Homes plan for Bay Horse at Barlby set for green light

York Press: Bay Horse manager Alyson Griffiths with the petition launched last year to try and save the pub Bay Horse manager Alyson Griffiths with the petition launched last year to try and save the pub

PLANS to turn a village pub into 13 new homes could be approved next week despite a campaign to save it.

Almost 600 names were added to a petition calling for the survival of the Bay Horse at Barlby, alongside a Facebook appeal for it to stay open, after its owners Enterprise Inns applied to Selby District Council for permission to demolish it to make way for housing.

The proposals will be debated by the authority’s planning committee on Wednesday and officials have said they should be approved.

The campaign for the Bay Horse to be saved was launched by manager Alyson Griffith, who said it was being turned around and business was increasing.

CAMRA has said the demolition of the pub would be a sad loss for the area. Enterprise said it was reviewing its options for the site and submitting the planning application for housing was part of this process.

In September, the company said no firm decisions about the pub’s future had been made.

Barlby and Osgodby Parish Council has said the plans would be overdevelopment of the York Road site and raised concerns that more homes in the area and increasing pressure on the local sewer system could exacerbate flooding problems.

It also said it would generate more traffic on York Road.

However, North Yorkshire County Council highways officers said there were no roads issues connected to the scheme, although Enterprise would have to pay for a bus stop outside the Bay Horse to be moved.

As well as the petition, 13 objection letters have been sent to the council, with some saying the pub is an important village hub and hosts charity events as well as being a base for local sports teams.

A report by council planning officer Louise Milnes said the homes would have between two and six bedrooms.

She said: “The scheme could provide an appropriate type of accommodation which is reflective of the area and will assist in ensuring a mixed community.”

Three of the homes would be affordable housing, and the report said the plans were “acceptable” in terms of roads, flooding and drainage issues.

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9:17am Sat 4 Jan 14

smudge2 says...

If it was viable it would stay open . It is the usual story with village pubs that unless they offer exceptional food the locals desert them in droves ...Take a good example in the Ryther Arms which is a village pub on the out skirts of York with fabulous food which is always busy ..A lesson to be learnt ??..Still very sad to lose any villages hub for people to meet.
If it was viable it would stay open . It is the usual story with village pubs that unless they offer exceptional food the locals desert them in droves ...Take a good example in the Ryther Arms which is a village pub on the out skirts of York with fabulous food which is always busy ..A lesson to be learnt ??..Still very sad to lose any villages hub for people to meet. smudge2

10:09am Sat 4 Jan 14

nearlyman says...

smudge2 wrote:
If it was viable it would stay open . It is the usual story with village pubs that unless they offer exceptional food the locals desert them in droves ...Take a good example in the Ryther Arms which is a village pub on the out skirts of York with fabulous food which is always busy ..A lesson to be learnt ??..Still very sad to lose any villages hub for people to meet.
Hardly on the outskirts of York ! But well worth the trip !!
[quote][p][bold]smudge2[/bold] wrote: If it was viable it would stay open . It is the usual story with village pubs that unless they offer exceptional food the locals desert them in droves ...Take a good example in the Ryther Arms which is a village pub on the out skirts of York with fabulous food which is always busy ..A lesson to be learnt ??..Still very sad to lose any villages hub for people to meet.[/p][/quote]Hardly on the outskirts of York ! But well worth the trip !! nearlyman

4:43pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Mullarkian says...

The whole of Barlby is built on a flood plain, only the raised banks of the Ouse keep it from flooding,
Why do they want to put up more houses, and how will prospective buyers get insurance?
The whole of Barlby is built on a flood plain, only the raised banks of the Ouse keep it from flooding, Why do they want to put up more houses, and how will prospective buyers get insurance? Mullarkian

7:05pm Sat 4 Jan 14

Oyy you says...

Enterprise seam to be doing this a lot lately.
Enterprise seam to be doing this a lot lately. Oyy you

12:28pm Sun 5 Jan 14

ChrisTulloch says...

I work for a pub company and never want to see pubs close, in fact I take pride from injecting new life into pubs that have previously been closed (or should have been)
That being said, and this may well not be the case for the Bay Horse, but we once bought a rural pub as part of a small package that we converted to housing.
There was a petition to save the pub with over 1,000 names on it. The pub however took around £500 per week over the bar (2006).
I met with the concerned residents at the council offices and we all put our points of view forwards. My point was a simple one. Signing a petition is all well and good, but if each of the people had bought just one pint a week in the pub, takings would have increased five fold and the business may have had a viable case to remain open.
I have opened (or re-opened) many pubs over the years. My best advice to concerned residents is to make sure that by supporting your pub you are doing more than signing a petition, but actually spend a few bob behind the bar.
Cheers, and good luck to the Bay Horse
I work for a pub company and never want to see pubs close, in fact I take pride from injecting new life into pubs that have previously been closed (or should have been) That being said, and this may well not be the case for the Bay Horse, but we once bought a rural pub as part of a small package that we converted to housing. There was a petition to save the pub with over 1,000 names on it. The pub however took around £500 per week over the bar (2006). I met with the concerned residents at the council offices and we all put our points of view forwards. My point was a simple one. Signing a petition is all well and good, but if each of the people had bought just one pint a week in the pub, takings would have increased five fold and the business may have had a viable case to remain open. I have opened (or re-opened) many pubs over the years. My best advice to concerned residents is to make sure that by supporting your pub you are doing more than signing a petition, but actually spend a few bob behind the bar. Cheers, and good luck to the Bay Horse ChrisTulloch

3:06pm Sun 5 Jan 14

sheps lad says...

ChrisTulloch wrote:
I work for a pub company and never want to see pubs close, in fact I take pride from injecting new life into pubs that have previously been closed (or should have been)
That being said, and this may well not be the case for the Bay Horse, but we once bought a rural pub as part of a small package that we converted to housing.
There was a petition to save the pub with over 1,000 names on it. The pub however took around £500 per week over the bar (2006).
I met with the concerned residents at the council offices and we all put our points of view forwards. My point was a simple one. Signing a petition is all well and good, but if each of the people had bought just one pint a week in the pub, takings would have increased five fold and the business may have had a viable case to remain open.
I have opened (or re-opened) many pubs over the years. My best advice to concerned residents is to make sure that by supporting your pub you are doing more than signing a petition, but actually spend a few bob behind the bar.
Cheers, and good luck to the Bay Horse
Right on! use it or lose it!
[quote][p][bold]ChrisTulloch[/bold] wrote: I work for a pub company and never want to see pubs close, in fact I take pride from injecting new life into pubs that have previously been closed (or should have been) That being said, and this may well not be the case for the Bay Horse, but we once bought a rural pub as part of a small package that we converted to housing. There was a petition to save the pub with over 1,000 names on it. The pub however took around £500 per week over the bar (2006). I met with the concerned residents at the council offices and we all put our points of view forwards. My point was a simple one. Signing a petition is all well and good, but if each of the people had bought just one pint a week in the pub, takings would have increased five fold and the business may have had a viable case to remain open. I have opened (or re-opened) many pubs over the years. My best advice to concerned residents is to make sure that by supporting your pub you are doing more than signing a petition, but actually spend a few bob behind the bar. Cheers, and good luck to the Bay Horse[/p][/quote]Right on! use it or lose it! sheps lad

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