Tour de France set to attract 180,000 visitors to York

Tour de France set to attract 180,000 visitors to York

Tour de France set to attract 180,000 visitors to York

Updated in News York Press: Photograph of the Author by , Chief reporter

ABOUT 180,000 visitors are expected to flock to York when it hosts the Tour de France this summer.

The influx is only slightly less than the city’s entire population of 200,000 people, and City of York Council says managing the route, traffic and transport will be a priority.

A spokeswoman said that to assist with traffic and crowd management, the authority had identified four potential spectator hubs for families to watch the event on Sunday July 6 - the racecourse, designer outlet, Rowntree park/riverside and Monks Stay. The decision on the official hubs is expected by the end of March, when further details on traffic arrangements will also be announced. The racecourse will host the official start of the race in York, from which the sponsor’s parade of up to 180 vehicles will depart ahead of the racing peloton itself.

Meanwhile, the council has again signed-up to the York Sky Ride on Sunday September 14, following a successful inaugural event in 2013 which saw over 5,000 cyclists take part in the ride thgrough the city.

The council’s cabinet will be presented with an update on the city's preparation for the world’s largest cycle race at a meeting next Tuesday (4 March) Cabinet member Coun Sonja Crisp, said enthusiasm and excitement in the city about the huge event was becoming more visible every day.

She said: “Officers are working within the community and via a series of resident and business events to promote just how everyone in York can be part of not just the event weekend but the fantastic Yorkshire Festival activity in the 100 days beforehand.

“York has already benefitted from incredible positive global media attention since the race was announced and we intend to build on this in the run up to, during and after the race alongside partners, to increase York's profile as a place people want to live, work, visit and invest.”

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8:16pm Mon 24 Feb 14

CHISSY1 says...

And how much did York Council waste on paying some expert to come up with 180000.
And how much did York Council waste on paying some expert to come up with 180000. CHISSY1
  • Score: -36

8:17pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Oyy you says...

Great that's all we need, loads of Lycra clad lunatics blocking all the roads up....
Great that's all we need, loads of Lycra clad lunatics blocking all the roads up.... Oyy you
  • Score: -38

8:33pm Mon 24 Feb 14

bolero says...

I wonder how many of the 200,000 inhabitants will be vacating York during the Tour De Farce?
I wonder how many of the 200,000 inhabitants will be vacating York during the Tour De Farce? bolero
  • Score: -34

8:35pm Mon 24 Feb 14

3.8liter says...

Can anyone tell me the exact dates that this lot are in York please?
Can anyone tell me the exact dates that this lot are in York please? 3.8liter
  • Score: -36

9:09pm Mon 24 Feb 14

piemagico says...

Judging by the above (admittedly small) sample York should be a happier place over the TdF weekend.
Judging by the above (admittedly small) sample York should be a happier place over the TdF weekend. piemagico
  • Score: 11

9:28pm Mon 24 Feb 14

JHardacre says...

The Lendal Bridge money making machine will be working overtime.
The Lendal Bridge money making machine will be working overtime. JHardacre
  • Score: -26

9:58pm Mon 24 Feb 14

york_chap says...

If anyone from the council is reading this - just a heads up; despite this being a cycle race, 95% of those 180,000 visiting will arrive in (and want to get into York in) motor vehicles - not on bicycles, buses or on foot. It's how most people get from A to B out there in the real world, especially over long distances. I know that might come as a shock, but it really is true. Sorry guys.
If anyone from the council is reading this - just a heads up; despite this being a cycle race, 95% of those 180,000 visiting will arrive in (and want to get into York in) motor vehicles - not on bicycles, buses or on foot. It's how most people get from A to B out there in the real world, especially over long distances. I know that might come as a shock, but it really is true. Sorry guys. york_chap
  • Score: -23

10:42pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Igiveinthen says...

All that extra traffic doesn't bode good news for those that want to use the A64 and A1237 then, still, the thought of all those visitors in their cars going over Lendal Bridge will be giving Merrett & Co something to look forward to.
All that extra traffic doesn't bode good news for those that want to use the A64 and A1237 then, still, the thought of all those visitors in their cars going over Lendal Bridge will be giving Merrett & Co something to look forward to. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -27

11:43pm Mon 24 Feb 14

eeoodares says...

