Student flats plan for former Reg Vardy garage site in Lawrence Street

York Press: The Lawrence Street site when it was used as a car park after Reg Vardy had moved out The Lawrence Street site when it was used as a car park after Reg Vardy had moved out

REVISED plans to turn a former car showroom in York into hundreds of student flats could be approved this week.

Black Lion Ltd wants to build three buildings containing 220 flats on the Lawrence Street site where the Reg Vardy garage once operated.

The site had become a regular target for vandals and squatters in recent years and City of York planners have recommended the plans be approved, a year after the authority backed the developers’ original scheme.

The new application was submitted after architects looked again at the design of the development, which was previously intended to include 244 flats.

The new plans will be debated by the council’s planning committee on Thursday. In a written report, council planner Diane Cragg said five objections had been raised over issues including the impact of the development on neighbouring residents, noise, antisocial behaviour and the “takeover” of the area as a “student community”.

She said: “The scheme will provide much-needed accommodation to meet both existing and future student requirements and will directly assist in releasing existing market housing to meet affordable housing needs, particularly in the Fishergate ward.”

At the same meeting, councillors will be advised to approve plans for 55 new homes on the former Our Lady’s RC School site in Acomb.

A decision on Yorkshire Housing’s £6 million plans had been due last month, but the planning committee deferred it over concerns about play areas being provided and the “sustainability” of the project.

The developer has agreed to provide a play-space area, meaning one fewer home being built, but has said reaching the level of sustainability credentials some councillors requested would cost an extra £200,000 and make the scheme “economically unviable”.

The scheme, if approved, will see 41 of the homes being affordable housing, although fears have also been raised about its impact on Hob Moor and local roads and services. Yorkshire Housing has said the scheme will reduce overcrowding and the number of York families living in unsuitable accommodation.

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10:25am Tue 17 Dec 13

sniper 9964 says...

We do not need more student accommodation. What about the residents of York. That dont have space in their homes and need bigger accommodation. We the tax payers demand CyC stop this student invasion. Keep them on campus along with their mess.
We do not need more student accommodation. What about the residents of York. That dont have space in their homes and need bigger accommodation. We the tax payers demand CyC stop this student invasion. Keep them on campus along with their mess. sniper 9964

10:37am Tue 17 Dec 13

pbrowne2009@live.co.uk says...

I sort of agree with Sniper 9964, may be wouldn't have put it that blunt but he's on the right track. These student accommodations need building to take students OFF the private market. Every street in the Heslington, Heworth, Tang hall, Osbaldwick, and hull road area has a student home. Because of this, it forces rent prices UP for private accommodation as demand goes up. The university needs to step up their game and expand the accommodation on campus however. They have no problem spending millions expanding the university and even building a sports village but they can't seem to expand accommodation for long term students. It not only drives up private rent in York but It clogs the roads up when students take to their cars to drive from their private accommodation to campus.
I sort of agree with Sniper 9964, may be wouldn't have put it that blunt but he's on the right track. These student accommodations need building to take students OFF the private market. Every street in the Heslington, Heworth, Tang hall, Osbaldwick, and hull road area has a student home. Because of this, it forces rent prices UP for private accommodation as demand goes up. The university needs to step up their game and expand the accommodation on campus however. They have no problem spending millions expanding the university and even building a sports village but they can't seem to expand accommodation for long term students. It not only drives up private rent in York but It clogs the roads up when students take to their cars to drive from their private accommodation to campus. pbrowne2009@live.co.uk

10:50am Tue 17 Dec 13

Oyy you says...

Just what the area needs, more students to further spoil an already spoilt area........
Just what the area needs, more students to further spoil an already spoilt area........ Oyy you

10:58am Tue 17 Dec 13

Omega Point says...

"but It clogs the roads up when students take to their cars to drive from their private accommodation to campus."

Shame you had to spoil a reasonable argument with this silliness.
"but It clogs the roads up when students take to their cars to drive from their private accommodation to campus." Shame you had to spoil a reasonable argument with this silliness. Omega Point

11:04am Tue 17 Dec 13

The Great Buda says...

sniper 9964 wrote:
We do not need more student accommodation. What about the residents of York. That dont have space in their homes and need bigger accommodation. We the tax payers demand CyC stop this student invasion. Keep them on campus along with their mess.
Read the article.

This is exactly the type of Student accommodation that York DOES need.

