Lendal Bridge D-day confirmed

Lendal Bridge has been closed to private vehicles for six-and-a-half hours a day since last August

Lendal Bridge has been closed to private vehicles for six-and-a-half hours a day since last August

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CITY leaders will decide on May 6 whether a controversial traffic trial on a York bridge is to be continued or abandoned.

Lendal Bridge has been shut to private vehicles between 10.30am and 5pm since August 27 through a City of York Council experiment which lasted six months, although the restrictions are being kept in place while the council assesses the impact of the trial.

The Labour-run council has said the scheme will speed up bus journeys, improve air quality and encourage more people to walk and cycle, but opponents say it has caused congestion elsewhere, affected city-centre businesses and harmed York’s reputation due to tens of thousands of visitors to the city receiving £60 fines for breaching the rules.

The authority has received at least £1.3 million in income from fines since the trial started. An “evaluation report” on the trial will be discussed by the council’s cabinet on May 6, with a decision being taken then on whether to scrap the experiment, continue the restrictions or extend the hours of operation.

The same meeting is also due to discuss proposals to “improve city-centre competitiveness”.

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2:54pm Tue 18 Mar 14

meme says...

Its already decided
It will not reopen
Its already decided It will not reopen meme
  • Score: 303

3:07pm Tue 18 Mar 14

asd says...

The fact its still open when the trial has finished speaks volumes about their intent. Pollution, long tailbacks will be the order of the day for rest of York. I cant wait for the 20 mile diameter extractor fan in the sky to pull the pollution away from the bridge or maybe its an invisible barrier that stops pollution moving across.
The fact its still open when the trial has finished speaks volumes about their intent. Pollution, long tailbacks will be the order of the day for rest of York. I cant wait for the 20 mile diameter extractor fan in the sky to pull the pollution away from the bridge or maybe its an invisible barrier that stops pollution moving across. asd
  • Score: 1038

3:20pm Tue 18 Mar 14

inthesticks says...

D-day stands for doomsday for the Councillors if they don`t vote to re-open the bridge.
D-day stands for doomsday for the Councillors if they don`t vote to re-open the bridge. inthesticks
  • Score: 13

3:22pm Tue 18 Mar 14

dannyemmess says...

Of course it will remain restricted access and I'd be surprised if Ouse Bridge isn't operated under a similar scheme in the near future. As for the £1.3m income generated by fines - the signs are big enough to see!!
Of course it will remain restricted access and I'd be surprised if Ouse Bridge isn't operated under a similar scheme in the near future. As for the £1.3m income generated by fines - the signs are big enough to see!! dannyemmess
  • Score: 1660

3:26pm Tue 18 Mar 14

TheTruthHurts says...

I bet that the 1.3 Million income ends up turning into a loss. Im gonna put a FOI request in once it is all over and done with.
I bet that the 1.3 Million income ends up turning into a loss. Im gonna put a FOI request in once it is all over and done with. TheTruthHurts
  • Score: 54

3:30pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Lunatic says...

Against the closure.
I'd love to see it reopened, but I doubt they will.
But anybody who missed the signs and road markings is driving without due care and attention and deserves all they get.
Against the closure. I'd love to see it reopened, but I doubt they will. But anybody who missed the signs and road markings is driving without due care and attention and deserves all they get. Lunatic
  • Score: -65

3:43pm Tue 18 Mar 14

chelk says...

This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop chelk
  • Score: 91

3:45pm Tue 18 Mar 14

The Great Buda says...

If this 6 month trial stated in August, why are we having to wait till May (nearly ten months on) to find out what will happen?

I'm not one for the #CoUnCiL_cOnSpIrAcY rubbish that gets posted on here, but this is taking the biscuit some what.
If this 6 month trial stated in August, why are we having to wait till May (nearly ten months on) to find out what will happen? I'm not one for the #CoUnCiL_cOnSpIrAcY rubbish that gets posted on here, but this is taking the biscuit some what. The Great Buda
  • Score: 47

3:49pm Tue 18 Mar 14

TheManor says...

That sounds like a good plan. Let's get those three pesky bank holidays with all those tourists (who don't know their way around York and end up getting fined as they cross the bridge) out of the way first. After all, every little helps...
That sounds like a good plan. Let's get those three pesky bank holidays with all those tourists (who don't know their way around York and end up getting fined as they cross the bridge) out of the way first. After all, every little helps... TheManor
  • Score: 40

3:52pm Tue 18 Mar 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying... AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: 34

3:54pm Tue 18 Mar 14

ColdAsChristmas says...