Just vote out this lot at the next election, they will try to block the bridge before the election by spending an astronomical sum....do not let them.

They have decided you are no longer allowed a vote on speed limits. If it was a third world country you would laugh at their corruption. Vote them out and keep them out for a generation.
Just vote out this lot at the next election, they will try to block the bridge before the election by spending an astronomical sum....do not let them. They have decided you are no longer allowed a vote on speed limits. If it was a third world country you would laugh at their corruption. Vote them out and keep them out for a generation. eeoodares
  • Score: -51

11:58pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Batman Begins says...

Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many!

I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish!

And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2!
Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many! I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish! And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2! Batman Begins
  • Score: 43

1:37am Tue 25 Feb 14

RingoStarr says...

Ah! The Labour Council comment hacker is back at work again!
Ah! The Labour Council comment hacker is back at work again! RingoStarr
  • Score: -11

1:41am Tue 25 Feb 14

Magicman! says...

Batman Begins wrote:
Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many!

I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish!

And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2!
Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital.
Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill.

But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion.
[quote][p][bold]Batman Begins[/bold] wrote: Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many! I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish! And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2![/p][/quote]Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital. Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill. But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion. Magicman!
  • Score: 24

1:45am Tue 25 Feb 14

Magicman! says...

Ah, I've just noticed the bit about SkyRide having been agreed to for another year... get ready for all the vitriol in the next few days
Ah, I've just noticed the bit about SkyRide having been agreed to for another year... get ready for all the vitriol in the next few days Magicman!
  • Score: 17

6:09am Tue 25 Feb 14

Caecilius says...

york_chap wrote:
If anyone from the council is reading this - just a heads up; despite this being a cycle race, 95% of those 180,000 visiting will arrive in (and want to get into York in) motor vehicles - not on bicycles, buses or on foot. It's how most people get from A to B out there in the real world, especially over long distances. I know that might come as a shock, but it really is true. Sorry guys.
And what do you suppose would happen if 171,000 people all tried to get into York by car on the same day? Bearing in mind that the roads and parking spaces can't magically expand to accommodate them. It would be a truly spectacular demonstration of the impact of unrestricted car use, and of why it has to be controlled and limited.
[quote][p][bold]york_chap[/bold] wrote: If anyone from the council is reading this - just a heads up; despite this being a cycle race, 95% of those 180,000 visiting will arrive in (and want to get into York in) motor vehicles - not on bicycles, buses or on foot. It's how most people get from A to B out there in the real world, especially over long distances. I know that might come as a shock, but it really is true. Sorry guys.[/p][/quote]And what do you suppose would happen if 171,000 people all tried to get into York by car on the same day? Bearing in mind that the roads and parking spaces can't magically expand to accommodate them. It would be a truly spectacular demonstration of the impact of unrestricted car use, and of why it has to be controlled and limited. Caecilius
  • Score: 23

6:41am Tue 25 Feb 14

Igiveinthen says...

Magicman! wrote:
Batman Begins wrote:
Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many!

I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish!

And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2!
Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital.
Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill.

But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion.
Wow, as a motorist I have to say 'it won't phase me one bit' I certainly won't be running away in the way you describe, so lets get it right, not all motorists are push bike haters, did you watch 'Inside Out' on BBC television last night, it shows what can be done to encourage people to use push bikes if the right amount of resources are spent.
I worked in Rotterdam in the 70's, and was impressed even the how many people used push bikes and also the provisions made for them.
It stands to reason that when you separate somone on a push bike from motorised vehicle traffic there are benefits to both, bikers are safer and vehicle drivers have one less problem to deal with whilst looking at the proliferation of road signs now lining our roads.
Personally I will not use my push bike on the main roads for the simpl reason I just don't think it is safe to do so.
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Batman Begins[/bold] wrote: Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many! I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish! And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2![/p][/quote]Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital. Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill. But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion.[/p][/quote]Wow, as a motorist I have to say 'it won't phase me one bit' I certainly won't be running away in the way you describe, so lets get it right, not all motorists are push bike haters, did you watch 'Inside Out' on BBC television last night, it shows what can be done to encourage people to use push bikes if the right amount of resources are spent. I worked in Rotterdam in the 70's, and was impressed even the how many people used push bikes and also the provisions made for them. It stands to reason that when you separate somone on a push bike from motorised vehicle traffic there are benefits to both, bikers are safer and vehicle drivers have one less problem to deal with whilst looking at the proliferation of road signs now lining our roads. Personally I will not use my push bike on the main roads for the simpl reason I just don't think it is safe to do so. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -11

