VIDEO & PICS: e-cigarette explodes and sets fire to barmaid

VIDEO & PICS: e-cigarette explodes and sets fire to barmaid

The moment the e-cigarette exploded and rocketed towards Laura Baty

The e-cigarette hits Laura Baty's dress

Laura Baty with the dress that was set on fire

The exploded e-cigarette

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This is the moment a barmaid narrowly escaped when an e-cigarette exploded in flames in a packed pub and rocketed towards her.

Shocked Laura Baty, 18, was serving a customer when she heard a huge bang and saw the device shoot in her direction.

The flames singed her arms and set her dress on fire as she tried to get out of the way.

The sizzling e-cig - which had been on charge behind the bar - then landed on the floor and scorched the vinyl tiles before burning itself out.

Part of it also hit at customer at the Buck Inn Hotel in Richmond, North Yorkshire, and left him with a red mark in his stomach.

Laura said: "I was about to give somebody their change and I heard the bang. I could see the fire coming at me and I felt the heat as I ran away.

"I started crying hysterically and my arm was all black. My dress caught on fire as I ran away and I just didn't know what was happening.

"A customer came and took me in to the bathroom to calm me down. She washed down my arm which was all black and I still didn't know what had happened."

Laura, who has worked at the pub for nearly two years, was badly shaken by the explosion on Saturday.

She added: "I thought the fuse-box had blown up or a firework had gone off.

Everybody was just so shocked."

The e-cigarette belonged to fellow barman Stewart Paterson, 21, who has been trying to quit smoking since December last year.

He said: "I put the e-cigarette on charge in my iPad charger, which I have done countless times before.

"I heard a huge bang that sounded like a firework. I turned around to see a ball of fire weaving about.

"I saw Laura running away and thought somebody had thrown a firework.

"A punter pointed to the e-cigarette that I had been charging and it was still smoking. It had burnt through the vinyl floor as well.

"When the battery exploded the end shot across the room and hit one punter in the stomach and left him with a red mark.

"I just keep thinking what if this had happened while I was charging it at home. I might have been out and the damage could have been horrendous.

"When I looked back at the footage I saw how close the fireball came to Laura's head. If she was stood a couple of inches to the right she could have been badly hurt."

Stewart, a student, added: "It was a full pub at the time and we had a local football team in celebrating the end of season. It is lucky that no one else was badly hurt."

Alyson Down, Community Safety Officer at North Yorkshire Fire and Rescue, said: "What would have happened if this occurred when no one was about?

"The advice we give is to make sure you are nearby if you are charging up any product that requires charging from the mains.

"A lot of people leave them unattended, but you should never do this.

"I used to charge my phone up overnight, but now I charge it before I fall asleep in case something like what happened at The Buck in Richmond.

"We strongly recommend people to not leave devices that are charging up unattended."

Richmond Fire Officer and Crew Manager Steve Bake, added: "It's very concerning.

"If that had happened in someone's house, it could have set curtains or furniture ablaze so there is a clearly a big risk here. Especially if someone has no smoke detectors.

"Although it made a big bang which would wake you up, you might think nothing of it and fall asleep again."

A spokeswoman for the battery manufacturer said: "We provide clear information on websites and in electronic cigarette starter kits that explain how our batteries should be charged and cared for.

"We cannot comment on the circumstance of this particular instance or make any comment on the provenance of this battery. However, it does not appear that a dedicated electronic cigarette charger was used.

"A number of independent organisations, including the fire service, have reiterated warnings that charging lithium batteries incorrectly and failing to take necessary care of these devices can lead to catastrophic failure."

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11:53am Tue 8 Apr 14

Overproof says...

Essentially due to using the incorrect charger.

A 2amp, 5 volt I-pad charger is unsuitable to recharge a battery that is designed to be charged with a 420 milli amp, 4.2v supply.

You should only use the charger that is supplied with the e-cig, and if you need a mains adapter, then you should obtain one that is for an e-cig usb charger.
Essentially due to using the incorrect charger. A 2amp, 5 volt I-pad charger is unsuitable to recharge a battery that is designed to be charged with a 420 milli amp, 4.2v supply. You should only use the charger that is supplied with the e-cig, and if you need a mains adapter, then you should obtain one that is for an e-cig usb charger. Overproof
  • Score: 53

12:01pm Tue 8 Apr 14

MouseHouse says...