Looks like the same people who decided to restrict the bridge will decide on its future. I know what that tells me!
Stringing it out a bit to wait until 6th May aren't they?
Looks like the same people who decided to restrict the bridge will decide on its future. I know what that tells me! Stringing it out a bit to wait until 6th May aren't they? ColdAsChristmas
  • Score: 37

4:14pm Tue 18 Mar 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

6th May is judgement day, 1 issue, 2 decisions.

One decision by the council.

One decision by the residents.
6th May is judgement day, 1 issue, 2 decisions. One decision by the council. One decision by the residents. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: 42

4:27pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Diogenes2 says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
AGuyFromStrensall must be a first-class bore.
The current council cabinet are muppets!
Guess who is Miss Piggly is?
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]AGuyFromStrensall must be a first-class bore. The current council cabinet are muppets! Guess who is Miss Piggly is? Diogenes2
  • Score: 8

4:27pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Diogenes2 says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
AGuyFromStrensall must be a first-class bore.
The current council cabinet are muppets!
Guess who is Miss Piggly is?
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]AGuyFromStrensall must be a first-class bore. The current council cabinet are muppets! Guess who is Miss Piggly is? Diogenes2
  • Score: -43

4:31pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Major Bloodnok says...

inthesticks wrote:
D-day stands for doomsday for the Councillors if they don`t vote to re-open the bridge.
I think D-day stands for Doodle Day
[quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: D-day stands for doomsday for the Councillors if they don`t vote to re-open the bridge.[/p][/quote]I think D-day stands for Doodle Day Major Bloodnok
  • Score: -74

4:36pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Major Bloodnok says...

inthesticks wrote:
D-day stands for doomsday for the Councillors if they don`t vote to re-open the bridge.
I think D-day stands for Doodle Day
[quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: D-day stands for doomsday for the Councillors if they don`t vote to re-open the bridge.[/p][/quote]I think D-day stands for Doodle Day Major Bloodnok
  • Score: -27

4:39pm Tue 18 Mar 14

york_chap says...

So that's how long it takes to manipulate data which completely contradict your intended outcomes into something that appears to support them.

This council are experts at skewing statistics and transforming useful data into nonesense-statements to support their ideals - I'm amazed they need until the 6th May to work their magic on the bridge report. It must be a good'un. I suppose the report will proudly declare:

- reduced daytime traffic volumes on Lendal Bridge
- reduced daytime traffic volumes on St Leonard's Place
- Daytime bus journies between Aviva and the Museum Gardens greatly sped up
- Reduced daytime traffic noise on Lendal Bridge
- Many positive responses to leading questions such as "do you like the fact there is less traffic on the bridge?" and "would you be more inclined to use a bus if there was less congestion?"
So that's how long it takes to manipulate data which completely contradict your intended outcomes into something that appears to support them. This council are experts at skewing statistics and transforming useful data into nonesense-statements to support their ideals - I'm amazed they need until the 6th May to work their magic on the bridge report. It must be a good'un. I suppose the report will proudly declare: - reduced daytime traffic volumes on Lendal Bridge - reduced daytime traffic volumes on St Leonard's Place - Daytime bus journies between Aviva and the Museum Gardens greatly sped up - Reduced daytime traffic noise on Lendal Bridge - Many positive responses to leading questions such as "do you like the fact there is less traffic on the bridge?" and "would you be more inclined to use a bus if there was less congestion?" york_chap
  • Score: 49

4:48pm Tue 18 Mar 14

read-all-about-it says...

This is arguably the most controversial thing that has happened to York in many a long year. Several hundred posts from concerned local people over the months this 'trial' has been in operation testify to that.

However, what cannot be disputed by those responsible for it is the fact that it has plainly caused immeasurable harm to York's reputation as one of the finest tourism locations in the UK.

For Heaven's sake let common sense prevail and abandon it.
This is arguably the most controversial thing that has happened to York in many a long year. Several hundred posts from concerned local people over the months this 'trial' has been in operation testify to that. However, what cannot be disputed by those responsible for it is the fact that it has plainly caused immeasurable harm to York's reputation as one of the finest tourism locations in the UK. For Heaven's sake let common sense prevail and abandon it. read-all-about-it
  • Score: 68

5:04pm Tue 18 Mar 14

inthesticks says...

