Hallfield Road student flats plan likely to be given go-ahead

York Press: The  proposed student flats in Hallfield Road The proposed student flats in Hallfield Road

DEVELOPERS could get the go-ahead this week to build a 326-bedroom block of student flats in the centre of York.

City of York Council’s planning committee will decide on Thursday whether to approve proposals by Maple Grove Developments for the scheme in Hallfield Road, which was once a Yorkshire Water depot, and which stands next to Morrisons supermarket.

Planning officials have said the development, a joint venture with Leeds property firm Yorvale on a site which is part-owned by the council, should be allowed.

It would see two four-storey blocks around a courtyard. The aim would be to start the work in the spring and complete the flats in time for the start of the 2015/2016 university year.

The Heworth planning panel has opposed the plans, saying “employment land” in the Layerthorpe area had already been lost for housing and the student flats would be “featureless” and an eyesore.

Other residents have claimed the buildings would be too tall and student accommodation would not fit in with the area, with the site being more suitable for family housing. There were also some fears about possible anti social behaviour and loss of privacy for people living nearby.

Maple Grove has said the flats could be used by University of York and York St John University students as both were close to the site.

A report by planning officer Victoria Bell said: “The proposed development will regenerate the area and add to the vitality and viability of this part of the city-centre.

“There are about 20,000 students attending full-time courses in York. While a certain percentage of students will, at some point, want to be in private accommodation, there is clearly a demand in the market for the type of accommodation proposed.”

The report also said that if this demand changed in the future, the buildings could easily be converted or adapted to provide non-student flats.

The design would improve the appearance of Hallfield Road and would not be too dominant. The scheme would also have a cycle block and ten car-parking spaces.

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9:33am Mon 20 Jan 14

roskoboskovic says...

of course it ll get the go ahead because it s for students.heaven forbid if you want planning permission for an extension on your house.
of course it ll get the go ahead because it s for students.heaven forbid if you want planning permission for an extension on your house. roskoboskovic

10:20am Mon 20 Jan 14

Grey Lady says...

Only 10 car parking spaces!? If it goes ahead let's hope 326 sets of parents don't all turn up at once to move their children in.
Only 10 car parking spaces!? If it goes ahead let's hope 326 sets of parents don't all turn up at once to move their children in. Grey Lady

11:23am Mon 20 Jan 14

Dave Ruddock says...

Hope there will be security. obe two control 300 odd unsupervised students, possible with internal FireBrigade. 2 The Local Area in free of bins, so they cant empty them on a Sat Night. 3. Bet the local housing price will plummet., oh ND HOW ARE THERE PEOPLE TO GET TO WHICH EVER UNIVERCITY/
Hope there will be security. obe two control 300 odd unsupervised students, possible with internal FireBrigade. 2 The Local Area in free of bins, so they cant empty them on a Sat Night. 3. Bet the local housing price will plummet., oh ND HOW ARE THERE PEOPLE TO GET TO WHICH EVER UNIVERCITY/ Dave Ruddock

11:27am Mon 20 Jan 14

Yorkie41 says...

I would have thought that priority housing in York is needed for it's own residence, before that of student accommodation, a specially in such a central part of the City.
I would have thought that priority housing in York is needed for it's own residence, before that of student accommodation, a specially in such a central part of the City. Yorkie41

11:33am Mon 20 Jan 14

Archiebold the 1st says...

lendal bridge, bikes, graffiti.
lendal bridge, bikes, graffiti. Archiebold the 1st

11:45am Mon 20 Jan 14

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
Hope there will be security. obe two control 300 odd unsupervised students, possible with internal FireBrigade. 2 The Local Area in free of bins, so they cant empty them on a Sat Night. 3. Bet the local housing price will plummet., oh ND HOW ARE THERE PEOPLE TO GET TO WHICH EVER UNIVERCITY/
Can you try to type that comment again but in English this time please?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: Hope there will be security. obe two control 300 odd unsupervised students, possible with internal FireBrigade. 2 The Local Area in free of bins, so they cant empty them on a Sat Night. 3. Bet the local housing price will plummet., oh ND HOW ARE THERE PEOPLE TO GET TO WHICH EVER UNIVERCITY/[/p][/quote]Can you try to type that comment again but in English this time please? NoNewsIsGoodNews

12:14pm Mon 20 Jan 14

SethArmstrong says...