Never plug your personal electronic kit into a socket at work. Who is now liable for any costs, the 21 year old owner of the e-cig or the owner of the pub? The member of staff has possibly put himself into a very tricky position.

Best wishes to those hurt.
Never plug your personal electronic kit into a socket at work. Who is now liable for any costs, the 21 year old owner of the e-cig or the owner of the pub? The member of staff has possibly put himself into a very tricky position. Best wishes to those hurt. MouseHouse
  • Score: 17

12:06pm Tue 8 Apr 14

lezyork1966 says...

omg lets get ready for all those who call lipo batteries bombs but still carry a cellphone....


for you who dont understand lipo batteries, the go pop if over or undercharged. thats it. its no harder to understand than that. Oh and if you crush/stab them.

sorry mate its not the charging amps that poofs them its the voltage. I charge my 5amp lipo packs at upto 10amps all the time. I also discharge them at like 35 amps. stop the charging totally at 4.10/4.15 all is fine, even go to 4.20, but if you have a broken charger and start taking them to 5 or above.. run and hide...

Also never take them down below 2.8, or they cant get a bit unstable...
omg lets get ready for all those who call lipo batteries bombs but still carry a cellphone.... for you who dont understand lipo batteries, the go pop if over or undercharged. thats it. its no harder to understand than that. Oh and if you crush/stab them. sorry mate its not the charging amps that poofs them its the voltage. I charge my 5amp lipo packs at upto 10amps all the time. I also discharge them at like 35 amps. stop the charging totally at 4.10/4.15 all is fine, even go to 4.20, but if you have a broken charger and start taking them to 5 or above.. run and hide... Also never take them down below 2.8, or they cant get a bit unstable... lezyork1966
  • Score: -11

12:17pm Tue 8 Apr 14

yorkandproud says...

Why not just pack in smoking you fools.
Why not just pack in smoking you fools. yorkandproud
  • Score: -9

12:31pm Tue 8 Apr 14

MrsHoney says...

lezyork1966 wrote:
omg lets get ready for all those who call lipo batteries bombs but still carry a cellphone....


for you who dont understand lipo batteries, the go pop if over or undercharged. thats it. its no harder to understand than that. Oh and if you crush/stab them.

sorry mate its not the charging amps that poofs them its the voltage. I charge my 5amp lipo packs at upto 10amps all the time. I also discharge them at like 35 amps. stop the charging totally at 4.10/4.15 all is fine, even go to 4.20, but if you have a broken charger and start taking them to 5 or above.. run and hide...

Also never take them down below 2.8, or they cant get a bit unstable...
Easier to understand than your post?!
[quote][p][bold]lezyork1966[/bold] wrote: omg lets get ready for all those who call lipo batteries bombs but still carry a cellphone.... for you who dont understand lipo batteries, the go pop if over or undercharged. thats it. its no harder to understand than that. Oh and if you crush/stab them. sorry mate its not the charging amps that poofs them its the voltage. I charge my 5amp lipo packs at upto 10amps all the time. I also discharge them at like 35 amps. stop the charging totally at 4.10/4.15 all is fine, even go to 4.20, but if you have a broken charger and start taking them to 5 or above.. run and hide... Also never take them down below 2.8, or they cant get a bit unstable...[/p][/quote]Easier to understand than your post?! MrsHoney
  • Score: 12

12:38pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Fat Harry says...

lezyork1966 wrote:
omg lets get ready for all those who call lipo batteries bombs but still carry a cellphone.... for you who dont understand lipo batteries, the go pop if over or undercharged. thats it. its no harder to understand than that. Oh and if you crush/stab them. sorry mate its not the charging amps that poofs them its the voltage. I charge my 5amp lipo packs at upto 10amps all the time. I also discharge them at like 35 amps. stop the charging totally at 4.10/4.15 all is fine, even go to 4.20, but if you have a broken charger and start taking them to 5 or above.. run and hide... Also never take them down below 2.8, or they cant get a bit unstable...
Clear as mud.
[quote][p][bold]lezyork1966[/bold] wrote: omg lets get ready for all those who call lipo batteries bombs but still carry a cellphone.... for you who dont understand lipo batteries, the go pop if over or undercharged. thats it. its no harder to understand than that. Oh and if you crush/stab them. sorry mate its not the charging amps that poofs them its the voltage. I charge my 5amp lipo packs at upto 10amps all the time. I also discharge them at like 35 amps. stop the charging totally at 4.10/4.15 all is fine, even go to 4.20, but if you have a broken charger and start taking them to 5 or above.. run and hide... Also never take them down below 2.8, or they cant get a bit unstable...[/p][/quote]Clear as mud. Fat Harry
  • Score: 14

