300+ motorists ignore Lendal Bridge fines

300+ motorists ignore Lendal Bridge fines

300+ motorists ignore Lendal Bridge fines

First published in News York Press: Photograph of the Author by , Chief reporter

MORE than 300 motorists are facing a £90 fine and possible court action for debt recovery after failing to pay a penalty for crossing York's Lendal Bridge.

Bailiffs could be employed to take on the debt recovery, says City of York Council, adding:  "This is standard practice."

Director Darren Richardson said that drivers who received a penalty charge notice (pcn) for crossing the bridge when cars were banned under the authority's trial closure scheme had 28-days to make the payment of £60, reducing to £30 if paid within 14 days.

However, PCNs still unpaid after 28 days might result in the council taking action to recover the outstanding amount.

"This starts with the issue of a 'Charge Notice', at which time the amount owed increases initially to £90," he said. "We would advise anyone who receives a PCN, at any stage of the process, to deal with it promptly to avoid charges escalating further."

He stressed that the purpose of the trial was not to generate revenue, but reduce traffic going over the bridge and through the city centre.

The council said that to date, around 350 Charge Certificates had been issued, but no recovery action had been undertaken.

News of the £90 fines emerged after a motorist with leukaemia and chronic obstructive pulmonary disease complained to The Press that he had received one.

Geoffrey Brundle, from near Whitby, said he had to leave early for home after visiting relatives at the Queens' Hotel last September because his oxygen supply was getting low, and he was fined for crossing the bridge when cars were banned. He claimed he had not seen any warning signs.

Mr Brundle claimed he had lodged an appeal against the fine last September, but a council official told him recently he could not see any evidence of him submitting any appeal. However, the official said he was willing in this case to allow an appeal and a payment of £60 would be acceptable.

The official said it was essential Mr Brundle dealt with the matter immediately, as failure to do so could result in the charge being registered as a debt with the County Court and recovery action being commenced.

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7:44am Wed 29 Jan 14

AnotherPointofView says...

Director Darren Richardson said that the purpose of the trial was not to generate revenue, but reduce traffic going over the bridge and through the city centre.

That's a bit daft Mr Richardson as Lendal Bridge helps take vehicles AROUND the city centre and NOT through it. Until the council wrecked it, we had an inner ring road.
Director Darren Richardson said that the purpose of the trial was not to generate revenue, but reduce traffic going over the bridge and through the city centre. That's a bit daft Mr Richardson as Lendal Bridge helps take vehicles AROUND the city centre and NOT through it. Until the council wrecked it, we had an inner ring road. AnotherPointofView
  • Score: -68

8:33am Wed 29 Jan 14

Oyy you says...

Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work..... Oyy you
  • Score: -829

8:39am Wed 29 Jan 14

tonyfromitaly says...

Lendal Bridge twinned with The bridge of sighs Venice.
Lendal Bridge twinned with The bridge of sighs Venice. tonyfromitaly
  • Score: 45

8:45am Wed 29 Jan 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it.
www.getoutofdebtfree
.org
Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow.
People need to open their eyes and start fighting back.
A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it. www.getoutofdebtfree .org Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow. People need to open their eyes and start fighting back. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -150

8:59am Wed 29 Jan 14

tonyfromitaly says...

NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it.
www.getoutofdebtfree

.org
Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow.
People need to open their eyes and start fighting back.
Corrupt council ? Maybe. Where I come from they are called "Cosa Nostra"
They never pretend to be anything other than what they are, so you always know what to expect. Thinking about that there are similarities.
[quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it. www.getoutofdebtfree .org Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow. People need to open their eyes and start fighting back.[/p][/quote]Corrupt council ? Maybe. Where I come from they are called "Cosa Nostra" They never pretend to be anything other than what they are, so you always know what to expect. Thinking about that there are similarities. tonyfromitaly
  • Score: -184

9:04am Wed 29 Jan 14

meme says...

the inadequate signage and the half hearted closure is doing York irreparable damage as visitors are being fined literally in their thousands.
IF its going to be closed permanently as seems to be the case make sure its closed to all except emergency traffic then there is no excuse about driving over it. i.e. put up some form of chicane or bollards.
If its going to be open then open it properly but this farce cannot be allowed to continue.
it makes York and its Council look grasping and inept! and will put off visitors........The Cities lifeblood
Its time CoYC sorted this once and for all and admitted how they implemented it was wrong and put it right NOW
It is a shame this council seem to **** up virtually everything they do. Had it been a private business heads would have rolled but there is no responsibility/accou
ntability involved in local authorities
the inadequate signage and the half hearted closure is doing York irreparable damage as visitors are being fined literally in their thousands. IF its going to be closed permanently as seems to be the case make sure its closed to all except emergency traffic then there is no excuse about driving over it. i.e. put up some form of chicane or bollards. If its going to be open then open it properly but this farce cannot be allowed to continue. it makes York and its Council look grasping and inept! and will put off visitors........The Cities lifeblood Its time CoYC sorted this once and for all and admitted how they implemented it was wrong and put it right NOW It is a shame this council seem to **** up virtually everything they do. Had it been a private business heads would have rolled but there is no responsibility/accou ntability involved in local authorities meme
  • Score: -162

9:10am Wed 29 Jan 14

MrsHoney says...

I had relatives visiting yesterday from Scotland and the subject of Lendal Bridge came up, they'd obviously heard on the grapevine somehow. They couldn't believe it, asking had another bridge been built since their last visit, where was the traffic supposed to go?!?! I simply said our council were full of lunatics. We're a laughing stock.
I had relatives visiting yesterday from Scotland and the subject of Lendal Bridge came up, they'd obviously heard on the grapevine somehow. They couldn't believe it, asking had another bridge been built since their last visit, where was the traffic supposed to go?!?! I simply said our council were full of lunatics. We're a laughing stock. MrsHoney
  • Score: -196

9:53am Wed 29 Jan 14

gurgles says...

council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .
council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . . gurgles
  • Score: -227

9:56am Wed 29 Jan 14

chelk says...

