Hotel and petrol station plans for A64 unveiled

Hotel and petrol station plans for A64 unveiled

Hotel and petrol station plans for A64 unveiled

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PLANS for a 50-bedroom hotel and service station next to the A64 on the edge of York have been unveiled.

A potential scheme for farmland next to the Hopgrove roundabout emerged last year, but firm proposals have now been handed in to City of York Council with the developers saying North Yorkshire's busiest road needs more facilities for motorists.

If approved - with a decision expected to be made over the summer - the scheme, which is in the green belt on a triangle of land between the A64 the outer ring road and Old Malton Road, would include a lodge-style hotel with up to 50 rooms, a petrol station, a restaurant or cafe and 211 parking spaces, as well as a children's play area.

Enita Europe Ltd, which has submitted the planning application said the closest A64 services to Hopgrove were 12 miles away at Bilbrough Top, and there was a 42-mile gap between this site and facilities at Staxton, near Scarborough.

In a statement to the council, planning consultants England & Lyle said the need for more roadside stops on the A64 had "long been recognised" and a 2002 study by the Highways Agency said the possibility of 24-hour services either at Hopgrove or Fulford Interchange should be looked at.

It said: "The application site was identified as a suitable location to meet the need for good-quality and comprehensive services on the A64."

Traffic experts brought in by the applicants said that while the number of cars using the junction will increase when the Vangarde shopping complex at Monks Cross opens, extra capacity was being provided. Their report said most drivers heading to the Hopgrove roundabout would be using the road already, with the entrance and exit for the development being from Malton Road.

After the possibility of a service station and hotel at the site was raised last year, concerns were raised by local politicians about its impact on the green belt and traffic levels, with Huntington and New Earswick councillor Keith Orrell saying the gap in facilities along the A64 ignored the fact York had many petrol stations, shops and hotels.

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9:41am Fri 4 Apr 14

JHardacre says...

No mention of cycle racks. PP won't be pleased. Stand by for his well thought-out objections!
No mention of cycle racks. PP won't be pleased. Stand by for his well thought-out objections! JHardacre
  • Score: 17

9:59am Fri 4 Apr 14

clm058 says...

good idea will be well placed on th A64
good idea will be well placed on th A64 clm058
  • Score: 7

10:13am Fri 4 Apr 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Wonder if the council have extracted some more money out of the company to get a new set of traffic lights?
Wonder if the council have extracted some more money out of the company to get a new set of traffic lights? strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 12

10:40am Fri 4 Apr 14

YorkPatrol says...

strangebuttrue? wrote:
Wonder if the council have extracted some more money out of the company to get a new set of traffic lights?
I doubt it
[quote][p][bold]strangebuttrue?[/bold] wrote: Wonder if the council have extracted some more money out of the company to get a new set of traffic lights?[/p][/quote]I doubt it YorkPatrol
  • Score: 6

10:42am Fri 4 Apr 14

ReginaldBiscuit says...

Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc.

Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives?

An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen.

Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it.

Nanu Nanu
Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc. Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives? An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen. Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it. Nanu Nanu ReginaldBiscuit
  • Score: -6

10:44am Fri 4 Apr 14

Maltonian says...

Well it's not like it's ever congested in that area..............
Well it's not like it's ever congested in that area.............. Maltonian
  • Score: 15

10:49am Fri 4 Apr 14

JHardacre says...

ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc.

Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives?

An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen.

Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it.

Nanu Nanu
What a load of b***s!

FFS get a life.
[quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc. Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives? An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen. Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it. Nanu Nanu[/p][/quote]What a load of b***s! FFS get a life. JHardacre
  • Score: 4

10:50am Fri 4 Apr 14

piemagico says...

Good luck to the scheme.

I imagine Councillor Orrell is also arguing that York doesn't need any more houses as it already has lots of houses.
Good luck to the scheme. I imagine Councillor Orrell is also arguing that York doesn't need any more houses as it already has lots of houses. piemagico
  • Score: -4

12:20pm Fri 4 Apr 14

BL2 says...

JHardacre wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc.

Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives?

An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen.

Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it.

Nanu Nanu
What a load of b***s!

FFS get a life.
Actually it isn't it you read the scientific studies instead of just being a nay-sayer...!

Don't build on green-belt land. EVER...!
[quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc. Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives? An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen. Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it. Nanu Nanu[/p][/quote]What a load of b***s! FFS get a life.[/p][/quote]Actually it isn't it you read the scientific studies instead of just being a nay-sayer...! Don't build on green-belt land. EVER...! BL2
  • Score: 6

12:32pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Stevie D says...

This is a dreadful idea. The area round Hopgrove is already badly congested, and while the traffic lights have helped to reduce queues from York and the A1237, the junction is still busy enough that any additional developments are likely to have a severe impact on traffic congestion.