12:49pm Tue 8 Apr 14

ak7274 says...

lezyork1966 How about not showing off your great knowledge of all things electrical and advising using the correct charger for the equipment?
lezyork1966 How about not showing off your great knowledge of all things electrical and advising using the correct charger for the equipment? ak7274
  • Score: 14

12:50pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Omega Point says...

lezyork1966 wrote:
omg lets get ready for all those who call lipo batteries bombs but still carry a cellphone....


for you who dont understand lipo batteries, the go pop if over or undercharged. thats it. its no harder to understand than that. Oh and if you crush/stab them.

sorry mate its not the charging amps that poofs them its the voltage. I charge my 5amp lipo packs at upto 10amps all the time. I also discharge them at like 35 amps. stop the charging totally at 4.10/4.15 all is fine, even go to 4.20, but if you have a broken charger and start taking them to 5 or above.. run and hide...

Also never take them down below 2.8, or they cant get a bit unstable...
Please people ignore the so called advice offered here.
[quote][p][bold]lezyork1966[/bold] wrote: omg lets get ready for all those who call lipo batteries bombs but still carry a cellphone.... for you who dont understand lipo batteries, the go pop if over or undercharged. thats it. its no harder to understand than that. Oh and if you crush/stab them. sorry mate its not the charging amps that poofs them its the voltage. I charge my 5amp lipo packs at upto 10amps all the time. I also discharge them at like 35 amps. stop the charging totally at 4.10/4.15 all is fine, even go to 4.20, but if you have a broken charger and start taking them to 5 or above.. run and hide... Also never take them down below 2.8, or they cant get a bit unstable...[/p][/quote]Please people ignore the so called advice offered here. Omega Point
  • Score: 9

1:23pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Teabag1 says...

Nicotine is still poison these things are a ticking time bomb just like fags were/are.
Nicotine is still poison these things are a ticking time bomb just like fags were/are. Teabag1
  • Score: -21

1:57pm Tue 8 Apr 14

petesmuk says...

Overproof wrote:
Essentially due to using the incorrect charger.

A 2amp, 5 volt I-pad charger is unsuitable to recharge a battery that is designed to be charged with a 420 milli amp, 4.2v supply.

You should only use the charger that is supplied with the e-cig, and if you need a mains adapter, then you should obtain one that is for an e-cig usb charger.
Made in China?
[quote][p][bold]Overproof[/bold] wrote: Essentially due to using the incorrect charger. A 2amp, 5 volt I-pad charger is unsuitable to recharge a battery that is designed to be charged with a 420 milli amp, 4.2v supply. You should only use the charger that is supplied with the e-cig, and if you need a mains adapter, then you should obtain one that is for an e-cig usb charger.[/p][/quote]Made in China? petesmuk
  • Score: 8

1:58pm Tue 8 Apr 14

petesmuk says...

Made in China?
Made in China? petesmuk
  • Score: 2

2:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

the original Homer says...

Given the sensitivity of LiPo batteries to incorrect charging, it shouldn't be possible to connect them to any charger other than their own.

I can fully sympathise with anyone thinking that any cable which fits must be OK. We are conditioned to expect cables to either not fit at all, or to be OK to use.

It's OK saying we should use the dedicated cables, but everyone says that and we've become used to it being a rule we can break.

There are plenty of situations these days where cables don't come from the equipment manufacturers, such as connecting TVs to Sound systems. In some cases the equipment at each end is from different manufacturers, so who would even know which was the right cable?

My mobile phones have a mains charger at home, a solar charger on the bike, a 12V charger in my car, a 230V charger in the company car, and a USB charger at work. I have 2 work phones, plus my own, and I can plug any phone into any charger.