Waiting to see who gets all the high minus scores as they are the comments that are worth reading after the Moron has adjusted the scores
Waiting to see who gets all the high minus scores as they are the comments that are worth reading after the Moron has adjusted the scores chelk
  • Score: -82

10:23am Wed 29 Jan 14

anistasia says...

Chasing the people who've not paid their fine what cost to York residents.
Chasing the people who've not paid their fine what cost to York residents. anistasia
  • Score: -297

10:28am Wed 29 Jan 14

pjfair says...

meme wrote:
the inadequate signage and the half hearted closure is doing York irreparable damage as visitors are being fined literally in their thousands.
IF its going to be closed permanently as seems to be the case make sure its closed to all except emergency traffic then there is no excuse about driving over it. i.e. put up some form of chicane or bollards.
If its going to be open then open it properly but this farce cannot be allowed to continue.
it makes York and its Council look grasping and inept! and will put off visitors........The Cities lifeblood
Its time CoYC sorted this once and for all and admitted how they implemented it was wrong and put it right NOW
It is a shame this council seem to **** up virtually everything they do. Had it been a private business heads would have rolled but there is no responsibility/accou

ntability involved in local authorities
Completely agree with this. Put automatic bollards in place that will allow public transport and emergency services through and problem solved. The revenue raised by fining the visitors will be lost ten fold by deterring the visitors coming to the city. COYC Just clowns spelled wrongly..
[quote][p][bold]meme[/bold] wrote: the inadequate signage and the half hearted closure is doing York irreparable damage as visitors are being fined literally in their thousands. IF its going to be closed permanently as seems to be the case make sure its closed to all except emergency traffic then there is no excuse about driving over it. i.e. put up some form of chicane or bollards. If its going to be open then open it properly but this farce cannot be allowed to continue. it makes York and its Council look grasping and inept! and will put off visitors........The Cities lifeblood Its time CoYC sorted this once and for all and admitted how they implemented it was wrong and put it right NOW It is a shame this council seem to **** up virtually everything they do. Had it been a private business heads would have rolled but there is no responsibility/accou ntability involved in local authorities[/p][/quote]Completely agree with this. Put automatic bollards in place that will allow public transport and emergency services through and problem solved. The revenue raised by fining the visitors will be lost ten fold by deterring the visitors coming to the city. COYC Just clowns spelled wrongly.. pjfair
  • Score: -316

10:34am Wed 29 Jan 14

YorkPatrol says...

gurgles wrote:
council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .
What a ridiculous comment
[quote][p][bold]gurgles[/bold] wrote: council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .[/p][/quote]What a ridiculous comment YorkPatrol
  • Score: -310

10:46am Wed 29 Jan 14

ozziedog1966 says...

Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
[quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair. ozziedog1966
  • Score: -359

10:49am Wed 29 Jan 14

ozziedog1966 says...

gurgles wrote:
council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .
They are not Wars I agree but its discontent that breeds contempt we cannot let the council carry on unchallenged
[quote][p][bold]gurgles[/bold] wrote: council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .[/p][/quote]They are not Wars I agree but its discontent that breeds contempt we cannot let the council carry on unchallenged ozziedog1966
  • Score: -334

10:50am Wed 29 Jan 14

BKKYorkshireboy says...

Hopefully lots of people will fight their fines and the courts will get clogged up with the non-conformers forcing the Council into a rethink and letting everyone off with their fines! Vive la Revolution!!
Hopefully lots of people will fight their fines and the courts will get clogged up with the non-conformers forcing the Council into a rethink and letting everyone off with their fines! Vive la Revolution!! BKKYorkshireboy
  • Score: -319

11:53am Wed 29 Jan 14

mjgyork says...

Any chance of a sensible debate concerning the Lendal bridge closure ceased when the Tory voters decided to use it as a pre-election populist bandwagon to climb aboard. This from the people who brought us Purple Disaster Buses! Yor avin a larf aint ya?
Any chance of a sensible debate concerning the Lendal bridge closure ceased when the Tory voters decided to use it as a pre-election populist bandwagon to climb aboard. This from the people who brought us Purple Disaster Buses! Yor avin a larf aint ya? mjgyork
  • Score: -341

12:09pm Wed 29 Jan 14

ouseswimmer says...

I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?
I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder? ouseswimmer
  • Score: -335

12:19pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Jackanory2 says...

Boring. Just get on with it.
Boring. Just get on with it. Jackanory2
  • Score: -302

12:21pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Rankled says...

gurgles wrote:
council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .
You're the first person to mention a war on this page.
[quote][p][bold]gurgles[/bold] wrote: council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .[/p][/quote]You're the first person to mention a war on this page. Rankled
  • Score: -344

12:26pm Wed 29 Jan 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

Rankled wrote:
gurgles wrote:
council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .
You're the first person to mention a war on this page.
"Don't push it! Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it go. Let it go!"

John Rambo 1982.
[quote][p][bold]Rankled[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gurgles[/bold] wrote: council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .[/p][/quote]You're the first person to mention a war on this page.[/p][/quote]"Don't push it! Don't push it or I'll give you a war you won't believe. Let it go. Let it go!" John Rambo 1982. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -361

12:32pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Firedrake says...

Whichever side one takes over this issue, it's worth remembering that the vast majority of Press readers do not appear to have expressed any view at all, either in print or on line ... unless, of course, the readership is far smaller than I'd supposed!
Whichever side one takes over this issue, it's worth remembering that the vast majority of Press readers do not appear to have expressed any view at all, either in print or on line ... unless, of course, the readership is far smaller than I'd supposed! Firedrake
  • Score: -267

12:40pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Bo Jolly says...

