Tesco supermarket talks in Helmsley put on hold

York Press: Tesco talks in Helmsley put on hold Tesco talks in Helmsley put on hold

TALKS to bring a Tesco store to Helmsley Town Hall have been put on hold after calls were made for an independent consultation to take place.

About 250 people, many of whom are against the proposals, attended a town council meeting on Monday night and put questions to the chairman of the town hall’s management committee, John Buffoni.

Mr Buffoni said that he was happy to answer questions from concerned residents, despite feeling as if he were “on trial” at a meeting the previous week organised by the town’s residents.

“People seem to be ignoring what is best for the town hall’s future. They keep talking about “save our town hall”, but the town hall does not need saving,” he said. “It is very well organised and well run, but we need to find another income. We will fix it, we have to. That’s more on the agenda than Tesco is.”

Tesco is yet to submit a planning application, but has made an offer to replace the library, which is currently in the town hall. The library, said to be looking for another venue due to council cuts, would be replaced with a Tesco Express store if the plans are approved.

But residents – and business owners in particular – are worried that the arrival of a supermarket would damage the town’s independent businesses.

Helmsley resident Helen Robinson, who organised the public meeting last week and welcomed a move for independent consultation, said she feels Tesco would see an end to Helmsley as it is now.

“Many people have come forward with ideas and offers of assistance,” she said. “The tremendous response from residents at the meeting and in writing revealed the strength of feeling and anger that they were not being given a voice when profound decisions affecting our town were being considered. I do hope the trust engages with people instead of pursuing an exceptionally unpopular course which would undoubtedly harm the Helmsley we all love.”

The full independent consultation, which will be run in conjunction with Community Matters, will begin in January and Mr Buffoni says it will address the issues raised so far.

The news of the consultation puts a temporary block on Tesco’s plans, while issues are resolved and Mr Buffoni is hoping that it will eliminate some of the animosity between residents and business owners towards the town hall trust.

He said: “We have put our negotiations with Tesco on hold at the moment until we establish exactly what the community feels about having Tesco and not just Helmsley traders and their allies either, it is about the whole community of Helmsley.

“These are real issues and have got to be dealt with properly. Just because someone has a very loud voice it does not make them right.”

However, not all residents are against Tesco coming to the town. Janet Snowdon, who has lived in Helmsley for 74 years, said: “We need to accept change. We can’t live in a museum, but we have got to move forward and if this entails having to have Tesco so we can keep our town hall then so be it.”

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1:35pm Thu 19 Dec 13

marvell says...

Tesco are a cancer on the high street - putting small independents out of business. They don't give a **** for the local community.
Tesco are a cancer on the high street - putting small independents out of business. They don't give a **** for the local community. marvell

5:07pm Thu 19 Dec 13

donotbecomeusa says...

Marvell you are so right. Souless, money grubbing!! when will people realize these places take away all character from a location so you can't tell which area you're in as everyplace looks the same.
Marvell you are so right. Souless, money grubbing!! when will people realize these places take away all character from a location so you can't tell which area you're in as everyplace looks the same. donotbecomeusa

6:53pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Main_Stand says...

Helmsley Town Council should hold a referendum of all residents in the same way Kirkbymoorside did and abide by the result.
Helmsley Town Council should hold a referendum of all residents in the same way Kirkbymoorside did and abide by the result. Main_Stand

7:32pm Thu 19 Dec 13

bolero says...

Tesco don't give two hoots about libraries or any other community facility. They are out to make as much money as possible without any thought for the local environment. They will accept on paper any conditions attaching to a planning approval but these will be blatantly ignored once they get a foothold. They destroy local businesses, they destroy the infrastructure of the locality with their juganaut delivery vehicles. As a previous correspondent said they are a cancer on the High St and should be resisted withas much vigour as possible.
Tesco don't give two hoots about libraries or any other community facility. They are out to make as much money as possible without any thought for the local environment. They will accept on paper any conditions attaching to a planning approval but these will be blatantly ignored once they get a foothold. They destroy local businesses, they destroy the infrastructure of the locality with their juganaut delivery vehicles. As a previous correspondent said they are a cancer on the High St and should be resisted withas much vigour as possible. bolero

8:02pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Roger S says...

especially in Helmsley!
especially in Helmsley! Roger S

8:09pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Roger S says...

a small express will bring nothing only taketh away. Something better will come along it's too easy to take the cash. It can't be Tesco or nothing.

Take a look at the massive bright Lidl sign at the crossroads in Pickering and realise the damage to our final sanctuaries and tourist draws.

