People in York facing drunk and disorderly charges could be offered place on new awareness project instead of court appearance

York Press: . .

PEOPLE arrested for being drunk and disorderly in York will soon be able to attend a one-day course instead of being charged.

Offenders will be encouraged on the courses to reflect on their behaviour and self-image rather than purely alcohol issues, says a report to City of York Council’s Community Safety Overview & Scrutiny Committee.

The Alcohol Referral Project courses bears some similarities to speed awareness courses, which are offered to many motorists caught speeding instead of offenders having points put on their licence.

The report says places on courses will be offered to people “arrested for public order and drunkenness offences.”

After being arrested, people will be bailed for 14 days and then given the option to attend the course, in which case their bail will be cancelled.” it says.

“If the option of the course is not taken up, they will be charged for the offence.”

The project, which will be operated by the charity Lifeline and run for a pilot period of 12 to 18 months, will exclude anyone who is alcohol dependent, has mental health issues or is a prolific offender.

“Previous studies have shown that the impact of the course on participants lasts for about a year but they will receive text message alerts (written by themselves on the course) after this time to keep up motivation,” says the report.

“Funding has been provided by the North Yorkshire Substance Misuse Partnership which will allow for the course to be initially free of charge, but a charge could be introduced at a later date.”

The report said the University of York had agreed to provide evaluation of the project.

Similar alcohol referral schemes already run elsewhere in the country, including in Wiltshire, Derbyshire, Portsmouth and Gloucestershire, where a referral scheme claims to have cut the number of offenders re-committing alcohol related offences by 50 per cent.

The report also reveals that:

• Alcohol awareness campaigns may be held at the University of York amid concerns about the number of drunk freshers who attended York Hospital’s A&E department

• British Transport Police, who have increased their presence on trains into York from Middlesbrough to tackle drunkenness among passengers, have noticed a worrying trend of women “pre-loading” (drinking) a high amounts of spirits before they go out for the night, who said they would not have the confidence to go out without having a number of drinks first

• A new Alcohol Restriction Zone (ARZ) is set to be officially introduced in the city centre next month, with portable display banners to be deployed at the railway station on Saturdays to inform travellers of the zone and to try to deter them from taking alcohol into pubs and clubs.

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10:46am Fri 10 Jan 14

courier46 says...

Why not charge them and get them to do the course. More slap on wrists
Why not charge them and get them to do the course. More slap on wrists courier46

11:06am Fri 10 Jan 14

ian923 says...

Rubbish. They deserve to go to Court and be punished. Again we are forgetting about the victims of drink fuelled behaviour.
Rubbish. They deserve to go to Court and be punished. Again we are forgetting about the victims of drink fuelled behaviour. ian923

11:25am Fri 10 Jan 14

BL2 says...

What ridiculous idea! What is this going to achieve? Either they are normally law abiding but have a problem when drunk - no change unless they stop drinking - or they cause trouble anyway - they won't care and will just repeat offend!
What ridiculous idea! What is this going to achieve? Either they are normally law abiding but have a problem when drunk - no change unless they stop drinking - or they cause trouble anyway - they won't care and will just repeat offend! BL2

11:39am Fri 10 Jan 14

baldiebiker says...

wonder if the course will be held in a pub?
wonder if the course will be held in a pub? baldiebiker

11:52am Fri 10 Jan 14

oi oi savaloy says...

is this because most of the people drunk and disorderly are students now?
is this because most of the people drunk and disorderly are students now? oi oi savaloy

12:15pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Sillybillies says...

No wonder we get cases like this one - http://www.yorkpress
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Charge & take to court, get them a nice criminal conviction on their CVs to enhance their job prospects, especially if they are students. Prosecute them and keep prosecuting them every time they offend.
No wonder we get cases like this one - http://www.yorkpress .co.uk/news/10928739 .Violent_yobs_left_t rain_passengers_in_t ears/ Charge & take to court, get them a nice criminal conviction on their CVs to enhance their job prospects, especially if they are students. Prosecute them and keep prosecuting them every time they offend. Sillybillies

12:31pm Fri 10 Jan 14

rking1977 says...

So where's the deterrent in that..? Put them in high vis vests and get them scrubbing the puke off the pavements on a Sunday morning. It'd be very 'uncool' so might actually change behaviour and it'd directly benefit the communities they blight.
So where's the deterrent in that..? Put them in high vis vests and get them scrubbing the puke off the pavements on a Sunday morning. It'd be very 'uncool' so might actually change behaviour and it'd directly benefit the communities they blight. rking1977

12:41pm Fri 10 Jan 14

rking1977 says...

Also, it's publically-funded and free to offenders?! So instead of offenders going to court and having to pay a fine, everyone else will have to pay for their place on it... during a recession!
“Funding has been provided by the North Yorkshire Substance Misuse Partnership which will allow for the course to be initially free of charge, but a charge could be introduced at a later date.”
Also, it's publically-funded and free to offenders?! So instead of offenders going to court and having to pay a fine, everyone else will have to pay for their place on it... during a recession! “Funding has been provided by the North Yorkshire Substance Misuse Partnership which will allow for the course to be initially free of charge, but a charge could be introduced at a later date.” rking1977

1:09pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Sillybillies says...

North Yorkshire Substance Misuse Partnership?????

What a load of spherical objects, this sort of mumbo jumbo doesn't work. Arrest and charge, when convicted fine them, and get them a criminal record, that's a real deterrent. Mind you, it takes a real police force to do that, maybe that's the flaw today.
North Yorkshire Substance Misuse Partnership????? What a load of spherical objects, this sort of mumbo jumbo doesn't work. Arrest and charge, when convicted fine them, and get them a criminal record, that's a real deterrent. Mind you, it takes a real police force to do that, maybe that's the flaw today. Sillybillies

1:50pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Can't all be wrong says...

