1.9pc council tax rise planned for York as 240 jobs face axe

York Press: City of York Council leader Coun James Alexander and cabinet member Coun Tracey Simpson-Laing at a budget briefing, held at West Offices City of York Council leader Coun James Alexander and cabinet member Coun Tracey Simpson-Laing at a budget briefing, held at West Offices

* Tax increase would help pay for adult care, say city leaders.

* But Government referendum decision could force rethink or people's vote.

* 120 jobs set to go in 2014/15, another 120 the year after.

* Free Minster Badges set to be replaced with £20 parking passes.

* Park&Ride concessionary fares could rise; Theatre Royal and museums face funding cut.

* £2.3 million for roads and paths schemes; £2.5 million more for adult social care; £100K more to help struggling residents.

* It's our toughest challenge yet, says chief executive.

 

COUNCIL tax bills in York could rise by 1.9 per cent next year and 240 council jobs are set to be axed over two years, under budget plans revealed by city leaders.

City of York Council has unveiled its proposals for saving £10.74 million in 2014/15 and £12.65 million the year after, with its final budget being decided at a meeting on February 27.

The proposed council tax increase will depend on the level at which the Government sets a "trigger-point" for how much local authorities can raise bills by without needing a referendum. This is set to be announced next week. City leaders have said a referendum in York would cost about £300,000.

The job cuts mean, by the end of 2015/16, the council will have shed about 750 positions since 2007/08, more than a quarter of its workforce. 120 jobs are expected to be lost in 2014/15 and about the same number the following year, with £284,000 being saved by axing or not filling senior management positions.

Under the proposals, changes to parking are set to see Minster Badges - which are free for residents and offer discounted daytime parking and free parking after 6pm - replaced with a new "regular user discount pass", which may cost £20 through biannual fees and bring £200,000 of extra income into the council. The Labour-controlled authority said this was an alternative to across-the-board increases in parking charges, with some parking spaces potentially being sold to businesses to raise £50,000.

Weekly charges for elderly people's homes are likely to rise by three per cent to raise £38,000 with the council planning to cut spending on children's respite care by £50,000 but saying it would not affect its availability. Day care for supported-living customers will reduce to save £29,000.

Concessionary fares on Park&Ride services are set to rise by 20p in 2014/15 and a further 10p the year after - with a £100,000 saving expected from a review of the overall concessionary fares system - and the operational budget for nine children's centres in the city will be cut by £30,000 next year. York Theatre Royal and York Museums Trust are set to see their council subsidies fall by £70,000 and £100,000 respectively, with £200,000 being cut from the authority's libraries budget and £140,000 from the community centres budget over two years.

The council said it would put an extra £2.5 million into adult social care next year and dedicate £2.3 million from its capital budget to improving roads and footpaths - although its revenue budget for highways will be reduced by £100,000 - with an announcement being made shortly about how money raised through fines from the controversial Lendal Bridge trial will be used for transport improvements.

The Museums Trust will also get £1.5 million from the capital budget for its development programme in the St Mary's Abbey area and for work on Exhibition Square. £2.4 million will be spent on modernising council houses, while pay-on-exit parking - which city-centre traders have called for - is set to be launched at Marygate car park in April.

Money will also be spent on improving "worn-out" streetlights, children's play areas and skate parks, repairing damaged bins and more alleygates. The War Memorial at Memorial Gardens will be repaired at a cost of £40,000 and the council will contribute £200,000 towards a new building at Huntington School, while a further £100,000 will be invested into the authority's Financial Assistance Scheme to provide support for residents who are struggling financially and £50,000 will go towards business rate discounts.

"By 2016, we will have delivered savings of £74 million since 2010/11, and by 2019/20 adult care costs are expected to account for 50 per cent of the council's net budget," said the authority's chief executive, Kersten England.

"The impact of these cumulative cuts and cost pressures cannot be underestimated. We've worked to protect frontline services for as long as possible for residents and, by comparison with other authorities, we have managed to maintain most of the services we provide through efficiencies and back-office and management reductions.

"However, we - and all of local government - are now facing our biggest challenge yet when it comes to deciding whether we can continue to deliver certain services and, if we do, how we can deliver them."

The £12.65 million in savings earmarked for 2015/16 include £5.4 million through the council's "transformation programme", Re-wiring Public Services, which it says will give residents more influence in decisions and how services are provided.

Council leader James Alexander said the proposed council tax rise would equate to an average of 37p a week for each resident and would pay for about half the increase in adult social care costs in 2014/15. He said accepting a "freeze grant" from the Government would mean £560,000 of extra savings having to be found, and the uncertainty over a council tax referendum made it "very hard for the council to plan its future finances".

He said he could "understand the concept of a referendum" on council tax levels, saying: "It's about asking people to decide, but I would like to know where the referendum is on the national budget, on bedroom tax, on income tax.

"All of us, across party lines, had hoped that, by now, the scale of Government cuts to local services would be reducing dramatically - this is not what is happening and it is becoming more difficult.

"It was with heavy hearts that we learned the Government's cuts for York are actually getting larger while the north is hit harder than the south. We will make realistic, responsible decisions in this budget round, despite how tough the choices are."

Coun Alexander said all council services had been reviewed and said: "As the cuts not only mount up year on year, but actually get larger, nobody can promise funding will be there for all these services indefinitely.

"My priority is to protect services, not undermine them. It is a mark of a civilised society that we treat our elderly residents and those with physical or learning difficulties as we would like to be treated. It's a promise we make to our future selves, but with rising demand, increasing numbers of complex cases and falling budgets, it's a promise we might not always be able to keep. We need to take a fundamental look at how our services work to make sure they deliver value for money and residents can continue to rely on them.

"We haven't ducked any of the big challenges facing the city so far and this will be no exception. The challenges we face are growing every year. We have listended closely to what residents have told us about services for the vulnerable, about roads and about the need to prioritise, and we remain determined to secure the future York residents deserve by making the right decisions now in the long-term interest of the city." 

He said Minster Badges had not changed since the scheme was launched 25 years ago, meaning some non-York residents still had them, and the new passes would still allow cheap parking for a "small fee". He said: "We can no longer afford for non-residents to ride free on this scheme."

The proposals said an extra £40,000 would have to be saved in the council's highways services department, after changes to its winter maintenance programme - which saw gritting routes downgraded and salt bins withdrawn - did not meet their £60,000 savings target. The council said the extra money from roads would mainly come from "income generation".

Standard parking permit prices will be frozen but other Respark fees will be reviewed and could rise by five per cent. Food safety inspections may be outsourced to save £18,000, "one-off" savings of £120,000 will have to made at Yearsley Swimming Pool and Energise leisure centre because of delays in finding a private firm to run them, and the council will reduce its contribution to Fulford Cemetery by £10,000.

Meanwhile, £50,000 could be raised through more CCTV enforcement of bus lanes in 2014/15 and more automatic number-plate recognition cameras may also be introduced in 2015/16, which is tipped to raise £100,000.

The council said it was carrying out a complete review of how its £32 million West Offices HQ operates and is looking to cut the bill for running the building by £295,000 last year, which could include outsourcing cleaning and security services. It wants to raise an extra £30,000 through more "commercial use" of the Mansion House.

 

Opposition parties give their views on budget plans

CONSERVATIVE group leader Coun Chris Steward said the proposals were "as predictable as they are regrettable" and criticised Labour's plans not to freeze council tax and accept a Government grant.

The grant for pegging or reducing bills next year is equivalent to one per cent of 2013/14 council tax, which council leader James Alexander described as a "con" and said it would leave the authority having to make more savings. The council has also turned down similar grants in previous years, choosing to raise tax instead.

"They have cynically hiked it by as much as they can without having to let people have their say in a referendum," said Coun Steward, referring to the current expectation that the 'trigger point' for a residents' vote on council tax levels will be a proposed two per cent rise, although reports suggest it could be lowered to 1.5 per cent with the decision due to be announced next week.

"The savings contain no mention of the Arts Barge, allowances for Labour councillors or the vast expense of signage for 20mph areas. Instead, they are hitting basic services. Given the farce of the Lendal Bridge closure and the resulting fines, it will be viewed as a sad irony that the council is looking to increase its income even more from enforcement cameras and that one of the few perks for residents - the cheaper parking badge - is to go.

"There are many true savings which we welcome - including the outsourcing of some services which will provide better value - but generally this is again a budget York's residents will suffer in."

Coun Keith Aspden, who leads the Liberal Democrat group, said: "This budget shows Labour's priorities are all wrong and they are still not listening to local people.

"It is wrong to turn down a £750,000 Government freeze grant and raise council tax. It is wrong to remove frontline jobs while appointing highly-paid new managers. And it is wrong to cut basic services and increase charges for residents while wasting millions on city-centre vanity projects." 

Green councillor Dave Taylor said: "It is miserable to see a Labour authority putting more hardworking council employees out of work, as well as hacking services and raising charges, but we do recognise that these are cuts imposed by the Conservative-Liberal Democrat Government.

"We would urge Labour to think more creatively and ditch the ludicrously expensive waste incinerator at Allerton and seek a cheaper solution based on reduction, reuse and recycling, as our financial projections would make these cuts far less damaging to the people of York and our council employees."

 

Disappointed but we'll protect York's arts reputation, says theatre boss

FOLLOWING the news that York Theatre Royal faces losing a large chunk of its council funding next year, its chief executive Liz Wilson said: "We have been aware of the decison to make a further cut of £70,000 to the council's investment for some time.

"It would be disingenuous not to say we are very disappointed about this decision. We are, of course, very aware of the difficulties our local authority is facing through cuts from central Government. The council is in an unenviable position.

"We have been working with the council, both with officers and members, to find ways to reduce the impact of this cut so that York Theatre Royal can continue to serve its community. We believe the people of York have the right to have affordable access to a high-quality cultural programme, as in any other city, and the theatre will work hard with the council and its wider community to ensure the great city of York keeps its reputation for world-class arts.

"York Theatre Royal is on course to raise £4 million to completely refurbish the theatre, upgrading all the public areas, transforming the auditorium and creating a new food and drinks venue in the city. The council is supporting this work and it shares York Theatre Royal's desire to continue to make the theatre more financially secure into the future. The theatre receives investment from both the Arts Council and City of York Council, but the biggest investment is from the general public through ticket sales.

"From 2014/15, for every £1 invested by the council, the theatre will put back £15 into the local economy. This will be one of the highest returns of any theatre in the country. The council appreciates the work York Theatre Royal brings to the city and we will continue to work alongside the local authority on getting the best value for our community."

A spokesman for York Museums Trust, which is set for a £100,000 funding cut in 2014/15, said: "We have known about this for some time and we are working on our 2014/15 budget accordingly."

 

 

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12:03pm Mon 3 Feb 14

meme says...

A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did?
I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,
A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!, meme

12:18pm Mon 3 Feb 14

marvell says...

Due to political point scoring to try and embarrass the government this clueless Labour administration keep putting up Council Tax and hitting residents in their pockets whilst they have the option NOT to do so - as offered by the government. Many other councils have taken this approach and put the needs of residents above petty political agenda's.

I'm no lover of this government but when you have a local Labour led council that are as wasteful as they've been with the likes of 20mph schemes (brought in by Cllr Semlyen who is a paid employee of a national 20mph pressure group!!!!) and Kings Square vandalism - costing over £1 million combined then you have to question their competence....
Due to political point scoring to try and embarrass the government this clueless Labour administration keep putting up Council Tax and hitting residents in their pockets whilst they have the option NOT to do so - as offered by the government. Many other councils have taken this approach and put the needs of residents above petty political agenda's. I'm no lover of this government but when you have a local Labour led council that are as wasteful as they've been with the likes of 20mph schemes (brought in by Cllr Semlyen who is a paid employee of a national 20mph pressure group!!!!) and Kings Square vandalism - costing over £1 million combined then you have to question their competence.... marvell

12:20pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Knavesmire view says...

A referendum would also actually mean they would be bound by the wishes of the electorate that they have been ignoring ever since they came into power.

If I thought they were spending my council tax appropriately I wouldn't have a problem, but they don't listen and spend it on their pet projects instead.

Roll on 2015.
A referendum would also actually mean they would be bound by the wishes of the electorate that they have been ignoring ever since they came into power. If I thought they were spending my council tax appropriately I wouldn't have a problem, but they don't listen and spend it on their pet projects instead. Roll on 2015. Knavesmire view

12:36pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ZachCohen says...

This is announced on the same day city of York council keep tweeting about their plans to spend money on making duncombe place and fossgate more aesthetically pleasing for tourists.
This is announced on the same day city of York council keep tweeting about their plans to spend money on making duncombe place and fossgate more aesthetically pleasing for tourists. ZachCohen

12:51pm Mon 3 Feb 14

BL2 says...

Just to pick on one section of this (after the free parking weekend)

Under the proposals, changes to parking would see Minster Badges replaced with a new "regular user discount pass", which may cost £20 and would bring £200,000 of extra income into the council. The authority said this was an alternative to across-the-board increases in parking charges, with some parking spaces potentially being sold to businesses to raise £50,000.