How to really screw up your future election chances:

a) Close a major part of the inner ring road for weak, ill-defined reasons, forcing people into longer journeys and increasing congestion elsewhere, including residential areas.

b) Pretend that the closure is a trial while actually publicly admitting that the restrictions will stay in place after the trial period and predicating future street 'improvement' plans on the closure staying in place, even though the trial hasn't been finished or analysed yet.

c) Completely ignore the concerns of tourism professionals and businesses in this tourist city who keep telling you that the bridge is a 'tourist trap' and will put tourists off coming to York. Continue to ignore the issue despite your own figures revealing that the majority of fines have been issued to tourists.

d) Despite the obvious massive unpopularity of the scheme, desperately issue press releases cherry picking anything from the traffic data that might show tiny increases in bus journey times, while airily dismissing any suggestion of longer journey times and congestion elsewhere as 'what we expected' and 'not a major change'.
How to really screw up your future election chances: a) Close a major part of the inner ring road for weak, ill-defined reasons, forcing people into longer journeys and increasing congestion elsewhere, including residential areas. b) Pretend that the closure is a trial while actually publicly admitting that the restrictions will stay in place after the trial period and predicating future street 'improvement' plans on the closure staying in place, even though the trial hasn't been finished or analysed yet. c) Completely ignore the concerns of tourism professionals and businesses in this tourist city who keep telling you that the bridge is a 'tourist trap' and will put tourists off coming to York. Continue to ignore the issue despite your own figures revealing that the majority of fines have been issued to tourists. d) Despite the obvious massive unpopularity of the scheme, desperately issue press releases cherry picking anything from the traffic data that might show tiny increases in bus journey times, while airily dismissing any suggestion of longer journey times and congestion elsewhere as 'what we expected' and 'not a major change'. Bo Jolly
  • Score: -330

12:43pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite...
[quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite... Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -302

12:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Saywhat says...

ouseswimmer wrote:
I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?
Think you need to read the sign again. It says no motor vehicles, except buses/taxis between 7am-7pm. You have your AM-PM mixed up. All motor vehicles can use the road After 7pm and up until 7am. !!
[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?[/p][/quote]Think you need to read the sign again. It says no motor vehicles, except buses/taxis between 7am-7pm. You have your AM-PM mixed up. All motor vehicles can use the road After 7pm and up until 7am. !! Saywhat
  • Score: -288

12:52pm Wed 29 Jan 14

eeoodares says...

gurgles wrote:
council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .
Are you serious? Perhaps you need a little perspective. War is a conflict between opposing sides, it does not have to involve tanks! I was going to ask where you went to school but it appears you are still there.
[quote][p][bold]gurgles[/bold] wrote: council 'wars' , motorist 'wars' . cyclikst 'wars' , bridge 'wars' fed up hearing about phoney 'wars' if you really want to know what a 'war' is and learn a little bit about perspective (if you survive that is) go visit Syria and get to see a real War . . .[/p][/quote]Are you serious? Perhaps you need a little perspective. War is a conflict between opposing sides, it does not have to involve tanks! I was going to ask where you went to school but it appears you are still there. eeoodares
  • Score: -339

1:47pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Firedrake says...

eeoodares: I think gurgles is merely complaining about the tedious over-use of a tired metaphore. If so, I'm with him all the way!
eeoodares: I think gurgles is merely complaining about the tedious over-use of a tired metaphore. If so, I'm with him all the way! Firedrake
  • Score: -324

2:09pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Dave Ruddock says...

Just to get things back on the issue, did anyone visit the council events ib the City over Residents, i did and it seems ALL FUTURE improvments depand on Lendal Bridge, So the couuncil already have the closure in sight. Also they are moaning about CUTS CUTS CUTS and want to spend on revamping . Please fix the broken first , Roads Pavements, Pledges, Promises.
Just to get things back on the issue, did anyone visit the council events ib the City over Residents, i did and it seems ALL FUTURE improvments depand on Lendal Bridge, So the couuncil already have the closure in sight. Also they are moaning about CUTS CUTS CUTS and want to spend on revamping . Please fix the broken first , Roads Pavements, Pledges, Promises. Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -357

2:41pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Budgie says...

More Highway robbery, open it up and be quick about it.
More Highway robbery, open it up and be quick about it. Budgie
  • Score: -399

3:27pm Wed 29 Jan 14

sounds weird but says...

Can we refuse to pay council tax too en masse and see what happens?
Can we refuse to pay council tax too en masse and see what happens? sounds weird but
  • Score: -371

3:52pm Wed 29 Jan 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

sounds weird but wrote:
Can we refuse to pay council tax too en masse and see what happens?
Once again there is nothing in law that states that you need to pay council tax.
http://www.getoutofd
ebtfree.org/
But that won't stop them from using their unlawful bully boy tactics to get you to pay.
[quote][p][bold]sounds weird but[/bold] wrote: Can we refuse to pay council tax too en masse and see what happens?[/p][/quote]Once again there is nothing in law that states that you need to pay council tax. http://www.getoutofd ebtfree.org/ But that won't stop them from using their unlawful bully boy tactics to get you to pay. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: -439

4:44pm Wed 29 Jan 14

pedalling paul says...

Visit http://www.cuttingyo
urcaruse.co.uk/ by a well known York Councillor.
Note that I did not say (and have never said) eliminate all car journeys.
Visit http://www.cuttingyo urcaruse.co.uk/ by a well known York Councillor. Note that I did not say (and have never said) eliminate all car journeys. pedalling paul
  • Score: -634

4:47pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Ican'tdecideonaname says...

CoYC say that they are not sending out fines to gain revenue!!! Well if thats the case why didn't they install a bollard/barrier right from the start?? They would have known that not every motorist reads signs especially those who do the journey over the bridge on regular occasions, alternatively a letter through the post explaining about the restricted access on the first 'offence' would have been better then if the driver chooses to 're-offend' they know the consequences
CoYC say that they are not sending out fines to gain revenue!!! Well if thats the case why didn't they install a bollard/barrier right from the start?? They would have known that not every motorist reads signs especially those who do the journey over the bridge on regular occasions, alternatively a letter through the post explaining about the restricted access on the first 'offence' would have been better then if the driver chooses to 're-offend' they know the consequences Ican'tdecideonaname
  • Score: -100

4:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

meme says...

