Ryedale residents are being warned about travel chaos over the Christmas holiday

York Press: Christmas travel warning Christmas travel warning

PEOPLE planning to join the great festive getaway are being warned to expect busy roads and disrupted rail services.

Many Christmas travellers are heading off from today for the festive break, but major engineering projects mean rail passengers will face line closures, reduced services and buses replacing trains on a number of routes.

The Met Office is also forecasting unsettled weather for the region from today and spilling over the Christmas holiday, with wind and rain expected this afternoon and evening.

The RAC said on Christmas Eve an estimated 4.3 million vehicles will take to the roads, with 3.7 million on Christmas Day and 4.1 million on Boxing Day.

Traffic information company Inrix said the busiest time was likely to be from noon to 5pm today.

Inrix warned journey times could triple at the busiest festive time, with shopping areas particularly busy this weekend and on Friday, December 27.

For rail travellers, essential engineering work means the axing of all Gatwick Express services from Christmas Day to the end of New Year’s Day.

Road transport will replace trains through Peterborough on Friday, December 27, to allow work to remove a bottle neck on the East Coast Main Line.

Traditionally, no services run on Christmas Day and Boxing Day and the timing has been chosen to limit passenger disruption to a single day. The company will be running revised timetables between Monday, December 23, and Thursday, January 2.

Phil Verster, route managing director, Network Rail, said: “This Christmas marks an important change for all passengers who use the East Coast Main Line. We are installing a new signalling system at Peterborough which will help to make services more reliable.”

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8:12am Fri 20 Dec 13

Jigsaw_13 says...

Lets hope the lights on station road are fixed.

Not been working last 3 days and can't believe they haven't set up temporary ones, a danger for motorists, cyclists and pedestrians.
Lets hope the lights on station road are fixed. Not been working last 3 days and can't believe they haven't set up temporary ones, a danger for motorists, cyclists and pedestrians. Jigsaw_13

9:12am Fri 20 Dec 13

smudge2 says...

People travelling at Christmas when they are on holiday.....whatever next...ah yes the great British institution tell them how to do it.(Don't forget a shovel and a blanket and a warm flask in the boot !!!)
People travelling at Christmas when they are on holiday.....whatever next...ah yes the great British institution tell them how to do it.(Don't forget a shovel and a blanket and a warm flask in the boot !!!) smudge2

4:02pm Fri 20 Dec 13

oldgoat says...

Jigsaw_13 wrote:
Lets hope the lights on station road are fixed.

Not been working last 3 days and can't believe they haven't set up temporary ones, a danger for motorists, cyclists and pedestrians.
Danger?
Every time the Blossom Street lights fail, the traffic flow is far better.
[quote][p][bold]Jigsaw_13[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the lights on station road are fixed. Not been working last 3 days and can't believe they haven't set up temporary ones, a danger for motorists, cyclists and pedestrians.[/p][/quote]Danger? Every time the Blossom Street lights fail, the traffic flow is far better. oldgoat

4:05pm Fri 20 Dec 13

smiler45 says...

I can't believe in the 21st century that we still suffer with traffic or rail delays, and we can fly man and rovers to the moon, something is very wrong with our priorities :-)
I can't believe in the 21st century that we still suffer with traffic or rail delays, and we can fly man and rovers to the moon, something is very wrong with our priorities :-) smiler45

4:17pm Fri 20 Dec 13

smiler45 says...

smiler45 wrote:
I can't believe in the 21st century that we still suffer with traffic or rail delays, and we can fly man and rovers to the moon, something is very wrong with our priorities :-)
In relation to the previous post.

1) There are no road works or stupid 20 mile hr speed zones on the moon.
2) Traffic lights don't exist on the moon.
3) There are less vehicles traveling on the surface of the moon than there is on our roads on earth today.