On a brownfield site or out of site is a totally different matter, but again a small store adds nothing. Still they should not be so big they compete unfairly with speciality stores. A place like Helmsley has limited parkign and it should be for tourists and higher end shoppers or it will kill the place.
a small express will bring nothing only taketh away. Something better will come along it's too easy to take the cash. It can't be Tesco or nothing. Take a look at the massive bright Lidl sign at the crossroads in Pickering and realise the damage to our final sanctuaries and tourist draws. On a brownfield site or out of site is a totally different matter, but again a small store adds nothing. Still they should not be so big they compete unfairly with speciality stores. A place like Helmsley has limited parkign and it should be for tourists and higher end shoppers or it will kill the place. Roger S

9:03pm Thu 19 Dec 13

ouseswimmer says...

This will change the character of Helmsley immensely. Hope they fail to gain permission.
This will change the character of Helmsley immensely. Hope they fail to gain permission. ouseswimmer

9:15pm Thu 19 Dec 13

stopatred says...

This will ruin the place.
This will ruin the place. stopatred

10:49pm Thu 19 Dec 13

Pedro says...

The voice of self-interest. Independent shops and Tesco. Nobody is telling the truth. There are probably people in the town who would like the near sell by discount loaf or own brand tinned food. Nobody thinks of these people.
The voice of self-interest. Independent shops and Tesco. Nobody is telling the truth. There are probably people in the town who would like the near sell by discount loaf or own brand tinned food. Nobody thinks of these people. Pedro

11:03pm Thu 19 Dec 13

donotbecomeusa says...

Pedro wrote:
The voice of self-interest. Independent shops and Tesco. Nobody is telling the truth. There are probably people in the town who would like the near sell by discount loaf or own brand tinned food. Nobody thinks of these people.
HUH?
[quote][p][bold]Pedro[/bold] wrote: The voice of self-interest. Independent shops and Tesco. Nobody is telling the truth. There are probably people in the town who would like the near sell by discount loaf or own brand tinned food. Nobody thinks of these people.[/p][/quote]HUH? donotbecomeusa

9:17am Fri 20 Dec 13

twotonethomas says...

Tesco won't last long if all the naysayers are correct, because no-one will shop there.

Or could there just be the chance that, as Pedro says, the naysayers might be wrong?
Tesco won't last long if all the naysayers are correct, because no-one will shop there. Or could there just be the chance that, as Pedro says, the naysayers might be wrong? twotonethomas

9:12am Sat 21 Dec 13

browbeaten says...

Perhaps Tesco should get on with taking over Kirkbymoorside before planning it's assault on Helmsley. The derelict site on New Road In Kirby is a disgrace. Personally stopped shopping at Tesco s years ago. They would sell their grannies for sex if they thought money could be made at it.
Perhaps Tesco should get on with taking over Kirkbymoorside before planning it's assault on Helmsley. The derelict site on New Road In Kirby is a disgrace. Personally stopped shopping at Tesco s years ago. They would sell their grannies for sex if they thought money could be made at it. browbeaten

9:36am Sat 21 Dec 13

twotonethomas says...

browbeaten wrote:
Perhaps Tesco should get on with taking over Kirkbymoorside before planning it's assault on Helmsley. The derelict site on New Road In Kirby is a disgrace. Personally stopped shopping at Tesco s years ago. They would sell their grannies for sex if they thought money could be made at it.
It can, ask Rooney :)
[quote][p][bold]browbeaten[/bold] wrote: Perhaps Tesco should get on with taking over Kirkbymoorside before planning it's assault on Helmsley. The derelict site on New Road In Kirby is a disgrace. Personally stopped shopping at Tesco s years ago. They would sell their grannies for sex if they thought money could be made at it.[/p][/quote]It can, ask Rooney :) twotonethomas

11:12pm Sat 21 Dec 13

granny sue says...

Roger S wrote:
a small express will bring nothing only taketh away. Something better will come along it's too easy to take the cash. It can't be Tesco or nothing.

Take a look at the massive bright Lidl sign at the crossroads in Pickering and realise the damage to our final sanctuaries and tourist draws.