All this after the government has basically said that it is illegal to use car parking charges as a means to make money for the council? So are running costs really going up by that much then?
Just to pick on one section of this (after the free parking weekend) [quote]Under the proposals, changes to parking would see Minster Badges replaced with a new "regular user discount pass", which may cost £20 and would bring £200,000 of extra income into the council. The authority said this was an alternative to across-the-board increases in parking charges, with some parking spaces potentially being sold to businesses to raise £50,000. [/quote] All this after the government has basically said that it is illegal to use car parking charges as a means to make money for the council? So are running costs really going up by that much then? BL2

1:04pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

the way they come up with the figures reminds me of that tv show storage hunters... complete guesses and when they fail to generate such cash we will need to sub them again...

they are a disgrace other companies have independent investigations as to why they are not meeting targets and i'd suggest that if this was undertaken at city of York council then there would be a lot of home truths about how much we are actually wasting on peoples pet projects. Surly to meet 100k target by putting cctv reg plate recognition in they would need to evaluate cost value reconciliation? i.e the cctv cameras themselves are expensive to buy, install and run!
the way they come up with the figures reminds me of that tv show storage hunters... complete guesses and when they fail to generate such cash we will need to sub them again... they are a disgrace other companies have independent investigations as to why they are not meeting targets and i'd suggest that if this was undertaken at city of York council then there would be a lot of home truths about how much we are actually wasting on peoples pet projects. Surly to meet 100k target by putting cctv reg plate recognition in they would need to evaluate cost value reconciliation? i.e the cctv cameras themselves are expensive to buy, install and run! Archiebold the 1st

1:09pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Alf Garnett says...

All this because of irresponsible capitalist whizz kids who thought that money could be generated from the ether and put into their pockets for for ever and ever. Who picks up the bill ? No prizes for giving the right answer.
All this because of irresponsible capitalist whizz kids who thought that money could be generated from the ether and put into their pockets for for ever and ever. Who picks up the bill ? No prizes for giving the right answer. Alf Garnett

1:24pm Mon 3 Feb 14

CaroleBaines says...

Cuts to respite care and the elderly. But nationally we cut higher rate tax and let the bankers off scot free. Locally we persist with silly 20mph zones which are not enforceable. Nationally and locally, why the hell do we keep voting these idiots in and thinking well at least its 'better than the other lot'? No - wake up - we deserve better from all our politicians, they are a total shower.
Cuts to respite care and the elderly. But nationally we cut higher rate tax and let the bankers off scot free. Locally we persist with silly 20mph zones which are not enforceable. Nationally and locally, why the hell do we keep voting these idiots in and thinking well at least its 'better than the other lot'? No - wake up - we deserve better from all our politicians, they are a total shower. CaroleBaines

1:30pm Mon 3 Feb 14

CaroleBaines says...

meme wrote:
A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did?
I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,
Erm...look at the services which have closed during the last few years, nurseries, mental health provision, Care in the Community programs, Community centres, 365 day a year respite services, adult education programs, etc and then ask yourself again what the other 25% did.

Shakes head in disbelief.
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,[/p][/quote]Erm...look at the services which have closed during the last few years, nurseries, mental health provision, Care in the Community programs, Community centres, 365 day a year respite services, adult education programs, etc and then ask yourself again what the other 25% did. Shakes head in disbelief. CaroleBaines

1:39pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Zetkin says...

meme wrote:
A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,
It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably.

I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill.

Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,[/p][/quote]It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably. I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill. Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives. Zetkin

2:24pm Mon 3 Feb 14

piaggio1 says...

And another point...why do I keep seeing york city council vans out howden/ barmby ont marsh way.???
And another point...why do I keep seeing york city council vans out howden/ barmby ont marsh way.??? piaggio1

2:54pm Mon 3 Feb 14

bjb says...

'Meanwhile, £50,000 could be raised through more CCTV enforcement of bus lanes in 2014/15 and more automatic number-plate recognition cameras may also be introduced in 2015/16, which is tipped to raise £100,000.'

So the 'Lendal Bridge and Coppergate' restrictions were to improve traffic flow and not generate income for the council were they? The above say's it all. I wonder what else they can dream up to catch motorists and further increase income!
'Meanwhile, £50,000 could be raised through more CCTV enforcement of bus lanes in 2014/15 and more automatic number-plate recognition cameras may also be introduced in 2015/16, which is tipped to raise £100,000.' So the 'Lendal Bridge and Coppergate' restrictions were to improve traffic flow and not generate income for the council were they? The above say's it all. I wonder what else they can dream up to catch motorists and further increase income! bjb

2:56pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sounds weird but says...

Zetkin wrote:
meme wrote: A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,
It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably. I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill. Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.
This seems to ring true for the NHS too. Just put more pressure on the front line staff and have an ever rotating line of leavers, long term sickeness and new staff.
[quote][p][bold]Zetkin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,[/p][/quote]It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably. I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill. Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.[/p][/quote]This seems to ring true for the NHS too. Just put more pressure on the front line staff and have an ever rotating line of leavers, long term sickeness and new staff. sounds weird but

3:07pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

piaggio1 wrote:
And another point...why do I keep seeing york city council vans out howden/ barmby ont marsh way.???
Get used to it. When we are part of the West Yorkshire Combined Communist Authority, our vans will be seen in Bradford, Leeds, Kirklees, Wakefield and Calderdale too.

A national survey of insolvencies in Loca Authority areas from 2001/02 to 2009/10 had Kirklees in the top five six times, Bradford five times, and Leeds three times. You can see where the £4m a year York has to pay for it's membership will be going - to subsidise the debts etc of these under-performing Authorities.

York is being sold down the swanee by Labour. Get Alexander and England out !
[quote][p][bold]piaggio1[/bold] wrote: And another point...why do I keep seeing york city council vans out howden/ barmby ont marsh way.???[/p][/quote]Get used to it. When we are part of the West Yorkshire Combined Communist Authority, our vans will be seen in Bradford, Leeds, Kirklees, Wakefield and Calderdale too. A national survey of insolvencies in Loca Authority areas from 2001/02 to 2009/10 had Kirklees in the top five six times, Bradford five times, and Leeds three times. You can see where the £4m a year York has to pay for it's membership will be going - to subsidise the debts etc of these under-performing Authorities. York is being sold down the swanee by Labour. Get Alexander and England out ! Rocking Horse

3:09pm Mon 3 Feb 14

chelk says...

Would cost about £300,000 for a referendum not as much as it has cost for this lots vanity projects. Hit the residents again replace the residents parking badge then charge for it, do not have to pay at Monks Cross they must want all shoppers to use out of town stores. Notice the ordinary workers lose their jobs about time we got rid of some of the managers and councillors or cut their wages. Wait until the Moron who adjusts the scores sees the comments posted we will all be on minus. The Muppet Shows rolls ever onward.
Would cost about £300,000 for a referendum not as much as it has cost for this lots vanity projects. Hit the residents again replace the residents parking badge then charge for it, do not have to pay at Monks Cross they must want all shoppers to use out of town stores. Notice the ordinary workers lose their jobs about time we got rid of some of the managers and councillors or cut their wages. Wait until the Moron who adjusts the scores sees the comments posted we will all be on minus. The Muppet Shows rolls ever onward. chelk

3:10pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Bo Jolly says...

"Meanwhile, £50,000 could be raised through more CCTV enforcement of bus lanes in 2014/15 and more automatic number-plate recognition cameras may also be introduced in 2015/16, which is tipped to raise £100,000."

Basically an outright admission that the only purpose of such schemes is revenue raising... Will the receipts from these proposed schemes also disappear into the ether like the money raised by the Lendal bridge trap, sorry, 'trial'?
"Meanwhile, £50,000 could be raised through more CCTV enforcement of bus lanes in 2014/15 and more automatic number-plate recognition cameras may also be introduced in 2015/16, which is tipped to raise £100,000." Basically an outright admission that the only purpose of such schemes is revenue raising... Will the receipts from these proposed schemes also disappear into the ether like the money raised by the Lendal bridge trap, sorry, 'trial'? Bo Jolly

3:18pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

As a record, before the Council's score hacker gets his tea break to wreak havoc.

The first three comments scores at the moment are:-

Meme : +55
Marvell : +74
Knavesmire View : +57
As a record, before the Council's score hacker gets his tea break to wreak havoc. The first three comments scores at the moment are:- Meme : +55 Marvell : +74 Knavesmire View : +57 Rocking Horse

3:31pm Mon 3 Feb 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

chalk:
Wait until the Moron who adjusts the scores sees the comments posted we will all be on minus. The Muppet Shows rolls ever onward.

All starts after the Vince Cable visit to York (16th December 2013).

Happens mostly overnight, so consider which business types see a benefit from the councils actions, work night shifts and may have direct or indirect contracts which maybe transport related.
chalk: Wait until the Moron who adjusts the scores sees the comments posted we will all be on minus. The Muppet Shows rolls ever onward. All starts after the Vince Cable visit to York (16th December 2013). Happens mostly overnight, so consider which business types see a benefit from the councils actions, work night shifts and may have direct or indirect contracts which maybe transport related. YOUWILLDOASISAY

3:46pm Mon 3 Feb 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

I'm totally up for a referendum and don't share the degree of uncertainty expressed by James Alexander.

£300.000 would be and investment in my opinion, money well spent to send a clear and precise message to an administration that is out of control.
I'm totally up for a referendum and don't share the degree of uncertainty expressed by James Alexander. £300.000 would be and investment in my opinion, money well spent to send a clear and precise message to an administration that is out of control. YOUWILLDOASISAY

4:03pm Mon 3 Feb 14

mjgyork says...

bjb wrote:
'Meanwhile, £50,000 could be raised through more CCTV enforcement of bus lanes in 2014/15 and more automatic number-plate recognition cameras may also be introduced in 2015/16, which is tipped to raise £100,000.'

So the 'Lendal Bridge and Coppergate' restrictions were to improve traffic flow and not generate income for the council were they? The above say's it all. I wonder what else they can dream up to catch motorists and further increase income!
To say that the last York administration had a transport policy would be a corruption of the term policy. The reason that the toryvoters do not like the idea of Lendal bridge closure is because they did not think of it. (That they have in common with their counterparts in Westminster and the Health Service). No amount of "mouse clicking" can change history, much as they might want it to be so.
[quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: 'Meanwhile, £50,000 could be raised through more CCTV enforcement of bus lanes in 2014/15 and more automatic number-plate recognition cameras may also be introduced in 2015/16, which is tipped to raise £100,000.' So the 'Lendal Bridge and Coppergate' restrictions were to improve traffic flow and not generate income for the council were they? The above say's it all. I wonder what else they can dream up to catch motorists and further increase income![/p][/quote]To say that the last York administration had a transport policy would be a corruption of the term policy. The reason that the toryvoters do not like the idea of Lendal bridge closure is because they did not think of it. (That they have in common with their counterparts in Westminster and the Health Service). No amount of "mouse clicking" can change history, much as they might want it to be so. mjgyork

4:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Kelvar says...

Quote from Alexander: "We have listended closely to what residents have told us about services for the vulnerable, about roads and about the need to prioritise, and we remain determined to secure the future York residents deserve by making the right decisions now in the long-term interest of the city." (copied & Paste!)


1) YOU have NOT listened to the majority of Residents at all

2) Don't go too 'Long Term' because you and your cronies will be out at the next CYC Election

(York Press - you NEED a new Proof Reader!)
Quote from Alexander: "We have listended closely to what residents have told us about services for the vulnerable, about roads and about the need to prioritise, and we remain determined to secure the future York residents deserve by making the right decisions now in the long-term interest of the city." (copied & Paste!) 1) YOU have NOT listened to the majority of Residents at all 2) Don't go too 'Long Term' because you and your cronies will be out at the next CYC Election (York Press - you NEED a new Proof Reader!) Kelvar

4:14pm Mon 3 Feb 14

wildthing666 says...

ZachCohen wrote:
This is announced on the same day city of York council keep tweeting about their plans to spend money on making duncombe place and fossgate more aesthetically pleasing for tourists.
A done deal on a thing that was dependent on the closure of Lendal bridge full time for specific hours of the day
[quote][p][bold]ZachCohen[/bold] wrote: This is announced on the same day city of York council keep tweeting about their plans to spend money on making duncombe place and fossgate more aesthetically pleasing for tourists.[/p][/quote]A done deal on a thing that was dependent on the closure of Lendal bridge full time for specific hours of the day wildthing666

4:19pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Can't all be wrong says...

bjb wrote:
'Meanwhile, £50,000 could be raised through more CCTV enforcement of bus lanes in 2014/15 and more automatic number-plate recognition cameras may also be introduced in 2015/16, which is tipped to raise £100,000.'

