Consultation on £2.2m revamp of York city centre

Consultation on £2.2m revamp of York city centre

The statue of William Etty

Artist's impression of the Fossgate area

Artist's impression of Exhibition Square

Artist's impression of Duncombe Place

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A £2.2 MILLION new look for a York square, a city-centre junction and one of its shopping streets has been unveiled.

The three projects in Exhibition Square, Fossgate and at the junction of Duncombe Place and Blake Street will be the next stage of City of York Council’s Reinvigorate York facelift scheme, and will create more space for pedestrians.

The plans would mean bus changes in Exhibition Square, with a single lane for services, changes to bus stops, a new shelter with information screens and only one stand for tour buses, while some service times may alter.

Part of the square would be repaved, with the work estimated to cost £1 million.

Footpaths at Duncombe Place/Blake Street would be widened and the traffic island removed, with the road being raised to slow traffic down. Pedestrian crossings would be improved, more cycle stands installed and the mouth of St Leonard’s Place narrowed at a total cost of £875,000.

Fossgate would have wider pavements with seats, new cycle-parking and changes to its Pavement entrance through a £345,000 scheme, with the aim of making it a daytime footstreet.

A four-week consultation on the proposals begins today.

Previous Reinvigorate York work has included a revamp of King’s Square. Its road will be resurfaced and the square refurbished through further work starting in March. Future phases will focus on Micklegate and the Parliament Street/Piccadilly/Coppergate junction.

The council says the fountain and statue of artist William Etty are a “major challenge” to improving Exhibition Square, as conservation experts feel they should be separated to stop water splashing and eroding the statue.

The council has said the fountain blocks pedestrians and limits use of the square, which has been branded “poor and deteriorating”.

The scheme will run alongside the Theatre Bus Interchange project to improve bus facilities through the council’s £3.5 million allocation from the Better Bus Area Fund.

Reinvigorate York chairman Sir Ron Cooke has said some of York’s public spaces have become “tired and shabby” and need urgent attention.

He said this was “a unique opportunity to reinvigorate the core area.”

Coun Dave Merrett, council cabinet member for planning, said Reinvigorate York was intended to have “a lasting legacy” which would help businesses and cut city-centre traffic, and outline “a more confident vision” for York.

The consultation runs until February 21. Information is being sent to all York homes or can be viewed at york.gov.uk/reinvigorateyork. The first of four consultation events will be from 10am to 4pm tomorrow in St Sampson’s Square.

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12:14pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Garrowby Turnoff says...

Improved litter control would help York generally. In the theme parks in Florida litter only has a "life" of 5 minutes - goodness knows what the life of litter in York has. 5 Days?
Improved litter control would help York generally. In the theme parks in Florida litter only has a "life" of 5 minutes - goodness knows what the life of litter in York has. 5 Days? Garrowby Turnoff
  • Score: -1199

12:34pm Fri 24 Jan 14

tobefair says...

Where are they getting the money from?
£1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today.
They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions.
It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer.
Where are they getting the money from? £1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today. They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions. It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer. tobefair
  • Score: -205

12:46pm Fri 24 Jan 14

BL2 says...

Spending money on fixing things rather than wasting it would be a good start! It's criminal the amount of money they are wasting on unneeded vanity projects!
Spending money on fixing things rather than wasting it would be a good start! It's criminal the amount of money they are wasting on unneeded vanity projects! BL2
  • Score: -214

12:54pm Fri 24 Jan 14

allijew says...

We must not have unsightly bus stops outside the lovely new hotel in Exhibition Square !
We must not have unsightly bus stops outside the lovely new hotel in Exhibition Square ! allijew
  • Score: -222

12:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

yawn.. says...

After all the money that has been chucked away on the controversial Kings Square vandalism isn't it high time these clowns had their decision making privileges revoked.?? Give us back our front line services.!!
After all the money that has been chucked away on the controversial Kings Square vandalism isn't it high time these clowns had their decision making privileges revoked.?? Give us back our front line services.!! yawn..
  • Score: -234

1:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

courier46 says...

once again, what about us, the council tax paying locals, who keep been told we don't have money to keep everyday services going?.
Where is this money coming from that keeps getting wasted on things that do NOT help York residents.
once again, what about us, the council tax paying locals, who keep been told we don't have money to keep everyday services going?. Where is this money coming from that keeps getting wasted on things that do NOT help York residents. courier46
  • Score: -169

1:07pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bolero says...

Try walking down Coney Street or Davygate and indeed many other streets in the City centre without tripping over raised paving stones or setts. These things are urgent and necessary but unfortunately do not feed the ravenous ego of a typical labour spendthrift of a Council leader.
Try walking down Coney Street or Davygate and indeed many other streets in the City centre without tripping over raised paving stones or setts. These things are urgent and necessary but unfortunately do not feed the ravenous ego of a typical labour spendthrift of a Council leader. bolero
  • Score: -152

1:29pm Fri 24 Jan 14

m dee says...

I believe they promised a traffic free area to the new Hotel owners .
I believe they promised a traffic free area to the new Hotel owners . m dee
  • Score: -193

1:30pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Ousetunes says...

"Future phases will focus on Micklegate and the Parliament Street/Piccadilly/Co
ppergate junction."

Worrying. That'll be goodbye to the cobble stones on Micklegate then. Perhaps they'll demolish Micklegate Bar whilst they're at it?
"Future phases will focus on Micklegate and the Parliament Street/Piccadilly/Co ppergate junction." Worrying. That'll be goodbye to the cobble stones on Micklegate then. Perhaps they'll demolish Micklegate Bar whilst they're at it? Ousetunes
  • Score: -233

1:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

beretta says...

Raving monster Looney party most be running York City Council!!!!!!
They can't spend OUR money on road repairs, road gritting, waste disposal depots Ect Ect
WHY doesn't the council consult the York tax paying public on where they want our money spending, at the end of the day they are only OUR, the York tax payers servants
Raving monster Looney party most be running York City Council!!!!!! They can't spend OUR money on road repairs, road gritting, waste disposal depots Ect Ect WHY doesn't the council consult the York tax paying public on where they want our money spending, at the end of the day they are only OUR, the York tax payers servants beretta
  • Score: -168

1:56pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bloodaxe says...

Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
Improved litter control would help York generally. In the theme parks in Florida litter only has a "life" of 5 minutes - goodness knows what the life of litter in York has. 5 Days?
City centre isn't at all bad. It's the peripheral roads which need attention.
[quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: Improved litter control would help York generally. In the theme parks in Florida litter only has a "life" of 5 minutes - goodness knows what the life of litter in York has. 5 Days?[/p][/quote]City centre isn't at all bad. It's the peripheral roads which need attention. bloodaxe
  • Score: -228

1:57pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bloodaxe says...

yawn.. wrote:
After all the money that has been chucked away on the controversial Kings Square vandalism isn't it high time these clowns had their decision making privileges revoked.?? Give us back our front line services.!!
Yawn ? Indeed.
[quote][p][bold]yawn..[/bold] wrote: After all the money that has been chucked away on the controversial Kings Square vandalism isn't it high time these clowns had their decision making privileges revoked.?? Give us back our front line services.!![/p][/quote]Yawn ? Indeed. bloodaxe
  • Score: -225

2:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

yorkandproud says...

tobefair wrote:
Where are they getting the money from?
£1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today.
They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions.
It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer.
"Where are they getting the money from". Rearrange this well known phrase or saying. " Bridge Ripoff Lendal ". Say no more, nudge nudge, wink wink.
[quote][p][bold]tobefair[/bold] wrote: Where are they getting the money from? £1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today. They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions. It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer.[/p][/quote]"Where are they getting the money from". Rearrange this well known phrase or saying. " Bridge Ripoff Lendal ". Say no more, nudge nudge, wink wink. yorkandproud
  • Score: -173