On a brownfield site or out of site is a totally different matter, but again a small store adds nothing. Still they should not be so big they compete unfairly with speciality stores. A place like Helmsley has limited parkign and it should be for tourists and higher end shoppers or it will kill the place.
Is snobbery alive and well in Helmsley, it might be hard to understand but a lot of people in Pickering are looking forward to the "massive bright Lidl sign" saying OPEN
[quote][p][bold]Roger S[/bold] wrote: a small express will bring nothing only taketh away. Something better will come along it's too easy to take the cash. It can't be Tesco or nothing. Take a look at the massive bright Lidl sign at the crossroads in Pickering and realise the damage to our final sanctuaries and tourist draws. On a brownfield site or out of site is a totally different matter, but again a small store adds nothing. Still they should not be so big they compete unfairly with speciality stores. A place like Helmsley has limited parkign and it should be for tourists and higher end shoppers or it will kill the place.[/p][/quote]Is snobbery alive and well in Helmsley, it might be hard to understand but a lot of people in Pickering are looking forward to the "massive bright Lidl sign" saying OPEN granny sue

7:56am Sun 22 Dec 13

Stewart says...

granny sue wrote:
Roger S wrote:
a small express will bring nothing only taketh away. Something better will come along it's too easy to take the cash. It can't be Tesco or nothing.

Take a look at the massive bright Lidl sign at the crossroads in Pickering and realise the damage to our final sanctuaries and tourist draws.

On a brownfield site or out of site is a totally different matter, but again a small store adds nothing. Still they should not be so big they compete unfairly with speciality stores. A place like Helmsley has limited parkign and it should be for tourists and higher end shoppers or it will kill the place.
Is snobbery alive and well in Helmsley, it might be hard to understand but a lot of people in Pickering are looking forward to the "massive bright Lidl sign" saying OPEN
Indeed snobbery is alive and well; what else would you expect in a little tory town like Helmsley. Indeed most of the powers that be would expect us to just shop in the local deli if they had their way. Personally I think the Lidl in Malton has been great for the town and I'm sure Pickering will be the same. The small delis are all well and good but the prices they charge can be astronomical. It is time some of these snobs started thinking about the less well off people of Ryedale for a change.
[quote][p][bold]granny sue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Roger S[/bold] wrote: a small express will bring nothing only taketh away. Something better will come along it's too easy to take the cash. It can't be Tesco or nothing. Take a look at the massive bright Lidl sign at the crossroads in Pickering and realise the damage to our final sanctuaries and tourist draws. On a brownfield site or out of site is a totally different matter, but again a small store adds nothing. Still they should not be so big they compete unfairly with speciality stores. A place like Helmsley has limited parkign and it should be for tourists and higher end shoppers or it will kill the place.[/p][/quote]Is snobbery alive and well in Helmsley, it might be hard to understand but a lot of people in Pickering are looking forward to the "massive bright Lidl sign" saying OPEN[/p][/quote]Indeed snobbery is alive and well; what else would you expect in a little tory town like Helmsley. Indeed most of the powers that be would expect us to just shop in the local deli if they had their way. Personally I think the Lidl in Malton has been great for the town and I'm sure Pickering will be the same. The small delis are all well and good but the prices they charge can be astronomical. It is time some of these snobs started thinking about the less well off people of Ryedale for a change. Stewart

9:41am Tue 24 Dec 13

Helmsleyworkingmumof3 says...

That's a great quote from Janet Snowden who is actually representative of the majority of the long standing Helmsley residents.
Honestly, to say that a Tesco express will undoubtedly harm the Helmsley we love is nonsense and to say that it would be an end to Helmsley as it is now is very funny. We have seen people and retailers come and go over the years into Helmsley. Please can you listen to those who actually have experience of the town and who really do care about Helmsley's heritage and future..
It was mentioned at the meeting that a Waitrose would be preferable. I think the issue here for the NIMBYS is that Tesco is not sufficiently upmarket. This is a case of pure snobbery and nothing more than loud shouting, tweeting, facebooking and campaigning from the NIMBYs in Helmsley. NIMBYs stop thinking of yourselves and start thinking about the whole community.
The independent retailers in Helmsley are niche - their trade won't be affected. A Tesco Express would be of great benefit to the community as a whole. Not only would they invest in the town hall, there would be money for community projects, a click and collect service, normal priced groceries, more employment, longer opening hours, more people coming to town to shop. The sooner the consultation is done the better and then we can get on with bringing a small Tesco to the town.
Have some respect for the hardworking Helmsley residents who want somewhere normal to shop and supplement our online grocery orders!
That's a great quote from Janet Snowden who is actually representative of the majority of the long standing Helmsley residents. Honestly, to say that a Tesco express will undoubtedly harm the Helmsley we love is nonsense and to say that it would be an end to Helmsley as it is now is very funny. We have seen people and retailers come and go over the years into Helmsley. Please can you listen to those who actually have experience of the town and who really do care about Helmsley's heritage and future.. It was mentioned at the meeting that a Waitrose would be preferable. I think the issue here for the NIMBYS is that Tesco is not sufficiently upmarket. This is a case of pure snobbery and nothing more than loud shouting, tweeting, facebooking and campaigning from the NIMBYs in Helmsley. NIMBYs stop thinking of yourselves and start thinking about the whole community. The independent retailers in Helmsley are niche - their trade won't be affected. A Tesco Express would be of great benefit to the community as a whole. Not only would they invest in the town hall, there would be money for community projects, a click and collect service, normal priced groceries, more employment, longer opening hours, more people coming to town to shop. The sooner the consultation is done the better and then we can get on with bringing a small Tesco to the town. Have some respect for the hardworking Helmsley residents who want somewhere normal to shop and supplement our online grocery orders! Helmsleyworkingmumof3