So the 'Lendal Bridge and Coppergate' restrictions were to improve traffic flow and not generate income for the council were they? The above say's it all. I wonder what else they can dream up to catch motorists and further increase income!
Maybe a few more "free parking days" to encourage more and more motorists to become unwitting donors to YCC now that James has publicly stated that motorists are a revenue stream!
All seems slightly hypocritical. Sorry P.P, but it looks as though the car has a very bright future in York after all, why else would they invest in all the revenue generating hardware other wise?
[quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: 'Meanwhile, £50,000 could be raised through more CCTV enforcement of bus lanes in 2014/15 and more automatic number-plate recognition cameras may also be introduced in 2015/16, which is tipped to raise £100,000.' So the 'Lendal Bridge and Coppergate' restrictions were to improve traffic flow and not generate income for the council were they? The above say's it all. I wonder what else they can dream up to catch motorists and further increase income![/p][/quote]Maybe a few more "free parking days" to encourage more and more motorists to become unwitting donors to YCC now that James has publicly stated that motorists are a revenue stream! All seems slightly hypocritical. Sorry P.P, but it looks as though the car has a very bright future in York after all, why else would they invest in all the revenue generating hardware other wise? Can't all be wrong

4:20pm Mon 3 Feb 14

roskoboskovic says...

for as many years as i can remember,and i m in my mid 50 s,the local residents,dog walkers and allotment users have had to trudge through a muddy broken path to access the stray through kilburn rd/fishergate stray allotments.because of ongoing electricity cable laying the students have been using this as their access to the university.after 2 WEEKS contractors are laying a new tarmacadam path and yet alexander and his band of fools say we need a council tax rise to fund road and path repairs.heslington lane was resurfaced last year into heslington,the cyclists got a new path across the moor which gets cleared of ice and snow whilst our streets stay iced over for weeks.please mr alexander why do you treat us residents with such utter contempt and why do you kow tow to the university.
for as many years as i can remember,and i m in my mid 50 s,the local residents,dog walkers and allotment users have had to trudge through a muddy broken path to access the stray through kilburn rd/fishergate stray allotments.because of ongoing electricity cable laying the students have been using this as their access to the university.after 2 WEEKS contractors are laying a new tarmacadam path and yet alexander and his band of fools say we need a council tax rise to fund road and path repairs.heslington lane was resurfaced last year into heslington,the cyclists got a new path across the moor which gets cleared of ice and snow whilst our streets stay iced over for weeks.please mr alexander why do you treat us residents with such utter contempt and why do you kow tow to the university. roskoboskovic

4:29pm Mon 3 Feb 14

MarkyMarkMark says...

"He said Minster Badges had not changed since the scheme was launched 25 years ago, meaning some non-York residents still had them, and the new passes would still allow cheap parking for a "small fee". He said: "We can no longer afford for non-residents to ride free on this scheme.""

So issue new badges. (My badge changed from red to blue quite some time back, but I know you can't transfer them between cars very easily anyway - they stick properly to the screen, now. And you can't tell me the parking attendants couldn't check the address where a car is registered to or against a list of badges issued anyway.) Charge a reasonable fee for the badge (as a one off fee). Probably £5 is bearable. Charging me £20 every year to have a badge that offers me a pretty pathetic discount in the daytime, and allows me to use the under-utilised (empty) car parking in the evening, otherwise I'll just park on the single yellow lines for free anyway and walk the slight extra distance. All an annual fee will do is further alienate the occasional car using city residents. (There won't be a need for an "Alexander Out" campaign by 2015 - his supporters seem to be getting further and fewer apart.)

Or they could offer "brownie point" parking badges for people who usually cycle or walk, to encourage trade and vitality in the city, like last weekend ..... ;-)

Overall, it feels like the priorities are wrong. Increasing charges for elderly residential care, further decreasing spending on social care generally, whilst still carrying on with what are beginning to look like work being carried out simply to get up people's noses, because "they" can. That list includes 20 MPH limits, city centre "improvements" like King's Sq and Exhibition Sq., investing more in public transport subsidies to benefit First, not the passengers ..... the list goes on. Change for change's sake, not to fix something broken or that needed improving.

I think I'm now well and truly cheesed off by partisan politics of any kind. It's too simplistic just to keep blaming someone else - what we need are some independent leaders, willing to make hard choices but also willing to say enough is enough.

If it doesn't have a measurable social or financial return to the city, don't do it at all. If not doing it will cost the city, then put it on the list for when we can afford it. A bit like running a household or a business, really.
"He said Minster Badges had not changed since the scheme was launched 25 years ago, meaning some non-York residents still had them, and the new passes would still allow cheap parking for a "small fee". He said: "We can no longer afford for non-residents to ride free on this scheme."" So issue new badges. (My badge changed from red to blue quite some time back, but I know you can't transfer them between cars very easily anyway - they stick properly to the screen, now. And you can't tell me the parking attendants couldn't check the address where a car is registered to or against a list of badges issued anyway.) Charge a reasonable fee for the badge (as a one off fee). Probably £5 is bearable. Charging me £20 every year to have a badge that offers me a pretty pathetic discount in the daytime, and allows me to use the under-utilised (empty) car parking in the evening, otherwise I'll just park on the single yellow lines for free anyway and walk the slight extra distance. All an annual fee will do is further alienate the occasional car using city residents. (There won't be a need for an "Alexander Out" campaign by 2015 - his supporters seem to be getting further and fewer apart.) Or they could offer "brownie point" parking badges for people who usually cycle or walk, to encourage trade and vitality in the city, like last weekend ..... ;-) Overall, it feels like the priorities are wrong. Increasing charges for elderly residential care, further decreasing spending on social care generally, whilst still carrying on with what are beginning to look like work being carried out simply to get up people's noses, because "they" can. That list includes 20 MPH limits, city centre "improvements" like King's Sq and Exhibition Sq., investing more in public transport subsidies to benefit First, not the passengers ..... the list goes on. Change for change's sake, not to fix something broken or that needed improving. I think I'm now well and truly cheesed off by partisan politics of any kind. It's too simplistic just to keep blaming someone else - what we need are some independent leaders, willing to make hard choices but also willing to say enough is enough. If it doesn't have a measurable social or financial return to the city, don't do it at all. If not doing it will cost the city, then put it on the list for when we can afford it. A bit like running a household or a business, really. MarkyMarkMark

4:36pm Mon 3 Feb 14

york100 says...

Looks like another attack on motorists by this car-loathing authority. And what's happened to the money saved through reduced road gritting during this mild winter?
Looks like another attack on motorists by this car-loathing authority. And what's happened to the money saved through reduced road gritting during this mild winter? york100

4:54pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
As a record, before the Council's score hacker gets his tea break to wreak havoc. The first three comments scores at the moment are:- Meme : +55 Marvell : +74 Knavesmire View : +57
Latest Scores:

Meme : +67
Marvell : +89
Knavesmire View : +72

Council hacker soon leaving work, so look out for him starting his 'night shift' !!!
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: As a record, before the Council's score hacker gets his tea break to wreak havoc. The first three comments scores at the moment are:- Meme : +55 Marvell : +74 Knavesmire View : +57[/p][/quote]Latest Scores: Meme : +67 Marvell : +89 Knavesmire View : +72 Council hacker soon leaving work, so look out for him starting his 'night shift' !!! Rocking Horse

5:02pm Mon 3 Feb 14

mjgyork says...

york100 wrote:
Looks like another attack on motorists by this car-loathing authority. And what's happened to the money saved through reduced road gritting during this mild winter?
Replace the Minster with a mutistorey car park. By selling off bits of it in plastic bags( like the Berlin Wall) it would be self financing. Have the HS2 rerouted through York. At least that would be a policy. And the toryvoter mouse clickers and those who think that the car should dominate every council consideration would be in favour.! And think of the money it would save off your rates!
[quote][p][bold]york100[/bold] wrote: Looks like another attack on motorists by this car-loathing authority. And what's happened to the money saved through reduced road gritting during this mild winter?[/p][/quote]Replace the Minster with a mutistorey car park. By selling off bits of it in plastic bags( like the Berlin Wall) it would be self financing. Have the HS2 rerouted through York. At least that would be a policy. And the toryvoter mouse clickers and those who think that the car should dominate every council consideration would be in favour.! And think of the money it would save off your rates! mjgyork

5:03pm Mon 3 Feb 14

geoff tibletts says...

Rocking Horse wrote:
Rocking Horse wrote:
As a record, before the Council's score hacker gets his tea break to wreak havoc. The first three comments scores at the moment are:- Meme : +55 Marvell : +74 Knavesmire View : +57
Latest Scores:

Meme : +67
Marvell : +89
Knavesmire View : +72

Council hacker soon leaving work, so look out for him starting his 'night shift' !!!
Who is the sad nutcase?
[quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rocking Horse[/bold] wrote: As a record, before the Council's score hacker gets his tea break to wreak havoc. The first three comments scores at the moment are:- Meme : +55 Marvell : +74 Knavesmire View : +57[/p][/quote]Latest Scores: Meme : +67 Marvell : +89 Knavesmire View : +72 Council hacker soon leaving work, so look out for him starting his 'night shift' !!![/p][/quote]Who is the sad nutcase? geoff tibletts

5:34pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ouseswimmer says...

When the recession began a lot of private companies faced similar cuts. They spoke with their staff and deals were done whereby staff took pay cuts in order to keep jobs. I see absolutely no one in the Council with a highly paid job offering to take a pay cut in order to keep down redundancies. Surely a Labour led council should be doing this at the very least or do they simply not care?
When the recession began a lot of private companies faced similar cuts. They spoke with their staff and deals were done whereby staff took pay cuts in order to keep jobs. I see absolutely no one in the Council with a highly paid job offering to take a pay cut in order to keep down redundancies. Surely a Labour led council should be doing this at the very least or do they simply not care? ouseswimmer

5:42pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Woody G Mellor says...

Well, at least this will obviously mean that they will not be rolling our the 20's plenty waste of money........... Doesn't it?
Well, at least this will obviously mean that they will not be rolling our the 20's plenty waste of money........... Doesn't it? Woody G Mellor

6:11pm Mon 3 Feb 14

courier46 says...

There is only 4 jobs on the council I want to see go,and they will in 2015.On second thoughts there are a lot of over paid people on the council as well,so maybe 20? 30? should go now.Including the 4 (we know who)
There is only 4 jobs on the council I want to see go,and they will in 2015.On second thoughts there are a lot of over paid people on the council as well,so maybe 20? 30? should go now.Including the 4 (we know who) courier46

6:38pm Mon 3 Feb 14

ReginaldBiscuit says...

Surely the most sensible thing to do is enforce salary cuts on those who earn the most? Who needs over 50k to live yet the council funds a number of positions over that threshold.
Surely the most sensible thing to do is enforce salary cuts on those who earn the most? Who needs over 50k to live yet the council funds a number of positions over that threshold. ReginaldBiscuit

7:19pm Mon 3 Feb 14

again says...

meme wrote:
A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did?
I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,
Did you fail to notice that services have also been cut as well as the staff?

We live in a country that is built on debt because it no longer pays its way in the world.

The so-called 'economic recovery' is a smoke and mirrors exercise that will last until the next election. Don't be fooled by it, not that your vote will make the slightest difference (that includes the quackery that is UKIP).
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,[/p][/quote]Did you fail to notice that services have also been cut as well as the staff? We live in a country that is built on debt because it no longer pays its way in the world. The so-called 'economic recovery' is a smoke and mirrors exercise that will last until the next election. Don't be fooled by it, not that your vote will make the slightest difference (that includes the quackery that is UKIP). again

7:20pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Happytoliveinyork says...

Frittering money away on countless vanity schemes while further dissuading residents to visit the city centre by charging £20 for residents badges. Monks Cross must be rubbing their hands with joy!

Hope our glorious leaders enjoy their last year and a bit in power.
Frittering money away on countless vanity schemes while further dissuading residents to visit the city centre by charging £20 for residents badges. Monks Cross must be rubbing their hands with joy! Hope our glorious leaders enjoy their last year and a bit in power. Happytoliveinyork

7:38pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Zetkin wrote:
meme wrote:
A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,
It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably.

I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill.

Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.
I am curious Zetkin, you come across in your other comments as being a socialist or t least left of centre yet you plan to hold both the Tory/Liberal government and the Labour council "to account"? How will that work? Will you have a Labour government and a Tory or Liberal council?
[quote][p][bold]Zetkin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,[/p][/quote]It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably. I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill. Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.[/p][/quote]I am curious Zetkin, you come across in your other comments as being a socialist or t least left of centre yet you plan to hold both the Tory/Liberal government and the Labour council "to account"? How will that work? Will you have a Labour government and a Tory or Liberal council? Pinza-C55

7:43pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Happytoliveinyork says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
Zetkin wrote:
meme wrote:
A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,
It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably.

I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill.

Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.
I am curious Zetkin, you come across in your other comments as being a socialist or t least left of centre yet you plan to hold both the Tory/Liberal government and the Labour council "to account"? How will that work? Will you have a Labour government and a Tory or Liberal council?
A labour government and non labour COYC sounds good to me!
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zetkin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,[/p][/quote]It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably. I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill. Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.[/p][/quote]I am curious Zetkin, you come across in your other comments as being a socialist or t least left of centre yet you plan to hold both the Tory/Liberal government and the Labour council "to account"? How will that work? Will you have a Labour government and a Tory or Liberal council?[/p][/quote]A labour government and non labour COYC sounds good to me! Happytoliveinyork

7:48pm Mon 3 Feb 14

CRWPROJ says...