And it's in the wrong place. It's only 12 miles from Bilbrough Top, but over 40 miles from Staxton – the usual gaps are around 20-25 miles. There is already a hotel at Hopgrove, and two petrol stations and plenty of eateries at Monks Cross. It would make a lot more sense to develop the site at Harton, where there is currently the petrol station and diner, to offer a broader range of facilities. Harton is better positioned in terms of the distance to major towns and other service stations, and it is not at a point where there is such significant congestion so it won't impact on traffic flow as badly.
This is a dreadful idea. The area round Hopgrove is already badly congested, and while the traffic lights have helped to reduce queues from York and the A1237, the junction is still busy enough that any additional developments are likely to have a severe impact on traffic congestion. And it's in the wrong place. It's only 12 miles from Bilbrough Top, but over 40 miles from Staxton – the usual gaps are around 20-25 miles. There is already a hotel at Hopgrove, and two petrol stations and plenty of eateries at Monks Cross. It would make a lot more sense to develop the site at Harton, where there is currently the petrol station and diner, to offer a broader range of facilities. Harton is better positioned in terms of the distance to major towns and other service stations, and it is not at a point where there is such significant congestion so it won't impact on traffic flow as badly. Stevie D
  • Score: 14

12:39pm Fri 4 Apr 14

welf_man says...

How about the impact on the small local businesses in the area - the Vertigro Garden Centre cafe, the Highwayman cafe and the Farmer's Cart cafe and play area?
How about the impact on the small local businesses in the area - the Vertigro Garden Centre cafe, the Highwayman cafe and the Farmer's Cart cafe and play area? welf_man
  • Score: 4

1:04pm Fri 4 Apr 14

JHardacre says...

BL2 wrote:
JHardacre wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote:
Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc.

Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives?

An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen.

Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it.

Nanu Nanu
What a load of b***s!

FFS get a life.
Actually it isn't it you read the scientific studies instead of just being a nay-sayer...!

Don't build on green-belt land. EVER...!
"Don't build on green-belt land. EVER...!"

If that were true nothing would have been built in the first place. Where were you in neolithic era? Oh I forgot - you're still there!
[quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc. Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives? An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen. Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it. Nanu Nanu[/p][/quote]What a load of b***s! FFS get a life.[/p][/quote]Actually it isn't it you read the scientific studies instead of just being a nay-sayer...! Don't build on green-belt land. EVER...![/p][/quote]"Don't build on green-belt land. EVER...!" If that were true nothing would have been built in the first place. Where were you in neolithic era? Oh I forgot - you're still there! JHardacre
  • Score: 3

1:32pm Fri 4 Apr 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

BL2 wrote:
JHardacre wrote:
ReginaldBiscuit wrote: Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc. Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives? An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen. Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it. Nanu Nanu
What a load of b***s! FFS get a life.
Actually it isn't it you read the scientific studies instead of just being a nay-sayer...! Don't build on green-belt land. EVER...!
Just like the scientific study today that if you use mouthwash more then twice a day you double your chances of getting cancer (true)..

Reports say whatever people want them too...

Have you read the scientific report that states global warming doesn't exist? That its all natural ? You don’t hear global warming on many reports nowadays? is that because it was a buzz word to generate extra tax revenue?

So while you read the reports that back up global warming (now climate change as global warming was made up!!!) i choose to read the studies of independent people who have found its nature... not us...

To put it into perspective look at the size of the UK on a globe.. then think how much this land that we are building on in our city will effect anything? We in Yorkshire are surrounded by fields! and it will stay like that! But wasteful fields being put to no use might as well be built on! and will not effect any environmental aspect from weather to resources....

I'm all for grass etc... but I don’t go come on honey lets go to that field next to a dual carriage way... i instead go to the country side!
[quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ReginaldBiscuit[/bold] wrote: Growth. Expansion. Building. Consume. Growth etc. Ever thought that growth might actually be a bad thing sold by the politicians as essential to maintaining the quality of your lives? An IPCC report was out earlier this week which makes crystal clear that global weather and resources are being utterly rogered by the growth and expansion of humans. There are dire predictions in the report which most governments and countries will happily ignore. Humans are very good at ignoring problems, misunderstanding and reading what they want to see from subject matter. That said, no one can predict the future either. Most scientists in the 1800's thought that everything that could be discovered had been discovered. Most humans thought the first world war would last weeks or months and their progeny were absolutely convinced that another world war would never happen again in 'their' lifetimes. So the unexpected and unforeseen does happen. Nature will rise and bite you in the **** y'all. It's just how it happens that's the unforeseen bit, the unknown unknown. That is presuming the atomic option isn't invoked brought about by some petty squabble about land or resources. Humans have a proven track record going to war over these very things and who knows, building a hotel on the A64 could just be the catalyst which does it. Nanu Nanu[/p][/quote]What a load of b***s! FFS get a life.[/p][/quote]Actually it isn't it you read the scientific studies instead of just being a nay-sayer...! Don't build on green-belt land. EVER...![/p][/quote]Just like the scientific study today that if you use mouthwash more then twice a day you double your chances of getting cancer (true).. Reports say whatever people want them too... Have you read the scientific report that states global warming doesn't exist? That its all natural ? You don’t hear global warming on many reports nowadays? is that because it was a buzz word to generate extra tax revenue? So while you read the reports that back up global warming (now climate change as global warming was made up!!!) i choose to read the studies of independent people who have found its nature... not us... To put it into perspective look at the size of the UK on a globe.. then think how much this land that we are building on in our city will effect anything? We in Yorkshire are surrounded by fields! and it will stay like that! But wasteful fields being put to no use might as well be built on! and will not effect any environmental aspect from weather to resources.... I'm all for grass etc... but I don’t go come on honey lets go to that field next to a dual carriage way... i instead go to the country side! Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -1