More of this and get family homes back in the hands of familes.
[quote][p][bold]sniper 9964[/bold] wrote: We do not need more student accommodation. What about the residents of York. That dont have space in their homes and need bigger accommodation. We the tax payers demand CyC stop this student invasion. Keep them on campus along with their mess.[/p][/quote]Read the article. This is exactly the type of Student accommodation that York DOES need. More of this and get family homes back in the hands of familes. The Great Buda

11:07am Tue 17 Dec 13

take 5 says...

sniper and p browne absolutley spot on with your comments
sniper and p browne absolutley spot on with your comments take 5

11:10am Tue 17 Dec 13

take 5 says...

great buda snipers right about keeping them on campus the university should have been forced with its planning permission to build enough accommodation on its new build but we all know york council are in the universitys pocket !!
great buda snipers right about keeping them on campus the university should have been forced with its planning permission to build enough accommodation on its new build but we all know york council are in the universitys pocket !! take 5

12:14pm Tue 17 Dec 13

cynic3 says...

I really doubt that the plans are for 220 / 244 flats. Do they mean bedrooms arranged into a smaller number of flats?
I really doubt that the plans are for 220 / 244 flats. Do they mean bedrooms arranged into a smaller number of flats? cynic3

12:19pm Tue 17 Dec 13

ouseswimmer says...

Great news for York residents. The universities are guilty of not providing accommodation and dumping them on to the local private sector in York which has increased rents substantially over recent years. You will be amazed how many students from the Far East have over £1000 a month to spend on rent. Naturally this has displaced many York residents to places such as Selby. Hopefully ioncreased student accommodation wil reduce rents. Meanwhile the Universities should stop increasing student numbers and grabbing a quick £9000 a year and invest for the long term by providing their students accommodation and put a stop to the suffering York residents who are currently paying for the universities grabbing the quick and easy money.
Great news for York residents. The universities are guilty of not providing accommodation and dumping them on to the local private sector in York which has increased rents substantially over recent years. You will be amazed how many students from the Far East have over £1000 a month to spend on rent. Naturally this has displaced many York residents to places such as Selby. Hopefully ioncreased student accommodation wil reduce rents. Meanwhile the Universities should stop increasing student numbers and grabbing a quick £9000 a year and invest for the long term by providing their students accommodation and put a stop to the suffering York residents who are currently paying for the universities grabbing the quick and easy money. ouseswimmer

12:43pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Big Bad Wolf says...

Would it not be better to build accommodation next to the university building? This would reduce travel to and from campus and would also minimise noise disruption to local areas. I don't think that the university should be criticised for attracting students from outside the area though...
Would it not be better to build accommodation next to the university building? This would reduce travel to and from campus and would also minimise noise disruption to local areas. I don't think that the university should be criticised for attracting students from outside the area though... Big Bad Wolf

1:07pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Dave Ruddock says...

I would just like to say, The Univercity are not providing accommodation for there students and want the City yo cope with it, ermmm I think citizens are getting fed up with the city turning into cambridge/oxford. More accommodation in the Uni Campus, not city, as the council have said "more accommodation for Residents, Not Students term times, better still we have 2 accommodation blocks, Old Rowntrees and Old Terrys, readly built for dormatory accommodation ..
I would just like to say, The Univercity are not providing accommodation for there students and want the City yo cope with it, ermmm I think citizens are getting fed up with the city turning into cambridge/oxford. More accommodation in the Uni Campus, not city, as the council have said "more accommodation for Residents, Not Students term times, better still we have 2 accommodation blocks, Old Rowntrees and Old Terrys, readly built for dormatory accommodation .. Dave Ruddock

3:02pm Tue 17 Dec 13

maybejustmaybe says...

We need more mass student accommodation like this, then the only neighbours they annoy are other students. Although I would stick it in the middle of a field, miles out of town.
We need more mass student accommodation like this, then the only neighbours they annoy are other students. Although I would stick it in the middle of a field, miles out of town. maybejustmaybe

3:12pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Fat Harry says...

The universities are certainly guilty of not providing enought accommodation for all the students they recruit.

This is not a new problem; I'm (nearly) old enough to remember new students sleeping on refectory floors in the late 1960s because there wasn't enough places for them to live, yet here we are 40+ years later, York uni has built Heslington East, and still they don't bother taking responsibility for all of the young people they are sucking in to the city. Yopu'd have thought that in any sane universe councils would insist on sufficient accommodation being provided alongside developments such as Heslington East.

Nor is it an exclusively York problem. Right across the country, universities are gearing up for privatisation by dragging in as many students at as high a price as possible with no thought for make sure they are properly looked after. Scandalously, local counsils are colluding in this by allowing massive developements with insisting enough rooms are provided.