2:01pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bloodaxe says...

bolero wrote:
Try walking down Coney Street or Davygate and indeed many other streets in the City centre without tripping over raised paving stones or setts. These things are urgent and necessary but unfortunately do not feed the ravenous ego of a typical labour spendthrift of a Council leader.
Isn't repaving King's Square and Exhibition Square addressing just that sort of problem ? One might ask why some streets are in such a state; allowing large vehicles into the centre and then permitting them to drive onto pavements could be one reason.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: Try walking down Coney Street or Davygate and indeed many other streets in the City centre without tripping over raised paving stones or setts. These things are urgent and necessary but unfortunately do not feed the ravenous ego of a typical labour spendthrift of a Council leader.[/p][/quote]Isn't repaving King's Square and Exhibition Square addressing just that sort of problem ? One might ask why some streets are in such a state; allowing large vehicles into the centre and then permitting them to drive onto pavements could be one reason. bloodaxe
  • Score: -211

2:05pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bloodaxe says...

beretta wrote:
Raving monster Looney party most be running York City Council!!!!!!
They can't spend OUR money on road repairs, road gritting, waste disposal depots Ect Ect
WHY doesn't the council consult the York tax paying public on where they want our money spending, at the end of the day they are only OUR, the York tax payers servants
Monster Raving Loony Party. At least get our name right. We're not on the city council. (What does ect ect mean ?)
[quote][p][bold]beretta[/bold] wrote: Raving monster Looney party most be running York City Council!!!!!! They can't spend OUR money on road repairs, road gritting, waste disposal depots Ect Ect WHY doesn't the council consult the York tax paying public on where they want our money spending, at the end of the day they are only OUR, the York tax payers servants[/p][/quote]Monster Raving Loony Party. At least get our name right. We're not on the city council. (What does ect ect mean ?) bloodaxe
  • Score: -185

2:08pm Fri 24 Jan 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

It seems more than a little premature to be consulting on major changes in Exhibition Square and Duncomb Place before the conclusions of the Lendal trial are published, which is approx 2 months after the trial ends (late March).

One could be forgiven for concluding the intended outcome was already known and allured to in the veiled comments in the report above.

You cannot genuinely consult on this issue until all the facts are known, key element being Lendal and that outcome will be an influencing factor for public opinion.

Labour manifesto 2011, Listening to Residents, Labour will make consultation genuine, making sure people are aware of what they can and can't expect from the council.

Talking the talk but not walking the walk.
It seems more than a little premature to be consulting on major changes in Exhibition Square and Duncomb Place before the conclusions of the Lendal trial are published, which is approx 2 months after the trial ends (late March). One could be forgiven for concluding the intended outcome was already known and allured to in the veiled comments in the report above. You cannot genuinely consult on this issue until all the facts are known, key element being Lendal and that outcome will be an influencing factor for public opinion. Labour manifesto 2011, Listening to Residents, Labour will make consultation genuine, making sure people are aware of what they can and can't expect from the council. Talking the talk but not walking the walk. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -147

3:03pm Fri 24 Jan 14

meme says...

so closing Lendal bridge was a trial only was it?
who does CoYC think they were ever kidding???
so closing Lendal bridge was a trial only was it? who does CoYC think they were ever kidding??? meme
  • Score: -93

3:19pm Fri 24 Jan 14

AntMcM says...

All part of the grand plan! The Lendal Bridge closure is a foregone conclusion so of course Exhibition Square is next, we can't have buses cluttering up the front of the new hotel. And why hasn't work started on the hotel yet? Anytime this Council feels like consulting residents we'll be waiting with baited breath. Then a new Council will be voted in and undo everything Labour has done at vast expense! How about a new Residents First experience - "Councillors meet the People and answer their questions truthfully". Sorry, just daydreaming there.
All part of the grand plan! The Lendal Bridge closure is a foregone conclusion so of course Exhibition Square is next, we can't have buses cluttering up the front of the new hotel. And why hasn't work started on the hotel yet? Anytime this Council feels like consulting residents we'll be waiting with baited breath. Then a new Council will be voted in and undo everything Labour has done at vast expense! How about a new Residents First experience - "Councillors meet the People and answer their questions truthfully". Sorry, just daydreaming there. AntMcM
  • Score: -106

3:20pm Fri 24 Jan 14

SethArmstrong says...

This and the lendal bridge closure (emissions) is all about the new hotel, i'd put money on it.
This and the lendal bridge closure (emissions) is all about the new hotel, i'd put money on it. SethArmstrong
  • Score: -111

3:27pm Fri 24 Jan 14

dementia says...

How can it be sense to have so much wasted Capital expenditure presumably at some enhanced borrowing cost. Can we have a freeze on all Council capital expenditure initiatives until they fix the roads
How can it be sense to have so much wasted Capital expenditure presumably at some enhanced borrowing cost. Can we have a freeze on all Council capital expenditure initiatives until they fix the roads dementia
  • Score: -114

3:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bolero says...

There will be a grand consultation come May 2015 and we're already on countdown. Roll on.
There will be a grand consultation come May 2015 and we're already on countdown. Roll on. bolero
  • Score: -87

4:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

wildthing666 says...

tobefair wrote:
Where are they getting the money from?
£1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today.
They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions.
It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer.
Probably from all those who are having to pay at least 30% council tax for the first time.
[quote][p][bold]tobefair[/bold] wrote: Where are they getting the money from? £1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today. They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions. It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer.[/p][/quote]Probably from all those who are having to pay at least 30% council tax for the first time. wildthing666
  • Score: -102

5:05pm Fri 24 Jan 14

DEKKA says...

Ousetunes wrote:
"Future phases will focus on Micklegate and the Parliament Street/Piccadilly/Co

ppergate junction."

Worrying. That'll be goodbye to the cobble stones on Micklegate then. Perhaps they'll demolish Micklegate Bar whilst they're at it?
I certainly hope so as they are lethal in the winter. However, I believe they are part of York's heritage and can't be done away with.
[quote][p][bold]Ousetunes[/bold] wrote: "Future phases will focus on Micklegate and the Parliament Street/Piccadilly/Co ppergate junction." Worrying. That'll be goodbye to the cobble stones on Micklegate then. Perhaps they'll demolish Micklegate Bar whilst they're at it?[/p][/quote]I certainly hope so as they are lethal in the winter. However, I believe they are part of York's heritage and can't be done away with. DEKKA
  • Score: -140

5:06pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Poppy01 says...

bolero wrote:
Try walking down Coney Street or Davygate and indeed many other streets in the City centre without tripping over raised paving stones or setts. These things are urgent and necessary but unfortunately do not feed the ravenous ego of a typical labour spendthrift of a Council leader.
look where you are going and you wont trip up. What do you want, there roads and pavements to be tarmacked !
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: Try walking down Coney Street or Davygate and indeed many other streets in the City centre without tripping over raised paving stones or setts. These things are urgent and necessary but unfortunately do not feed the ravenous ego of a typical labour spendthrift of a Council leader.[/p][/quote]look where you are going and you wont trip up. What do you want, there roads and pavements to be tarmacked ! Poppy01
  • Score: -103

5:12pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

A visitor asked me where can I have a P .?? in the centre of York. I said as far as I know the OUSE.
A visitor asked me where can I have a P .?? in the centre of York. I said as far as I know the OUSE. bill bailey
  • Score: -94

5:28pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bill bailey says...

tobefair wrote:
Where are they getting the money from?
£1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today.
They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions.
It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer.
DONT YOU KNOW tobefair..LENDAL BRIDGE. Its the answer to LABOURS
PRAYER..
[quote][p][bold]tobefair[/bold] wrote: Where are they getting the money from? £1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today. They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions. It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer.[/p][/quote]DONT YOU KNOW tobefair..LENDAL BRIDGE. Its the answer to LABOURS PRAYER.. bill bailey
  • Score: -98

5:43pm Fri 24 Jan 14

chrisatyork says...

allijew wrote:
We must not have unsightly bus stops outside the lovely new hotel in Exhibition Square !
Dont worry they are the only main bus stops in york that hasnt had the new eletronic signes installed, makes you think
[quote][p][bold]allijew[/bold] wrote: We must not have unsightly bus stops outside the lovely new hotel in Exhibition Square ![/p][/quote]Dont worry they are the only main bus stops in york that hasnt had the new eletronic signes installed, makes you think chrisatyork
  • Score: -86

6:19pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Diogenes2 says...