The Ecig manufacturers should use a bespoke connector, not one already in common use, especially if the voltages don't match. It's not good enough to rely on people to carefully match devices to chargers.
Given the sensitivity of LiPo batteries to incorrect charging, it shouldn't be possible to connect them to any charger other than their own. I can fully sympathise with anyone thinking that any cable which fits must be OK. We are conditioned to expect cables to either not fit at all, or to be OK to use. It's OK saying we should use the dedicated cables, but everyone says that and we've become used to it being a rule we can break. There are plenty of situations these days where cables don't come from the equipment manufacturers, such as connecting TVs to Sound systems. In some cases the equipment at each end is from different manufacturers, so who would even know which was the right cable? My mobile phones have a mains charger at home, a solar charger on the bike, a 12V charger in my car, a 230V charger in the company car, and a USB charger at work. I have 2 work phones, plus my own, and I can plug any phone into any charger. The Ecig manufacturers should use a bespoke connector, not one already in common use, especially if the voltages don't match. It's not good enough to rely on people to carefully match devices to chargers. the original Homer
  • Score: 1

2:39pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Overproof says...

the original Homer wrote:
Given the sensitivity of LiPo batteries to incorrect charging, it shouldn't be possible to connect them to any charger other than their own.

I can fully sympathise with anyone thinking that any cable which fits must be OK. We are conditioned to expect cables to either not fit at all, or to be OK to use.

It's OK saying we should use the dedicated cables, but everyone says that and we've become used to it being a rule we can break.

There are plenty of situations these days where cables don't come from the equipment manufacturers, such as connecting TVs to Sound systems. In some cases the equipment at each end is from different manufacturers, so who would even know which was the right cable?

My mobile phones have a mains charger at home, a solar charger on the bike, a 12V charger in my car, a 230V charger in the company car, and a USB charger at work. I have 2 work phones, plus my own, and I can plug any phone into any charger.

The Ecig manufacturers should use a bespoke connector, not one already in common use, especially if the voltages don't match. It's not good enough to rely on people to carefully match devices to chargers.
Mobile phones blow up as well you know ?
Google 'mobile phone exploded'
or 'mobile phone fire'.

All of the large e-cig companies specify to only use the charger that comes with the kit. The problem sometimes comes when people buy the cheapest possible e-cig and charger and mix and match different products, such as i-pad chargers, as in this case.
[quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: Given the sensitivity of LiPo batteries to incorrect charging, it shouldn't be possible to connect them to any charger other than their own. I can fully sympathise with anyone thinking that any cable which fits must be OK. We are conditioned to expect cables to either not fit at all, or to be OK to use. It's OK saying we should use the dedicated cables, but everyone says that and we've become used to it being a rule we can break. There are plenty of situations these days where cables don't come from the equipment manufacturers, such as connecting TVs to Sound systems. In some cases the equipment at each end is from different manufacturers, so who would even know which was the right cable? My mobile phones have a mains charger at home, a solar charger on the bike, a 12V charger in my car, a 230V charger in the company car, and a USB charger at work. I have 2 work phones, plus my own, and I can plug any phone into any charger. The Ecig manufacturers should use a bespoke connector, not one already in common use, especially if the voltages don't match. It's not good enough to rely on people to carefully match devices to chargers.[/p][/quote]Mobile phones blow up as well you know ? Google 'mobile phone exploded' or 'mobile phone fire'. All of the large e-cig companies specify to only use the charger that comes with the kit. The problem sometimes comes when people buy the cheapest possible e-cig and charger and mix and match different products, such as i-pad chargers, as in this case. Overproof
  • Score: 6

3:37pm Tue 8 Apr 14

bloodaxe says...

What is an e-cig ? Can you smoke virtually, on-line ? Or is that an i-cig ? Oh dear, modern life can be very confusing. Perhaps I should get out more. Life in the modern pub seems so much more exciting than hitherto.
What is an e-cig ? Can you smoke virtually, on-line ? Or is that an i-cig ? Oh dear, modern life can be very confusing. Perhaps I should get out more. Life in the modern pub seems so much more exciting than hitherto. bloodaxe
  • Score: 5

3:58pm Tue 8 Apr 14

the original Homer says...

Overproof wrote:
the original Homer wrote:
Given the sensitivity of LiPo batteries to incorrect charging, it shouldn't be possible to connect them to any charger other than their own.

I can fully sympathise with anyone thinking that any cable which fits must be OK. We are conditioned to expect cables to either not fit at all, or to be OK to use.

It's OK saying we should use the dedicated cables, but everyone says that and we've become used to it being a rule we can break.

There are plenty of situations these days where cables don't come from the equipment manufacturers, such as connecting TVs to Sound systems. In some cases the equipment at each end is from different manufacturers, so who would even know which was the right cable?