What about affordable housing for young people who, you know, actually live here permanently?
What about affordable housing for young people who, you know, actually live here permanently? SethArmstrong

12:47pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Stafford_Staff says...

This is good for everybody in York. 326 Students housed in this complex is 81 houses (say 4 students to a one HMO) with students not living in. Which hopefully will bring Family homes back in to use for Families.
This is good for everybody in York. 326 Students housed in this complex is 81 houses (say 4 students to a one HMO) with students not living in. Which hopefully will bring Family homes back in to use for Families. Stafford_Staff

12:51pm Mon 20 Jan 14

anazah says...

Do anybody in the council actually notice that in almost the same place at Hallfield Road is already student house for around 30 students? So if the project will go ahead in the area will be not 326 students but 356 students!!!

Very good idea to build accommodation for students in York City Centre far away from universities and houses for actual York residents on outskirts of city (for example Strensall Common or next to Selby) - this will really help with traffic at the rush hours.
Do anybody in the council actually notice that in almost the same place at Hallfield Road is already student house for around 30 students? So if the project will go ahead in the area will be not 326 students but 356 students!!! Very good idea to build accommodation for students in York City Centre far away from universities and houses for actual York residents on outskirts of city (for example Strensall Common or next to Selby) - this will really help with traffic at the rush hours. anazah

1:10pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Pedro says...

The University East campus should have made plans to accommodate all students on campus (or at least that should have been the main aim) rather than push up the price of property within the city. If you create a problem you should be the one solving it, not the rest of society.

By the way York Press journalists. Courts in this country have never used a gravel. Not ever. So your picture is always wrong.
The University East campus should have made plans to accommodate all students on campus (or at least that should have been the main aim) rather than push up the price of property within the city. If you create a problem you should be the one solving it, not the rest of society. By the way York Press journalists. Courts in this country have never used a gravel. Not ever. So your picture is always wrong. Pedro

1:11pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Mulgrave says...

Instead of talking about how easy it will be to convert them to something else in the future how about starting out with something a bit more balanced from the start, for students and other young adults. It seems to me that putting the word student in front of flats is just a way of saying forget all the normal criteria for design and amenity - build as cheaply as possible bang in a huge flat screen and some nice cushions and charge more per bedroom than many traditional houses. If CoYC part own the site it is their chance to influence a more creative and integrated housing solution.
Instead of talking about how easy it will be to convert them to something else in the future how about starting out with something a bit more balanced from the start, for students and other young adults. It seems to me that putting the word student in front of flats is just a way of saying forget all the normal criteria for design and amenity - build as cheaply as possible bang in a huge flat screen and some nice cushions and charge more per bedroom than many traditional houses. If CoYC part own the site it is their chance to influence a more creative and integrated housing solution. Mulgrave

1:13pm Mon 20 Jan 14

anazah says...

Stafford_Staff wrote:
This is good for everybody in York. 326 Students housed in this complex is 81 houses (say 4 students to a one HMO) with students not living in. Which hopefully will bring Family homes back in to use for Families.
I actually do not believe that this will free family homes (maybe only in very short term) as more students accommodation will only help both universities with their expansion.
This is what I dig out from recent articles from York Press:
326 flats at Hallfield Road
221 or 224 flats at Lawrence Street
258 flats in Hungate
plans for new accommodation at Carmelite Streets
and more.
York is small city and two growing universities will eventually push York residents out of city centre...
[quote][p][bold]Stafford_Staff[/bold] wrote: This is good for everybody in York. 326 Students housed in this complex is 81 houses (say 4 students to a one HMO) with students not living in. Which hopefully will bring Family homes back in to use for Families.[/p][/quote]I actually do not believe that this will free family homes (maybe only in very short term) as more students accommodation will only help both universities with their expansion. This is what I dig out from recent articles from York Press: 326 flats at Hallfield Road 221 or 224 flats at Lawrence Street 258 flats in Hungate plans for new accommodation at Carmelite Streets and more. York is small city and two growing universities will eventually push York residents out of city centre... anazah

1:33pm Mon 20 Jan 14

anazah says...

anazah wrote:
Do anybody in the council actually notice that in almost the same place at Hallfield Road is already student house for around 30 students? So if the project will go ahead in the area will be not 326 students but 356 students!!!