A PALIMSEST is a clue to any city's past.
York's history has been written in stone, literally, in our history on the roads, bridges, squares etc.
Merrett and his gang of vandals, the so-called advisers, are killing our city and quickly. York will be soon a doughnut city:- empty in the centre and weak outers. Merrett must be stopped before he does any more damage to ouyr city.
His "advisers" should be fired on the spot.
York is OUR city, our ancesters' city and must preserved. Full stop.
I have voted Labour from 1955, but I for one will not Labour in the local elections in 2015. Labour per se will not loser as Merrett, Alexander and Crisp et al are NOT Labour but a gang of thugs akin to the government of North Korea.
Long live democracy! It has been hidden in York City Council for too long.
A PALIMSEST is a clue to any city's past. York's history has been written in stone, literally, in our history on the roads, bridges, squares etc. Merrett and his gang of vandals, the so-called advisers, are killing our city and quickly. York will be soon a doughnut city:- empty in the centre and weak outers. Merrett must be stopped before he does any more damage to ouyr city. His "advisers" should be fired on the spot. York is OUR city, our ancesters' city and must preserved. Full stop. I have voted Labour from 1955, but I for one will not Labour in the local elections in 2015. Labour per se will not loser as Merrett, Alexander and Crisp et al are NOT Labour but a gang of thugs akin to the government of North Korea. Long live democracy! It has been hidden in York City Council for too long. Diogenes2
  • Score: -48

6:48pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bolero says...

Poppy01 wrote:
bolero wrote:
Try walking down Coney Street or Davygate and indeed many other streets in the City centre without tripping over raised paving stones or setts. These things are urgent and necessary but unfortunately do not feed the ravenous ego of a typical labour spendthrift of a Council leader.
look where you are going and you wont trip up. What do you want, there roads and pavements to be tarmacked !
Yes, if that would please you.
[quote][p][bold]Poppy01[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: Try walking down Coney Street or Davygate and indeed many other streets in the City centre without tripping over raised paving stones or setts. These things are urgent and necessary but unfortunately do not feed the ravenous ego of a typical labour spendthrift of a Council leader.[/p][/quote]look where you are going and you wont trip up. What do you want, there roads and pavements to be tarmacked ![/p][/quote]Yes, if that would please you. bolero
  • Score: -60

6:51pm Fri 24 Jan 14

wallman says...

Is this the idea Tracy Laing was talking about on radio York a few months ago, no right turn from Bootham into the square
Is this the idea Tracy Laing was talking about on radio York a few months ago, no right turn from Bootham into the square wallman
  • Score: -59

7:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bjb says...

Isn't turning Fossgate into a foot-street discriminating all the holders of fake blue badges.
Isn't turning Fossgate into a foot-street discriminating all the holders of fake blue badges. bjb
  • Score: -36

7:11pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bjb says...

Please add 'against'.
Please add 'against'. bjb
  • Score: -18

7:20pm Fri 24 Jan 14

RingoStarr says...

Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here!
Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here! RingoStarr
  • Score: 7

7:30pm Fri 24 Jan 14

spockboy2 says...

Get your hands in your pockets York residents ,you have to please the tourists with your hard earned cash .
Get your hands in your pockets York residents ,you have to please the tourists with your hard earned cash . spockboy2
  • Score: -18

7:48pm Fri 24 Jan 14

CaroleBaines says...

City centre traders do not whinge about this I notice.
City centre traders do not whinge about this I notice. CaroleBaines
  • Score: -51

7:50pm Fri 24 Jan 14

JasBro says...

RingoStarr wrote:
Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here!
The worrying thing is that this vote rigging is probably being repeated on the council's online surveys.

The Press should do some proper investigative journalism. The council have found a new toy and God only knows how they're using it.
[quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here![/p][/quote]The worrying thing is that this vote rigging is probably being repeated on the council's online surveys. The Press should do some proper investigative journalism. The council have found a new toy and God only knows how they're using it. JasBro
  • Score: -19

7:51pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bolero says...

RingoStarr wrote:
Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here!
Yes, there doesn't seem to be any doubt now, as this occurs on each occasion that criticism is levelled at our crazy house council. The editors of the press must be aware as regards the perpetraitors and wil be in a position to correct if they so wished or were allowed to do so.
[quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here![/p][/quote]Yes, there doesn't seem to be any doubt now, as this occurs on each occasion that criticism is levelled at our crazy house council. The editors of the press must be aware as regards the perpetraitors and wil be in a position to correct if they so wished or were allowed to do so. bolero
  • Score: -16

7:51pm Fri 24 Jan 14

bolero says...

RingoStarr wrote:
Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here!
Yes, there doesn't seem to be any doubt now, as this occurs on each occasion that criticism is levelled at our crazy house council. The editors of the press must be aware as regards the perpetraitors and wil be in a position to correct if they so wished or were allowed to do so.
[quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here![/p][/quote]Yes, there doesn't seem to be any doubt now, as this occurs on each occasion that criticism is levelled at our crazy house council. The editors of the press must be aware as regards the perpetraitors and wil be in a position to correct if they so wished or were allowed to do so. bolero
  • Score: -12

8:00pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Yorkie41 says...

RingoStarr wrote:
Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here!
I wondered what had been happening as I have been watching these post's for some time then suddenly some one seems to be fixing the scores. How utterly childish.
[quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here![/p][/quote]I wondered what had been happening as I have been watching these post's for some time then suddenly some one seems to be fixing the scores. How utterly childish. Yorkie41
  • Score: -97

8:13pm Fri 24 Jan 14

JasBro says...

Yorkie41 wrote:
RingoStarr wrote:
Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here!
I wondered what had been happening as I have been watching these post's for some time then suddenly some one seems to be fixing the scores. How utterly childish.
The vote rigging has been well known for some time, and because it's so obvious it's fairly meaningless.

The real problem is that they're probably rigging the council's online surveys using the same methods.

Democracy? Not in York
[quote][p][bold]Yorkie41[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here![/p][/quote]I wondered what had been happening as I have been watching these post's for some time then suddenly some one seems to be fixing the scores. How utterly childish.[/p][/quote]The vote rigging has been well known for some time, and because it's so obvious it's fairly meaningless. The real problem is that they're probably rigging the council's online surveys using the same methods. Democracy? Not in York JasBro
  • Score: -151

8:19pm Fri 24 Jan 14

JasBro says...

bolero wrote:
RingoStarr wrote:
Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here!
Yes, there doesn't seem to be any doubt now, as this occurs on each occasion that criticism is levelled at our crazy house council. The editors of the press must be aware as regards the perpetraitors and wil be in a position to correct if they so wished or were allowed to do so.
No, the Press can't do much about it, and can't really correct it either. As long as they allow unregistered people to vote they're stuck.