Maybe there is a lesson to be learned from this! Reduce the number of vehicles on the roads or come up with new forms of transport.
[quote][p][bold]smiler45[/bold] wrote: I can't believe in the 21st century that we still suffer with traffic or rail delays, and we can fly man and rovers to the moon, something is very wrong with our priorities :-)[/p][/quote]In relation to the previous post. 1) There are no road works or stupid 20 mile hr speed zones on the moon. 2) Traffic lights don't exist on the moon. 3) There are less vehicles traveling on the surface of the moon than there is on our roads on earth today. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned from this! Reduce the number of vehicles on the roads or come up with new forms of transport. smiler45

8:21pm Fri 20 Dec 13

BigJon says...

Jigsaw_13 wrote:
Lets hope the lights on station road are fixed.

Not been working last 3 days and can't believe they haven't set up temporary ones, a danger for motorists, cyclists and pedestrians.
And how many accidents have there been in the same 3 days? I don't see The Press full of articles about road chaos, damaged vehicles and maimed pedestrians/cyclists as you seem to imply.
[quote][p][bold]Jigsaw_13[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the lights on station road are fixed. Not been working last 3 days and can't believe they haven't set up temporary ones, a danger for motorists, cyclists and pedestrians.[/p][/quote]And how many accidents have there been in the same 3 days? I don't see The Press full of articles about road chaos, damaged vehicles and maimed pedestrians/cyclists as you seem to imply. BigJon

2:38am Sat 21 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

Jigsaw_13 wrote:
Lets hope the lights on station road are fixed.

Not been working last 3 days and can't believe they haven't set up temporary ones, a danger for motorists, cyclists and pedestrians.
I've been through there several times on the bike since they've been out and it's great! Come through from lendal bridge downhill, put on the brakes slightly and look to the right to check for traffic from the station and if I have got to the stop line before other traffic then I proceed but if a vehicle from Rougier Street has got to their respective stop line before me then they have priority... same principle for coming from the station.
To be honest, its worse when the lights are on:- case in point being if I am on a bike and have come from Rougier Street or the council offices and wish to go towards Lendal Bridge - the traffic lights at Station Avenue give green to my direction at the same time as traffic from Leeman Road, the principle being that traffic merges in the sequence of 1 car from Leeman Road and then 1 car from Station Rise and so on - but instead this has become like the 'merge' at Fawcett Street whereby the cars turning left try to force priority over the traffic turning right. Bus drivers have to bully their way in to get around the corner (unless a bus is coming the other way, as the other bus driver lets them go first), but on a bicycle all the drivers just assume the "I'm bigger than you so you can wait" policy. I haven't seen that anywhere near as much since the lights went out.

Maybe the council should leave these lights out for a while and monitor vehicle flows to see what happens. They've been doing it in Blackpool for a while now. And if it is seen that the traffic lights being out improves traffic flow then make it permanent - but alter the pedestrian crossing points to Zebra crossings to make it safer for those on foot.
[quote][p][bold]Jigsaw_13[/bold] wrote: Lets hope the lights on station road are fixed. Not been working last 3 days and can't believe they haven't set up temporary ones, a danger for motorists, cyclists and pedestrians.[/p][/quote]I've been through there several times on the bike since they've been out and it's great! Come through from lendal bridge downhill, put on the brakes slightly and look to the right to check for traffic from the station and if I have got to the stop line before other traffic then I proceed but if a vehicle from Rougier Street has got to their respective stop line before me then they have priority... same principle for coming from the station. To be honest, its worse when the lights are on:- case in point being if I am on a bike and have come from Rougier Street or the council offices and wish to go towards Lendal Bridge - the traffic lights at Station Avenue give green to my direction at the same time as traffic from Leeman Road, the principle being that traffic merges in the sequence of 1 car from Leeman Road and then 1 car from Station Rise and so on - but instead this has become like the 'merge' at Fawcett Street whereby the cars turning left try to force priority over the traffic turning right. Bus drivers have to bully their way in to get around the corner (unless a bus is coming the other way, as the other bus driver lets them go first), but on a bicycle all the drivers just assume the "I'm bigger than you so you can wait" policy. I haven't seen that anywhere near as much since the lights went out. Maybe the council should leave these lights out for a while and monitor vehicle flows to see what happens. They've been doing it in Blackpool for a while now. And if it is seen that the traffic lights being out improves traffic flow then make it permanent - but alter the pedestrian crossing points to Zebra crossings to make it safer for those on foot. Magicman!