6:47am Tue 25 Feb 14

Igiveinthen says...

Caecilius wrote:
york_chap wrote:
If anyone from the council is reading this - just a heads up; despite this being a cycle race, 95% of those 180,000 visiting will arrive in (and want to get into York in) motor vehicles - not on bicycles, buses or on foot. It's how most people get from A to B out there in the real world, especially over long distances. I know that might come as a shock, but it really is true. Sorry guys.
And what do you suppose would happen if 171,000 people all tried to get into York by car on the same day? Bearing in mind that the roads and parking spaces can't magically expand to accommodate them. It would be a truly spectacular demonstration of the impact of unrestricted car use, and of why it has to be controlled and limited.
No it doesn't have to be controlled and limited, if money was spent on increasing road space on he outskirts of the city i.e. the A1237 as glaring example, then traffic levels would fall in the city.
Don't ever think that you can limit car use by making it difficult to drive, all you will cause is more congestion in other parts of the city, as he Lendal Bridge fiasco has shown.
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]york_chap[/bold] wrote: If anyone from the council is reading this - just a heads up; despite this being a cycle race, 95% of those 180,000 visiting will arrive in (and want to get into York in) motor vehicles - not on bicycles, buses or on foot. It's how most people get from A to B out there in the real world, especially over long distances. I know that might come as a shock, but it really is true. Sorry guys.[/p][/quote]And what do you suppose would happen if 171,000 people all tried to get into York by car on the same day? Bearing in mind that the roads and parking spaces can't magically expand to accommodate them. It would be a truly spectacular demonstration of the impact of unrestricted car use, and of why it has to be controlled and limited.[/p][/quote]No it doesn't have to be controlled and limited, if money was spent on increasing road space on he outskirts of the city i.e. the A1237 as glaring example, then traffic levels would fall in the city. Don't ever think that you can limit car use by making it difficult to drive, all you will cause is more congestion in other parts of the city, as he Lendal Bridge fiasco has shown. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -13

7:15am Tue 25 Feb 14

Kroythrundthru says...

More flaming bikes! Just what we don't need! Hope they keep in their BYKE Lanes !!! "
More flaming bikes! Just what we don't need! Hope they keep in their BYKE Lanes !!! " Kroythrundthru
  • Score: -18

7:49am Tue 25 Feb 14

mortandindi says...

If the Tour de France is a total waste of money which it is, and I don't believe the stupid claims of the council of "what it will bring to York" then the **** skyride is worse. It should be called the "ride from nowhere to nowhere" it blocks up the roads for no reason at all. Why not have this event at Elvington Airfield where these fools can ride round in circles to their hearts content out of the way of people trying to go about their day to day business.
If the Tour de France is a total waste of money which it is, and I don't believe the stupid claims of the council of "what it will bring to York" then the **** skyride is worse. It should be called the "ride from nowhere to nowhere" it blocks up the roads for no reason at all. Why not have this event at Elvington Airfield where these fools can ride round in circles to their hearts content out of the way of people trying to go about their day to day business. mortandindi
  • Score: -38

7:50am Tue 25 Feb 14

chelk says...

See the Moronic Manipulator of the scores has struck again they do not like freedom of speech
See the Moronic Manipulator of the scores has struck again they do not like freedom of speech chelk
  • Score: -39

8:57am Tue 25 Feb 14

DEKKA says...