The council need to stop spending money on vanity projects and pointless traffic control changes. Priority should always be given to core services when allocating budgets. The council employees must understand that the money raised by the community charge is not to be used to 'set themselves up in business' and charge York residents for the services they have already paid for. Nor should the revenue be spent on 'enforcement gadgets' to leech off motorists and visitors. That is disgraceful.
My personal opinion is that refuse treatment and disposal should be removed from council control and provided as a separate 'utility'. Technical expertise has always been lacking in the public sector and the farce associated with the Allerton Incinerator enforces my opinion.
The council need to stop spending money on vanity projects and pointless traffic control changes. Priority should always be given to core services when allocating budgets. The council employees must understand that the money raised by the community charge is not to be used to 'set themselves up in business' and charge York residents for the services they have already paid for. Nor should the revenue be spent on 'enforcement gadgets' to leech off motorists and visitors. That is disgraceful. My personal opinion is that refuse treatment and disposal should be removed from council control and provided as a separate 'utility'. Technical expertise has always been lacking in the public sector and the farce associated with the Allerton Incinerator enforces my opinion. CRWPROJ

8:05pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Buzzz Light-year says...

roskoboskovic wrote:
for as many years as i can remember,and i m in my mid 50 s,the local residents,dog walkers and allotment users have had to trudge through a muddy broken path to access the stray through kilburn rd/fishergate stray allotments.because of ongoing electricity cable laying the students have been using this as their access to the university.after 2 WEEKS contractors are laying a new tarmacadam path and yet alexander and his band of fools say we need a council tax rise to fund road and path repairs.heslington lane was resurfaced last year into heslington,the cyclists got a new path across the moor which gets cleared of ice and snow whilst our streets stay iced over for weeks.please mr alexander why do you treat us residents with such utter contempt and why do you kow tow to the university.
I've not been using this site as much as usual as I've grown tired of the constant personal backbiting, ridiculous hyperbole, idiotic extremist political rants and out-and-out lies and fantasy.
I sometimes wonder whether The Press are embarrassed about their core readership's intellectual capacity and mental state. Then I remember they are in Bradford and don't really give a monkey's.

Anyway, ignoring the stupid Jim Jong-Un and Marxist cabal hyperbole, the above quoted comment is typical of the "make stuff up to suit your rant" stylee.
for as many years as i can remember,and i m in my mid 50 s,the local residents,dog walkers and allotment users have had to trudge through a muddy broken path to access the stray through kilburn rd/fishergate stray allotments

And students.
They haven't just started using it in the last two weeks because of those works, they've always used it to get to Hillards/ Jacksons/ now Sainsburys/ Fishergate/ town.
because of ongoing electricity cable laying the students have been using this as their access to the university

Nope. See above.
Why lie? Or is it blinkers? It's rant-applicable blinkers, isn't it?
after 2 WEEKS contractors are laying a new tarmacadam path and yet alexander and his band of fools...

The allotment secretaries have been trying to get this done for years. You really think James Alexander has authorised it to pander to students? After two weeks?
Cuckoo!
Fantasyland.
.heslington lane was resurfaced last year into heslington

Yes and well overdue. It was one of the worst roads in York. A nightmare to ride a bike on.
You DO know that there are residents in Heslington? And that residents use that stretch as a corridor between the Hull road and Fulford etc?
It's not limited to students. How many students have cars and drive there regularly? Very low percentage.
Um..... Golf Club?
the cyclists got a new path across the moor which gets cleared of ice and snow whilst our streets stay iced

No it doesn't get cleared of ice and snow. Fact. From bitter experience. Ouch!
please mr alexander why do you treat us residents with such utter contempt and why do you kow tow to the university.

If your fantasy is true, I would imagine it's because the university is probably the strongest business in our city at the moment, what with having the capital to expand and spend whilst everyone else is laying off, going into administration and failing.

roskoboskovic's comment is one of the most idiotic comments I've seen here for a while and I wish it was atypical, alas it's par for the course.

Axe. Grind. Agenda. Campaign. Fantasy. Kneejerk. Rant. Hate. Prejudice. Idiocy.
Not in that order.
[quote][p][bold]roskoboskovic[/bold] wrote: for as many years as i can remember,and i m in my mid 50 s,the local residents,dog walkers and allotment users have had to trudge through a muddy broken path to access the stray through kilburn rd/fishergate stray allotments.because of ongoing electricity cable laying the students have been using this as their access to the university.after 2 WEEKS contractors are laying a new tarmacadam path and yet alexander and his band of fools say we need a council tax rise to fund road and path repairs.heslington lane was resurfaced last year into heslington,the cyclists got a new path across the moor which gets cleared of ice and snow whilst our streets stay iced over for weeks.please mr alexander why do you treat us residents with such utter contempt and why do you kow tow to the university.[/p][/quote]I've not been using this site as much as usual as I've grown tired of the constant personal backbiting, ridiculous hyperbole, idiotic extremist political rants and out-and-out lies and fantasy. I sometimes wonder whether The Press are embarrassed about their core readership's intellectual capacity and mental state. Then I remember they are in Bradford and don't really give a monkey's. Anyway, ignoring the stupid Jim Jong-Un and Marxist cabal hyperbole, the above quoted comment is typical of the "make stuff up to suit your rant" stylee. [quote]for as many years as i can remember,and i m in my mid 50 s,the local residents,dog walkers and allotment users have had to trudge through a muddy broken path to access the stray through kilburn rd/fishergate stray allotments[/quote] And students. They haven't just started using it in the last two weeks because of those works, they've always used it to get to Hillards/ Jacksons/ now Sainsburys/ Fishergate/ town. [quote]because of ongoing electricity cable laying the students have been using this as their access to the university[/quote] Nope. See above. Why lie? Or is it blinkers? It's rant-applicable blinkers, isn't it? [quote]after 2 WEEKS contractors are laying a new tarmacadam path and yet alexander and his band of fools...[/quote] The allotment secretaries have been trying to get this done for years. You really think James Alexander has authorised it to pander to students? After two weeks? Cuckoo! Fantasyland. [quote].heslington lane was resurfaced last year into heslington[/quote] Yes and well overdue. It was one of the worst roads in York. A nightmare to ride a bike on. You DO know that there are residents in Heslington? And that residents use that stretch as a corridor between the Hull road and Fulford etc? It's not limited to students. How many students have cars and drive there regularly? Very low percentage. Um..... Golf Club? [quote]the cyclists got a new path across the moor which gets cleared of ice and snow whilst our streets stay iced[/quote] No it doesn't get cleared of ice and snow. Fact. From bitter experience. Ouch! [quote]please mr alexander why do you treat us residents with such utter contempt and why do you kow tow to the university.[/quote] If your fantasy is true, I would imagine it's because the university is probably the strongest business in our city at the moment, what with having the capital to expand and spend whilst everyone else is laying off, going into administration and failing. roskoboskovic's comment is one of the most idiotic comments I've seen here for a while and I wish it was atypical, alas it's par for the course. Axe. Grind. Agenda. Campaign. Fantasy. Kneejerk. Rant. Hate. Prejudice. Idiocy. Not in that order. Buzzz Light-year

8:07pm Mon 3 Feb 14

geoff tibletts says...

The vote rigging fairy has started again.every time people disagree with this shambles of a council.bring on the next local elections
The vote rigging fairy has started again.every time people disagree with this shambles of a council.bring on the next local elections geoff tibletts

8:16pm Mon 3 Feb 14

York1234 says...

Hang on

CYC created an ****. director post for the current Head of Comms team which comes with a HEAFTY pay rise but wouldn't advertise this externally - to cut down on the competition?

Then when the Head of Economic Development gets an offer from York Uni they create a new role increasing salary to 70k from 50k.

BUT I have to pay more in council tax when they cut cut CUT services I might actually want and push us into a ridiculous international agenda - putting York onto a global stage. WHY?

And the pet projects. The 400k being spent on SCY over two years when the benefits of the project were not identified at the outset.

This council is flawed - councillors and officers - and WE are all paying for it. We are fools.
Hang on CYC created an ****. director post for the current Head of Comms team which comes with a HEAFTY pay rise but wouldn't advertise this externally - to cut down on the competition? Then when the Head of Economic Development gets an offer from York Uni they create a new role increasing salary to 70k from 50k. BUT I have to pay more in council tax when they cut cut CUT services I might actually want and push us into a ridiculous international agenda - putting York onto a global stage. WHY? And the pet projects. The 400k being spent on SCY over two years when the benefits of the project were not identified at the outset. This council is flawed - councillors and officers - and WE are all paying for it. We are fools. York1234

8:46pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Pinza-C55 says...

Happytoliveinyork wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Zetkin wrote:
meme wrote:
A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,
It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably.

I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill.

Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.
I am curious Zetkin, you come across in your other comments as being a socialist or t least left of centre yet you plan to hold both the Tory/Liberal government and the Labour council "to account"? How will that work? Will you have a Labour government and a Tory or Liberal council?
A labour government and non labour COYC sounds good to me!
"non Labour" sounds like a bit of a copout. Do you mean Liberal, as in the council presided over by Andrew Waller, who flattened the swimming pool at the Barbican and put in hand the plans for the Hungate offices which fell through and cost £1 million to no avail? Then started the plans for the vastly expensive council offices, leading to the vacation of St Leonard's Place which is still standing empty 11 months later? The council which wasted huge amounts of money on the FTR? That council?
Or the Tories, a microcosm of the people we have in power at a national level?
[quote][p][bold]Happytoliveinyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zetkin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,[/p][/quote]It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably. I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill. Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.[/p][/quote]I am curious Zetkin, you come across in your other comments as being a socialist or t least left of centre yet you plan to hold both the Tory/Liberal government and the Labour council "to account"? How will that work? Will you have a Labour government and a Tory or Liberal council?[/p][/quote]A labour government and non labour COYC sounds good to me![/p][/quote]"non Labour" sounds like a bit of a copout. Do you mean Liberal, as in the council presided over by Andrew Waller, who flattened the swimming pool at the Barbican and put in hand the plans for the Hungate offices which fell through and cost £1 million to no avail? Then started the plans for the vastly expensive council offices, leading to the vacation of St Leonard's Place which is still standing empty 11 months later? The council which wasted huge amounts of money on the FTR? That council? Or the Tories, a microcosm of the people we have in power at a national level? Pinza-C55

8:59pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sheps lad says...

Chelsea are 1-0 up at half time. There is a world out there!
Chelsea are 1-0 up at half time. There is a world out there! sheps lad

9:34pm Mon 3 Feb 14

livewithit says...

Totally fed up with this council
Totally fed up with sore on this site,

Get rid of both
Totally fed up with this council Totally fed up with sore on this site, Get rid of both livewithit

9:40pm Mon 3 Feb 14

pedalling paul says...

We've heard what "residents want" ie a city free from restrictions on private car use. Unfortunately all Councillors, regardless of their politics, also receive guidance from their Officers, which reflects that coming from Whitehall. If you want to precipitate gridlock much sooner rather than predicted, lets give it a go.......... I'll whizz past you all on my bike, for some journeys. Oh and by the way don't assume that I'm anti-car. Like fire and friction it is a good servant. (I've just made a 200 mile car journey today.) But it can also be a bad master, eg when increasing numbers of car owners try to access urban roads at peak times. We can't cater for that indefinitely...can we.
We've heard what "residents want" ie a city free from restrictions on private car use. Unfortunately all Councillors, regardless of their politics, also receive guidance from their Officers, which reflects that coming from Whitehall. If you want to precipitate gridlock much sooner rather than predicted, lets give it a go.......... I'll whizz past you all on my bike, for some journeys. Oh and by the way don't assume that I'm anti-car. Like fire and friction it is a good servant. (I've just made a 200 mile car journey today.) But it can also be a bad master, eg when increasing numbers of car owners try to access urban roads at peak times. We can't cater for that indefinitely...can we. pedalling paul

9:58pm Mon 3 Feb 14

sheps lad says...

pedalling paul wrote:
We've heard what "residents want" ie a city free from restrictions on private car use. Unfortunately all Councillors, regardless of their politics, also receive guidance from their Officers, which reflects that coming from Whitehall. If you want to precipitate gridlock much sooner rather than predicted, lets give it a go.......... I'll whizz past you all on my bike, for some journeys. Oh and by the way don't assume that I'm anti-car. Like fire and friction it is a good servant. (I've just made a 200 mile car journey today.) But it can also be a bad master, eg when increasing numbers of car owners try to access urban roads at peak times. We can't cater for that indefinitely...can we.
Pity is was a return journey!
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: We've heard what "residents want" ie a city free from restrictions on private car use. Unfortunately all Councillors, regardless of their politics, also receive guidance from their Officers, which reflects that coming from Whitehall. If you want to precipitate gridlock much sooner rather than predicted, lets give it a go.......... I'll whizz past you all on my bike, for some journeys. Oh and by the way don't assume that I'm anti-car. Like fire and friction it is a good servant. (I've just made a 200 mile car journey today.) But it can also be a bad master, eg when increasing numbers of car owners try to access urban roads at peak times. We can't cater for that indefinitely...can we.[/p][/quote]Pity is was a return journey! sheps lad

10:53pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Happytoliveinyork says...

Pinza-C55 wrote:
Happytoliveinyork wrote:
Pinza-C55 wrote:
Zetkin wrote:
meme wrote:
A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,
It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably.

I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill.

Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.
I am curious Zetkin, you come across in your other comments as being a socialist or t least left of centre yet you plan to hold both the Tory/Liberal government and the Labour council "to account"? How will that work? Will you have a Labour government and a Tory or Liberal council?
A labour government and non labour COYC sounds good to me!
"non Labour" sounds like a bit of a copout. Do you mean Liberal, as in the council presided over by Andrew Waller, who flattened the swimming pool at the Barbican and put in hand the plans for the Hungate offices which fell through and cost £1 million to no avail? Then started the plans for the vastly expensive council offices, leading to the vacation of St Leonard's Place which is still standing empty 11 months later? The council which wasted huge amounts of money on the FTR? That council?
Or the Tories, a microcosm of the people we have in power at a national level?
Yes - it's like voting for the least bad - I've voted labour all my life but the arrogance and huge amount of cash spend on vanity projects by this lot mean I can never vote for them next time round in COYC elections. I suspect many york residents feel the same.
[quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Happytoliveinyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Pinza-C55[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Zetkin[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: A quarter of the workforce yet they still function tolerably! Makes you think about what 25% actually did? I feel sorry for those who lost jobs as I think it should be the higher paid 'directors 'who should be culled or at least be made accountable for their mistakes ie sacked when they get it wrong!,[/p][/quote]It's questionable whether many council services are functioning tolerably. I'm extremely glad I don't work for the council, because many acquaintances who do, seem to me to be doing two or three people's jobs for less pay than before. This can only end in a huge increase in stress-related illnesses as our services stagger towarads collapse, but not before we hear council bosses complaining about staff sickness levels and implementing ever more draconian sanctions against workers who have the temerity to become ill. Roll on 2015 indeed, when we can hold both the Tory/Liberal government, and the Labour council to account for their respective parts in destroying our services and blighting workers' lives.[/p][/quote]I am curious Zetkin, you come across in your other comments as being a socialist or t least left of centre yet you plan to hold both the Tory/Liberal government and the Labour council "to account"? How will that work? Will you have a Labour government and a Tory or Liberal council?[/p][/quote]A labour government and non labour COYC sounds good to me![/p][/quote]"non Labour" sounds like a bit of a copout. Do you mean Liberal, as in the council presided over by Andrew Waller, who flattened the swimming pool at the Barbican and put in hand the plans for the Hungate offices which fell through and cost £1 million to no avail? Then started the plans for the vastly expensive council offices, leading to the vacation of St Leonard's Place which is still standing empty 11 months later? The council which wasted huge amounts of money on the FTR? That council? Or the Tories, a microcosm of the people we have in power at a national level?[/p][/quote]Yes - it's like voting for the least bad - I've voted labour all my life but the arrogance and huge amount of cash spend on vanity projects by this lot mean I can never vote for them next time round in COYC elections. I suspect many york residents feel the same. Happytoliveinyork

11:34pm Mon 3 Feb 14

hustler says...

York Press. Can I suggest (if you even read and monitor these comments), that you either abolish the +/- scores, or have some way of preventing the abuse and manipulation which occurs in the comments facilities in many articles / letters (but especially those concerning Y.C.C.). Clearly, there is significant manipulation going on through hacking or other means, and these "popularity votes" bring nothing of any use or relevance to the debate, except for further ill-feeling.
York Press. Can I suggest (if you even read and monitor these comments), that you either abolish the +/- scores, or have some way of preventing the abuse and manipulation which occurs in the comments facilities in many articles / letters (but especially those concerning Y.C.C.). Clearly, there is significant manipulation going on through hacking or other means, and these "popularity votes" bring nothing of any use or relevance to the debate, except for further ill-feeling. hustler

12:01am Tue 4 Feb 14

Ichabod76 says...

hustler wrote:
York Press. Can I suggest (if you even read and monitor these comments), that you either abolish the +/- scores, or have some way of preventing the abuse and manipulation which occurs in the comments facilities in many articles / letters (but especially those concerning Y.C.C.). Clearly, there is significant manipulation going on through hacking or other means, and these "popularity votes" bring nothing of any use or relevance to the debate, except for further ill-feeling.
In 26 mins you have received -36 votes !
[quote][p][bold]hustler[/bold] wrote: York Press. Can I suggest (if you even read and monitor these comments), that you either abolish the +/- scores, or have some way of preventing the abuse and manipulation which occurs in the comments facilities in many articles / letters (but especially those concerning Y.C.C.). Clearly, there is significant manipulation going on through hacking or other means, and these "popularity votes" bring nothing of any use or relevance to the debate, except for further ill-feeling.[/p][/quote]In 26 mins you have received -36 votes ! Ichabod76

3:18am Tue 4 Feb 14

Orion Stars says...

Every time ( them ) have a new budget plan we find the words cut and axe jobs , step by step reducing the number of council's working force ,,,,, by means of logic we will not be astound when we wake up one day to find out that the councillors have axed themselves too !
Every time ( them ) have a new budget plan we find the words cut and axe jobs , step by step reducing the number of council's working force ,,,,, by means of logic we will not be astound when we wake up one day to find out that the councillors have axed themselves too ! Orion Stars

7:20am Tue 4 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

bet they still find some money to give some executive officer a pay rise or 2???
our council is run by a corrupt party!
bet they still find some money to give some executive officer a pay rise or 2??? our council is run by a corrupt party! oi oi savaloy

7:49am Tue 4 Feb 14

pedalling paul says...

Let' s see how many Councillors suddenly begin to court the car users vote inthe run up to 2015. Tempting for them isn't it. But that urban motoring nirvana will never happen, so why bother?
Let' s see how many Councillors suddenly begin to court the car users vote inthe run up to 2015. Tempting for them isn't it. But that urban motoring nirvana will never happen, so why bother? pedalling paul

8:14am Tue 4 Feb 14

nowthen says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Let' s see how many Councillors suddenly begin to court the car users vote inthe run up to 2015. Tempting for them isn't it. But that urban motoring nirvana will never happen, so why bother?
PP put this on at 07:49 hrs ; at 08:08 hrs it had 132 thumbs up score ! speaks volumes doesn't it ? PRESS !!!!! SORT IT OUT !!!!!
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Let' s see how many Councillors suddenly begin to court the car users vote inthe run up to 2015. Tempting for them isn't it. But that urban motoring nirvana will never happen, so why bother?[/p][/quote]PP put this on at 07:49 hrs ; at 08:08 hrs it had 132 thumbs up score ! speaks volumes doesn't it ? PRESS !!!!! SORT IT OUT !!!!! nowthen

8:48am Tue 4 Feb 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

oh and for those who havent guessed who fixes the ratings... its oy you...
oh and for those who havent guessed who fixes the ratings... its oy you... Archiebold the 1st

8:54am Tue 4 Feb 14

JHardacre says...

65 comments so far and not one with a realistic proposal on how they would balance the budget.

To quote an old saying " Funny how all the people who know how to run the country are cleaning toilets".
65 comments so far and not one with a realistic proposal on how they would balance the budget. To quote an old saying " Funny how all the people who know how to run the country are cleaning toilets". JHardacre

9:00am Tue 4 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

oi oi savaloy wrote:
bet they still find some money to give some executive officer a pay rise or 2??? our council is run by a corrupt party!
The council is rotten to the core.

We need them out, overpaid officers and Labour councillors.

The cull will start in 2015 !
[quote][p][bold]oi oi savaloy[/bold] wrote: bet they still find some money to give some executive officer a pay rise or 2??? our council is run by a corrupt party![/p][/quote]The council is rotten to the core. We need them out, overpaid officers and Labour councillors. The cull will start in 2015 ! Rocking Horse

9:27am Tue 4 Feb 14

tonyfromitaly says...

This thread has got me as a taxpayer, and like many others steaming under the collar.
A council filled with labour cronies and jobs created just to get more of them on board ( and getting rid of them later will be very difficult ,Payoffs etc.)
Spending our money like theres no tomorrow ! Obviously a strategy and we are being suckered right into it. I can feel a Kind hearts and coronets moment coming on. Hope someone can help me out with it.
This thread has got me as a taxpayer, and like many others steaming under the collar. A council filled with labour cronies and jobs created just to get more of them on board ( and getting rid of them later will be very difficult ,Payoffs etc.) Spending our money like theres no tomorrow ! Obviously a strategy and we are being suckered right into it. I can feel a Kind hearts and coronets moment coming on. Hope someone can help me out with it. tonyfromitaly

9:32am Tue 4 Feb 14

tobefair says...

Perhaps the council vote rigger on this site will be one of those to lose their job. We can but hope.
Perhaps the council vote rigger on this site will be one of those to lose their job. We can but hope. tobefair

9:49am Tue 4 Feb 14

Madasanibbotson says...

nowthen wrote:
pedalling paul wrote:
Let' s see how many Councillors suddenly begin to court the car users vote inthe run up to 2015. Tempting for them isn't it. But that urban motoring nirvana will never happen, so why bother?
PP put this on at 07:49 hrs ; at 08:08 hrs it had 132 thumbs up score ! speaks volumes doesn't it ? PRESS !!!!! SORT IT OUT !!!!!
Not a very high figure really when you have council staff are logging onto the press/twitter/facebo
ok sites 80,000 times a day.
Confusing thing is how Jimmy Alexander thinks he can reduce staff that have time to waste giving thumbs down and still get negative votes for anyone who dares suggest he and his gang are wrong.
[quote][p][bold]nowthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Let' s see how many Councillors suddenly begin to court the car users vote inthe run up to 2015. Tempting for them isn't it. But that urban motoring nirvana will never happen, so why bother?[/p][/quote]PP put this on at 07:49 hrs ; at 08:08 hrs it had 132 thumbs up score ! speaks volumes doesn't it ? PRESS !!!!! SORT IT OUT !!!!![/p][/quote]Not a very high figure really when you have council staff are logging onto the press/twitter/facebo ok sites 80,000 times a day. Confusing thing is how Jimmy Alexander thinks he can reduce staff that have time to waste giving thumbs down and still get negative votes for anyone who dares suggest he and his gang are wrong. Madasanibbotson

9:52am Tue 4 Feb 14

Madasanibbotson says...

JHardacre wrote:
65 comments so far and not one with a realistic proposal on how they would balance the budget.

To quote an old saying " Funny how all the people who know how to run the country are cleaning toilets".
Lets think -Jimmy Alexander C.V. part time job in Jessops and now wasting £ million's of our money.
Not hard to see why people think they could do better !
[quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: 65 comments so far and not one with a realistic proposal on how they would balance the budget. To quote an old saying " Funny how all the people who know how to run the country are cleaning toilets".[/p][/quote]Lets think -Jimmy Alexander C.V. part time job in Jessops and now wasting £ million's of our money. Not hard to see why people think they could do better ! Madasanibbotson

10:14am Tue 4 Feb 14

meme says...

65 comments so far and not one with a realistic proposal on how they would balance the budget.

Its pretty simple GET rid of all the projects that are not core delivery ie arts barges/refurbishment of James st/Kings sq etc and concentrate on the essential issues.
Cut senior staff salaries by 25%. If they don't like it there are plenty to do their jobs at a much lower cost. They only employ people from other cabals ie they shift from one Government job to another and outsiders don't get a look in
Introduce volunteering for certain non core but liked services Libraries etc
Encourage business to grow
65 comments so far and not one with a realistic proposal on how they would balance the budget. Its pretty simple GET rid of all the projects that are not core delivery ie arts barges/refurbishment of James st/Kings sq etc and concentrate on the essential issues. Cut senior staff salaries by 25%. If they don't like it there are plenty to do their jobs at a much lower cost. They only employ people from other cabals ie they shift from one Government job to another and outsiders don't get a look in Introduce volunteering for certain non core but liked services Libraries etc Encourage business to grow meme

10:27am Tue 4 Feb 14

tonyfromitaly says...

I am resided to the fact that the title "Banana Republic" is well and truly fitting, when you consider the corrupt, shady back hand methods this lot are about.
My great great great uncle Constantine would turn in his grave if he knew what they are doing to his once mighty city.
I am resided to the fact that the title "Banana Republic" is well and truly fitting, when you consider the corrupt, shady back hand methods this lot are about. My great great great uncle Constantine would turn in his grave if he knew what they are doing to his once mighty city. tonyfromitaly

10:33am Tue 4 Feb 14

perplexed says...

I am no fan of Alexander and would quite happily see the back of him along with the Government of the day who seem help bent on giving away millions of pounds to regimes around the world who do not deserve it. As for the Council tax rise, what about North Yorkshire and the countless other tory led councils who will be rejecting the council tax freeze this year ? Tell it to the poor souls in North Yorkshire who are in danger of having their buses services cut . Voting conservative does not seem to have done them much good either or could it simply be that Tory councils are such as profligate and mismanaged as labour ones?
I am no fan of Alexander and would quite happily see the back of him along with the Government of the day who seem help bent on giving away millions of pounds to regimes around the world who do not deserve it. As for the Council tax rise, what about North Yorkshire and the countless other tory led councils who will be rejecting the council tax freeze this year ? Tell it to the poor souls in North Yorkshire who are in danger of having their buses services cut . Voting conservative does not seem to have done them much good either or could it simply be that Tory councils are such as profligate and mismanaged as labour ones? perplexed

10:36am Tue 4 Feb 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

JHardacre wrote:
65 comments so far and not one with a realistic proposal on how they would balance the budget. To quote an old saying " Funny how all the people who know how to run the country are cleaning toilets".
Stop PPI schemes? this would mean they could only undertake works they can afford too. Royal Armouries.