My mobile phones have a mains charger at home, a solar charger on the bike, a 12V charger in my car, a 230V charger in the company car, and a USB charger at work. I have 2 work phones, plus my own, and I can plug any phone into any charger.

The Ecig manufacturers should use a bespoke connector, not one already in common use, especially if the voltages don't match. It's not good enough to rely on people to carefully match devices to chargers.
Mobile phones blow up as well you know ?
Google 'mobile phone exploded'
or 'mobile phone fire'.

All of the large e-cig companies specify to only use the charger that comes with the kit. The problem sometimes comes when people buy the cheapest possible e-cig and charger and mix and match different products, such as i-pad chargers, as in this case.
All the phone chargers I use have the same output, even though they're from a range of manufacturers. I've never come across a phone charger with that connection (micro USB) and any different output.

The e-cig and i-pads share the same connector, but have different voltages - that's wrong, and no amount of "use the right charger" instructions will get round it.

My desktop computer uses the same lead and connector as my kettle, and both say I should only use their own leads, but every one knows that those connectors are all the same voltage.

There isn't a manufacturer around who would use that same connection in a low voltage application, because they know that (despite instructions) some day, someone would plug 230V into it.

Making a 4.2 volt e-cig with a socket that a 5 volt i-pad plug will fit is just the same, albeit on a smaller scale.

It's unsafe to ever design anything that permits the joining of incompatible voltages, that's why there are so many different shaped connectors. The get out clause of use the right charger is a bit like the boy who cried wolf - no one listens.
[quote][p][bold]Overproof[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: Given the sensitivity of LiPo batteries to incorrect charging, it shouldn't be possible to connect them to any charger other than their own. I can fully sympathise with anyone thinking that any cable which fits must be OK. We are conditioned to expect cables to either not fit at all, or to be OK to use. It's OK saying we should use the dedicated cables, but everyone says that and we've become used to it being a rule we can break. There are plenty of situations these days where cables don't come from the equipment manufacturers, such as connecting TVs to Sound systems. In some cases the equipment at each end is from different manufacturers, so who would even know which was the right cable? My mobile phones have a mains charger at home, a solar charger on the bike, a 12V charger in my car, a 230V charger in the company car, and a USB charger at work. I have 2 work phones, plus my own, and I can plug any phone into any charger. The Ecig manufacturers should use a bespoke connector, not one already in common use, especially if the voltages don't match. It's not good enough to rely on people to carefully match devices to chargers.[/p][/quote]Mobile phones blow up as well you know ? Google 'mobile phone exploded' or 'mobile phone fire'. All of the large e-cig companies specify to only use the charger that comes with the kit. The problem sometimes comes when people buy the cheapest possible e-cig and charger and mix and match different products, such as i-pad chargers, as in this case.[/p][/quote]All the phone chargers I use have the same output, even though they're from a range of manufacturers. I've never come across a phone charger with that connection (micro USB) and any different output. The e-cig and i-pads share the same connector, but have different voltages - that's wrong, and no amount of "use the right charger" instructions will get round it. My desktop computer uses the same lead and connector as my kettle, and both say I should only use their own leads, but every one knows that those connectors are all the same voltage. There isn't a manufacturer around who would use that same connection in a low voltage application, because they know that (despite instructions) some day, someone would plug 230V into it. Making a 4.2 volt e-cig with a socket that a 5 volt i-pad plug will fit is just the same, albeit on a smaller scale. It's unsafe to ever design anything that permits the joining of incompatible voltages, that's why there are so many different shaped connectors. The get out clause of use the right charger is a bit like the boy who cried wolf - no one listens. the original Homer
  • Score: 1

4:14pm Tue 8 Apr 14

markymmark says...

Ah - Bring back the old days when "punters" were known by there correct title of "customer" !!!!!!
Ah - Bring back the old days when "punters" were known by there correct title of "customer" !!!!!! markymmark
  • Score: 5

4:21pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Dr Brian says...

petesmuk wrote:
Overproof wrote:
Essentially due to using the incorrect charger.

A 2amp, 5 volt I-pad charger is unsuitable to recharge a battery that is designed to be charged with a 420 milli amp, 4.2v supply.