Actually, they're probably quite happy with all the extra hits. :-)
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here![/p][/quote]Yes, there doesn't seem to be any doubt now, as this occurs on each occasion that criticism is levelled at our crazy house council. The editors of the press must be aware as regards the perpetraitors and wil be in a position to correct if they so wished or were allowed to do so.[/p][/quote]No, the Press can't do much about it, and can't really correct it either. As long as they allow unregistered people to vote they're stuck. Actually, they're probably quite happy with all the extra hits. :-) JasBro
  • Score: -159

8:31pm Fri 24 Jan 14

Yorkie41 says...

JasBro wrote:
Yorkie41 wrote:
RingoStarr wrote:
Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here!
I wondered what had been happening as I have been watching these post's for some time then suddenly some one seems to be fixing the scores. How utterly childish.
The vote rigging has been well known for some time, and because it's so obvious it's fairly meaningless.

The real problem is that they're probably rigging the council's online surveys using the same methods.

Democracy? Not in York
Absolutely deplorable.
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yorkie41[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here![/p][/quote]I wondered what had been happening as I have been watching these post's for some time then suddenly some one seems to be fixing the scores. How utterly childish.[/p][/quote]The vote rigging has been well known for some time, and because it's so obvious it's fairly meaningless. The real problem is that they're probably rigging the council's online surveys using the same methods. Democracy? Not in York[/p][/quote]Absolutely deplorable. Yorkie41
  • Score: -174

9:58pm Fri 24 Jan 14

chuckabuttie says...

Bizarre scores compared with every other story. I live in the US now and often yearn for my home City but when I see this blatant stupidity it actually makes US bureaucracy seem quite palatable.

Cue either post mysteriously disappearing or ascore of -240 by this time tomorrow. Childish prigs
Bizarre scores compared with every other story. I live in the US now and often yearn for my home City but when I see this blatant stupidity it actually makes US bureaucracy seem quite palatable. Cue either post mysteriously disappearing or ascore of -240 by this time tomorrow. Childish prigs chuckabuttie
  • Score: -147

10:07pm Fri 24 Jan 14

ouseswimmer says...

Has someone in the Council bought shares in a paving company? This is getting crazy!
Has someone in the Council bought shares in a paving company? This is getting crazy! ouseswimmer
  • Score: -82

12:17am Sat 25 Jan 14

chuckabuttie says...

chuckabuttie wrote:
Bizarre scores compared with every other story. I live in the US now and often yearn for my home City but when I see this blatant stupidity it actually makes US bureaucracy seem quite palatable.

Cue either post mysteriously disappearing or ascore of -240 by this time tomorrow. Childish prigs
Tossers
[quote][p][bold]chuckabuttie[/bold] wrote: Bizarre scores compared with every other story. I live in the US now and often yearn for my home City but when I see this blatant stupidity it actually makes US bureaucracy seem quite palatable. Cue either post mysteriously disappearing or ascore of -240 by this time tomorrow. Childish prigs[/p][/quote]Tossers chuckabuttie
  • Score: -19

12:25am Sat 25 Jan 14

Rocking Horse says...

City of York Council - a marxist, subversive regime.

Disrupting, controlling, peverting, manipulating.

Expose and remove the culprits out as soon as possible !
City of York Council - a marxist, subversive regime. Disrupting, controlling, peverting, manipulating. Expose and remove the culprits out as soon as possible ! Rocking Horse
  • Score: 0

12:56am Sat 25 Jan 14

Dave Ruddock says...

has anyone noticed Muppett Merrett has changed job.. oh and a oncultation, whet ever on same day Resident event in york. True about Kings Square, 10 ton trucks unloading. Noting said when council where in St Leanards , Lendal Bridge a trial until feb then perminant, Residents The Council Office is Open the weeekend part of Residenrs Weekend. Vote with feet in the council offices
has anyone noticed Muppett Merrett has changed job.. oh and a oncultation, whet ever on same day Resident event in york. True about Kings Square, 10 ton trucks unloading. Noting said when council where in St Leanards , Lendal Bridge a trial until feb then perminant, Residents The Council Office is Open the weeekend part of Residenrs Weekend. Vote with feet in the council offices Dave Ruddock
  • Score: -6

3:18am Sat 25 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

I am concerned about narrowing the entrance from Museum Street into St Lenoards Place... as it is, buses already have to swing out quite far to turn the corner - so widening the mouth of the road will only make this worse.... and from the looks of the CGI graphics, the traffic lights will still be there, still giving a green man to non-existant pedesrians at 3am.
The CGI graphics for Exhibition Square also show a diagonal pedestrian crossing from Bootham Tower across to Gillygate - this is worrying, because to implement this would likely get rid of the current "walk with traffic" green man signal phases in favour of an 'absolute block' system whereby every single vehicle on the junction has to stop at a red light for a while just so one pedestrian crosses the road who can't judge gaps between vehicles OR just cross using the island at the end of St Lenoards Place by Bootham Bar. Watch what happens at the Micklegate Bar junction when the school is kicking out: the green man phase lights up and all the schoolkids step onto the road, and they keep going even once the red man has shown: the sensors monitoring the crossings hold back all the traffic until the crossings are clear (the wait can be 3-5 minutes). I am also concerned about the idea of getting rid of the bus turning circle at Exhibition Square - buses that use this (services 29,30,31,31X,40) often have tight turnaround times which means going down to Leeman Road to turn around (crossing Lendal Bridge twice) would make the service late.

As for the Parliament Street and Coppergate Junction, ideally this would become a mini-roundabout. Traffic from Parliament Street wanting to go into Piccadilly would be directed along a new lane which goes over the site of the former toilet block so as to be directly opposite Piccadilly - and then the left turn from Parliament Street into High Ousegate would then be self-contained as left-turn-only, with a 'give way' for any traffic going into High Ousegate coming off the roundabout. Pedestrian crossings would be zebra crossings, provided a bus length back from the roundabout so that you don't have the situation of a bus waiting for pedestrians blocks the entire junction. The paved area in front of the church wound have to be slightly reduced to provide a wider exit from coppergate so buses can navigate the roundabout, and the narrow dangerous section of pavement on coppergate beside the church would be removed - pedestrians for coppergate directed up High Ousegate and along the footway beside Anne Summers. I would also remove the rising bollard at Stonebow and move it to Pavement (just after the Fossgate entrance, traffic for Fossgate would be able to get there via Peasholme Green and Stonebow) - this would take out the 'bypass loop' of St Savoiurgate, which some drivers use to get past the rising bollard so as then to complain about getting fined for driving along Coppergate.

