treatment. Further to this, i know of 3 other people that i work with who's wife's have cancer and all are getting wonderful treatment through the N.H.S. , and one other guy that i work with who's 52 year old brother also as prostrate cancer, also getting good care.[/p][/quote]Good to hear that your wife has received good care. Sadly it is far from a universal experience. In 2012 Daviid Cameron promised a £15million fund to ensure patients would have access to better treatment by April 2013. Only 3 months later Health Minister Anna Soubry admitted the deadline has not been met and that cancer patients may have to wait up to six more months before all centres can make good on the PM’s pledge. Regarding the cut in targeted radiotherapy, used to treat cancers the consultants are Nick Van As, consultant clinical oncologist at the Royal Marsden cancer centre, and brain surgeon Andras Kemeny, president of the British Radiology Society. Both doctors reluctantly went on the record in Dec 2013 to denounce the "unmitigated failure" of health care funding under NHS England which was established in April to improve outcomes for patients. Furthermore only last month the Sunday Times discovered that some patients were waiting more than 10 times longer than others for certain diagnostic tests. The Mail also reported at the end of 2013 that some patients over 75 are six times more likely to have operations to remove cancer than those living in other areas where doctors have written them off because of their dates of birth. I wish you and yours the very best Roy and the treatment is successful. perplexed
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