Major Bloodnok wrote:
inthesticks wrote:
D-day stands for doomsday for the Councillors if they don`t vote to re-open the bridge.
I think D-day stands for Doodle Day
They will have plenty of time for doodling after May 2015.
[quote][p][bold]Major Bloodnok[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: D-day stands for doomsday for the Councillors if they don`t vote to re-open the bridge.[/p][/quote]I think D-day stands for Doodle Day[/p][/quote]They will have plenty of time for doodling after May 2015. inthesticks
  • Score: 38

5:04pm Tue 18 Mar 14

pedalling paul says...

Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.
Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option. pedalling paul
  • Score: -293

5:24pm Tue 18 Mar 14

AnotherPointofView says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.
You're the only one on here spouting "gridlock". As for "letting traffic flow" that's a much better option of the current policy of "stop as much traffic as we can" leading to deliberate increase in pollution.

Abandon the closure now. It hasn't worked. Vote the muppets out in 2015.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.[/p][/quote]You're the only one on here spouting "gridlock". As for "letting traffic flow" that's a much better option of the current policy of "stop as much traffic as we can" leading to deliberate increase in pollution. Abandon the closure now. It hasn't worked. Vote the muppets out in 2015. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: 168

5:24pm Tue 18 Mar 14

bolero says...

Stop stirring it PP. We know you can't be serious because nobody with an ounce of sense would come out with such garbage.
Stop stirring it PP. We know you can't be serious because nobody with an ounce of sense would come out with such garbage. bolero
  • Score: 220

5:34pm Tue 18 Mar 14

LibDem says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.
Get the message Paul. Only Labour and the Greens are in favour of the Lendal Bridge access restrictions.

The 2010 Council voted to improve the northern by pass, then increase bus service frequency, then - cautiously - trial the closure of Ouse (not Lendal) bridge.

Then the plan was to listen to York residents reactions before deciding what to do next.

Too late now. The wrong bridge was closed, in the wrong year and using the wrong enforcement method. There is no political consensus possible now because of Labours bullish anti personal transport approach.

. It may be that the local elections in 2015 become effectively a referendum on Lendal Bridge, on wide area 20 mph speed limits and, oh yes ... Labour's plans to increase the size of the City by 25% over the next 15 years .........with all that would imply for traffic congestion and a subsequent melt down of the. transport system.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.[/p][/quote]Get the message Paul. Only Labour and the Greens are in favour of the Lendal Bridge access restrictions. The 2010 Council voted to improve the northern by pass, then increase bus service frequency, then - cautiously - trial the closure of Ouse (not Lendal) bridge. Then the plan was to listen to York residents reactions before deciding what to do next. Too late now. The wrong bridge was closed, in the wrong year and using the wrong enforcement method. There is no political consensus possible now because of Labours bullish anti personal transport approach. . It may be that the local elections in 2015 become effectively a referendum on Lendal Bridge, on wide area 20 mph speed limits and, oh yes ... Labour's plans to increase the size of the City by 25% over the next 15 years .........with all that would imply for traffic congestion and a subsequent melt down of the. transport system. LibDem
  • Score: 49

5:37pm Tue 18 Mar 14

TheManor says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.
Closing the bridge does not reduce car dependency, it merely displaces it - drivers either go on a different route, or if they are planning a shopping trip, head to an out-of-town location. There are plenty of occasions where the only option to using a car is to use a taxi (transporting those with mobility difficulties, travelling with luggage, etc) - and as they can use the bridge, this doesn't reduce dependency, it just increases the cost.
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.[/p][/quote]Closing the bridge does not reduce car dependency, it merely displaces it - drivers either go on a different route, or if they are planning a shopping trip, head to an out-of-town location. There are plenty of occasions where the only option to using a car is to use a taxi (transporting those with mobility difficulties, travelling with luggage, etc) - and as they can use the bridge, this doesn't reduce dependency, it just increases the cost. TheManor
  • Score: -45

6:03pm Tue 18 Mar 14

chelk says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them chelk
  • Score: -71

6:12pm Tue 18 Mar 14

CaroleBaines says...

The Great Buda wrote:
If this 6 month trial stated in August, why are we having to wait till May (nearly ten months on) to find out what will happen?

I'm not one for the #CoUnCiL_cOnSpIrAcY rubbish that gets posted on here, but this is taking the biscuit some what.
Fully agreed. The council must laugh their socks off at the affordable housing lobby with their stooge/Maxist/lefty nonsense, it means when there is a real gripe, our voice gets lost.