Merging roads for use by both pedestrians and buses is a tricky one but can work if done properly... Newcastle has an example near the Monument metro station.
I am concerned about narrowing the entrance from Museum Street into St Lenoards Place... as it is, buses already have to swing out quite far to turn the corner - so widening the mouth of the road will only make this worse.... and from the looks of the CGI graphics, the traffic lights will still be there, still giving a green man to non-existant pedesrians at 3am. The CGI graphics for Exhibition Square also show a diagonal pedestrian crossing from Bootham Tower across to Gillygate - this is worrying, because to implement this would likely get rid of the current "walk with traffic" green man signal phases in favour of an 'absolute block' system whereby every single vehicle on the junction has to stop at a red light for a while just so one pedestrian crosses the road who can't judge gaps between vehicles OR just cross using the island at the end of St Lenoards Place by Bootham Bar. Watch what happens at the Micklegate Bar junction when the school is kicking out: the green man phase lights up and all the schoolkids step onto the road, and they keep going even once the red man has shown: the sensors monitoring the crossings hold back all the traffic until the crossings are clear (the wait can be 3-5 minutes). I am also concerned about the idea of getting rid of the bus turning circle at Exhibition Square - buses that use this (services 29,30,31,31X,40) often have tight turnaround times which means going down to Leeman Road to turn around (crossing Lendal Bridge twice) would make the service late. As for the Parliament Street and Coppergate Junction, ideally this would become a mini-roundabout. Traffic from Parliament Street wanting to go into Piccadilly would be directed along a new lane which goes over the site of the former toilet block so as to be directly opposite Piccadilly - and then the left turn from Parliament Street into High Ousegate would then be self-contained as left-turn-only, with a 'give way' for any traffic going into High Ousegate coming off the roundabout. Pedestrian crossings would be zebra crossings, provided a bus length back from the roundabout so that you don't have the situation of a bus waiting for pedestrians blocks the entire junction. The paved area in front of the church wound have to be slightly reduced to provide a wider exit from coppergate so buses can navigate the roundabout, and the narrow dangerous section of pavement on coppergate beside the church would be removed - pedestrians for coppergate directed up High Ousegate and along the footway beside Anne Summers. I would also remove the rising bollard at Stonebow and move it to Pavement (just after the Fossgate entrance, traffic for Fossgate would be able to get there via Peasholme Green and Stonebow) - this would take out the 'bypass loop' of St Savoiurgate, which some drivers use to get past the rising bollard so as then to complain about getting fined for driving along Coppergate. Merging roads for use by both pedestrians and buses is a tricky one but can work if done properly... Newcastle has an example near the Monument metro station. Magicman!
  • Score: -9

7:04am Sat 25 Jan 14

Abdiel says...

Never having commented before I find the scores confusing, surely if you agree then the tick should be on the positive (thumbs up). Disagree and should be thumbs down. Seems to me a lot of people are voting *se* about face.
Never having commented before I find the scores confusing, surely if you agree then the tick should be on the positive (thumbs up). Disagree and should be thumbs down. Seems to me a lot of people are voting *se* about face. Abdiel
  • Score: 7

11:18am Sat 25 Jan 14

Diogenes2 says...

Diogenes2 wrote:
A PALIMSEST is a clue to any city's past.
York's history has been written in stone, literally, in our history on the roads, bridges, squares etc.
Merrett and his gang of vandals, the so-called advisers, are killing our city and quickly. York will be soon a doughnut city:- empty in the centre and weak outers. Merrett must be stopped before he does any more damage to ouyr city.
His "advisers" should be fired on the spot.
York is OUR city, our ancesters' city and must preserved. Full stop.
I have voted Labour from 1955, but I for one will not Labour in the local elections in 2015. Labour per se will not loser as Merrett, Alexander and Crisp et al are NOT Labour but a gang of thugs akin to the government of North Korea.
Long live democracy! It has been hidden in York City Council for too long.
I see that the Y.C. propaganda squad is at work again! Switching the "LIKES" to "DISLIKES".
Get a proper job!
[quote][p][bold]Diogenes2[/bold] wrote: A PALIMSEST is a clue to any city's past. York's history has been written in stone, literally, in our history on the roads, bridges, squares etc. Merrett and his gang of vandals, the so-called advisers, are killing our city and quickly. York will be soon a doughnut city:- empty in the centre and weak outers. Merrett must be stopped before he does any more damage to ouyr city. His "advisers" should be fired on the spot. York is OUR city, our ancesters' city and must preserved. Full stop. I have voted Labour from 1955, but I for one will not Labour in the local elections in 2015. Labour per se will not loser as Merrett, Alexander and Crisp et al are NOT Labour but a gang of thugs akin to the government of North Korea. Long live democracy! It has been hidden in York City Council for too long.[/p][/quote]I see that the Y.C. propaganda squad is at work again! Switching the "LIKES" to "DISLIKES". Get a proper job! Diogenes2
  • Score: -1083

12:54pm Sat 25 Jan 14

Kelvar says...

I have to say I have NEVER seen a column of comments with so many 'NEGATIVE' Scores! Some Council Lackies REALLY HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!
I have to say I have NEVER seen a column of comments with so many 'NEGATIVE' Scores! Some Council Lackies REALLY HAVE BEEN BUSY!!! Kelvar
  • Score: -91

1:11pm Sat 25 Jan 14

yawn.. says...

What... not one comment with a thumbs up.. Jeez, the bell end brigade must've been hard at work logging on to their story big.. lmao..
What... not one comment with a thumbs up.. Jeez, the bell end brigade must've been hard at work logging on to their story big.. lmao.. yawn..
  • Score: -80

3:01pm Sat 25 Jan 14

bolero says...

Abdiel wrote:
Never having commented before I find the scores confusing, surely if you agree then the tick should be on the positive (thumbs up). Disagree and should be thumbs down. Seems to me a lot of people are voting *se* about face.
It depends on who you work for and what the subject is. It is normally something in criticism of our esteemed council so all the lackies are programmed to vote thumbs down.
[quote][p][bold]Abdiel[/bold] wrote: Never having commented before I find the scores confusing, surely if you agree then the tick should be on the positive (thumbs up). Disagree and should be thumbs down. Seems to me a lot of people are voting *se* about face.[/p][/quote]It depends on who you work for and what the subject is. It is normally something in criticism of our esteemed council so all the lackies are programmed to vote thumbs down. bolero
  • Score: -80

5:58pm Sat 25 Jan 14

cas540 says...

This voting against all comments that appear to be critical of the Muppets is so childlike and something that anyone with any sense of intelligence would never attempt as all it shows the public is that we must be being lead by a group of stupid idiots who revert to childlike behaviour when they hear the truth. Lets just let them carry on and we will enjoy the daily laugh at them.
Just think of all the real work that could have been done instead of having to pay them for twiddling their thumbs. Such sad people.
This voting against all comments that appear to be critical of the Muppets is so childlike and something that anyone with any sense of intelligence would never attempt as all it shows the public is that we must be being lead by a group of stupid idiots who revert to childlike behaviour when they hear the truth. Lets just let them carry on and we will enjoy the daily laugh at them. Just think of all the real work that could have been done instead of having to pay them for twiddling their thumbs. Such sad people. cas540
  • Score: -42

7:27pm Sat 25 Jan 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

In most if not all democracies disagreement is seen as something normal, but in York if you disagree they have people prepared to invest time and effort to make it look like the outcome they desire.

You can change or ignore the facts if it makes you feel better, but you will never change the truth and denying the truth is a poor leadership trait, especially when you only carry 30% of the vote.
In most if not all democracies disagreement is seen as something normal, but in York if you disagree they have people prepared to invest time and effort to make it look like the outcome they desire. You can change or ignore the facts if it makes you feel better, but you will never change the truth and denying the truth is a poor leadership trait, especially when you only carry 30% of the vote. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -58

7:39pm Sat 25 Jan 14

JasBro says...

cas540 wrote:
This voting against all comments that appear to be critical of the Muppets is so childlike and something that anyone with any sense of intelligence would never attempt as all it shows the public is that we must be being lead by a group of stupid idiots who revert to childlike behaviour when they hear the truth. Lets just let them carry on and we will enjoy the daily laugh at them.
Just think of all the real work that could have been done instead of having to pay them for twiddling their thumbs. Such sad people.
You're right, and of course on here it doesn't matter, it's laughable.