You should only use the charger that is supplied with the e-cig, and if you need a mains adapter, then you should obtain one that is for an e-cig usb charger.
Made in China?
Made in China? What the people who use these things?
[quote][p][bold]petesmuk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Overproof[/bold] wrote: Essentially due to using the incorrect charger. A 2amp, 5 volt I-pad charger is unsuitable to recharge a battery that is designed to be charged with a 420 milli amp, 4.2v supply. You should only use the charger that is supplied with the e-cig, and if you need a mains adapter, then you should obtain one that is for an e-cig usb charger.[/p][/quote]Made in China?[/p][/quote]Made in China? What the people who use these things? Dr Brian
  • Score: 0

4:27pm Tue 8 Apr 14

jimthedoorman says...

18 and has been working there for 2 years? You sure you wanted to print that?
18 and has been working there for 2 years? You sure you wanted to print that? jimthedoorman
  • Score: 12

5:06pm Tue 8 Apr 14

Overproof says...

the original Homer wrote:
Overproof wrote:
the original Homer wrote:
Given the sensitivity of LiPo batteries to incorrect charging, it shouldn't be possible to connect them to any charger other than their own.

I can fully sympathise with anyone thinking that any cable which fits must be OK. We are conditioned to expect cables to either not fit at all, or to be OK to use.

It's OK saying we should use the dedicated cables, but everyone says that and we've become used to it being a rule we can break.

There are plenty of situations these days where cables don't come from the equipment manufacturers, such as connecting TVs to Sound systems. In some cases the equipment at each end is from different manufacturers, so who would even know which was the right cable?

My mobile phones have a mains charger at home, a solar charger on the bike, a 12V charger in my car, a 230V charger in the company car, and a USB charger at work. I have 2 work phones, plus my own, and I can plug any phone into any charger.

The Ecig manufacturers should use a bespoke connector, not one already in common use, especially if the voltages don't match. It's not good enough to rely on people to carefully match devices to chargers.
Mobile phones blow up as well you know ?
Google 'mobile phone exploded'
or 'mobile phone fire'.

All of the large e-cig companies specify to only use the charger that comes with the kit. The problem sometimes comes when people buy the cheapest possible e-cig and charger and mix and match different products, such as i-pad chargers, as in this case.
All the phone chargers I use have the same output, even though they're from a range of manufacturers. I've never come across a phone charger with that connection (micro USB) and any different output.

The e-cig and i-pads share the same connector, but have different voltages - that's wrong, and no amount of "use the right charger" instructions will get round it.

My desktop computer uses the same lead and connector as my kettle, and both say I should only use their own leads, but every one knows that those connectors are all the same voltage.

There isn't a manufacturer around who would use that same connection in a low voltage application, because they know that (despite instructions) some day, someone would plug 230V into it.

Making a 4.2 volt e-cig with a socket that a 5 volt i-pad plug will fit is just the same, albeit on a smaller scale.

It's unsafe to ever design anything that permits the joining of incompatible voltages, that's why there are so many different shaped connectors. The get out clause of use the right charger is a bit like the boy who cried wolf - no one listens.
I see what you are saying.

E-cig usb chargers are designed to be used with a low voltage source (laptop/pc or with an appropriate adapter)

An ipad charger is specifically designed to charge an ipad, but some people seem to think it is perfectly okay to use for anything with a usb.

The article should be 'ipad charger caused explosion' - just how this story was reported in the Metro.