The bridge closure has been mishandled right the way through - poor signage, poor consultation and then extra months tagged on. When the voices of reason ask questions, I hope we can still be heard however!
[quote][p][bold]The Great Buda[/bold] wrote: If this 6 month trial stated in August, why are we having to wait till May (nearly ten months on) to find out what will happen? I'm not one for the #CoUnCiL_cOnSpIrAcY rubbish that gets posted on here, but this is taking the biscuit some what.[/p][/quote]Fully agreed. The council must laugh their socks off at the affordable housing lobby with their stooge/Maxist/lefty nonsense, it means when there is a real gripe, our voice gets lost. The bridge closure has been mishandled right the way through - poor signage, poor consultation and then extra months tagged on. When the voices of reason ask questions, I hope we can still be heard however! CaroleBaines
  • Score: 9

6:33pm Tue 18 Mar 14

anistasia says...

We all know the decision is already made some months ago why would the council want to give something up that brings in so much money.if it stays closed its about time rising bollard should be used but again this will not happen because a bollard would stop cars going over the bridge hence no income.
We all know the decision is already made some months ago why would the council want to give something up that brings in so much money.if it stays closed its about time rising bollard should be used but again this will not happen because a bollard would stop cars going over the bridge hence no income. anistasia
  • Score: -27

7:14pm Tue 18 Mar 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Early start for the mark-down mongrel.

Woof, Woof.
Early start for the mark-down mongrel. Woof, Woof. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -26

7:27pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Badgers Drift says...

Like the majority of York residents, I am against the closure, but, do not expect the council to listen or take notice to residents views.

If however they did re-open Lendal Bridge, I still hope that the current Labour administration are voted out in 2015, as they cannot be trusted.
Like the majority of York residents, I am against the closure, but, do not expect the council to listen or take notice to residents views. If however they did re-open Lendal Bridge, I still hope that the current Labour administration are voted out in 2015, as they cannot be trusted. Badgers Drift
  • Score: -44

7:57pm Tue 18 Mar 14

piaggio1 says...

Cannot be trusted the lot of em.
My god they have been found out many a time.
This lot have a load of skeleton.s in their group.
Just wait till it ALL come.s out.........
And it will.
Cannot be trusted the lot of em. My god they have been found out many a time. This lot have a load of skeleton.s in their group. Just wait till it ALL come.s out......... And it will. piaggio1
  • Score: -26

8:08pm Tue 18 Mar 14

gmc_1963 says...

NO CONFIDENCE
NO CONFIDENCE gmc_1963
  • Score: 1

9:29pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

MAY?? Really? Even if they set on an intern 16 hours a week that would be 160 hours. A full time cabinet with the relevant skills and experience should be able to come the conclusion of "FAIL" in a morning. Never mind that they should already know.

Pretending to need so long is nothing but a pi55take. Nobody is fooled.
MAY?? Really? Even if they set on an intern 16 hours a week that would be 160 hours. A full time cabinet with the relevant skills and experience should be able to come the conclusion of "FAIL" in a morning. Never mind that they should already know. Pretending to need so long is nothing but a pi55take. Nobody is fooled. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 26

9:34pm Tue 18 Mar 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
Agree with this.
Even if I agreed with chelk I'd vote them down. Stupid boring repetitive tabloid lowest common denominator soundbite lame.
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]Agree with this. Even if I agreed with chelk I'd vote them down. Stupid boring repetitive tabloid lowest common denominator soundbite lame. Buzzz Light-year
  • Score: 1

9:34pm Tue 18 Mar 14

anistasia says...

The council won't be spending all this money on road signs for something temporary.I was told the bollard in stonebow will be removed so more driver will get caught out bringing in even more money council policy to have no
cars inside the city walls.
The council won't be spending all this money on road signs for something temporary.I was told the bollard in stonebow will be removed so more driver will get caught out bringing in even more money council policy to have no cars inside the city walls. anistasia
  • Score: -45

9:36pm Tue 18 Mar 14

inthesticks says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.
Paul. Read your first three words again.. This time veeeery slooowwly...
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.[/p][/quote]Paul. Read your first three words again.. This time veeeery slooowwly... inthesticks
  • Score: -36

12:33am Wed 19 Mar 14

strangebuttrue? says...