It's amazing the number of people who know nothing about cycling know so much about the economics of the the sport.
It's amazing the number of people who know nothing about cycling know so much about the economics of the the sport. DEKKA
  • Score: 10

9:36am Tue 25 Feb 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

Magicman! wrote:
Batman Begins wrote:
Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many!

I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish!

And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2!
Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital.
Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill.

But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion.
Cyclists accusing the average car user of being foaming at the mouth, maybe they should re-define irony in the dictionary.

NEWS FLASH! The average car driver is just that, an average person driving a car using to go from a place they need to go to another place they need to go, usually further then they can cycle....

As opposed to having to listen to have how all cars are evil, they should be purged from the road, bikes shou.....
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Batman Begins[/bold] wrote: Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many! I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish! And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2![/p][/quote]Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital. Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill. But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion.[/p][/quote]Cyclists accusing the average car user of being foaming at the mouth, maybe they should re-define irony in the dictionary. NEWS FLASH! The average car driver is just that, an average person driving a car using to go from a place they need to go to another place they need to go, usually further then they can cycle.... As opposed to having to listen to have how all cars are evil, they should be purged from the road, bikes shou..... AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: 9

9:43am Tue 25 Feb 14

AGuyFromStrensall says...

Interrupted by bike zealot collapsing foaming at the mouth into a bike fuelled self love in...

(I am genuinely perplexed why there isn't a POV that they can step back and try to look at a more neutral wide view instead of insisting that two wheels good, four wheels bad...)
Interrupted by bike zealot collapsing foaming at the mouth into a bike fuelled self love in... (I am genuinely perplexed why there isn't a POV that they can step back and try to look at a more neutral wide view instead of insisting that two wheels good, four wheels bad...) AGuyFromStrensall
  • Score: 3

9:54am Tue 25 Feb 14

roskoboskovic says...

as per usual a very small percentage of people will benefit from this influx and the residents will get nowt.no doubt ycc will spout fancy figures about how so many millions of pounds will come into the economy yet not one penny will be passed on.even with this massive increase in income we still get a council tax increase.i wonder how many functions and buckshee dinners alexander and his cronies will attend this year connected to the tdf yet the less well of in york have to tighten their belts even more.
as per usual a very small percentage of people will benefit from this influx and the residents will get nowt.no doubt ycc will spout fancy figures about how so many millions of pounds will come into the economy yet not one penny will be passed on.even with this massive increase in income we still get a council tax increase.i wonder how many functions and buckshee dinners alexander and his cronies will attend this year connected to the tdf yet the less well of in york have to tighten their belts even more. roskoboskovic
  • Score: 4

11:04am Tue 25 Feb 14

Dr Brian says...

I wonder if the hotels and guest houses will be pricing themselves out of the market like they did when Royal Ascot came to York so everybody went elsewhere and commuted into York for the races?

Roads will be shut hours before so I doubt many of these 180,000 people will get anywhere near York and the race spectators will find viewing areas all over the route rather than face the snarl of traffic in York.

Yes there will be lots of people watching, mostly York people who won't be able to get out of the city because of road closures.

Some highly paid agency will come up with a figure that will claim the race will bring in x million pounds for the local economy - when we all know it won't. Don't get me wrong I am pleased we will see the Tour in York but it will not be the massive magnet for tourists and extra money that we are being told it is going to be.
I wonder if the hotels and guest houses will be pricing themselves out of the market like they did when Royal Ascot came to York so everybody went elsewhere and commuted into York for the races? Roads will be shut hours before so I doubt many of these 180,000 people will get anywhere near York and the race spectators will find viewing areas all over the route rather than face the snarl of traffic in York. Yes there will be lots of people watching, mostly York people who won't be able to get out of the city because of road closures. Some highly paid agency will come up with a figure that will claim the race will bring in x million pounds for the local economy - when we all know it won't. Don't get me wrong I am pleased we will see the Tour in York but it will not be the massive magnet for tourists and extra money that we are being told it is going to be. Dr Brian
  • Score: 4

11:04am Tue 25 Feb 14

Dr Brian says...