I am neither pro or against the closure but object to the fact the council have made it seem like its a trial when obviously its outcome is predetermined as it will not open again . Its the lies/misinformation/
cherry picking of statistics that sums up this administration and whatever political creed they are, the duplicitous nature of them will ensure they never get my vote in York
we are a democracy that's supposed to be open and transparent. There is nothing wrong with a real trial closure which would either be supported by people or facts or not supported but to do what they are doing is wrong
If you believe in something stand up and say it, but certain Councillors should stop trying to pull the wool over our eyes and stop treating their constituents like moronic children to be tolerated and not listened to
I am neither pro or against the closure but object to the fact the council have made it seem like its a trial when obviously its outcome is predetermined as it will not open again . Its the lies/misinformation/ cherry picking of statistics that sums up this administration and whatever political creed they are, the duplicitous nature of them will ensure they never get my vote in York we are a democracy that's supposed to be open and transparent. There is nothing wrong with a real trial closure which would either be supported by people or facts or not supported but to do what they are doing is wrong If you believe in something stand up and say it, but certain Councillors should stop trying to pull the wool over our eyes and stop treating their constituents like moronic children to be tolerated and not listened to meme
  • Score: -98

5:08pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Ichabod76 says...

pedalling paul wrote:
Visit http://www.cuttingyo

urcaruse.co.uk/ by a well known York Councillor.
Note that I did not say (and have never said) eliminate all car journeys.
Yes Paul she's well known as a paid lobbyist abusing her position as a councillor !
[quote][p][bold]pedalling paul [/bold] wrote: Visit http://www.cuttingyo urcaruse.co.uk/ by a well known York Councillor. Note that I did not say (and have never said) eliminate all car journeys.[/p][/quote]Yes Paul she's well known as a paid lobbyist abusing her position as a councillor ! Ichabod76
  • Score: -89

5:09pm Wed 29 Jan 14

SteveGYork says...

Bo Jolly wrote:
How to really screw up your future election chances:

a) Close a major part of the inner ring road for weak, ill-defined reasons, forcing people into longer journeys and increasing congestion elsewhere, including residential areas.

b) Pretend that the closure is a trial while actually publicly admitting that the restrictions will stay in place after the trial period and predicating future street 'improvement' plans on the closure staying in place, even though the trial hasn't been finished or analysed yet.

c) Completely ignore the concerns of tourism professionals and businesses in this tourist city who keep telling you that the bridge is a 'tourist trap' and will put tourists off coming to York. Continue to ignore the issue despite your own figures revealing that the majority of fines have been issued to tourists.

d) Despite the obvious massive unpopularity of the scheme, desperately issue press releases cherry picking anything from the traffic data that might show tiny increases in bus journey times, while airily dismissing any suggestion of longer journey times and congestion elsewhere as 'what we expected' and 'not a major change'.
I wonder if some of this is malfeasance in public office as well as plain incompetence from political dogma?
[quote][p][bold]Bo Jolly[/bold] wrote: How to really screw up your future election chances: a) Close a major part of the inner ring road for weak, ill-defined reasons, forcing people into longer journeys and increasing congestion elsewhere, including residential areas. b) Pretend that the closure is a trial while actually publicly admitting that the restrictions will stay in place after the trial period and predicating future street 'improvement' plans on the closure staying in place, even though the trial hasn't been finished or analysed yet. c) Completely ignore the concerns of tourism professionals and businesses in this tourist city who keep telling you that the bridge is a 'tourist trap' and will put tourists off coming to York. Continue to ignore the issue despite your own figures revealing that the majority of fines have been issued to tourists. d) Despite the obvious massive unpopularity of the scheme, desperately issue press releases cherry picking anything from the traffic data that might show tiny increases in bus journey times, while airily dismissing any suggestion of longer journey times and congestion elsewhere as 'what we expected' and 'not a major change'.[/p][/quote]I wonder if some of this is malfeasance in public office as well as plain incompetence from political dogma? SteveGYork
  • Score: -104

5:10pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Caecilius says...

Take them to court. I bet the experience will bring about a miraculous improvement in their eyesight in future - maybe even to the point where they'll be able to distinguish red lights and box junctions, as well as signs telling them not to drive across bridges.
Take them to court. I bet the experience will bring about a miraculous improvement in their eyesight in future - maybe even to the point where they'll be able to distinguish red lights and box junctions, as well as signs telling them not to drive across bridges. Caecilius
  • Score: -383

5:16pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Igiveinthen says...

AnotherPointofView wrote:
Director Darren Richardson said that the purpose of the trial was not to generate revenue, but reduce traffic going over the bridge and through the city centre.

That's a bit daft Mr Richardson as Lendal Bridge helps take vehicles AROUND the city centre and NOT through it. Until the council wrecked it, we had an inner ring road.
That's quite true, however one side effect of the bridge restrictions that works in my favour is that I can drive through the city centre with ease, as the route I used to take to get to Fishergate was to drive via Scarcroft Road, Bishopthorpe Road, Nunnery Lane and across Skeldergate Bridge, but as they are all congested now, driving through town is a breeze, I know I still have to get across Castle Mills Bridge, Pargon Street and Fawcett Street, but that's not so bad.
[quote][p][bold]AnotherPointofView[/bold] wrote: Director Darren Richardson said that the purpose of the trial was not to generate revenue, but reduce traffic going over the bridge and through the city centre. That's a bit daft Mr Richardson as Lendal Bridge helps take vehicles AROUND the city centre and NOT through it. Until the council wrecked it, we had an inner ring road.[/p][/quote]That's quite true, however one side effect of the bridge restrictions that works in my favour is that I can drive through the city centre with ease, as the route I used to take to get to Fishergate was to drive via Scarcroft Road, Bishopthorpe Road, Nunnery Lane and across Skeldergate Bridge, but as they are all congested now, driving through town is a breeze, I know I still have to get across Castle Mills Bridge, Pargon Street and Fawcett Street, but that's not so bad. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -99

5:37pm Wed 29 Jan 14

dja358 says...

Visiting York has always been something to look forward to for a relaxing weekend and the weekend of the 18th January 2014 was no exception.
Today 3 PCN's arrived for contravening the Lendal Bridge restrictions , a route i've used many times before whilst visiting the city especially when using a SAT/NAV. So nows its a bus lane! Where's the clear signage....warnings you must not cross...it's certainly not clear.