I believe that there will only be one consideration from the council when it comes to a decision on the bridge - has it caused more misery for anyone who has to or chooses to drive a car in York? - answer, yes immeasurable miserly. Decision - well good lets keep it that way.

Shame that that same misery is seeing:-
- Care providers spending less time with people who need care.
- Causing more pollution on top of the up to 48% increases the councils anti car policies have already caused.
- Costing business time, money and lost patronage.
- Wrecking the image of York as a tourist destination.
- Costing most of York's residents money not only through the implementation but the defence of this stupid "trial" and in increased fuel bills driving miles around along with extra wear and tear on their vehicles.

I think my last point may be taken by the council as another good reason to keep it shut and the rest - well they just don't care.
I believe that there will only be one consideration from the council when it comes to a decision on the bridge - has it caused more misery for anyone who has to or chooses to drive a car in York? - answer, yes immeasurable miserly. Decision - well good lets keep it that way. Shame that that same misery is seeing:- - Care providers spending less time with people who need care. - Causing more pollution on top of the up to 48% increases the councils anti car policies have already caused. - Costing business time, money and lost patronage. - Wrecking the image of York as a tourist destination. - Costing most of York's residents money not only through the implementation but the defence of this stupid "trial" and in increased fuel bills driving miles around along with extra wear and tear on their vehicles. I think my last point may be taken by the council as another good reason to keep it shut and the rest - well they just don't care. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -35

12:49am Wed 19 Mar 14

browbeaten says...

Out of towners. Top tip. Go somewhere else. York has been anti car for yonks.
Out of towners. Top tip. Go somewhere else. York has been anti car for yonks. browbeaten
  • Score: -51

7:37am Wed 19 Mar 14

mortandindi says...

Its all pretty simple really. The bridge will not reopen, why? St leonards is to become a 5 star hotel, A 5 star hotel without a car park or space to build one is a non starter. Its obvious that this corrupt council is probably taking back handers from the developers to keep the bridge closed to justify their investment, otherwise the whole project would be a non starter. there is simply no valid reason to close this bridge and the experimental period has shown this. why can't they accept they were wrong and look elsewhere for a solution. I was speaking to a traffic lighting consultant the other week who has being doing some consultancy work for the council and he stated that the traffic lighting system in York is fundamentally flawed, installed wrong and is being run by a workforce who don't know how to run the system in the first place, I suggest they start here.
Stop all this waffle about the bridge conjestion and pollution its total rubbish and all those do gooders out there know it if their being honest with themselves. its time to open the bridge without delay, have a public enquiry at this labour councils expense and find the real reason why York has been in chaos for the last six months. then vote these idiots out of office and put York on the map again.
Its all pretty simple really. The bridge will not reopen, why? St leonards is to become a 5 star hotel, A 5 star hotel without a car park or space to build one is a non starter. Its obvious that this corrupt council is probably taking back handers from the developers to keep the bridge closed to justify their investment, otherwise the whole project would be a non starter. there is simply no valid reason to close this bridge and the experimental period has shown this. why can't they accept they were wrong and look elsewhere for a solution. I was speaking to a traffic lighting consultant the other week who has being doing some consultancy work for the council and he stated that the traffic lighting system in York is fundamentally flawed, installed wrong and is being run by a workforce who don't know how to run the system in the first place, I suggest they start here. Stop all this waffle about the bridge conjestion and pollution its total rubbish and all those do gooders out there know it if their being honest with themselves. its time to open the bridge without delay, have a public enquiry at this labour councils expense and find the real reason why York has been in chaos for the last six months. then vote these idiots out of office and put York on the map again. mortandindi
  • Score: -55

7:49am Wed 19 Mar 14

sniper 9964 says...

They only shut lendal because it is near their offices. Not that many bus services go over lendal. In fact only 4 york service buses do and one P&R and tours. Majority of buses use ouse bridge.
So the next step should be keep lendal closed 7am - 7 pm and close ouse bridge the same
They only shut lendal because it is near their offices. Not that many bus services go over lendal. In fact only 4 york service buses do and one P&R and tours. Majority of buses use ouse bridge. So the next step should be keep lendal closed 7am - 7 pm and close ouse bridge the same sniper 9964
  • Score: -56

8:42am Wed 19 Mar 14

pedalling paul says...

inthesticks wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.
Paul. Read your first three words again.. This time veeeery slooowwly...
Congratulations..... you get my "Spot the Stir" medal.....

Seriously folks, there's a very poor standard of debate here. Most commentators are only concerned about the ease with which they can get around York by car today. But what of the future?