But the same people will be using the same methods to fix the council's own online consultations. So when you hear them say that 200% of York residents support the closure of Lendal Bridge (for instance), you'll know why.

Just think about all that public money spent on those "consultations". Your money and my money totally wasted, because they are being manipulated, just like the votes on here. Whether that is a deliberate loophole, or simply incompetence I don't know.

Try it yourself if you want. Just delete the appropriate cookies or go private or incognito etc, you can vote as many times as you want. The whole thing is worthless.

You thought it was one person, one vote? Well not any more.
[quote][p][bold]cas540[/bold] wrote: This voting against all comments that appear to be critical of the Muppets is so childlike and something that anyone with any sense of intelligence would never attempt as all it shows the public is that we must be being lead by a group of stupid idiots who revert to childlike behaviour when they hear the truth. Lets just let them carry on and we will enjoy the daily laugh at them. Just think of all the real work that could have been done instead of having to pay them for twiddling their thumbs. Such sad people.[/p][/quote]You're right, and of course on here it doesn't matter, it's laughable. But the same people will be using the same methods to fix the council's own online consultations. So when you hear them say that 200% of York residents support the closure of Lendal Bridge (for instance), you'll know why. Just think about all that public money spent on those "consultations". Your money and my money totally wasted, because they are being manipulated, just like the votes on here. Whether that is a deliberate loophole, or simply incompetence I don't know. Try it yourself if you want. Just delete the appropriate cookies or go private or incognito etc, you can vote as many times as you want. The whole thing is worthless. You thought it was one person, one vote? Well not any more. JasBro
  • Score: -44

7:50pm Sat 25 Jan 14

RoseD says...

bjb wrote:
Isn't turning Fossgate into a foot-street discriminating all the holders of fake blue badges.
No, it effs up the holders of legit blue badges but Merrett and the Muppets don't give a toss for boring crips. Or older folks who may actually need to use a car and cant afford taxis.
[quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: Isn't turning Fossgate into a foot-street discriminating all the holders of fake blue badges.[/p][/quote]No, it effs up the holders of legit blue badges but Merrett and the Muppets don't give a toss for boring crips. Or older folks who may actually need to use a car and cant afford taxis. RoseD
  • Score: -63

7:52pm Sat 25 Jan 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

James Alexanders own words when describing the wasted £ millions by the Lib Dems.

http://www.yorkpress
.co.uk/features/read
ersletters/4681278.M
illions__wasted__by_
City_of_York_Council
/

Today we can say that all are equally guilty, it's only the scale of waste that separates them.
James Alexanders own words when describing the wasted £ millions by the Lib Dems. http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/features/read ersletters/4681278.M illions__wasted__by_ City_of_York_Council / Today we can say that all are equally guilty, it's only the scale of waste that separates them. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -107

10:49pm Sat 25 Jan 14

strangebuttrue? says...

Have you had the leaflet yet:-
"Following the example set by the likes of Bruges and Barcelona" their vision beings!!!
BARCELONA!! goodness. Have they been there. I stayed there not long ago right in the city centre a short walk from the pedestrianized area. That walk involved passing through the main square with all of it's pollution belching buses and crossing the roads was a nightmare as you could not see past the buses. All around this area are inner city roads big enough to rival our motorways so those who choose to travel by car have plenty of other choices and are not hindered at every opportunity as they are in York. Even on the pedestrianised street you had to have eyes in the back of your head to avoid roller skaters, cyclists and moped riders with that and the ever present threat of pick pockets I felt like a Meerkat on guard every time I walked down there.
Having said all that loved the city and had a great time even kept hold of my wallet, unlike some of our other hotel guests, but for our council to say following there example. When can we expect the dual carriageways to be built through the middle of York then?

Also a little warm up for the declaration of the success of the Lendal Bridge closure is include say in that even though the trial will finish the restrictions will not.
Have you had the leaflet yet:- "Following the example set by the likes of Bruges and Barcelona" their vision beings!!! BARCELONA!! goodness. Have they been there. I stayed there not long ago right in the city centre a short walk from the pedestrianized area. That walk involved passing through the main square with all of it's pollution belching buses and crossing the roads was a nightmare as you could not see past the buses. All around this area are inner city roads big enough to rival our motorways so those who choose to travel by car have plenty of other choices and are not hindered at every opportunity as they are in York. Even on the pedestrianised street you had to have eyes in the back of your head to avoid roller skaters, cyclists and moped riders with that and the ever present threat of pick pockets I felt like a Meerkat on guard every time I walked down there. Having said all that loved the city and had a great time even kept hold of my wallet, unlike some of our other hotel guests, but for our council to say following there example. When can we expect the dual carriageways to be built through the middle of York then? Also a little warm up for the declaration of the success of the Lendal Bridge closure is include say in that even though the trial will finish the restrictions will not. strangebuttrue?
  • Score: -48

3:38am Sun 26 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

bolero wrote:
Abdiel wrote:
Never having commented before I find the scores confusing, surely if you agree then the tick should be on the positive (thumbs up). Disagree and should be thumbs down. Seems to me a lot of people are voting *se* about face.
It depends on who you work for and what the subject is. It is normally something in criticism of our esteemed council so all the lackies are programmed to vote thumbs down.
Indeed...even if you make positive suggestions on improving something - any element of dislike to the slightest thing and your comment is hacked with the thumbs down.

As the current average thumbs down score is around about -200, I say take that off your score and you'll see what the ACTUAL score of your comment is... example, if your scors is -157, take off the -200 and your comment has an actual rating of +43
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Abdiel[/bold] wrote: Never having commented before I find the scores confusing, surely if you agree then the tick should be on the positive (thumbs up). Disagree and should be thumbs down. Seems to me a lot of people are voting *se* about face.[/p][/quote]It depends on who you work for and what the subject is. It is normally something in criticism of our esteemed council so all the lackies are programmed to vote thumbs down.[/p][/quote]Indeed...even if you make positive suggestions on improving something - any element of dislike to the slightest thing and your comment is hacked with the thumbs down. As the current average thumbs down score is around about -200, I say take that off your score and you'll see what the ACTUAL score of your comment is... example, if your scors is -157, take off the -200 and your comment has an actual rating of +43 Magicman!
  • Score: -77

9:57am Sun 26 Jan 14

Pinza-C55 says...

AntMcM wrote:
All part of the grand plan! The Lendal Bridge closure is a foregone conclusion so of course Exhibition Square is next, we can't have buses cluttering up the front of the new hotel. And why hasn't work started on the hotel yet? Anytime this Council feels like consulting residents we'll be waiting with baited breath. Then a new Council will be voted in and undo everything Labour has done at vast expense! How about a new Residents First experience - "Councillors meet the People and answer their questions truthfully". Sorry, just daydreaming there.
"And why hasn't work started on the hotel yet?"

I pondered that question myself. Although the buildings have been empty for 10 months now they were actually sold in 2007 so it can't be that the owners have had insufficient time to draw up plans.
My hunch would be that they are trying to get a better offer from another company to sell it at a fat profit?
[quote][p][bold]AntMcM[/bold] wrote: All part of the grand plan! The Lendal Bridge closure is a foregone conclusion so of course Exhibition Square is next, we can't have buses cluttering up the front of the new hotel. And why hasn't work started on the hotel yet? Anytime this Council feels like consulting residents we'll be waiting with baited breath. Then a new Council will be voted in and undo everything Labour has done at vast expense! How about a new Residents First experience - "Councillors meet the People and answer their questions truthfully". Sorry, just daydreaming there.[/p][/quote]"And why hasn't work started on the hotel yet?" I pondered that question myself. Although the buildings have been empty for 10 months now they were actually sold in 2007 so it can't be that the owners have had insufficient time to draw up plans. My hunch would be that they are trying to get a better offer from another company to sell it at a fat profit? Pinza-C55
  • Score: -92

10:53am Sun 26 Jan 14

bolero says...