The reason why they are in trouble is living beyond their means by taking whatever sneaky routes it takes to get a project completed for as cheap as possible, which costs in the long run.
[quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: 65 comments so far and not one with a realistic proposal on how they would balance the budget. To quote an old saying " Funny how all the people who know how to run the country are cleaning toilets".[/p][/quote]Stop PPI schemes? this would mean they could only undertake works they can afford too. Royal Armouries. The reason why they are in trouble is living beyond their means by taking whatever sneaky routes it takes to get a project completed for as cheap as possible, which costs in the long run. Archiebold the 1st

10:46am Tue 4 Feb 14

Kevin Turvey says...

If we lived in a world of natural justice the first jobs to be cut should be Bill and Ben in the photo along with the 3rd amigo Merrit.

Perhaps the council should have some form of Coup de Tat and remove the so called leadership that is driving them onto the rocks at our cost.

They will be going in 2015 by the voters anyway but what about the costly damage in the meantime that we foot the bill for?

Alexander the not so Great, Ferret and Simply Long your time is up, leave the building by the next available exit and never ever attempt to be in public office ever again!

Nobody wants you!

You are as much use as a sucked and spat out smartie.

Now go!
If we lived in a world of natural justice the first jobs to be cut should be Bill and Ben in the photo along with the 3rd amigo Merrit. Perhaps the council should have some form of Coup de Tat and remove the so called leadership that is driving them onto the rocks at our cost. They will be going in 2015 by the voters anyway but what about the costly damage in the meantime that we foot the bill for? Alexander the not so Great, Ferret and Simply Long your time is up, leave the building by the next available exit and never ever attempt to be in public office ever again! Nobody wants you! You are as much use as a sucked and spat out smartie. Now go! Kevin Turvey

10:55am Tue 4 Feb 14

again says...

hustler wrote:
York Press. Can I suggest (if you even read and monitor these comments), that you either abolish the +/- scores, or have some way of preventing the abuse and manipulation which occurs in the comments facilities in many articles / letters (but especially those concerning Y.C.C.). Clearly, there is significant manipulation going on through hacking or other means, and these "popularity votes" bring nothing of any use or relevance to the debate, except for further ill-feeling.
You are so right!

It's called astraturfing, is it not?

Certainly to any frequent reader of YP comments it's obvious that this is going on.

.
[quote][p][bold]hustler[/bold] wrote: York Press. Can I suggest (if you even read and monitor these comments), that you either abolish the +/- scores, or have some way of preventing the abuse and manipulation which occurs in the comments facilities in many articles / letters (but especially those concerning Y.C.C.). Clearly, there is significant manipulation going on through hacking or other means, and these "popularity votes" bring nothing of any use or relevance to the debate, except for further ill-feeling.[/p][/quote]You are so right! It's called astraturfing, is it not? Certainly to any frequent reader of YP comments it's obvious that this is going on. . again

10:56am Tue 4 Feb 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

How many people will loose their jobs because the council Introduced a pay structure based on the living wage. However harsh it may appear it is better to have a job than no job.

There could have been a phased introduction of the living wage that would not have put as many jobs, and the services those jobs deliver at risk.

A phased introduction of the living wage could have been linked to measured efficiency savings delivered by the very staff who would have benefitted. You can choose to incentivise or demoralise staff by allowing them to be part of the solution or not (not in this case). Ironically the staff you are making redundant are probably not just the solution but the very people who can deliver the results.

Spend £500k on consultants they will only tell you what you should already know, usually formulae based.

Leadership, tough decisions or smart decisions.
How many people will loose their jobs because the council Introduced a pay structure based on the living wage. However harsh it may appear it is better to have a job than no job. There could have been a phased introduction of the living wage that would not have put as many jobs, and the services those jobs deliver at risk. A phased introduction of the living wage could have been linked to measured efficiency savings delivered by the very staff who would have benefitted. You can choose to incentivise or demoralise staff by allowing them to be part of the solution or not (not in this case). Ironically the staff you are making redundant are probably not just the solution but the very people who can deliver the results. Spend £500k on consultants they will only tell you what you should already know, usually formulae based. Leadership, tough decisions or smart decisions. YOUWILLDOASISAY

11:07am Tue 4 Feb 14

acomblass says...

The seeds of this disaster were sown in 2011 when JA set up the Fairness Commission which was packed with cronies from other parts of the country who had no idea what was happening in York. This situation has been further compounded by the appointment of a former Vice Chancellor of York University to run Reinvigorate York and who wants York to mirror Bruges! and who seems to have forgotten what Makes York Special (his book!) The latest appointment is from London and responsible for writing the poverty strategy for York.
The seeds of this disaster were sown in 2011 when JA set up the Fairness Commission which was packed with cronies from other parts of the country who had no idea what was happening in York. This situation has been further compounded by the appointment of a former Vice Chancellor of York University to run Reinvigorate York and who wants York to mirror Bruges! and who seems to have forgotten what Makes York Special (his book!) The latest appointment is from London and responsible for writing the poverty strategy for York. acomblass

12:28pm Tue 4 Feb 14

itsapickle says...

It would be interesting to learn what services the Council have a legal duty to provide (core services) and what are not. Then to see how much is spent on these discretionary functions. What ever an "Anti social hub" is - I dont know if it has a legitimate foundation or role in local government - or whether it's a management concept to "re wire" the way in which some guru thinks the Council should now be run.
Get back to basic, statutory service provision as a base line for cost accounting. Anything else CYC thinks it provides should be regarded as a luxury.
It would be interesting to learn what services the Council have a legal duty to provide (core services) and what are not. Then to see how much is spent on these discretionary functions. What ever an "Anti social hub" is - I dont know if it has a legitimate foundation or role in local government - or whether it's a management concept to "re wire" the way in which some guru thinks the Council should now be run. Get back to basic, statutory service provision as a base line for cost accounting. Anything else CYC thinks it provides should be regarded as a luxury. itsapickle

1:06pm Tue 4 Feb 14

bloodaxe says...

itsapickle wrote:
It would be interesting to learn what services the Council have a legal duty to provide (core services) and what are not. Then to see how much is spent on these discretionary functions. What ever an "Anti social hub" is - I dont know if it has a legitimate foundation or role in local government - or whether it's a management concept to "re wire" the way in which some guru thinks the Council should now be run.
Get back to basic, statutory service provision as a base line for cost accounting. Anything else CYC thinks it provides should be regarded as a luxury.
Basics being: education; social, child and old-age provision; fire, police and ambulance services; refuse and recycling; housing provision; highway/footpath maintenance; street lighting; street cleaning (statutory obligation); libraries and cultural activities support (which raises ten pounds for every one spent). That's for starters. You could have super roads and lousy schools or filthy streets and one or two more policemen or refuse operatives. The answer is to get our national priorities sorted out and look at where money is going from central government. Another idea is reduce nationally collected income tax and have local income taxes, while cutting VAT rates across the board. Abolish Council Tax. Income tax is progressive, VAT is regressive and hits the poor as much as it hits the rich. Council tax takes no account of individual circumstances. Penalise absentee alien property owners, this is a major problem in London and the South East. Local taxation with local accountability. Councils elected every four years. Of course none of this will happen, certainly not under the current régime but at least it's a positive answer rather than endless whingeing, which seems to be the default position from many regulars on this site.
[quote][p][bold]itsapickle[/bold] wrote: It would be interesting to learn what services the Council have a legal duty to provide (core services) and what are not. Then to see how much is spent on these discretionary functions. What ever an "Anti social hub" is - I dont know if it has a legitimate foundation or role in local government - or whether it's a management concept to "re wire" the way in which some guru thinks the Council should now be run. Get back to basic, statutory service provision as a base line for cost accounting. Anything else CYC thinks it provides should be regarded as a luxury.[/p][/quote]Basics being: education; social, child and old-age provision; fire, police and ambulance services; refuse and recycling; housing provision; highway/footpath maintenance; street lighting; street cleaning (statutory obligation); libraries and cultural activities support (which raises ten pounds for every one spent). That's for starters. You could have super roads and lousy schools or filthy streets and one or two more policemen or refuse operatives. The answer is to get our national priorities sorted out and look at where money is going from central government. Another idea is reduce nationally collected income tax and have local income taxes, while cutting VAT rates across the board. Abolish Council Tax. Income tax is progressive, VAT is regressive and hits the poor as much as it hits the rich. Council tax takes no account of individual circumstances. Penalise absentee alien property owners, this is a major problem in London and the South East. Local taxation with local accountability. Councils elected every four years. Of course none of this will happen, certainly not under the current régime but at least it's a positive answer rather than endless whingeing, which seems to be the default position from many regulars on this site. bloodaxe

1:43pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Richard Catton says...

I am greatly reassured to learn that the Labour group understands it must make the 'right decisions now in the long-term interest of the city'.

You've done a fantstic job so far
I am greatly reassured to learn that the Labour group understands it must make the 'right decisions now in the long-term interest of the city'. You've done a fantstic job so far Richard Catton

1:51pm Tue 4 Feb 14

courier46 says...

That is the picture that will be on the front page of the press in 2015.Love it!
That is the picture that will be on the front page of the press in 2015.Love it! courier46

2:20pm Tue 4 Feb 14

whitehorse says...

Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around?
Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around? whitehorse

2:42pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Dave Ruddock says...

I find in rediculas, that on Visiting the council offices, and saw the CCTV room on a Saturday dinner tine and 1 (ONE) operator, no wounder no actions takn on people going missing in a camera area, yet they trach some male lewd things ?? God knos how much coverage nd cost for (ONE ) operator. The offoi=ices look like there run Robots. and of course where payinstupib money for director positions because the under mangers (who live in york) are not allowed to think. Bnes in a city never designed for modern traffic, MAINLY busses.. Road that ar falling into such a state even a horse and cart wont be able to use.
I find in rediculas, that on Visiting the council offices, and saw the CCTV room on a Saturday dinner tine and 1 (ONE) operator, no wounder no actions takn on people going missing in a camera area, yet they trach some male lewd things ?? God knos how much coverage nd cost for (ONE ) operator. The offoi=ices look like there run Robots. and of course where payinstupib money for director positions because the under mangers (who live in york) are not allowed to think. Bnes in a city never designed for modern traffic, MAINLY busses.. Road that ar falling into such a state even a horse and cart wont be able to use. Dave Ruddock

2:42pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Dave Ruddock says...

I find in rediculas, that on Visiting the council offices, and saw the CCTV room on a Saturday dinner tine and 1 (ONE) operator, no wounder no actions takn on people going missing in a camera area, yet they trach some male lewd things ?? God knos how much coverage nd cost for (ONE ) operator. The offoi=ices look like there run Robots. and of course where payinstupib money for director positions because the under mangers (who live in york) are not allowed to think. Bnes in a city never designed for modern traffic, MAINLY busses.. Road that ar falling into such a state even a horse and cart wont be able to use.
I find in rediculas, that on Visiting the council offices, and saw the CCTV room on a Saturday dinner tine and 1 (ONE) operator, no wounder no actions takn on people going missing in a camera area, yet they trach some male lewd things ?? God knos how much coverage nd cost for (ONE ) operator. The offoi=ices look like there run Robots. and of course where payinstupib money for director positions because the under mangers (who live in york) are not allowed to think. Bnes in a city never designed for modern traffic, MAINLY busses.. Road that ar falling into such a state even a horse and cart wont be able to use. Dave Ruddock

2:47pm Tue 4 Feb 14

yorkonafork says...

I didn't like this current council, their ideas, or spending however I notice a lot of people out there must not agree with the negative comments towards them on here and that in turn they have given them a negative score.

I will take this on board and follow the clearly popular view and support all labour policies from now on. Go current regime! :)
I didn't like this current council, their ideas, or spending however I notice a lot of people out there must not agree with the negative comments towards them on here and that in turn they have given them a negative score. I will take this on board and follow the clearly popular view and support all labour policies from now on. Go current regime! :) yorkonafork

3:09pm Tue 4 Feb 14

NoMorePlease says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
I find in rediculas, that on Visiting the council offices, and saw the CCTV room on a Saturday dinner tine and 1 (ONE) operator, no wounder no actions takn on people going missing in a camera area, yet they trach some male lewd things ?? God knos how much coverage nd cost for (ONE ) operator. The offoi=ices look like there run Robots. and of course where payinstupib money for director positions because the under mangers (who live in york) are not allowed to think. Bnes in a city never designed for modern traffic, MAINLY busses.. Road that ar falling into such a state even a horse and cart wont be able to use.
In English please
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: I find in rediculas, that on Visiting the council offices, and saw the CCTV room on a Saturday dinner tine and 1 (ONE) operator, no wounder no actions takn on people going missing in a camera area, yet they trach some male lewd things ?? God knos how much coverage nd cost for (ONE ) operator. The offoi=ices look like there run Robots. and of course where payinstupib money for director positions because the under mangers (who live in york) are not allowed to think. Bnes in a city never designed for modern traffic, MAINLY busses.. Road that ar falling into such a state even a horse and cart wont be able to use.[/p][/quote]In English please NoMorePlease

3:50pm Tue 4 Feb 14

piaggio1 says...

Jesus. Mr ruddock.
If were going to read your post.s please write it in english.and with proper words.
Thanks.
Jesus. Mr ruddock. If were going to read your post.s please write it in english.and with proper words. Thanks. piaggio1

3:51pm Tue 4 Feb 14

pjr_1984 says...

'Our council budget will reverse £1million in cuts unnecessarily imposed by the previous Liberal Democrat administration. People will then be able to judge who is the most financially prudent.' Well you lived up to that statement didn’t you Jimbo!!! Bloody Idiot!