As a visitor I'm gobsmacked.

If the Council wants to close the bridge to traffic then close it and do is such a way that it's obvious that it is closed to any traffic other than buses and emergency vehicles .The signage is small, unclear at best and cannot be seen at all if following a large vehicle.
All the City Council has achieved in this case is succeeding is loosing our custom as visitors for ever.......and believe me this is no idle threat...I'll never set foot in York again.
Visiting York has always been something to look forward to for a relaxing weekend and the weekend of the 18th January 2014 was no exception. Today 3 PCN's arrived for contravening the Lendal Bridge restrictions , a route i've used many times before whilst visiting the city especially when using a SAT/NAV. So nows its a bus lane! Where's the clear signage....warnings you must not cross...it's certainly not clear. As a visitor I'm gobsmacked. If the Council wants to close the bridge to traffic then close it and do is such a way that it's obvious that it is closed to any traffic other than buses and emergency vehicles .The signage is small, unclear at best and cannot be seen at all if following a large vehicle. All the City Council has achieved in this case is succeeding is loosing our custom as visitors for ever.......and believe me this is no idle threat...I'll never set foot in York again. dja358
  • Score: -78

5:40pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Igiveinthen says...

Caecilius wrote:
Take them to court. I bet the experience will bring about a miraculous improvement in their eyesight in future - maybe even to the point where they'll be able to distinguish red lights and box junctions, as well as signs telling them not to drive across bridges.
As you are obviously so self righteous and cannot possibly do any wrong, you should know that they have the right to go before the independent 'Traffic Penalty Tribunal' before that can be considered, and in all probability the CoYC won't contest it.
[quote][p][bold]Caecilius[/bold] wrote: Take them to court. I bet the experience will bring about a miraculous improvement in their eyesight in future - maybe even to the point where they'll be able to distinguish red lights and box junctions, as well as signs telling them not to drive across bridges.[/p][/quote]As you are obviously so self righteous and cannot possibly do any wrong, you should know that they have the right to go before the independent 'Traffic Penalty Tribunal' before that can be considered, and in all probability the CoYC won't contest it. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -39

5:50pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Oyy you says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite...
Haha, wound you up didn't I, ding.....
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite...[/p][/quote]Haha, wound you up didn't I, ding..... Oyy you
  • Score: -119

5:52pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Oyy you says...

ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on.
[quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on. Oyy you
  • Score: -81

5:56pm Wed 29 Jan 14

citizens_on_patrol says...

Saywhat wrote:
ouseswimmer wrote:
I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?
Think you need to read the sign again. It says no motor vehicles, except buses/taxis between 7am-7pm. You have your AM-PM mixed up. All motor vehicles can use the road After 7pm and up until 7am. !!
If we take the signs one at a time:
The circular sign with the red border, sign 619 in the The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002, states "Motor Vehicles Prohibited". This would therefore mean that access is prohibited at all times to all types of traffic.
The sign underneath then relaxes the prohibition under the following circumstances:
1. Buses and taxis may enter between 7am and 7pm, but at no other times.
2. Loading may take place between 10am and 4pm, but at no other times.

It is not clear when the prohibition is in operation.
If the times were at the top of the supplementary sign it would then read:
1. motor vehicles prohibited between 7am and 7pm
2. Except buses and local taxis
3. and for loading between 10am and 4pm.
[quote][p][bold]Saywhat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?[/p][/quote]Think you need to read the sign again. It says no motor vehicles, except buses/taxis between 7am-7pm. You have your AM-PM mixed up. All motor vehicles can use the road After 7pm and up until 7am. !![/p][/quote]If we take the signs one at a time: The circular sign with the red border, sign 619 in the The Traffic Signs Regulations and General Directions 2002, states "Motor Vehicles Prohibited". This would therefore mean that access is prohibited at all times to all types of traffic. The sign underneath then relaxes the prohibition under the following circumstances: 1. Buses and taxis may enter between 7am and 7pm, but at no other times. 2. Loading may take place between 10am and 4pm, but at no other times. It is not clear when the prohibition is in operation. If the times were at the top of the supplementary sign it would then read: 1. motor vehicles prohibited between 7am and 7pm 2. Except buses and local taxis 3. and for loading between 10am and 4pm. citizens_on_patrol
  • Score: -164

7:33pm Wed 29 Jan 14

ouseswimmer says...

Saywhat wrote:
ouseswimmer wrote:
I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?
Think you need to read the sign again. It says no motor vehicles, except buses/taxis between 7am-7pm. You have your AM-PM mixed up. All motor vehicles can use the road After 7pm and up until 7am. !!
Sorry but what the sign clearly says is 'no motor vehicles' then below it states that between 7am and 7pm buses and taxis are allowed. This means no motor vehicles after 7PM until 7AM.
[quote][p][bold]Saywhat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?[/p][/quote]Think you need to read the sign again. It says no motor vehicles, except buses/taxis between 7am-7pm. You have your AM-PM mixed up. All motor vehicles can use the road After 7pm and up until 7am. !![/p][/quote]Sorry but what the sign clearly says is 'no motor vehicles' then below it states that between 7am and 7pm buses and taxis are allowed. This means no motor vehicles after 7PM until 7AM. ouseswimmer
  • Score: -358

7:55pm Wed 29 Jan 14

CaroleBaines says...

Poor signage was always going to result in this kind of fiasco and an outside investigation. Its not just Labour councils, as far as I can see, all councils seems like bumblers and money wasters. What happens when you let anyone become a councillor.
Poor signage was always going to result in this kind of fiasco and an outside investigation. Its not just Labour councils, as far as I can see, all councils seems like bumblers and money wasters. What happens when you let anyone become a councillor. CaroleBaines
  • Score: -334

8:10pm Wed 29 Jan 14

jake777 says...

Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
well said some one else with brains.
[quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]well said some one else with brains. jake777
  • Score: -475

8:11pm Wed 29 Jan 14

jake777 says...

NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it.
www.getoutofdebtfree

.org
Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow.
People need to open their eyes and start fighting back.
get over it its going to close end of.
[quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it. www.getoutofdebtfree .org Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow. People need to open their eyes and start fighting back.[/p][/quote]get over it its going to close end of. jake777
  • Score: -449

8:19pm Wed 29 Jan 14

jake777 says...

ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
better still charge everyone who wants to drive through york £10 every time,get a grip nobody needs to drive anywhere, use your feet or take public transporet.
[quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]better still charge everyone who wants to drive through york £10 every time,get a grip nobody needs to drive anywhere, use your feet or take public transporet. jake777
  • Score: -327

8:22pm Wed 29 Jan 14

jake777 says...

ouseswimmer wrote:
I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?
none because again if you open your eyes they are allowed, take your blinkers off.
[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?[/p][/quote]none because again if you open your eyes they are allowed, take your blinkers off. jake777
  • Score: -427

8:39pm Wed 29 Jan 14

Igiveinthen says...

jake777 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
well said some one else with brains.
That's good coming from someone who thinks all the drivers who have received PCN's should be charged with 'driving without due care and attention' or even more seriously 'dangerous driving', lord luv a duck!!!, if you had brains mate you would be extremely dangerous!
[quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]well said some one else with brains.[/p][/quote]That's good coming from someone who thinks all the drivers who have received PCN's should be charged with 'driving without due care and attention' or even more seriously 'dangerous driving', lord luv a duck!!!, if you had brains mate you would be extremely dangerous! Igiveinthen
  • Score: 171

9:58pm Wed 29 Jan 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

jake777 wrote:
NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it.
www.getoutofdebtfree


.org
Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow.
People need to open their eyes and start fighting back.
get over it its going to close end of.
It already is closed you fool.
[quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it. www.getoutofdebtfree .org Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow. People need to open their eyes and start fighting back.[/p][/quote]get over it its going to close end of.[/p][/quote]It already is closed you fool. NoNewsIsGoodNews
  • Score: 770

10:36pm Wed 29 Jan 14

cas540 says...

ouseswimmer wrote:
I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?
Just a shame there are no comments on the Coppergate story cos that would have been good reading. Hope the Muppets have to pay it all back
[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?[/p][/quote]Just a shame there are no comments on the Coppergate story cos that would have been good reading. Hope the Muppets have to pay it all back cas540
  • Score: 702

10:43pm Wed 29 Jan 14

strangebuttrue? says...

So the council thinks sending in the bailiffs is the answer - "standard practice".
Go on get stuck in lets have a real go at the people who visit our city that will show them and probably put even more off coming as it becomes national news. Brilliant!!!
So the council thinks sending in the bailiffs is the answer - "standard practice". Go on get stuck in lets have a real go at the people who visit our city that will show them and probably put even more off coming as it becomes national news. Brilliant!!! strangebuttrue?
  • Score: 1009

12:35am Thu 30 Jan 14

inthesticks says...

We do seem to attract a lot of folk from Barnsley don`t we?
We do seem to attract a lot of folk from Barnsley don`t we? inthesticks
  • Score: -7

1:30am Thu 30 Jan 14

eeoodares says...

ouseswimmer wrote:
Saywhat wrote:
ouseswimmer wrote:
I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?
Think you need to read the sign again. It says no motor vehicles, except buses/taxis between 7am-7pm. You have your AM-PM mixed up. All motor vehicles can use the road After 7pm and up until 7am. !!
Sorry but what the sign clearly says is 'no motor vehicles' then below it states that between 7am and 7pm buses and taxis are allowed. This means no motor vehicles after 7PM until 7AM.
No vehicles....apart from, buses, sightseeing buses, Royal Mail vans, private hire and hackney cabs, council vehicles, electric road trains.....etc!

When we get the chance, vote hem out and keep them out. This party has been taken over by zealots. The Conservatives have said they will re-open the bridge...
[quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saywhat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ouseswimmer[/bold] wrote: I've just read the Coppergate story and it is hilarious. The sign clearly states NO motor traffic after 7PM until 7AM! How many tickets have the buses and taxis collected I wonder?[/p][/quote]Think you need to read the sign again. It says no motor vehicles, except buses/taxis between 7am-7pm. You have your AM-PM mixed up. All motor vehicles can use the road After 7pm and up until 7am. !![/p][/quote]Sorry but what the sign clearly says is 'no motor vehicles' then below it states that between 7am and 7pm buses and taxis are allowed. This means no motor vehicles after 7PM until 7AM.[/p][/quote]No vehicles....apart from, buses, sightseeing buses, Royal Mail vans, private hire and hackney cabs, council vehicles, electric road trains.....etc! When we get the chance, vote hem out and keep them out. This party has been taken over by zealots. The Conservatives have said they will re-open the bridge... eeoodares
  • Score: 10

3:54am Thu 30 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

With all these people keep proclaiming they were 'wrongly fined' or 'did not see any signs' or just simply not paying the fines so they escalate to £90, anybody would think such people are simply trying to find a way of breaking the law and not facing the music over it.
With all these people keep proclaiming they were 'wrongly fined' or 'did not see any signs' or just simply not paying the fines so they escalate to £90, anybody would think such people are simply trying to find a way of breaking the law and not facing the music over it. Magicman!
  • Score: -619

8:40am Thu 30 Jan 14

mjgyork says...

With the amount of large negative scores for comments on this, it seems that the Toryvoters have been very busy with their fingers again.
With the amount of large negative scores for comments on this, it seems that the Toryvoters have been very busy with their fingers again. mjgyork
  • Score: -10

10:03am Thu 30 Jan 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

Oyy you wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite...
Haha, wound you up didn't I, ding.....
no?? and with words like ding I don’t think you'd have the intelligence to. Aren’t you due on the Jeremy Kyle show or something?
[quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite...[/p][/quote]Haha, wound you up didn't I, ding.....[/p][/quote]no?? and with words like ding I don’t think you'd have the intelligence to. Aren’t you due on the Jeremy Kyle show or something? Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: 7

10:09am Thu 30 Jan 14

Oyy you says...