Mind you, I have just searched for 'ipad exploded' and found that there are much more of these than ecigs - so I think this is the root of the problem.
[quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Overproof[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]the original Homer[/bold] wrote: Given the sensitivity of LiPo batteries to incorrect charging, it shouldn't be possible to connect them to any charger other than their own. I can fully sympathise with anyone thinking that any cable which fits must be OK. We are conditioned to expect cables to either not fit at all, or to be OK to use. It's OK saying we should use the dedicated cables, but everyone says that and we've become used to it being a rule we can break. There are plenty of situations these days where cables don't come from the equipment manufacturers, such as connecting TVs to Sound systems. In some cases the equipment at each end is from different manufacturers, so who would even know which was the right cable? My mobile phones have a mains charger at home, a solar charger on the bike, a 12V charger in my car, a 230V charger in the company car, and a USB charger at work. I have 2 work phones, plus my own, and I can plug any phone into any charger. The Ecig manufacturers should use a bespoke connector, not one already in common use, especially if the voltages don't match. It's not good enough to rely on people to carefully match devices to chargers.[/p][/quote]Mobile phones blow up as well you know ? Google 'mobile phone exploded' or 'mobile phone fire'. All of the large e-cig companies specify to only use the charger that comes with the kit. The problem sometimes comes when people buy the cheapest possible e-cig and charger and mix and match different products, such as i-pad chargers, as in this case.[/p][/quote]All the phone chargers I use have the same output, even though they're from a range of manufacturers. I've never come across a phone charger with that connection (micro USB) and any different output. The e-cig and i-pads share the same connector, but have different voltages - that's wrong, and no amount of "use the right charger" instructions will get round it. My desktop computer uses the same lead and connector as my kettle, and both say I should only use their own leads, but every one knows that those connectors are all the same voltage. There isn't a manufacturer around who would use that same connection in a low voltage application, because they know that (despite instructions) some day, someone would plug 230V into it. Making a 4.2 volt e-cig with a socket that a 5 volt i-pad plug will fit is just the same, albeit on a smaller scale. It's unsafe to ever design anything that permits the joining of incompatible voltages, that's why there are so many different shaped connectors. The get out clause of use the right charger is a bit like the boy who cried wolf - no one listens.[/p][/quote]I see what you are saying. E-cig usb chargers are designed to be used with a low voltage source (laptop/pc or with an appropriate adapter) An ipad charger is specifically designed to charge an ipad, but some people seem to think it is perfectly okay to use for anything with a usb. The article should be 'ipad charger caused explosion' - just how this story was reported in the Metro. Mind you, I have just searched for 'ipad exploded' and found that there are much more of these than ecigs - so I think this is the root of the problem. Overproof
  • Score: 4

5:56pm Tue 8 Apr 14

powerwatt says...

Teabag1 wrote:
Nicotine is still poison these things are a ticking time bomb just like fags were/are.
What if there was no nicotine in there? I use 0 nicotine vaper.

This is the problem with cheap ecigs, poor quality product. If that is the case.

Also to the point of using the wrong charger, all reputable manufacturers state this. This is the reason why.
[quote][p][bold]Teabag1[/bold] wrote: Nicotine is still poison these things are a ticking time bomb just like fags were/are.[/p][/quote]What if there was no nicotine in there? I use 0 nicotine vaper. This is the problem with cheap ecigs, poor quality product. If that is the case. Also to the point of using the wrong charger, all reputable manufacturers state this. This is the reason why. powerwatt
  • Score: 4

6:46pm Tue 8 Apr 14

billygra says...

sadly it didn't explode in front of the idiot who plugged it, and its such a small explosion, we could use the free waste of space the idiot left.
sadly it didn't explode in front of the idiot who plugged it, and its such a small explosion, we could use the free waste of space the idiot left. billygra
  • Score: -1

6:47pm Tue 8 Apr 14

wildthing666 says...

Only use the charger supplied, she should claim off him for a new dress and prsonal injury.
Only use the charger supplied, she should claim off him for a new dress and prsonal injury. wildthing666
  • Score: 0

4:18am Wed 9 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

Overproof wrote:
Essentially due to using the incorrect charger.

A 2amp, 5 volt I-pad charger is unsuitable to recharge a battery that is designed to be charged with a 420 milli amp, 4.2v supply.

You should only use the charger that is supplied with the e-cig, and if you need a mains adapter, then you should obtain one that is for an e-cig usb charger.
Indeed... no problem with the E-cig itself, simply human error. Electricity should always be respected, and although this was only a low power low current example of what can happen if the wrong 'connection' so to speak is made, it still should serve as a warning.
[quote][p][bold]Overproof[/bold] wrote: Essentially due to using the incorrect charger. A 2amp, 5 volt I-pad charger is unsuitable to recharge a battery that is designed to be charged with a 420 milli amp, 4.2v supply. You should only use the charger that is supplied with the e-cig, and if you need a mains adapter, then you should obtain one that is for an e-cig usb charger.[/p][/quote]Indeed... no problem with the E-cig itself, simply human error. Electricity should always be respected, and although this was only a low power low current example of what can happen if the wrong 'connection' so to speak is made, it still should serve as a warning. Magicman!
  • Score: 4

5:57pm Wed 9 Apr 14

redchick says...

yorkandproud wrote:
Why not just pack in smoking you fools.
They are...that's why they have e-cigs?
[quote][p][bold]yorkandproud[/bold] wrote: Why not just pack in smoking you fools.[/p][/quote]They are...that's why they have e-cigs? redchick
  • Score: 4

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