(http://www.dailymai
l.co.uk/news/article
-2006774/Leader-cash
-strapped-council-fo
rced-make-Facebook-a
ppeal-advance-wages.
html)
'Our council budget will reverse £1million in cuts unnecessarily imposed by the previous Liberal Democrat administration. People will then be able to judge who is the most financially prudent.' Well you lived up to that statement didn’t you Jimbo!!! Bloody Idiot! (http://www.dailymai l.co.uk/news/article -2006774/Leader-cash -strapped-council-fo rced-make-Facebook-a ppeal-advance-wages. html) pjr_1984

3:54pm Tue 4 Feb 14

sounds weird but says...

whitehorse wrote:
Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around?
Yes i think someone is manipulating the thumbs up/thumbs down scoring thingy.

Easily ignorable though!
[quote][p][bold]whitehorse[/bold] wrote: Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around?[/p][/quote]Yes i think someone is manipulating the thumbs up/thumbs down scoring thingy. Easily ignorable though! sounds weird but

4:01pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

news just in... £70 fine for illegal parking when picking children up from school for safety reasons... not heard of any accidents recently and to be fair to parents nowadays seems you do have to pick them up from the gates with recent reports taken into account. This is just ridicules now.... why don’t they just employ pick pockets to take the money from us all directly and save all the bs.


According to council sources this will raise 4 billion pound extra each year though.
news just in... £70 fine for illegal parking when picking children up from school for safety reasons... not heard of any accidents recently and to be fair to parents nowadays seems you do have to pick them up from the gates with recent reports taken into account. This is just ridicules now.... why don’t they just employ pick pockets to take the money from us all directly and save all the bs. According to council sources this will raise 4 billion pound extra each year though. Archiebold the 1st

4:28pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Rocking Horse says...

courier46 wrote:
That is the picture that will be on the front page of the press in 2015.Love it!
Hopefully with Merrett, Crisp, England and many more of the regime in it !

Kick LABOUR out in 2015 !
[quote][p][bold]courier46[/bold] wrote: That is the picture that will be on the front page of the press in 2015.Love it![/p][/quote]Hopefully with Merrett, Crisp, England and many more of the regime in it ! Kick LABOUR out in 2015 ! Rocking Horse

4:33pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Woody G Mellor says...

sounds weird but wrote:
whitehorse wrote:
Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around?
Yes i think someone is manipulating the thumbs up/thumbs down scoring thingy.

Easily ignorable though!
Some sad no-lifer has been doing it for ages now. Pathetic.
[quote][p][bold]sounds weird but[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whitehorse[/bold] wrote: Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around?[/p][/quote]Yes i think someone is manipulating the thumbs up/thumbs down scoring thingy. Easily ignorable though![/p][/quote]Some sad no-lifer has been doing it for ages now. Pathetic. Woody G Mellor

5:22pm Tue 4 Feb 14

pedalling paul says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
sounds weird but wrote:
whitehorse wrote:
Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around?
Yes i think someone is manipulating the thumbs up/thumbs down scoring thingy.

Easily ignorable though!
Some sad no-lifer has been doing it for ages now. Pathetic.
I always end up in the midst of popular opinion, but whether on the same or opposite side of it is a matter for debate.......
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sounds weird but[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whitehorse[/bold] wrote: Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around?[/p][/quote]Yes i think someone is manipulating the thumbs up/thumbs down scoring thingy. Easily ignorable though![/p][/quote]Some sad no-lifer has been doing it for ages now. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]I always end up in the midst of popular opinion, but whether on the same or opposite side of it is a matter for debate....... pedalling paul

6:26pm Tue 4 Feb 14

bjb says...

Anyone seen the media stories about Facebook today and how much money they make from all the doughnuts that click the likes buttons. It would seem the advertisers love it and are prepared to pay for each click.

Could it be The Press benefits financially from such a deal with advertisers? Maybe this explains why they will not remove them or police the obvious cheating.
Anyone seen the media stories about Facebook today and how much money they make from all the doughnuts that click the likes buttons. It would seem the advertisers love it and are prepared to pay for each click. Could it be The Press benefits financially from such a deal with advertisers? Maybe this explains why they will not remove them or police the obvious cheating. bjb

7:25pm Tue 4 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
sounds weird but wrote:
whitehorse wrote:
Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around?
Yes i think someone is manipulating the thumbs up/thumbs down scoring thingy.

Easily ignorable though!
Some sad no-lifer has been doing it for ages now. Pathetic.
i read on alexanders titter account that he had burnt something like 3500 calories a day on his new exercise regime, his finger must be going like the clappers on score's tab!!
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sounds weird but[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]whitehorse[/bold] wrote: Seriously- is someone **** with the scores on these comments. Every single one seems to be in minus points- apart from Pedalling Paul. Have you actually landed yourself in the midst of popular opinion PP or is someone mucking around?[/p][/quote]Yes i think someone is manipulating the thumbs up/thumbs down scoring thingy. Easily ignorable though![/p][/quote]Some sad no-lifer has been doing it for ages now. Pathetic.[/p][/quote]i read on alexanders titter account that he had burnt something like 3500 calories a day on his new exercise regime, his finger must be going like the clappers on score's tab!! oi oi savaloy

8:08pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Oyy you says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
news just in... £70 fine for illegal parking when picking children up from school for safety reasons... not heard of any accidents recently and to be fair to parents nowadays seems you do have to pick them up from the gates with recent reports taken into account. This is just ridicules now.... why don’t they just employ pick pockets to take the money from us all directly and save all the bs.


According to council sources this will raise 4 billion pound extra each year though.
Thumbs ups for now eh.....
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: news just in... £70 fine for illegal parking when picking children up from school for safety reasons... not heard of any accidents recently and to be fair to parents nowadays seems you do have to pick them up from the gates with recent reports taken into account. This is just ridicules now.... why don’t they just employ pick pockets to take the money from us all directly and save all the bs. According to council sources this will raise 4 billion pound extra each year though.[/p][/quote]Thumbs ups for now eh..... Oyy you

9:29pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Igiveinthen says...

Somebody took exception to the comment I made earlier today as it has disappeared, no matter heres another version.

It would appear from reading the comments on this article, that there is an overwhelming desire for regime change in the City of York.
What I do hope is that when it comes to voting for a new council, the voters remember the wasteful schemes that this leader and his cohorts have inflicted on this City e.g 20's plenty springs to mind, and don't think "oh well better the devil you know" and vote them in again.
What is the alternative some ask, I say does it really matter, can either of the other main parties make a worse job than what labour has done?
Somebody took exception to the comment I made earlier today as it has disappeared, no matter heres another version. It would appear from reading the comments on this article, that there is an overwhelming desire for regime change in the City of York. What I do hope is that when it comes to voting for a new council, the voters remember the wasteful schemes that this leader and his cohorts have inflicted on this City e.g 20's plenty springs to mind, and don't think "oh well better the devil you know" and vote them in again. What is the alternative some ask, I say does it really matter, can either of the other main parties make a worse job than what labour has done? Igiveinthen

9:33pm Tue 4 Feb 14

bjb says...

The comments on here from council bashing trolls is NOT AN OVERWHELMING DESIRE FOR REGIME CHANGE.
The comments on here from council bashing trolls is NOT AN OVERWHELMING DESIRE FOR REGIME CHANGE. bjb

10:36pm Tue 4 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

blimey it seems the Emily Howard reference hit a nerve !!??
blimey it seems the Emily Howard reference hit a nerve !!?? oi oi savaloy

10:41pm Tue 4 Feb 14

Happytoliveinyork says...

bjb wrote:
The comments on here from council bashing trolls is NOT AN OVERWHELMING DESIRE FOR REGIME CHANGE.
Errrrrrmmmmmmm......
...........yes it is ;-)
[quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: The comments on here from council bashing trolls is NOT AN OVERWHELMING DESIRE FOR REGIME CHANGE.[/p][/quote]Errrrrrmmmmmmm...... ...........yes it is ;-) Happytoliveinyork

11:20pm Tue 4 Feb 14

nvjames says...

The average increase in council tax is 37p, per person, per week. Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure everyone can afford that.
In the recent findings published, York was ranked 5th city in the UK for the lowest JSA claimants, and 6th for the lowest levels in inequality (www.centreforcities
.org/assets/files/20
14/Cities_Outlook_20
14.pdf)
Job losses are unfortunate, but the current climate has forced this - and also forcing the council to be more focuses and efficient, something that really should have happened a long time ago.
I think they're doing alright.
The average increase in council tax is 37p, per person, per week. Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure everyone can afford that. In the recent findings published, York was ranked 5th city in the UK for the lowest JSA claimants, and 6th for the lowest levels in inequality (www.centreforcities .org/assets/files/20 14/Cities_Outlook_20 14.pdf) Job losses are unfortunate, but the current climate has forced this - and also forcing the council to be more focuses and efficient, something that really should have happened a long time ago. I think they're doing alright. nvjames

7:19am Wed 5 Feb 14

oi oi savaloy says...

nvjames wrote:
The average increase in council tax is 37p, per person, per week. Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure everyone can afford that.
In the recent findings published, York was ranked 5th city in the UK for the lowest JSA claimants, and 6th for the lowest levels in inequality (www.centreforcities

.org/assets/files/20

14/Cities_Outlook_20

14.pdf)
Job losses are unfortunate, but the current climate has forced this - and also forcing the council to be more focuses and efficient, something that really should have happened a long time ago.
I think they're doing alright.
i'm pretty sure that those 2 in the picture keep harping on about poverty and how people can't afford this and can't afford that! and that the government is at fault for just about everything! Only yesterday Simpson Laing wrote a letter to the paper about poverty!

This is not about it just being a 37p rise, for me i am sick of it going up, services reduced year after year ,and then i see the barmy ideas like 600k on "20 is plenty" 500k wasted on that awful kings square project, i then see a list of exec officers on obscene wage packets, i then see children's services reduced one week by 12k ish, then the following week you find out its to give paul edmondson jones a whopping big pay rise, then you find out that a 70k p.a. non job is created! the list of money wasted that should be spent on services is endless! my own personal view is that York city council is well and truly broken ... so as to everybody affording it?? i can afford it, but why on earth should my council tax go up year on end for less? my daughter can't afford it, my mam,dad ,2 uncles,4aunties mother in law all pensioners can't afford it, so on my side thats 1 in 11 that can take a hit...
[quote][p][bold]nvjames[/bold] wrote: The average increase in council tax is 37p, per person, per week. Maybe it's just me, but I'm pretty sure everyone can afford that. In the recent findings published, York was ranked 5th city in the UK for the lowest JSA claimants, and 6th for the lowest levels in inequality (www.centreforcities .org/assets/files/20 14/Cities_Outlook_20 14.pdf) Job losses are unfortunate, but the current climate has forced this - and also forcing the council to be more focuses and efficient, something that really should have happened a long time ago. I think they're doing alright.[/p][/quote]i'm pretty sure that those 2 in the picture keep harping on about poverty and how people can't afford this and can't afford that! and that the government is at fault for just about everything! Only yesterday Simpson Laing wrote a letter to the paper about poverty! This is not about it just being a 37p rise, for me i am sick of it going up, services reduced year after year ,and then i see the barmy ideas like 600k on "20 is plenty" 500k wasted on that awful kings square project, i then see a list of exec officers on obscene wage packets, i then see children's services reduced one week by 12k ish, then the following week you find out its to give paul edmondson jones a whopping big pay rise, then you find out that a 70k p.a. non job is created! the list of money wasted that should be spent on services is endless! my own personal view is that York city council is well and truly broken ... so as to everybody affording it?? i can afford it, but why on earth should my council tax go up year on end for less? my daughter can't afford it, my mam,dad ,2 uncles,4aunties mother in law all pensioners can't afford it, so on my side thats 1 in 11 that can take a hit... oi oi savaloy

10:23am Wed 5 Feb 14

hikerman says...

240 jobs to go at york council there will be a lot of backbiting if only the walls had ears .
240 jobs to go at york council there will be a lot of backbiting if only the walls had ears . hikerman

12:46pm Wed 5 Feb 14

Dallwan says...