I wonder if the hotels and guest houses will be pricing themselves out of the market like they did when Royal Ascot came to York so everybody went elsewhere and commuted into York for the races?

Roads will be shut hours before so I doubt many of these 180,000 people will get anywhere near York and the race spectators will find viewing areas all over the route rather than face the snarl of traffic in York.

Yes there will be lots of people watching, mostly York people who won't be able to get out of the city because of road closures.

Some highly paid agency will come up with a figure that will claim the race will bring in x million pounds for the local economy - when we all know it won't. Don't get me wrong I am pleased we will see the Tour in York but it will not be the massive magnet for tourists and extra money that we are being told it is going to be.
I wonder if the hotels and guest houses will be pricing themselves out of the market like they did when Royal Ascot came to York so everybody went elsewhere and commuted into York for the races? Roads will be shut hours before so I doubt many of these 180,000 people will get anywhere near York and the race spectators will find viewing areas all over the route rather than face the snarl of traffic in York. Yes there will be lots of people watching, mostly York people who won't be able to get out of the city because of road closures. Some highly paid agency will come up with a figure that will claim the race will bring in x million pounds for the local economy - when we all know it won't. Don't get me wrong I am pleased we will see the Tour in York but it will not be the massive magnet for tourists and extra money that we are being told it is going to be. Dr Brian
  • Score: 3

11:09am Tue 25 Feb 14

again says...

chelk wrote:
See the Moronic Manipulator of the scores has struck again they do not like freedom of speech
Not at all, we just don't like what you say. Whilst defending your right to say it, provide it doesn't preach hate.
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: See the Moronic Manipulator of the scores has struck again they do not like freedom of speech[/p][/quote]Not at all, we just don't like what you say. Whilst defending your right to say it, provide it doesn't preach hate. again
  • Score: 1

4:04pm Tue 25 Feb 14

Sillybillies says...

It will cost York dear because our usual tourists who spend money here will be put off coming for at least a week either side of the event, and those who do come are likely to be cycling peasants who camp, bring sandwiches, buy nothing then leave. It will be a disaster financially for York and the surrounding areas.
It will cost York dear because our usual tourists who spend money here will be put off coming for at least a week either side of the event, and those who do come are likely to be cycling peasants who camp, bring sandwiches, buy nothing then leave. It will be a disaster financially for York and the surrounding areas. Sillybillies
  • Score: -1

12:48am Thu 27 Feb 14

Magicman! says...

Igiveinthen wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
Batman Begins wrote:
Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many!

I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish!

And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2!
Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital.
Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill.

But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion.
Wow, as a motorist I have to say 'it won't phase me one bit' I certainly won't be running away in the way you describe, so lets get it right, not all motorists are push bike haters, did you watch 'Inside Out' on BBC television last night, it shows what can be done to encourage people to use push bikes if the right amount of resources are spent.
I worked in Rotterdam in the 70's, and was impressed even the how many people used push bikes and also the provisions made for them.
It stands to reason that when you separate somone on a push bike from motorised vehicle traffic there are benefits to both, bikers are safer and vehicle drivers have one less problem to deal with whilst looking at the proliferation of road signs now lining our roads.
Personally I will not use my push bike on the main roads for the simpl reason I just don't think it is safe to do so.
To be honest I agree with the principle of that... I think that where possible, main roads should have physically seperate bike lanes - but that are not part of the pavement. An example in the Eastlands area of Manchester is good one, as the cycle lane is seperated from the road by means of double-lined kerbstones. The bike lane is wide enough for one cyclists to overtake another (providing the slow cyclist isn't wobbling around all over the place), and because it's seperate from the road there is no worry of a car passing too close. Compare that to York Road in Haxby where the cycle lane is actually more narrow than the width of a bicycle, that actually encourages people to drive closer to cycles and overtake them at quicker speeds than on a road of the same width and type but without painted on cycle lanes.
[quote][p][bold]Igiveinthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Batman Begins[/bold] wrote: Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many! I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish! And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2![/p][/quote]Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital. Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill. But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion.[/p][/quote]Wow, as a motorist I have to say 'it won't phase me one bit' I certainly won't be running away in the way you describe, so lets get it right, not all motorists are push bike haters, did you watch 'Inside Out' on BBC television last night, it shows what can be done to encourage people to use push bikes if the right amount of resources are spent. I worked in Rotterdam in the 70's, and was impressed even the how many people used push bikes and also the provisions made for them. It stands to reason that when you separate somone on a push bike from motorised vehicle traffic there are benefits to both, bikers are safer and vehicle drivers have one less problem to deal with whilst looking at the proliferation of road signs now lining our roads. Personally I will not use my push bike on the main roads for the simpl reason I just don't think it is safe to do so.[/p][/quote]To be honest I agree with the principle of that... I think that where possible, main roads should have physically seperate bike lanes - but that are not part of the pavement. An example in the Eastlands area of Manchester is good one, as the cycle lane is seperated from the road by means of double-lined kerbstones. The bike lane is wide enough for one cyclists to overtake another (providing the slow cyclist isn't wobbling around all over the place), and because it's seperate from the road there is no worry of a car passing too close. Compare that to York Road in Haxby where the cycle lane is actually more narrow than the width of a bicycle, that actually encourages people to drive closer to cycles and overtake them at quicker speeds than on a road of the same width and type but without painted on cycle lanes. Magicman!
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AGuyFromStrensall wrote:
Magicman! wrote:
Batman Begins wrote:
Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many!