1:49pm Fri 4 Apr 14

YorkPatrol says...

welf_man wrote:
How about the impact on the small local businesses in the area - the Vertigro Garden Centre cafe, the Highwayman cafe and the Farmer's Cart cafe and play area?
Either they will have to compete or go under.... simples

I'm not sure you can get a room for the night or some petrol from the Highwayman though
[quote][p][bold]welf_man[/bold] wrote: How about the impact on the small local businesses in the area - the Vertigro Garden Centre cafe, the Highwayman cafe and the Farmer's Cart cafe and play area?[/p][/quote]Either they will have to compete or go under.... simples I'm not sure you can get a room for the night or some petrol from the Highwayman though YorkPatrol
  • Score: -1

3:51pm Fri 4 Apr 14

chelk says...

Great place for Hotel and with all the new facilities nearby the visitors will not need to go into the centre of York
Great place for Hotel and with all the new facilities nearby the visitors will not need to go into the centre of York chelk
  • Score: 3

4:07pm Fri 4 Apr 14

speakinpublic says...

Sounds like a great idea. Holiday makers stuck in the queues in that area will need fuel & a bed for night.

The petrol station and hotel would be more suitably located towards Sand Hutton, perhaps near the fish and chip shop.
Sounds like a great idea. Holiday makers stuck in the queues in that area will need fuel & a bed for night. The petrol station and hotel would be more suitably located towards Sand Hutton, perhaps near the fish and chip shop. speakinpublic
  • Score: 3

6:08pm Fri 4 Apr 14

yorkandproud says...

welf_man wrote:
How about the impact on the small local businesses in the area - the Vertigro Garden Centre cafe, the Highwayman cafe and the Farmer's Cart cafe and play area?
Your post smells of "vested interest" to me.
[quote][p][bold]welf_man[/bold] wrote: How about the impact on the small local businesses in the area - the Vertigro Garden Centre cafe, the Highwayman cafe and the Farmer's Cart cafe and play area?[/p][/quote]Your post smells of "vested interest" to me. yorkandproud
  • Score: 1

9:37pm Fri 4 Apr 14

spottycow says...

Rix petrol station shut down couldnt make money sneaky this firm just ti build hotel
Rix petrol station shut down couldnt make money sneaky this firm just ti build hotel spottycow
  • Score: 0

3:05am Sat 5 Apr 14

Magicman! says...

Isn't there a petrol station and a Little Chef (among the other eateries) near Claxton on the A64?

Anyway, I think a more sensible idea would be to simply place a big green-backed sign near Hopgrove Roundabout (either direction) that states "Local Services" and points to Monks Cross. Let's face it, ASDA is open 24 hours a day monday-friday and until 10pm on saturday, McDonalds wants to build a new outlet with a 24 hour drive-through, and there's a holiday inn express at the carvery on the Malton Road. I'm sure space could be found to lay down some blacktop and put up some lights and cameras for a Lorry Park somewhere on Monks Cross too if there was the need.

I just don't think this is the right location, plus it could hinder future development of the A64 and A1237. That junction needs to have both roundabouts removed (access from Malton Road would be shifted to go behind Asda) and become a full freeflow junction, with a flyover going from the A1237 to the westbound A64, whilst the sliproad onto the eastbound A64 would actually form lane 1 of a 1-mile section of dual carriagway A64, but with concrete barriers between the two lanes and 'temporary' traffic lights at the end where the two lanes would merge to one (I say 'temporary', because if the rest of the A64 was then also dualled, there would be no need for the lights then) and those would be the only traffic lights.
Isn't there a petrol station and a Little Chef (among the other eateries) near Claxton on the A64? Anyway, I think a more sensible idea would be to simply place a big green-backed sign near Hopgrove Roundabout (either direction) that states "Local Services" and points to Monks Cross. Let's face it, ASDA is open 24 hours a day monday-friday and until 10pm on saturday, McDonalds wants to build a new outlet with a 24 hour drive-through, and there's a holiday inn express at the carvery on the Malton Road. I'm sure space could be found to lay down some blacktop and put up some lights and cameras for a Lorry Park somewhere on Monks Cross too if there was the need. I just don't think this is the right location, plus it could hinder future development of the A64 and A1237. That junction needs to have both roundabouts removed (access from Malton Road would be shifted to go behind Asda) and become a full freeflow junction, with a flyover going from the A1237 to the westbound A64, whilst the sliproad onto the eastbound A64 would actually form lane 1 of a 1-mile section of dual carriagway A64, but with concrete barriers between the two lanes and 'temporary' traffic lights at the end where the two lanes would merge to one (I say 'temporary', because if the rest of the A64 was then also dualled, there would be no need for the lights then) and those would be the only traffic lights. Magicman!
  • Score: 3

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