A few enlightened contributors have tried to see the bigger, long term picture, a few decades from now.

Meanwhile I wait to be enlightened by all the "experts" above, on how York is to be made a car users paradise.
[quote][p][bold]inthesticks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Keep it shut....!! York's LTP3 (3rd Local Transport Plan-every Council must have one) was signed off by the LibDems in 2010. That commits every CoYC Councillor to contribute to reducing car dependancy. We owe it to our eventual successors to continue to promote sustainable travel choices now, and avoid otherwise predicted future gridlock. "Letting traffic flow" is not an option.[/p][/quote]Paul. Read your first three words again.. This time veeeery slooowwly...[/p][/quote]Congratulations..... you get my "Spot the Stir" medal..... Seriously folks, there's a very poor standard of debate here. Most commentators are only concerned about the ease with which they can get around York by car today. But what of the future? A few enlightened contributors have tried to see the bigger, long term picture, a few decades from now. Meanwhile I wait to be enlightened by all the "experts" above, on how York is to be made a car users paradise. pedalling paul
  • Score: -14

8:49am Wed 19 Mar 14

northern belle says...

anistasia wrote:
We all know the decision is already made some months ago why would the council want to give something up that brings in so much money.if it stays closed its about time rising bollard should be used but again this will not happen because a bollard would stop cars going over the bridge hence no income.
entirely concur...IF it is proved that traffic flow (etc etc) has genuinely improved then rising bollard would be justifiable but continuing to 'sign and fine' is clearly not as tourism will inevitibly fall as will (has) our reputation as a friendly City.
[quote][p][bold]anistasia[/bold] wrote: We all know the decision is already made some months ago why would the council want to give something up that brings in so much money.if it stays closed its about time rising bollard should be used but again this will not happen because a bollard would stop cars going over the bridge hence no income.[/p][/quote]entirely concur...IF it is proved that traffic flow (etc etc) has genuinely improved then rising bollard would be justifiable but continuing to 'sign and fine' is clearly not as tourism will inevitibly fall as will (has) our reputation as a friendly City. northern belle
  • Score: 13

10:55am Wed 19 Mar 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

chelk wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them
Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head*
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them[/p][/quote]Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head* AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: -3

10:59am Wed 19 Mar 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
Agree with this.
Even if I agreed with chelk I'd vote them down. Stupid boring repetitive tabloid lowest common denominator soundbite lame.
Well there is something on a Lendal Bridge comments we can agree on. At least when Paul is stirring he does it with something like an argument and at least changes it up at a bit.
My goodness I'm now talking up Paul as well, I must go and have a lie down and have a word with myself...
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]Agree with this. Even if I agreed with chelk I'd vote them down. Stupid boring repetitive tabloid lowest common denominator soundbite lame.[/p][/quote]Well there is something on a Lendal Bridge comments we can agree on. At least when Paul is stirring he does it with something like an argument and at least changes it up at a bit. My goodness I'm now talking up Paul as well, I must go and have a lie down and have a word with myself... AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: -6

12:22pm Wed 19 Mar 14

TheTruthHurts says...

Paul is stirring he does it with something like an argument and at least changes it up at a bit.


Are you sure? As a long time reader its been the same old same old time and time again from Paul with the exception of 'gridlock within a few years' (first started popping up about 6 years ago) to 'gridlock for future generations'

And I dont think anyone is expecting York to become a car drivers paradise. It never has been and it never will. Though I dont think think that is to much to request that the council try and keep the traffic flowing whatever the mode of transport. There have been some reasonable ideas over the years to try and get people to use other forms of transport but closing Lendal bridge in this manner is not one of them.
[quote] Paul is stirring he does it with something like an argument and at least changes it up at a bit. [/quote] Are you sure? As a long time reader its been the same old same old time and time again from Paul with the exception of 'gridlock within a few years' (first started popping up about 6 years ago) to 'gridlock for future generations' And I dont think anyone is expecting York to become a car drivers paradise. It never has been and it never will. Though I dont think think that is to much to request that the council try and keep the traffic flowing whatever the mode of transport. There have been some reasonable ideas over the years to try and get people to use other forms of transport but closing Lendal bridge in this manner is not one of them. TheTruthHurts
  • Score: 13

12:52pm Wed 19 Mar 14

WhyEver says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
MAY?? Really? Even if they set on an intern 16 hours a week that would be 160 hours. A full time cabinet with the relevant skills and experience should be able to come the conclusion of "FAIL" in a morning. Never mind that they should already know.