Very good idea to build accommodation for students in York City Centre far away from universities and houses for actual York residents on outskirts of city (for example Strensall Common or next to Selby) - this will really help with traffic at the rush hours.
"Very good idea to build accommodation for students in York City Centre far away from universities and houses for actual York residents on outskirts of city (for example Strensall Common or next to Selby) - this will really help with traffic at the rush hours."

This is an irony by the way.....
[quote][p][bold]anazah[/bold] wrote: Do anybody in the council actually notice that in almost the same place at Hallfield Road is already student house for around 30 students? So if the project will go ahead in the area will be not 326 students but 356 students!!! Very good idea to build accommodation for students in York City Centre far away from universities and houses for actual York residents on outskirts of city (for example Strensall Common or next to Selby) - this will really help with traffic at the rush hours.[/p][/quote]"Very good idea to build accommodation for students in York City Centre far away from universities and houses for actual York residents on outskirts of city (for example Strensall Common or next to Selby) - this will really help with traffic at the rush hours." This is an irony by the way..... anazah

1:41pm Mon 20 Jan 14

JHardacre says...

Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on?
Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on? JHardacre

2:04pm Mon 20 Jan 14

rattydriver says...

Do people not realise how much students bring to the area? The money they spend in bars, restaurants and supermarkets? All help to keep local people in jobs! Stop been so short sighted. Hopefully more plans like this will free up houses
Do people not realise how much students bring to the area? The money they spend in bars, restaurants and supermarkets? All help to keep local people in jobs! Stop been so short sighted. Hopefully more plans like this will free up houses rattydriver

2:35pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Ican'tdecideonaname says...

Pedro wrote:
The University East campus should have made plans to accommodate all students on campus (or at least that should have been the main aim) rather than push up the price of property within the city. If you create a problem you should be the one solving it, not the rest of society.

By the way York Press journalists. Courts in this country have never used a gravel. Not ever. So your picture is always wrong.
Gravel????....oh you mean gavel!!!
[quote][p][bold]Pedro[/bold] wrote: The University East campus should have made plans to accommodate all students on campus (or at least that should have been the main aim) rather than push up the price of property within the city. If you create a problem you should be the one solving it, not the rest of society. By the way York Press journalists. Courts in this country have never used a gravel. Not ever. So your picture is always wrong.[/p][/quote]Gravel????....oh you mean gavel!!! Ican'tdecideonaname

2:40pm Mon 20 Jan 14

chelk says...

All universities should have to provide enough accommodation on their own land to house all of their students, until they do they should not be allowed to expand the university or take in extra students
All universities should have to provide enough accommodation on their own land to house all of their students, until they do they should not be allowed to expand the university or take in extra students chelk

3:40pm Mon 20 Jan 14

NoMorePlease says...

chelk wrote:
All universities should have to provide enough accommodation on their own land to house all of their students, until they do they should not be allowed to expand the university or take in extra students
What about city centre universities (unlike York). Say Manchester with 50 thousand students.
[quote][p][bold]chelk[/bold] wrote: All universities should have to provide enough accommodation on their own land to house all of their students, until they do they should not be allowed to expand the university or take in extra students[/p][/quote]What about city centre universities (unlike York). Say Manchester with 50 thousand students. NoMorePlease

5:35pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Phalanges says...

All the aggravation of these dribs and drabs of student acomodation could have been solved by building one world-shattering 200 story block and naming it ‘The Retard’. Then after results days, failed students could jump off, hopefully landing on the council leader or that peddling guy!
All the aggravation of these dribs and drabs of student acomodation could have been solved by building one world-shattering 200 story block and naming it ‘The Retard’. Then after results days, failed students could jump off, hopefully landing on the council leader or that peddling guy! Phalanges

6:11pm Mon 20 Jan 14

RoseD says...

JHardacre wrote:
Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on?
Planet NoCarsExist.
[quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on?[/p][/quote]Planet NoCarsExist. RoseD

6:19pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Yorkie41 says...