Archiebold the 1st wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite...
Haha, wound you up didn't I, ding.....
no?? and with words like ding I don’t think you'd have the intelligence to. Aren’t you due on the Jeremy Kyle show or something?
Another bite, total plonker. Go get a life......
[quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite...[/p][/quote]Haha, wound you up didn't I, ding.....[/p][/quote]no?? and with words like ding I don’t think you'd have the intelligence to. Aren’t you due on the Jeremy Kyle show or something?[/p][/quote]Another bite, total plonker. Go get a life...... Oyy you
  • Score: -12

10:58am Thu 30 Jan 14

Cheeky face says...

Citizens on patrol is spot on re Coppergate and Lendal Bridge signs. Top down legalese principles on signs and plates should be known by efficient councils. I told the City of York council of poorly sited and worded signs in August; but still no reply, despite almost weekly reminders.


The Essex County Council gave £1.2m back to motorists because they failed to sign bus lanes in Colchester in accordance with the regs and the traffic signs manual. Colchester tax payers want their local highways chief sacked!

A visit by the Traffic Trinunal adjudicator is due.
Citizens on patrol is spot on re Coppergate and Lendal Bridge signs. Top down legalese principles on signs and plates should be known by efficient councils. I told the City of York council of poorly sited and worded signs in August; but still no reply, despite almost weekly reminders. The Essex County Council gave £1.2m back to motorists because they failed to sign bus lanes in Colchester in accordance with the regs and the traffic signs manual. Colchester tax payers want their local highways chief sacked! A visit by the Traffic Trinunal adjudicator is due. Cheeky face
  • Score: -42

11:38am Thu 30 Jan 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

Oyy you wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Archiebold the 1st wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite...
Haha, wound you up didn't I, ding.....
no?? and with words like ding I don’t think you'd have the intelligence to. Aren’t you due on the Jeremy Kyle show or something?
Another bite, total plonker. Go get a life......
??hahaha what are you on??
[quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Archiebold the 1st[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]ignore oyy you he is just a drainer after a bite...[/p][/quote]Haha, wound you up didn't I, ding.....[/p][/quote]no?? and with words like ding I don’t think you'd have the intelligence to. Aren’t you due on the Jeremy Kyle show or something?[/p][/quote]Another bite, total plonker. Go get a life......[/p][/quote]??hahaha what are you on?? Archiebold the 1st
  • Score: -33

3:08pm Thu 30 Jan 14

T'Marcus says...

chelk wrote:
Waiting to see who gets all the high minus scores as they are the comments that are worth reading after the Moron has adjusted the scores
The Moron in the Department of York Council Propaganda is at it again.
Name and shame him/her.
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: Waiting to see who gets all the high minus scores as they are the comments that are worth reading after the Moron has adjusted the scores[/p][/quote]The Moron in the Department of York Council Propaganda is at it again. Name and shame him/her. T'Marcus
  • Score: -15

3:09pm Thu 30 Jan 14

T'Marcus says...

chelk wrote:
Waiting to see who gets all the high minus scores as they are the comments that are worth reading after the Moron has adjusted the scores
The Moron in the Department of York Council Propaganda is at it again.
Name and shame him/her.
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: Waiting to see who gets all the high minus scores as they are the comments that are worth reading after the Moron has adjusted the scores[/p][/quote]The Moron in the Department of York Council Propaganda is at it again. Name and shame him/her. T'Marcus
  • Score: -25

3:20pm Thu 30 Jan 14

ozziedog1966 says...

Oyy you wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on.
Well if that's the case you are obviously in some sort of relationship with James Alexander as you are clearly in love with the man everybody loves to loathe.
[quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on.[/p][/quote]Well if that's the case you are obviously in some sort of relationship with James Alexander as you are clearly in love with the man everybody loves to loathe. ozziedog1966
  • Score: -23

5:47pm Thu 30 Jan 14

Igiveinthen says...

ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on.
Well if that's the case you are obviously in some sort of relationship with James Alexander as you are clearly in love with the man everybody loves to loathe.
Don't you realise that 'Oyy you' and 'jake777 are a couple of retards, and can't make a sensible comment regarding the Lendal Bridge issue, so have to make puerile comments instead, I know it's very hard to do but try to ignore them if you can.
[quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on.[/p][/quote]Well if that's the case you are obviously in some sort of relationship with James Alexander as you are clearly in love with the man everybody loves to loathe.[/p][/quote]Don't you realise that 'Oyy you' and 'jake777 are a couple of retards, and can't make a sensible comment regarding the Lendal Bridge issue, so have to make puerile comments instead, I know it's very hard to do but try to ignore them if you can. Igiveinthen
  • Score: -24

8:46am Fri 31 Jan 14

Oyy you says...

Igiveinthen wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on.
Well if that's the case you are obviously in some sort of relationship with James Alexander as you are clearly in love with the man everybody loves to loathe.
Don't you realise that 'Oyy you' and 'jake777 are a couple of retards, and can't make a sensible comment regarding the Lendal Bridge issue, so have to make puerile comments instead, I know it's very hard to do but try to ignore them if you can.
Retard
[quote][p][bold]Igiveinthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on.[/p][/quote]Well if that's the case you are obviously in some sort of relationship with James Alexander as you are clearly in love with the man everybody loves to loathe.[/p][/quote]Don't you realise that 'Oyy you' and 'jake777 are a couple of retards, and can't make a sensible comment regarding the Lendal Bridge issue, so have to make puerile comments instead, I know it's very hard to do but try to ignore them if you can.[/p][/quote]Retard Oyy you
  • Score: -5

8:42am Sat 1 Feb 14

meinit says...