2:49am Sat 21 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

smiler45 wrote:
smiler45 wrote:
I can't believe in the 21st century that we still suffer with traffic or rail delays, and we can fly man and rovers to the moon, something is very wrong with our priorities :-)
In relation to the previous post.

1) There are no road works or stupid 20 mile hr speed zones on the moon.
2) Traffic lights don't exist on the moon.
3) There are less vehicles traveling on the surface of the moon than there is on our roads on earth today.

Maybe there is a lesson to be learned from this! Reduce the number of vehicles on the roads or come up with new forms of transport.
Also the rail works are done at this time for a simple reason: two full days of absolute shutdown.... no passenger trains, no freight trains, not even the 'flying banana' is on the tracks. Under normal circumstances when railway engineering work is undertaken, it is done at night after the last train has passed and before the first train of the next day; assuming the last train is at midnight and the first is at 6am that gives a 6-hour 'possession' of the tracks - over Christmas and Boxing day they have right from the early shutdown on Christmas Eve to do work, so over 50 hours available. That equates to over 8 normal-length 'possessions' end-to-end and allows for some of the biggest projects to be kickstarted; with it then continuing for the few days between Boxing Day and New Years Day when less people are working and most leisure travellers are spending time with family and so less demand for trains. One year, the shutdown was used to install the new bridge that now stands at Moor Lane near Askham Bar (which replaced a slightly narrower bridge that was going rusty), and last year the shutdown enabled Netrok Rail to commission the systems that gave Holgate 4 track access to the rail station - this has shaved off sometimes up to 10 minutes off journey times as now trains don't have to wait so long just outside the station to get in to York.

This year, Manchester Victoria is closed off so they can put in overhead electric cables which will power electric trains instead of the knackered old diesels that currently choke that station.... and will speed up journey times.
[quote][p][bold]smiler45[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]smiler45[/bold] wrote: I can't believe in the 21st century that we still suffer with traffic or rail delays, and we can fly man and rovers to the moon, something is very wrong with our priorities :-)[/p][/quote]In relation to the previous post. 1) There are no road works or stupid 20 mile hr speed zones on the moon. 2) Traffic lights don't exist on the moon. 3) There are less vehicles traveling on the surface of the moon than there is on our roads on earth today. Maybe there is a lesson to be learned from this! Reduce the number of vehicles on the roads or come up with new forms of transport.[/p][/quote]Also the rail works are done at this time for a simple reason: two full days of absolute shutdown.... no passenger trains, no freight trains, not even the 'flying banana' is on the tracks. Under normal circumstances when railway engineering work is undertaken, it is done at night after the last train has passed and before the first train of the next day; assuming the last train is at midnight and the first is at 6am that gives a 6-hour 'possession' of the tracks - over Christmas and Boxing day they have right from the early shutdown on Christmas Eve to do work, so over 50 hours available. That equates to over 8 normal-length 'possessions' end-to-end and allows for some of the biggest projects to be kickstarted; with it then continuing for the few days between Boxing Day and New Years Day when less people are working and most leisure travellers are spending time with family and so less demand for trains. One year, the shutdown was used to install the new bridge that now stands at Moor Lane near Askham Bar (which replaced a slightly narrower bridge that was going rusty), and last year the shutdown enabled Netrok Rail to commission the systems that gave Holgate 4 track access to the rail station - this has shaved off sometimes up to 10 minutes off journey times as now trains don't have to wait so long just outside the station to get in to York. This year, Manchester Victoria is closed off so they can put in overhead electric cables which will power electric trains instead of the knackered old diesels that currently choke that station.... and will speed up journey times. Magicman!

9:17am Sat 21 Dec 13

browbeaten says...

So the morons will be out shopping on the 27th. Is this news or simply history ? Top tip of the day. Go shopping second week in January. Problem solved !
So the morons will be out shopping on the 27th. Is this news or simply history ? Top tip of the day. Go shopping second week in January. Problem solved ! browbeaten

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