RoseD wrote:
JHardacre wrote:
Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on?
Planet NoCarsExist.
They should be providing off the street parking in my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]RoseD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on?[/p][/quote]Planet NoCarsExist.[/p][/quote]They should be providing off the street parking in my opinion. Yorkie41

8:34pm Mon 20 Jan 14

Pinza-C55 says...

rattydriver wrote:
Do people not realise how much students bring to the area? The money they spend in bars, restaurants and supermarkets? All help to keep local people in jobs! Stop been so short sighted. Hopefully more plans like this will free up houses
Except of course if they take advantage of their breaks and go home which means for 5 months they are not even in York so they can hardly spend money here.
http://www.york.ac.u
k/about/term-dates/
[quote][p][bold]rattydriver[/bold] wrote: Do people not realise how much students bring to the area? The money they spend in bars, restaurants and supermarkets? All help to keep local people in jobs! Stop been so short sighted. Hopefully more plans like this will free up houses[/p][/quote]Except of course if they take advantage of their breaks and go home which means for 5 months they are not even in York so they can hardly spend money here. http://www.york.ac.u k/about/term-dates/ Pinza-C55

10:31pm Mon 20 Jan 14

anazah says...

Yorkie41 wrote:
RoseD wrote:
JHardacre wrote:
Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on?
Planet NoCarsExist.
They should be providing off the street parking in my opinion.
No chance - double yellow line on both sides of James Street and Hallfield Road and cycle paths also on both sides.
[quote][p][bold]Yorkie41[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoseD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on?[/p][/quote]Planet NoCarsExist.[/p][/quote]They should be providing off the street parking in my opinion.[/p][/quote]No chance - double yellow line on both sides of James Street and Hallfield Road and cycle paths also on both sides. anazah

3:41am Tue 21 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

Grey Lady wrote:
Only 10 car parking spaces!? If it goes ahead let's hope 326 sets of parents don't all turn up at once to move their children in.
The uni could hire Elvington airfield as a popup park and ride site, and adopt "festival style" double-decker bus use policy: all luggage and bags put in the downstairs saloon, and everybody travelling sits upstairs. It seems to work at Glastonbury which, considering people are taking tents which will be their homes for a few days, sets a benchmark.

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There were also some fears about possible anti social behaviour and loss of privacy for people living nearby.

What people? who lives right near the proposed site? the nearest houses are at least 200 meters away.
[quote][p][bold]Grey Lady[/bold] wrote: Only 10 car parking spaces!? If it goes ahead let's hope 326 sets of parents don't all turn up at once to move their children in.[/p][/quote]The uni could hire Elvington airfield as a popup park and ride site, and adopt "festival style" double-decker bus use policy: all luggage and bags put in the downstairs saloon, and everybody travelling sits upstairs. It seems to work at Glastonbury which, considering people are taking tents which will be their homes for a few days, sets a benchmark. ------- [quote]There were also some fears about possible anti social behaviour and loss of privacy for people living nearby. [/quote] What people? who lives right near the proposed site? the nearest houses are at least 200 meters away. Magicman!

3:46am Tue 21 Jan 14

Magicman! says...

anazah wrote:
Yorkie41 wrote:
RoseD wrote:
JHardacre wrote:
Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on?
Planet NoCarsExist.
They should be providing off the street parking in my opinion.
No chance - double yellow line on both sides of James Street and Hallfield Road and cycle paths also on both sides.
The James Street travellers don't take any notice of that, parking all over the pavements and partly on the roads. Anyway, if this went ahead, I'd be very suprised if some parents moving their kids in didn't park in the Morrisons car park and ferry their kids stuff into the building.
[quote][p][bold]anazah[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Yorkie41[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]RoseD[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]JHardacre[/bold] wrote: Just 10 parking spaces? What planet are these people on?[/p][/quote]Planet NoCarsExist.[/p][/quote]They should be providing off the street parking in my opinion.[/p][/quote]No chance - double yellow line on both sides of James Street and Hallfield Road and cycle paths also on both sides.[/p][/quote]The James Street travellers don't take any notice of that, parking all over the pavements and partly on the roads. Anyway, if this went ahead, I'd be very suprised if some parents moving their kids in didn't park in the Morrisons car park and ferry their kids stuff into the building. Magicman!

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