Pretending to need so long is nothing but a pi55take. Nobody is fooled.
Exactly - the Council announced a 6 month trial, then they announce it's going to run for more than 6 months, but they will make a decision in April. Now they announce they will make a decision in May.

They could have suspended the fines during this time, or switched to issuing warnings instead - but they would rather keep penalising motorists and bringing in the cash.

What's the betting they decide it "needs more evaluation" in May?
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: MAY?? Really? Even if they set on an intern 16 hours a week that would be 160 hours. A full time cabinet with the relevant skills and experience should be able to come the conclusion of "FAIL" in a morning. Never mind that they should already know. Pretending to need so long is nothing but a pi55take. Nobody is fooled.[/p][/quote]Exactly - the Council announced a 6 month trial, then they announce it's going to run for more than 6 months, but they will make a decision in April. Now they announce they will make a decision in May. They could have suspended the fines during this time, or switched to issuing warnings instead - but they would rather keep penalising motorists and bringing in the cash. What's the betting they decide it "needs more evaluation" in May? WhyEver
  • Score: 17

3:08pm Wed 19 Mar 14

Jonothon says...

Confident prediction.
The response of the Council obsessives will be the same regardless of the final outcome.

If the bridge restrictions are ended they will say
"They got it wrong and had to admit it, I told you! "

If the restrictions continue they will say
"They got it wrong and won't admit it, I told you! "
Confident prediction. The response of the Council obsessives will be the same regardless of the final outcome. If the bridge restrictions are ended they will say "They got it wrong and had to admit it, I told you! " If the restrictions continue they will say "They got it wrong and won't admit it, I told you! " Jonothon
  • Score: 4

7:43pm Wed 19 Mar 14

RoseD says...

This closure has merely shoved the traffic to other places in town. Inevitably, those in 'favour' of it
1. don't drive
2. if they drive, don't drive through York
3. don't live in or routinely travel through the now EXTREMELY congested areas.

My little one-way street is FILLED with cars. Traffic increases at 5 pm due to the 'Ring Road' being restored as a 'ring', after-work commuting AND people delaying driving til after 5 pm. What happens when the bridge is closed 7 am to 7 pm, and the delays won't help cos the shop you want is now shut?

It does NOT add 'a few minutes', it adds 20 to even 40 mins to my one-time 1 mile 10 min journey to or from the station. Hate this town. Loathe this council. Come on, May 2015.
This closure has merely shoved the traffic to other places in town. Inevitably, those in 'favour' of it 1. don't drive 2. if they drive, don't drive through York 3. don't live in or routinely travel through the now EXTREMELY congested areas. My little one-way street is FILLED with cars. Traffic increases at 5 pm due to the 'Ring Road' being restored as a 'ring', after-work commuting AND people delaying driving til after 5 pm. What happens when the bridge is closed 7 am to 7 pm, and the delays won't help cos the shop you want is now shut? It does NOT add 'a few minutes', it adds 20 to even 40 mins to my one-time 1 mile 10 min journey to or from the station. Hate this town. Loathe this council. Come on, May 2015. RoseD
  • Score: 12

7:51pm Wed 19 Mar 14

mike.......durkin says...

i hope it stay open for good....copper will be good to...
i hope it stay open for good....copper will be good to... mike.......durkin
  • Score: 0

7:54am Thu 20 Mar 14

chelk says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them
Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head*
If you keep wanting to touch people on the head it is probably just a phase you are going through I would however suggest you seek professional help in case it turns out to be more serious.
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them[/p][/quote]Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head*[/p][/quote]If you keep wanting to touch people on the head it is probably just a phase you are going through I would however suggest you seek professional help in case it turns out to be more serious. chelk
  • Score: 2

11:53am Thu 20 Mar 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

chelk wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them
Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head*
If you keep wanting to touch people on the head it is probably just a phase you are going through I would however suggest you seek professional help in case it turns out to be more serious.
Bless... is the stress of not being able to mention muppets getting to you?
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them[/p][/quote]Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head*[/p][/quote]If you keep wanting to touch people on the head it is probably just a phase you are going through I would however suggest you seek professional help in case it turns out to be more serious.[/p][/quote]Bless... is the stress of not being able to mention muppets getting to you? AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: 0

12:00pm Thu 20 Mar 14

alanyork says...