I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish!

And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2!
Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital.
Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill.

But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion.
Cyclists accusing the average car user of being foaming at the mouth, maybe they should re-define irony in the dictionary.

NEWS FLASH! The average car driver is just that, an average person driving a car using to go from a place they need to go to another place they need to go, usually further then they can cycle....

As opposed to having to listen to have how all cars are evil, they should be purged from the road, bikes shou.....
I am not accusing ALL drivers being like that. If you read how I've writeen the comment, I am referring to those who come on these pages and have a severe hatred any any cyclists being on what they see as "their" roads.... an example being "mortandindi" with their vitriol about the skyride and cyclists, almost rising to the occasion when I stated "get ready for the vitriol" about the skyride. It is people like that who have a "foaming at the mouth" rabid fever against cyclists, and who are utterly intolerant.
[quote][p][bold]AGuyFromStrensall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Batman Begins[/bold] wrote: Don’t Panic, I doubt there will be anything like that many! I’m a cycle racing fan, even done a bit in my time, obviously not an expert like Paul Hepworth of course! But, anybody who knows anything about professional cycle racing will know, they don’t start racing until about 5km after they have set off. The majority of fans will be on the route waiting for them to go past, or waiting patiently at Sheffield for them to finish! And please Press, stop calling it the Grand Depart, that’s on day 1, in Leeds, York is just the start of Stage 2![/p][/quote]Indeed... here in the county of Leedshire, the big cycling race will set off in the financial capital. Personally, IF I decide to go and watch the race go by, it'll be a few miles out somewhere whene I can get a good view from somewhere elevated; or otherwise get the train to sheffield and then head out to a nearby hill. But I don't know if I will head out of York... afterall, all of the cyclist haters will have evacuated the city for the day, the though of "their" city being full of "lycra louts" using "the roads I pay for with my road tax" driving them into a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid fit, leading to them running out of the city as if they're Tom Cruise in some action movie running away from a big explosion.[/p][/quote]Cyclists accusing the average car user of being foaming at the mouth, maybe they should re-define irony in the dictionary. NEWS FLASH! The average car driver is just that, an average person driving a car using to go from a place they need to go to another place they need to go, usually further then they can cycle.... As opposed to having to listen to have how all cars are evil, they should be purged from the road, bikes shou.....[/p][/quote]I am not accusing ALL drivers being like that. If you read how I've writeen the comment, I am referring to those who come on these pages and have a severe hatred any any cyclists being on what they see as "their" roads.... an example being "mortandindi" with their vitriol about the skyride and cyclists, almost rising to the occasion when I stated "get ready for the vitriol" about the skyride. It is people like that who have a "foaming at the mouth" rabid fever against cyclists, and who are utterly intolerant. Magicman!
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