Come the 2015 elections will an outside consultancy be brought in to count the votes? I hope so because the present wayward council have demonstrated how untrustworthy they can be when it comes to recording votes. It is significant that no denial has been made in regard to this latest façade, so obviously we are right in our assumptions.
Come the 2015 elections will an outside consultancy be brought in to count the votes? I hope so because the present wayward council have demonstrated how untrustworthy they can be when it comes to recording votes. It is significant that no denial has been made in regard to this latest façade, so obviously we are right in our assumptions. bolero
  • Score: -35

12:25pm Sun 26 Jan 14

dottyfred says...

The proposals for Fossgate can only be seen as good for the future of the street ! It has become a destination for some of the best eateries in York but also has a large number of empty shops & any improvement s would surely help to fill those buildings to further enhance it as a destination unlike any other streets in the city centre I.e. Devoid of national multiples !
The proposals for Fossgate can only be seen as good for the future of the street ! It has become a destination for some of the best eateries in York but also has a large number of empty shops & any improvement s would surely help to fill those buildings to further enhance it as a destination unlike any other streets in the city centre I.e. Devoid of national multiples ! dottyfred
  • Score: 3

12:33pm Sun 26 Jan 14

dottyfred says...

The proposals for Fossgate would be excellent for the street which is looking very tired with a lot of empty shops. People in the know use Fossgate & Walmgate for eating & drinking as some of the best eateries are there instead of the National Multiples & to improve the street by making it a footstreet would definitely help to fill the empty buildings & help to create an atmospheric thoroughfare.
The proposals for Fossgate would be excellent for the street which is looking very tired with a lot of empty shops. People in the know use Fossgate & Walmgate for eating & drinking as some of the best eateries are there instead of the National Multiples & to improve the street by making it a footstreet would definitely help to fill the empty buildings & help to create an atmospheric thoroughfare. dottyfred
  • Score: 2

4:44pm Sun 26 Jan 14

bolero says...

So no comments requested on the proposed request for funding for the ring road. I wonder why? Curiouser and curiouser.
So no comments requested on the proposed request for funding for the ring road. I wonder why? Curiouser and curiouser. bolero
  • Score: 4

5:55pm Sun 26 Jan 14

bjb says...

Have all those commenters above who are laying the blame for the 'dislikes' on the council, ever considered that several years ago the comment section of the press was almost brought down by school kids having a laugh at the expense of serious debate. It is not impossible that some kids sat in an IT class somewhere are sat back laughing again at all those they have successfully wound up. Think about it folks.
Have all those commenters above who are laying the blame for the 'dislikes' on the council, ever considered that several years ago the comment section of the press was almost brought down by school kids having a laugh at the expense of serious debate. It is not impossible that some kids sat in an IT class somewhere are sat back laughing again at all those they have successfully wound up. Think about it folks. bjb
  • Score: 41

6:17pm Sun 26 Jan 14

JasBro says...

bjb wrote:
Have all those commenters above who are laying the blame for the 'dislikes' on the council, ever considered that several years ago the comment section of the press was almost brought down by school kids having a laugh at the expense of serious debate. It is not impossible that some kids sat in an IT class somewhere are sat back laughing again at all those they have successfully wound up. Think about it folks.
I'm not really bothered who is doing it.

I'm more bothered that the council have left a massive loophole in their consultation processes, which leaves them open to the same manipulation that we've seen here.

The only question is whether the council have been deliberately dishonest in allowing it, or just woefully incompetent.
[quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: Have all those commenters above who are laying the blame for the 'dislikes' on the council, ever considered that several years ago the comment section of the press was almost brought down by school kids having a laugh at the expense of serious debate. It is not impossible that some kids sat in an IT class somewhere are sat back laughing again at all those they have successfully wound up. Think about it folks.[/p][/quote]I'm not really bothered who is doing it. I'm more bothered that the council have left a massive loophole in their consultation processes, which leaves them open to the same manipulation that we've seen here. The only question is whether the council have been deliberately dishonest in allowing it, or just woefully incompetent. JasBro
  • Score: -115

11:34pm Sun 26 Jan 14

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

bjb wrote:
Have all those commenters above who are laying the blame for the 'dislikes' on the council, ever considered that several years ago the comment section of the press was almost brought down by school kids having a laugh at the expense of serious debate. It is not impossible that some kids sat in an IT class somewhere are sat back laughing again at all those they have successfully wound up. Think about it folks.
That maybe true but they are not usually up night after night until 2am, I have watched it happen and later.

Night shift Joe is frequently busy.
[quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: Have all those commenters above who are laying the blame for the 'dislikes' on the council, ever considered that several years ago the comment section of the press was almost brought down by school kids having a laugh at the expense of serious debate. It is not impossible that some kids sat in an IT class somewhere are sat back laughing again at all those they have successfully wound up. Think about it folks.[/p][/quote]That maybe true but they are not usually up night after night until 2am, I have watched it happen and later. Night shift Joe is frequently busy. YOUWILLDOASISAY
  • Score: -76

6:30am Mon 27 Jan 14

bjb says...

YOUWILLDOASISAY wrote:
bjb wrote:
Have all those commenters above who are laying the blame for the 'dislikes' on the council, ever considered that several years ago the comment section of the press was almost brought down by school kids having a laugh at the expense of serious debate. It is not impossible that some kids sat in an IT class somewhere are sat back laughing again at all those they have successfully wound up. Think about it folks.
That maybe true but they are not usually up night after night until 2am, I have watched it happen and later.

Night shift Joe is frequently busy.
They were then, why not now.
[quote][p][bold]YOUWILLDOASISAY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: Have all those commenters above who are laying the blame for the 'dislikes' on the council, ever considered that several years ago the comment section of the press was almost brought down by school kids having a laugh at the expense of serious debate. It is not impossible that some kids sat in an IT class somewhere are sat back laughing again at all those they have successfully wound up. Think about it folks.[/p][/quote]That maybe true but they are not usually up night after night until 2am, I have watched it happen and later. Night shift Joe is frequently busy.[/p][/quote]They were then, why not now. bjb
  • Score: -113

6:32am Mon 27 Jan 14

bjb says...

You are all being set up and taken for a ride and the little brats are loving it.
You are all being set up and taken for a ride and the little brats are loving it. bjb
  • Score: -92

7:01am Mon 27 Jan 14

oi oi savaloy says...

Kelvar wrote:
I have to say I have NEVER seen a column of comments with so many 'NEGATIVE' Scores! Some Council Lackies REALLY HAVE BEEN BUSY!!!
well the press is included in the 80,000 hits a day at the west offices!
plus i probably think its some kind of mass email campaign from the york labour group..!
[quote][p][bold]Kelvar[/bold] wrote: I have to say I have NEVER seen a column of comments with so many 'NEGATIVE' Scores! Some Council Lackies REALLY HAVE BEEN BUSY!!![/p][/quote]well the press is included in the 80,000 hits a day at the west offices! plus i probably think its some kind of mass email campaign from the york labour group..! oi oi savaloy
  • Score: -53

9:32am Mon 27 Jan 14

bjb says...