I'm glad to see new residences such as this being provided. Hopefully it'll slow down the rate at which my neighbourhood is becoming a student ghetto. Nothing against students - I just preferred my street when it had a nice mix of a couple of student households. two or three pensioners, three or four young families and a yuppie or two.
The universities are certainly guilty of not providing enought accommodation for all the students they recruit. This is not a new problem; I'm (nearly) old enough to remember new students sleeping on refectory floors in the late 1960s because there wasn't enough places for them to live, yet here we are 40+ years later, York uni has built Heslington East, and still they don't bother taking responsibility for all of the young people they are sucking in to the city. Yopu'd have thought that in any sane universe councils would insist on sufficient accommodation being provided alongside developments such as Heslington East. Nor is it an exclusively York problem. Right across the country, universities are gearing up for privatisation by dragging in as many students at as high a price as possible with no thought for make sure they are properly looked after. Scandalously, local counsils are colluding in this by allowing massive developements with insisting enough rooms are provided. I'm glad to see new residences such as this being provided. Hopefully it'll slow down the rate at which my neighbourhood is becoming a student ghetto. Nothing against students - I just preferred my street when it had a nice mix of a couple of student households. two or three pensioners, three or four young families and a yuppie or two. Fat Harry

3:15pm Tue 17 Dec 13

Fat Harry says...

too many typos to correct them all, but the last sentence of my fourth paragraph should have read:

"Scandalously, local councils are colluding in this by allowing massive developements without insisting enough rooms are provided."
too many typos to correct them all, but the last sentence of my fourth paragraph should have read: "Scandalously, local councils are colluding in this by allowing massive developements without insisting enough rooms are provided." Fat Harry

5:27pm Tue 17 Dec 13

meme says...

A decision on Yorkshire Housing’s £6 million plans had been due last month, but the planning committee deferred it over concerns about play areas being provided and the “sustainability” of the project. QUOTE
its next door to Hob moor a huge open space and a great play area!
it shows how mad the world has become in planning terms
why cannot they just get on and build them and CoYC should be glad of the progress rather than bicker over ridiculous detail
A decision on Yorkshire Housing’s £6 million plans had been due last month, but the planning committee deferred it over concerns about play areas being provided and the “sustainability” of the project. QUOTE its next door to Hob moor a huge open space and a great play area! it shows how mad the world has become in planning terms why cannot they just get on and build them and CoYC should be glad of the progress rather than bicker over ridiculous detail meme

11:04pm Tue 17 Dec 13

smudge2 says...

What a load of old seeing to be doing the right thing in York c**p.When will people see through this.....???
What a load of old seeing to be doing the right thing in York c**p.When will people see through this.....??? smudge2

2:18am Wed 18 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

I think its a decent idea. There's already student accommodation in Lawrence Street, which is served by a bus that is subsidised by the university, and so transport for students would not be an issue (granted the bus service stops at 3pm so the bus can go off for a school service, doesn't return until nearly 5pm) - plus it's halfway between Morrisons and the uni so is ideally placed for student living.

Plus, more students in dedicated housing blocks = less students taking up family homes.
I think its a decent idea. There's already student accommodation in Lawrence Street, which is served by a bus that is subsidised by the university, and so transport for students would not be an issue (granted the bus service stops at 3pm so the bus can go off for a school service, doesn't return until nearly 5pm) - plus it's halfway between Morrisons and the uni so is ideally placed for student living. Plus, more students in dedicated housing blocks = less students taking up family homes. Magicman!

6:56pm Wed 18 Dec 13

mersaultdies says...

Why are several people criticising the University for not providing enough accom. of their own? Have you still not realised what capitalism is, you have been living under it for your entire life? The Uni's central focus (now, not in the past) is to make money. Creating a more sought-after environment for students to attend and expanding the learning space to cater for greater numbers brings in thousands or tens of thousands per year per student. Building and maintaining student housing has a very small margin for profit in comparison.

BTW, my prediction for the ghettoisation of west York continues to be proved right! More affordable housing in Acomb/Holgate. Why don't the plans for Germany Beck and Hungate have a similar percentage of affordable housing? Oh, because they're not in west York, I forgot.
Why are several people criticising the University for not providing enough accom. of their own? Have you still not realised what capitalism is, you have been living under it for your entire life? The Uni's central focus (now, not in the past) is to make money. Creating a more sought-after environment for students to attend and expanding the learning space to cater for greater numbers brings in thousands or tens of thousands per year per student. Building and maintaining student housing has a very small margin for profit in comparison. BTW, my prediction for the ghettoisation of west York continues to be proved right! More affordable housing in Acomb/Holgate. Why don't the plans for Germany Beck and Hungate have a similar percentage of affordable housing? Oh, because they're not in west York, I forgot. mersaultdies

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