If a large proportion of offenders are students, that should ring alarm bells for the university's involved. Surely the university should be taking measures to "educate" the new comers how to behave, how to be safe and how to fit in with the communities they now share. After the event is a little late as well as being hugely costly for all the agencies involved.
If a large proportion of offenders are students, that should ring alarm bells for the university's involved. Surely the university should be taking measures to "educate" the new comers how to behave, how to be safe and how to fit in with the communities they now share. After the event is a little late as well as being hugely costly for all the agencies involved. Can't all be wrong

3:21pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Brythonicman says...

This is a complete and utter waste of time and money, Charge them, fine them, ban them from public houses for a period equal to the severity of their D&D. Don't pander to them.
This is a complete and utter waste of time and money, Charge them, fine them, ban them from public houses for a period equal to the severity of their D&D. Don't pander to them. Brythonicman

4:34pm Fri 10 Jan 14

Overproof says...

Some of them would rather pay a £100 fine. So it is more of a punishment to make them sit in a classroom all day long.

Takes up a day of their time, teaches them what a fool they have been.

Needs to be Mon-Fri as well, so they have to take time off work and lose a days pay.
Some of them would rather pay a £100 fine. So it is more of a punishment to make them sit in a classroom all day long. Takes up a day of their time, teaches them what a fool they have been. Needs to be Mon-Fri as well, so they have to take time off work and lose a days pay. Overproof

6:15pm Fri 10 Jan 14

anistasia says...

I've said on other blogs people who get drugs or drunk always seem to get a lesser sentence.if these people did the same crime while not on drugs or drunk would get a stiffer sentence.do the crime pay the fine and get a criminal record.if these people don't get charged they can carry on.think of the victims.another move to help the law breakers.
I've said on other blogs people who get drugs or drunk always seem to get a lesser sentence.if these people did the same crime while not on drugs or drunk would get a stiffer sentence.do the crime pay the fine and get a criminal record.if these people don't get charged they can carry on.think of the victims.another move to help the law breakers. anistasia

7:00pm Fri 10 Jan 14

madaxman says...

Why give a person a criminal record for what would probably amount to youthful exuberance in the case of most students. We have all overdone it at times in our lives and would we not like the benefit of the doubt? The report clearly states that this is not an option for repeat offenders or alcohol dependents so where is the harm? If it stops even a handful of students ruining their chances at such a young age then I am all for it. None of you ever made a mistake?
Why give a person a criminal record for what would probably amount to youthful exuberance in the case of most students. We have all overdone it at times in our lives and would we not like the benefit of the doubt? The report clearly states that this is not an option for repeat offenders or alcohol dependents so where is the harm? If it stops even a handful of students ruining their chances at such a young age then I am all for it. None of you ever made a mistake? madaxman

8:51pm Fri 10 Jan 14

bolero says...

These people are criminals in the eyes of the law,otherwise they would not have been charged and appearing in court. Fine them or jail them, give them a criminal record and banish them from our streets then they will not be in a position to offend the law abiding citizens who are continually inconvenienced. by them. Also stop issuing licences to sell alcohol to every Tom, Dick and Harry supermarket that applies for one to sell alcohol every hour of the day in our shopping streets. And while we're at it, when are the licencees of public houses going to be punished for breaking the law by selling alcohol to individuals who have obviously already partaken of too much?
These people are criminals in the eyes of the law,otherwise they would not have been charged and appearing in court. Fine them or jail them, give them a criminal record and banish them from our streets then they will not be in a position to offend the law abiding citizens who are continually inconvenienced. by them. Also stop issuing licences to sell alcohol to every Tom, Dick and Harry supermarket that applies for one to sell alcohol every hour of the day in our shopping streets. And while we're at it, when are the licencees of public houses going to be punished for breaking the law by selling alcohol to individuals who have obviously already partaken of too much? bolero

10:41pm Fri 10 Jan 14

bolero says...

The publicans and habitual drunks are coming out here aren't they?
The publicans and habitual drunks are coming out here aren't they? bolero

12:48pm Sat 11 Jan 14

ian923 says...

I see that all the drunks have been reading this and voting!
I see that all the drunks have been reading this and voting! ian923

7:32pm Sat 11 Jan 14

madaxman says...

Narrow minded bigots. Daily Mail readers too I imagine.
Narrow minded bigots. Daily Mail readers too I imagine. madaxman

3:12pm Sun 12 Jan 14

Sillybillies says...

bolero wrote:
These people are criminals in the eyes of the law,otherwise they would not have been charged and appearing in court. Fine them or jail them, give them a criminal record and banish them from our streets then they will not be in a position to offend the law abiding citizens who are continually inconvenienced. by them. Also stop issuing licences to sell alcohol to every Tom, Dick and Harry supermarket that applies for one to sell alcohol every hour of the day in our shopping streets. And while we're at it, when are the licencees of public houses going to be punished for breaking the law by selling alcohol to individuals who have obviously already partaken of too much?
Correct!
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: These people are criminals in the eyes of the law,otherwise they would not have been charged and appearing in court. Fine them or jail them, give them a criminal record and banish them from our streets then they will not be in a position to offend the law abiding citizens who are continually inconvenienced. by them. Also stop issuing licences to sell alcohol to every Tom, Dick and Harry supermarket that applies for one to sell alcohol every hour of the day in our shopping streets. And while we're at it, when are the licencees of public houses going to be punished for breaking the law by selling alcohol to individuals who have obviously already partaken of too much?[/p][/quote]Correct! Sillybillies

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