1:50am Wed 25 Dec 13

browbeaten says...

Helmsleyworkingmumof
3
wrote:
That's a great quote from Janet Snowden who is actually representative of the majority of the long standing Helmsley residents.
Honestly, to say that a Tesco express will undoubtedly harm the Helmsley we love is nonsense and to say that it would be an end to Helmsley as it is now is very funny. We have seen people and retailers come and go over the years into Helmsley. Please can you listen to those who actually have experience of the town and who really do care about Helmsley's heritage and future..
It was mentioned at the meeting that a Waitrose would be preferable. I think the issue here for the NIMBYS is that Tesco is not sufficiently upmarket. This is a case of pure snobbery and nothing more than loud shouting, tweeting, facebooking and campaigning from the NIMBYs in Helmsley. NIMBYs stop thinking of yourselves and start thinking about the whole community.
The independent retailers in Helmsley are niche - their trade won't be affected. A Tesco Express would be of great benefit to the community as a whole. Not only would they invest in the town hall, there would be money for community projects, a click and collect service, normal priced groceries, more employment, longer opening hours, more people coming to town to shop. The sooner the consultation is done the better and then we can get on with bringing a small Tesco to the town.
Have some respect for the hardworking Helmsley residents who want somewhere normal to shop and supplement our online grocery orders!
Here here. The Helmsley nimby squad have managed to block any building to the north of the one horse town now there sights are on the town centre. While i loathe tesco development of the town for working people should be encouraged.the current two shops are over priced. Bring on lidl or aldi and stuff all these well heeled oiks who have turned up in the last twenty years ! A pound shop might be a good idea, along with 50 council houses to the north of feversham road. All other areas of ryedale are receiving a royal stuffing over development so why not helmsley ? Why oh because it has become like bowness on Windermere but without a lake. God only knows why !
[quote][p][bold]Helmsleyworkingmumof 3[/bold] wrote: That's a great quote from Janet Snowden who is actually representative of the majority of the long standing Helmsley residents. Honestly, to say that a Tesco express will undoubtedly harm the Helmsley we love is nonsense and to say that it would be an end to Helmsley as it is now is very funny. We have seen people and retailers come and go over the years into Helmsley. Please can you listen to those who actually have experience of the town and who really do care about Helmsley's heritage and future.. It was mentioned at the meeting that a Waitrose would be preferable. I think the issue here for the NIMBYS is that Tesco is not sufficiently upmarket. This is a case of pure snobbery and nothing more than loud shouting, tweeting, facebooking and campaigning from the NIMBYs in Helmsley. NIMBYs stop thinking of yourselves and start thinking about the whole community. The independent retailers in Helmsley are niche - their trade won't be affected. A Tesco Express would be of great benefit to the community as a whole. Not only would they invest in the town hall, there would be money for community projects, a click and collect service, normal priced groceries, more employment, longer opening hours, more people coming to town to shop. The sooner the consultation is done the better and then we can get on with bringing a small Tesco to the town. Have some respect for the hardworking Helmsley residents who want somewhere normal to shop and supplement our online grocery orders![/p][/quote]Here here. The Helmsley nimby squad have managed to block any building to the north of the one horse town now there sights are on the town centre. While i loathe tesco development of the town for working people should be encouraged.the current two shops are over priced. Bring on lidl or aldi and stuff all these well heeled oiks who have turned up in the last twenty years ! A pound shop might be a good idea, along with 50 council houses to the north of feversham road. All other areas of ryedale are receiving a royal stuffing over development so why not helmsley ? Why oh because it has become like bowness on Windermere but without a lake. God only knows why ! browbeaten

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