something stupid for our COYC to remember who gave them the right to cause havoc without our permission. WE PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR EVERYTHING AND WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE ON SUCH A MAJOR DECISION. The cowardly COYC dare not let us have a DEMOCRATIC VOTE ! ! !
something stupid for our COYC to remember who gave them the right to cause havoc without our permission. WE PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR EVERYTHING AND WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE ON SUCH A MAJOR DECISION. The cowardly COYC dare not let us have a DEMOCRATIC VOTE ! ! ! alanyork
  • Score: 4

1:50pm Thu 20 Mar 14

chelk says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them
Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head*
If you keep wanting to touch people on the head it is probably just a phase you are going through I would however suggest you seek professional help in case it turns out to be more serious.
Bless... is the stress of not being able to mention muppets getting to you?
Denial is often the first sign you have a problem.
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them[/p][/quote]Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head*[/p][/quote]If you keep wanting to touch people on the head it is probably just a phase you are going through I would however suggest you seek professional help in case it turns out to be more serious.[/p][/quote]Bless... is the stress of not being able to mention muppets getting to you?[/p][/quote]Denial is often the first sign you have a problem. chelk
  • Score: 0

2:15pm Thu 20 Mar 14

pmskelton says...

It makes me laugh. Visitors say they won't come back to York because they have been caught and fined, saying there is poor signage. In every major road into York there is a sign saying Lendal bridge is restricted, and there is multiple signs near the bridge......its always the same, people get caught wrongdoing and they blame everyone else. Well my message to those visitors who do not obey the rules is "we don't want you here anyway".......
It makes me laugh. Visitors say they won't come back to York because they have been caught and fined, saying there is poor signage. In every major road into York there is a sign saying Lendal bridge is restricted, and there is multiple signs near the bridge......its always the same, people get caught wrongdoing and they blame everyone else. Well my message to those visitors who do not obey the rules is "we don't want you here anyway"....... pmskelton
  • Score: -1

5:17pm Thu 20 Mar 14

jay, york says...

alanyork wrote:
something stupid for our COYC to remember who gave them the right to cause havoc without our permission. WE PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR EVERYTHING AND WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE ON SUCH A MAJOR DECISION. The cowardly COYC dare not let us have a DEMOCRATIC VOTE ! ! !
Well said alanyork!
[quote][p][bold]alanyork[/bold] wrote: something stupid for our COYC to remember who gave them the right to cause havoc without our permission. WE PAY THROUGH THE NOSE FOR EVERYTHING AND WE SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE ON SUCH A MAJOR DECISION. The cowardly COYC dare not let us have a DEMOCRATIC VOTE ! ! ![/p][/quote]Well said alanyork! jay, york
  • Score: 5

5:19pm Thu 20 Mar 14

jay, york says...

AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote:
AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
chelk wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop
Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...
If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them
Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head*
If you keep wanting to touch people on the head it is probably just a phase you are going through I would however suggest you seek professional help in case it turns out to be more serious.
Bless... is the stress of not being able to mention muppets getting to you?
shut up both of you!
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: This lot do not listen will not admit when they are wrong so it will stay closed. Vote them out next year then the Muppet Show will stop[/p][/quote]Is it a muppet show? I don't think you told us before... Here's an idea. Why don't you put it in every single comment, that won't get old and annoying...[/p][/quote]If you read all my comments you would know that I do not always use it only when they act like Muppets please do not join them[/p][/quote]Oh you do have the ability to say something else (even if does still mention muppets) *pats chelk on the head*[/p][/quote]If you keep wanting to touch people on the head it is probably just a phase you are going through I would however suggest you seek professional help in case it turns out to be more serious.[/p][/quote]Bless... is the stress of not being able to mention muppets getting to you?[/p][/quote]shut up both of you! jay, york
  • Score: 3

6:28pm Thu 20 Mar 14

blottie says...

Someone voted this lot in,they should hang their heads in shame.Roll on 2015 and we can get rid of this corrupt council
Someone voted this lot in,they should hang their heads in shame.Roll on 2015 and we can get rid of this corrupt council blottie
  • Score: 5

4:01pm Tue 25 Mar 14

wildthing666 says...

Without doubt it will be to continue with this shambolic scam that as seen over £1 million raised for the council coffers in illegal fines on unsuspecting motorists
Without doubt it will be to continue with this shambolic scam that as seen over £1 million raised for the council coffers in illegal fines on unsuspecting motorists wildthing666
  • Score: 0

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