When the geeks played havoc with the press comments several years ago there was not a 'likes/dislikes' facility available so they used multiple log in user names many of the daft or obscure. They used to pick up on anything council related because they knew there are some on here that habitually had a pop at the council whatever the issue. Some of them I dare say were councilors of whatever persuasion trying to get back at each other and trying to score political points with the press trolls who are anti-council.

Don't be fooled. The geeks are having a big laugh at your expense and you are falling for it.
When the geeks played havoc with the press comments several years ago there was not a 'likes/dislikes' facility available so they used multiple log in user names many of the daft or obscure. They used to pick up on anything council related because they knew there are some on here that habitually had a pop at the council whatever the issue. Some of them I dare say were councilors of whatever persuasion trying to get back at each other and trying to score political points with the press trolls who are anti-council. Don't be fooled. The geeks are having a big laugh at your expense and you are falling for it. bjb
  • Score: -1

10:06am Mon 27 Jan 14

bolero says...

bjb wrote:
When the geeks played havoc with the press comments several years ago there was not a 'likes/dislikes' facility available so they used multiple log in user names many of the daft or obscure. They used to pick up on anything council related because they knew there are some on here that habitually had a pop at the council whatever the issue. Some of them I dare say were councilors of whatever persuasion trying to get back at each other and trying to score political points with the press trolls who are anti-council.

Don't be fooled. The geeks are having a big laugh at your expense and you are falling for it.
And who's to say you are not one of them?
[quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: When the geeks played havoc with the press comments several years ago there was not a 'likes/dislikes' facility available so they used multiple log in user names many of the daft or obscure. They used to pick up on anything council related because they knew there are some on here that habitually had a pop at the council whatever the issue. Some of them I dare say were councilors of whatever persuasion trying to get back at each other and trying to score political points with the press trolls who are anti-council. Don't be fooled. The geeks are having a big laugh at your expense and you are falling for it.[/p][/quote]And who's to say you are not one of them? bolero
  • Score: 5

11:28am Mon 27 Jan 14

bjb says...

bolero wrote:
bjb wrote:
When the geeks played havoc with the press comments several years ago there was not a 'likes/dislikes' facility available so they used multiple log in user names many of the daft or obscure. They used to pick up on anything council related because they knew there are some on here that habitually had a pop at the council whatever the issue. Some of them I dare say were councilors of whatever persuasion trying to get back at each other and trying to score political points with the press trolls who are anti-council.

Don't be fooled. The geeks are having a big laugh at your expense and you are falling for it.
And who's to say you are not one of them?
Because you can check back through the press archives for my previous posts and see how and on what issues I post. You can either believe me or not, but I dare say that there are long standing sensible commenters out there who can corroborate what I say.
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: When the geeks played havoc with the press comments several years ago there was not a 'likes/dislikes' facility available so they used multiple log in user names many of the daft or obscure. They used to pick up on anything council related because they knew there are some on here that habitually had a pop at the council whatever the issue. Some of them I dare say were councilors of whatever persuasion trying to get back at each other and trying to score political points with the press trolls who are anti-council. Don't be fooled. The geeks are having a big laugh at your expense and you are falling for it.[/p][/quote]And who's to say you are not one of them?[/p][/quote]Because you can check back through the press archives for my previous posts and see how and on what issues I post. You can either believe me or not, but I dare say that there are long standing sensible commenters out there who can corroborate what I say. bjb
  • Score: 0

3:35pm Mon 27 Jan 14

bolero says...

Yeah, Yeah. I've no doubt.
Yeah, Yeah. I've no doubt. bolero
  • Score: 1

10:06pm Mon 27 Jan 14

cas540 says...

bjb wrote:
When the geeks played havoc with the press comments several years ago there was not a 'likes/dislikes' facility available so they used multiple log in user names many of the daft or obscure. They used to pick up on anything council related because they knew there are some on here that habitually had a pop at the council whatever the issue. Some of them I dare say were councilors of whatever persuasion trying to get back at each other and trying to score political points with the press trolls who are anti-council.

Don't be fooled. The geeks are having a big laugh at your expense and you are falling for it.
The present Muppets
have the mentality of schoolkids so I believe it is them manipulating the scores, besides I do not believe that schoolkids are the slightest bit interested in the topics on here. The kids I see nowadays are too busy with their phones and tablets playing games against friends.
[quote][p][bold]bjb[/bold] wrote: When the geeks played havoc with the press comments several years ago there was not a 'likes/dislikes' facility available so they used multiple log in user names many of the daft or obscure. They used to pick up on anything council related because they knew there are some on here that habitually had a pop at the council whatever the issue. Some of them I dare say were councilors of whatever persuasion trying to get back at each other and trying to score political points with the press trolls who are anti-council. Don't be fooled. The geeks are having a big laugh at your expense and you are falling for it.[/p][/quote]The present Muppets have the mentality of schoolkids so I believe it is them manipulating the scores, besides I do not believe that schoolkids are the slightest bit interested in the topics on here. The kids I see nowadays are too busy with their phones and tablets playing games against friends. cas540
  • Score: 5

7:49pm Wed 29 Jan 14

mind game says...

yorkandproud wrote:
tobefair wrote:
Where are they getting the money from?
£1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today.
They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions.
It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer.
"Where are they getting the money from". Rearrange this well known phrase or saying. " Bridge Ripoff Lendal ". Say no more, nudge nudge, wink wink.
how come votes are the same after a vote for
[quote][p][bold]yorkandproud[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]tobefair[/bold] wrote: Where are they getting the money from? £1.5million yesterday for the market. £2.2million today. They tell us there is no money for basic services but keep on spending millions. It doesn't make sense to me but I am only a council tax payer.[/p][/quote]"Where are they getting the money from". Rearrange this well known phrase or saying. " Bridge Ripoff Lendal ". Say no more, nudge nudge, wink wink.[/p][/quote]how come votes are the same after a vote for mind game
  • Score: 1

7:54pm Wed 29 Jan 14

mind game says...

JasBro wrote:
RingoStarr wrote:
Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here!
The worrying thing is that this vote rigging is probably being repeated on the council's online surveys.

The Press should do some proper investigative journalism. The council have found a new toy and God only knows how they're using it.
why bother having your say , when voting I see its not counted free city mmmmmmm don't think so
[quote][p][bold]JasBro[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RingoStarr[/bold] wrote: Hello, Alexander's Rag Time Band seem to have taken hold (again) of the 'score buttons' here![/p][/quote]The worrying thing is that this vote rigging is probably being repeated on the council's online surveys. The Press should do some proper investigative journalism. The council have found a new toy and God only knows how they're using it.[/p][/quote]why bother having your say , when voting I see its not counted free city mmmmmmm don't think so mind game
  • Score: 2

3:26pm Thu 30 Jan 14

meme says...

can someone tell me what the thumbs up/thumbs down and numbers are on comments pl
can someone tell me what the thumbs up/thumbs down and numbers are on comments pl meme
  • Score: 0

12:07pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Kandro says...

Has anybody here actually attended the consultation stalls? There is a stall tonight at Friargate friends meeting house 6pm to 8pm and Wednesday 10am-40 at the west offices.
I am going to one of these stalls...besides the point of wasting money are their any more points you would like me to put across?
Has anybody here actually attended the consultation stalls? There is a stall tonight at Friargate friends meeting house 6pm to 8pm and Wednesday 10am-40 at the west offices. I am going to one of these stalls...besides the point of wasting money are their any more points you would like me to put across? Kandro
  • Score: 1

12:07pm Mon 3 Feb 14

Kandro says...

10am-4pm that meant to say
10am-4pm that meant to say Kandro
  • Score: 1

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