Sadly this was oh so predictable. Last week we see the grinning idiot Merrit sitting in an electric car bragging about spending £250k on electric points that won't be used. Cuts have to be made but for them to sit in the picture shown looking sad is beyond belief. Stop wasting our money on stupid schemes that cost a fortune...Kings Square, Cycle tracks that don't finish properly, pointless consultations etc etc. Start cutting the salary of the senior"executives" who say they need that level of salary to attract top quality people.......rubbish
. Stop all these stupid schemes and concentrate on core services that are needed. Cuts at the top first before the foot soldiers loose their jobs. Sadly we are also burdened with some unelected employees in the transport and planning offices who come up with some of the ridiculous half baked ideas that our council impose on us. Some of them need to go as well. As for the lendal bridge farce and now the Minster badge suggestions...beyond belief. But don't worry Mr Alexander I wont b buying a badge as I don't do any shopping in York City Centre as you are strangling it. I would rather travel out of town to places like Harrogate where visitors are welcome and not mugged at the first chance by the local council!!! Role on the next local elections and hopefully the idiots will be gone....
Sadly this was oh so predictable. Last week we see the grinning idiot Merrit sitting in an electric car bragging about spending £250k on electric points that won't be used. Cuts have to be made but for them to sit in the picture shown looking sad is beyond belief. Stop wasting our money on stupid schemes that cost a fortune...Kings Square, Cycle tracks that don't finish properly, pointless consultations etc etc. Start cutting the salary of the senior"executives" who say they need that level of salary to attract top quality people.......rubbish . Stop all these stupid schemes and concentrate on core services that are needed. Cuts at the top first before the foot soldiers loose their jobs. Sadly we are also burdened with some unelected employees in the transport and planning offices who come up with some of the ridiculous half baked ideas that our council impose on us. Some of them need to go as well. As for the lendal bridge farce and now the Minster badge suggestions...beyond belief. But don't worry Mr Alexander I wont b buying a badge as I don't do any shopping in York City Centre as you are strangling it. I would rather travel out of town to places like Harrogate where visitors are welcome and not mugged at the first chance by the local council!!! Role on the next local elections and hopefully the idiots will be gone.... Dallwan

3:09pm Wed 5 Feb 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Dallwan wrote:
Sadly this was oh so predictable. Last week we see the grinning idiot Merrit sitting in an electric car bragging about spending £250k on electric points that won't be used. Cuts have to be made but for them to sit in the picture shown looking sad is beyond belief. Stop wasting our money on stupid schemes that cost a fortune...Kings Square, Cycle tracks that don't finish properly, pointless consultations etc etc. Start cutting the salary of the senior"executiv
es" who say they need that level of salary to attract top quality people.......rubbish

. Stop all these stupid schemes and concentrate on core services that are needed. Cuts at the top first before the foot soldiers loose their jobs. Sadly we are also burdened with some unelected employees in the transport and planning offices who come up with some of the ridiculous half baked ideas that our council impose on us. Some of them need to go as well. As for the lendal bridge farce and now the Minster badge suggestions...beyond belief. But don't worry Mr Alexander I wont b buying a badge as I don't do any shopping in York City Centre as you are strangling it. I would rather travel out of town to places like Harrogate where visitors are welcome and not mugged at the first chance by the local council!!! Role on the next local elections and hopefully the idiots will be gone....
Oh so very accurate, every single word is on the money.

The councils response to this situation is a clear statement that they value vanity projects above people (employees) and services.

* It's our toughest challenge yet, says chief executive.Tough challenges require smart solutions not soft options. If this were private sector you would not be putting prices up while delivering less, you would be expected to deliver more for less and counting every paper clip, vanity projects would be a good time reward based on cost benefit analysis carried out by a grown-up.

As for the opposition the Green's have managed a superficial curve ball response and predictably blamed someone else. The Conservatives have said what they believe is wrong but failed miserably to say how they would deal with the situation. The LibDem's well they are clearly missing the party, probably failed to set the alarm clock.

The Labour party has gifted the opposition a great opportunity and it is wasted.
[quote][p][bold]Dallwan[/bold] wrote: Sadly this was oh so predictable. Last week we see the grinning idiot Merrit sitting in an electric car bragging about spending £250k on electric points that won't be used. Cuts have to be made but for them to sit in the picture shown looking sad is beyond belief. Stop wasting our money on stupid schemes that cost a fortune...Kings Square, Cycle tracks that don't finish properly, pointless consultations etc etc. Start cutting the salary of the senior"executiv es" who say they need that level of salary to attract top quality people.......rubbish . Stop all these stupid schemes and concentrate on core services that are needed. Cuts at the top first before the foot soldiers loose their jobs. Sadly we are also burdened with some unelected employees in the transport and planning offices who come up with some of the ridiculous half baked ideas that our council impose on us. Some of them need to go as well. As for the lendal bridge farce and now the Minster badge suggestions...beyond belief. But don't worry Mr Alexander I wont b buying a badge as I don't do any shopping in York City Centre as you are strangling it. I would rather travel out of town to places like Harrogate where visitors are welcome and not mugged at the first chance by the local council!!! Role on the next local elections and hopefully the idiots will be gone....[/p][/quote]Oh so very accurate, every single word is on the money. The councils response to this situation is a clear statement that they value vanity projects above people (employees) and services. * It's our toughest challenge yet, says chief executive.Tough challenges require smart solutions not soft options. If this were private sector you would not be putting prices up while delivering less, you would be expected to deliver more for less and counting every paper clip, vanity projects would be a good time reward based on cost benefit analysis carried out by a grown-up. As for the opposition the Green's have managed a superficial curve ball response and predictably blamed someone else. The Conservatives have said what they believe is wrong but failed miserably to say how they would deal with the situation. The LibDem's well they are clearly missing the party, probably failed to set the alarm clock. The Labour party has gifted the opposition a great opportunity and it is wasted. YOUWILLDOASISAY

6:31pm Wed 5 Feb 14

WTHAWG says...

Councillor Alexander says "I would like to know where the referendum is on the national budget, ON BEDROOM TAX, on income tax."

Council Tax payers ARE paying a bedroom tax to the Councillor.

As the Valuation Office tells us "For council tax, the basis of measurement for all houses and bungalows is the building’s gross floor area". The more bedrooms you have the more you pay.
Councillor Alexander says "I would like to know where the referendum is on the national budget, ON BEDROOM TAX, on income tax." Council Tax payers ARE paying a bedroom tax to the Councillor. As the Valuation Office tells us "For council tax, the basis of measurement for all houses and bungalows is the building’s gross floor area". The more bedrooms you have the more you pay. WTHAWG

8:02pm Wed 5 Feb 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

8pm right on the button, the One Show Must have finished.

Crack on, plenty to mark down tonight.

Woof Woof
8pm right on the button, the One Show Must have finished. Crack on, plenty to mark down tonight. Woof Woof YOUWILLDOASISAY

8:17pm Wed 5 Feb 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

How many York Council jobs are being lost so the council can fund membership of the West Yorkshire Combined Authority.

Money spent in West Yorkshire for some maybe's = council jobs lost in York, guaranteed.
How many York Council jobs are being lost so the council can fund membership of the West Yorkshire Combined Authority. Money spent in West Yorkshire for some maybe's = council jobs lost in York, guaranteed. YOUWILLDOASISAY

8:28pm Wed 5 Feb 14

mike.......durkin says...

I just cant beleev council tax going up all the time is it not ever go dawn as we all famlys struggling like us paying for if..am verry up set of the out com..as we all pay for living+shoping+ rent it all adds up keep it low
I just cant beleev council tax going up all the time is it not ever go dawn as we all famlys struggling like us paying for if..am verry up set of the out com..as we all pay for living+shoping+ rent it all adds up keep it low mike.......durkin

8:51pm Wed 5 Feb 14

mike.......durkin says...

York1234 wrote:
Hang on

CYC created an ****. director post for the current Head of Comms team which comes with a HEAFTY pay rise but wouldn't advertise this externally - to cut down on the competition?

Then when the Head of Economic Development gets an offer from York Uni they create a new role increasing salary to 70k from 50k.

BUT I have to pay more in council tax when they cut cut CUT services I might actually want and push us into a ridiculous international agenda - putting York onto a global stage. WHY?

And the pet projects. The 400k being spent on SCY over two years when the benefits of the project were not identified at the outset.

This council is flawed - councillors and officers - and WE are all paying for it. We are fools.
yor right there and the famlys like us all cant get a morge ho lives in a council house or a flat wot we hard to a ford and triying live in and its hard.bils shud cut by half
[quote][p][bold]York1234[/bold] wrote: Hang on CYC created an ****. director post for the current Head of Comms team which comes with a HEAFTY pay rise but wouldn't advertise this externally - to cut down on the competition? Then when the Head of Economic Development gets an offer from York Uni they create a new role increasing salary to 70k from 50k. BUT I have to pay more in council tax when they cut cut CUT services I might actually want and push us into a ridiculous international agenda - putting York onto a global stage. WHY? And the pet projects. The 400k being spent on SCY over two years when the benefits of the project were not identified at the outset. This council is flawed - councillors and officers - and WE are all paying for it. We are fools.[/p][/quote]yor right there and the famlys like us all cant get a morge ho lives in a council house or a flat wot we hard to a ford and triying live in and its hard.bils shud cut by half mike.......durkin

8:54pm Wed 5 Feb 14

bjb says...

TV news today highlighted that the conners and Lib demolishers have ring fenced spending on the NHS making people believe the NHS is safe. It was pointed out the the effects of inflation and the rising population will mean the NHS will have to make further cuts just to tread water.

Councils are no different. Council tax will always have to rise to take this into account. The more the noggins in Westminster remove from local government, the more services local government are expected to provide, the more extra they have to find.

In York the point has now arrived when no more jobs can be cut. No more attempts to redeploy people from one directorate to another is available. The situation is serious. Someone pointed out earlier that council workers are having to take on two or three jobs and are getting demoralised.

There was a time when council workers were prepared to work for poor wages (most are on low grade work for low grade pay). It was the package that made it worth it.
TV news today highlighted that the conners and Lib demolishers have ring fenced spending on the NHS making people believe the NHS is safe. It was pointed out the the effects of inflation and the rising population will mean the NHS will have to make further cuts just to tread water. Councils are no different. Council tax will always have to rise to take this into account. The more the noggins in Westminster remove from local government, the more services local government are expected to provide, the more extra they have to find. In York the point has now arrived when no more jobs can be cut. No more attempts to redeploy people from one directorate to another is available. The situation is serious. Someone pointed out earlier that council workers are having to take on two or three jobs and are getting demoralised. There was a time when council workers were prepared to work for poor wages (most are on low grade work for low grade pay). It was the package that made it worth it. bjb

7:37pm Sat 8 Feb 14

yorklaidtorights says...

Hopefully with all these proposed job cuts it won't be long before James Alexander becomes one of them. I just hope the damage done is repairable
Hopefully with all these proposed job cuts it won't be long before James Alexander becomes one of them. I just hope the damage done is repairable yorklaidtorights

5:17pm Sun 9 Feb 14

mjgyork says...

yorklaidtorights wrote:
Hopefully with all these proposed job cuts it won't be long before James Alexander becomes one of them. I just hope the damage done is repairable
These 'job cuts' will have the same result as those previously. More working through Agencies on lower wages, less job securit.y, no pension rights etc. etc. The only ones to profit are the businesses and employment agencies. Do you really think that it is a coincinence that so many have sprung up recently? This is how the gangsters Tories in Westminster can claim the have 'created' millions of job. If the 'job' still needs to be done, then somebody has to pay for it. That is us, not them. Unless you really beleieve that: " There is no such thing as society...." Nozic must be astounded that he has been so much misconstrued.
[quote][p][bold]yorklaidtorights[/bold] wrote: Hopefully with all these proposed job cuts it won't be long before James Alexander becomes one of them. I just hope the damage done is repairable[/p][/quote]These 'job cuts' will have the same result as those previously. More working through Agencies on lower wages, less job securit.y, no pension rights etc. etc. The only ones to profit are the businesses and employment agencies. Do you really think that it is a coincinence that so many have sprung up recently? This is how the gangsters Tories in Westminster can claim the have 'created' millions of job. If the 'job' still needs to be done, then somebody has to pay for it. That is us, not them. Unless you really beleieve that: " There is no such thing as society...." Nozic must be astounded that he has been so much misconstrued. mjgyork

10:37pm Sun 9 Feb 14

yorklaidtorights says...

mjgyork wrote:
yorklaidtorights wrote:
Hopefully with all these proposed job cuts it won't be long before James Alexander becomes one of them. I just hope the damage done is repairable
These 'job cuts' will have the same result as those previously. More working through Agencies on lower wages, less job securit.y, no pension rights etc. etc. The only ones to profit are the businesses and employment agencies. Do you really think that it is a coincinence that so many have sprung up recently? This is how the gangsters Tories in Westminster can claim the have 'created' millions of job. If the 'job' still needs to be done, then somebody has to pay for it. That is us, not them. Unless you really beleieve that: " There is no such thing as society...." Nozic must be astounded that he has been so much misconstrued.
mjgyork; having 3+ people employed to do 1 persons job is madness and financially irresponsible. I work in property and recently did some work with a local authority. 28 public sector posts were closed down and replaced by a private sector contract. That private sector contract is being serviced by 9 people (more efficiently I might add) and the council involved is saving a fortune!! The job might still need doing but not in a grossly inefficient way!
[quote][p][bold]mjgyork[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]yorklaidtorights[/bold] wrote: Hopefully with all these proposed job cuts it won't be long before James Alexander becomes one of them. I just hope the damage done is repairable[/p][/quote]These 'job cuts' will have the same result as those previously. More working through Agencies on lower wages, less job securit.y, no pension rights etc. etc. The only ones to profit are the businesses and employment agencies. Do you really think that it is a coincinence that so many have sprung up recently? This is how the gangsters Tories in Westminster can claim the have 'created' millions of job. If the 'job' still needs to be done, then somebody has to pay for it. That is us, not them. Unless you really beleieve that: " There is no such thing as society...." Nozic must be astounded that he has been so much misconstrued.[/p][/quote]mjgyork; having 3+ people employed to do 1 persons job is madness and financially irresponsible. I work in property and recently did some work with a local authority. 28 public sector posts were closed down and replaced by a private sector contract. That private sector contract is being serviced by 9 people (more efficiently I might add) and the council involved is saving a fortune!! The job might still need doing but not in a grossly inefficient way! yorklaidtorights

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