Just had leaflet through door say the bridge is staying closed after the trial never saw that coming
Just had leaflet through door say the bridge is staying closed after the trial never saw that coming meinit
  • Score: 5

8:56am Sat 1 Feb 14

tommytuckamotor says...

anistasia wrote:
Chasing the people who've not paid their fine what cost to York residents.
Ironically today is free parking day in York , the council has waved fees to get people into the city ....... The next minute they're forcing the vehicles out . York council .... Say no more !
[quote][p][bold]anistasia[/bold] wrote: Chasing the people who've not paid their fine what cost to York residents.[/p][/quote]Ironically today is free parking day in York , the council has waved fees to get people into the city ....... The next minute they're forcing the vehicles out . York council .... Say no more ! tommytuckamotor
  • Score: 4

8:59am Sat 1 Feb 14

tommytuckamotor says...

Ironically today is free parking day in York , the council has waved fees to get people into the city ....... The next minute they're forcing the vehicles out . York council .... Say no more !
Ironically today is free parking day in York , the council has waved fees to get people into the city ....... The next minute they're forcing the vehicles out . York council .... Say no more ! tommytuckamotor
  • Score: 5

12:57pm Sun 2 Feb 14

sniper 9964 says...

Why lendal and not ouse or skeldergate. ? Its because its right next to the councils shiney new offices.
Why lendal and not ouse or skeldergate. ? Its because its right next to the councils shiney new offices. sniper 9964
  • Score: 5

11:38pm Sun 2 Feb 14

jake777 says...

JHardacre wrote:
jake777 wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
better still charge everyone who wants to drive through york £10 every time,get a grip nobody needs to drive anywhere, use your feet or take public transporet.
Plonker!
yer you may well be muppet.
[quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]better still charge everyone who wants to drive through york £10 every time,get a grip nobody needs to drive anywhere, use your feet or take public transporet.[/p][/quote]Plonker![/p][/quote]yer you may well be muppet. jake777
  • Score: -3

11:40pm Sun 2 Feb 14

jake777 says...

Oyy you wrote:
Igiveinthen wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
ozziedog1966 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.
Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on.
Well if that's the case you are obviously in some sort of relationship with James Alexander as you are clearly in love with the man everybody loves to loathe.
Don't you realise that 'Oyy you' and 'jake777 are a couple of retards, and can't make a sensible comment regarding the Lendal Bridge issue, so have to make puerile comments instead, I know it's very hard to do but try to ignore them if you can.
Retard
why should he muppet.
[quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Igiveinthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ozziedog1966[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]Oyy you obviously rides a bicycle through the city which is fine but there are people that don't wish too. If I were to shut a bridge to reduce traffic and help pollution and local businesses it would have to be Ouse Bridge it would make much more sense and as we are told lendal is a Trial (Yes of Course it is )Why don't they trial Ouse Bridge only seems fair.[/p][/quote]Don't rid a bike actually. Big ozone polluting 4x4 that's me. Fella, jog on.[/p][/quote]Well if that's the case you are obviously in some sort of relationship with James Alexander as you are clearly in love with the man everybody loves to loathe.[/p][/quote]Don't you realise that 'Oyy you' and 'jake777 are a couple of retards, and can't make a sensible comment regarding the Lendal Bridge issue, so have to make puerile comments instead, I know it's very hard to do but try to ignore them if you can.[/p][/quote]Retard[/p][/quote]why should he muppet. jake777
  • Score: -3

11:44pm Sun 2 Feb 14

jake777 says...

NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
jake777 wrote:
NoNewsIsGoodNews wrote:
A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it.
www.getoutofdebtfree



.org
Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow.
People need to open their eyes and start fighting back.
get over it its going to close end of.
It already is closed you fool.
how would you know muppet.
[quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NoNewsIsGoodNews[/bold] wrote: A PCN (Penalty Charge Notice) is just an invitation to contract with the person who has issued it. There is nothing in law that says you need to pay it. www.getoutofdebtfree .org Have all the info needed to fight this corrupt council and it's Lendal Bridge cash cow. People need to open their eyes and start fighting back.[/p][/quote]get over it its going to close end of.[/p][/quote]It already is closed you fool.[/p][/quote]how would you know muppet. jake777
  • Score: -2

11:46pm Sun 2 Feb 14

jake777 says...

Igiveinthen wrote:
jake777 wrote:
Oyy you wrote:
Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....
well said some one else with brains.
That's good coming from someone who thinks all the drivers who have received PCN's should be charged with 'driving without due care and attention' or even more seriously 'dangerous driving', lord luv a duck!!!, if you had brains mate you would be extremely dangerous!
more brains than you because i dont break the law muppet.
[quote][p][bold]Igiveinthen[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jake777[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oyy you[/bold] wrote: Keep it shut, best thing that ever happened in York , well done James Alexander keep up the good work.....[/p][/quote]well said some one else with brains.[/p][/quote]That's good coming from someone who thinks all the drivers who have received PCN's should be charged with 'driving without due care and attention' or even more seriously 'dangerous driving', lord luv a duck!!!, if you had brains mate you would be extremely dangerous![/p][/quote]more brains than you because i dont break the law muppet. jake777
  • Score: -1

12:25pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Cheeky face says...

Is the recent leaflet extending Lendal Bridge closure legal?

Has it been delivered to those in York boundary only?

Have they approached private landlords who live out of the council's area?
Is the recent leaflet extending Lendal Bridge closure legal? Has it been delivered to those in York boundary only? Have they approached private landlords who live out of the council's area? Cheeky face
  • Score: 0

10:52pm Mon 3 Feb 14

silentmajor says...

Back on the 3rd August 2013 Mr James Alexander spoke almost clearly on Facebook as Leader of CoYC about the bridge restrictions:

https://www.facebook
.com/#!/saynotolenda
lbridgeclose/posts/4
94149537328314?strea
m_ref=10

His comments make for interesting reading now that the trial period is over and yet the restrictions are being extended without further consultation.
Back on the 3rd August 2013 Mr James Alexander spoke almost clearly on Facebook as Leader of CoYC about the bridge restrictions: https://www.facebook .com/#!/saynotolenda lbridgeclose/posts/4 94149537328314?strea m_ref=10 His comments make for interesting reading now that the trial period is over and yet the restrictions are being extended without further consultation. silentmajor
  • Score: 0

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