New fire station taking shape in Kent Street, York

York Press: Work under way at the new York Fire Station in Kent Street Work under way at the new York Fire Station in Kent Street

THE construction of a new fire station for York is nearing completion.

North Yorkshire Fire & Rescue Service’s station on the site of the former Kent Street coach park, near York Barbican, will replace its old city centre base in Clifford Street next year.

The £2.3 million new complex will have three vehicle bays, a training tower and a fire safety office, as well as a community room available for use by local groups.

Spokeswoman Sarah Woodcock said the Kent Street station should be completed by February and operational by April, after which firefighters will move across from Clifford Street.

A rescue boat will be based in Kent Street, but there will only be one whole-time crewed fire engine, compared with the two engines currently based in Clifford Street.

One of the engines will be transferred to another fire station on the outer ring road, near Huntington.

The relocation met with stiff opposition from conservation groups such as York Civic Trust and York Conservation Trust, and the Fire Brigades Union (FBU) when it was first mooted.

They raised concerns that a reduction in city centre fire cover would put the many medieval timber-framed buildings and their occupants at increased risk if a major blaze broke out.

But fire chiefs dismissed the claims, and said the new arrangements would mean better fire cover for 31,000 residents in communities in the northern part of the city, such as Huntington and Clifton Moor, and would assist in dealing with road accidents.

They also said there would only be a very slight increase in the time taken by firefighters to get to city centre properties.

When North Yorkshire Fire Authority eventually gave the plans the go-ahead, it imposed a series of conditions, including a commitment for officers to review the impact 12 months after completion.

It was also agreed the new station should have three bays, so the second engine could be brought back into the centre if the change was found to have been a mistake.

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9:13am Mon 9 Dec 13

johnwill says...

Great to see a magnificent, architect designed structure taking shape, the steel sheeting really gives the building character. Such a contrast to the City of York's other great buildings and indeed the present Fire Station.
I'd really like to meet a City Planner and a planning committee to find out what makes them tick.
Great to see a magnificent, architect designed structure taking shape, the steel sheeting really gives the building character. Such a contrast to the City of York's other great buildings and indeed the present Fire Station. I'd really like to meet a City Planner and a planning committee to find out what makes them tick. johnwill

9:48am Mon 9 Dec 13

powerwatt says...

johnwill wrote:
Great to see a magnificent, architect designed structure taking shape, the steel sheeting really gives the building character. Such a contrast to the City of York's other great buildings and indeed the present Fire Station.
I'd really like to meet a City Planner and a planning committee to find out what makes them tick.
I prefer the cost effective nature of this building. It is a fire station, practical, paid for by taxpayers and has no need for an opulent building. IF you would like to fund an opulent building, then next time something is getting built why don't you offer to fund it yourself?
[quote][p][bold]johnwill[/bold] wrote: Great to see a magnificent, architect designed structure taking shape, the steel sheeting really gives the building character. Such a contrast to the City of York's other great buildings and indeed the present Fire Station. I'd really like to meet a City Planner and a planning committee to find out what makes them tick.[/p][/quote]I prefer the cost effective nature of this building. It is a fire station, practical, paid for by taxpayers and has no need for an opulent building. IF you would like to fund an opulent building, then next time something is getting built why don't you offer to fund it yourself? powerwatt

10:23am Mon 9 Dec 13

Ignatius Lumpopo says...

Johnwill is right. There was a time when the ambitions of society were reflected in its public architecture. Yeah, well. York gains yet another grim metal shed.

Imaginative design doesn't have to be 'opulent'.
Johnwill is right. There was a time when the ambitions of society were reflected in its public architecture. Yeah, well. York gains yet another grim metal shed. Imaginative design doesn't have to be 'opulent'. Ignatius Lumpopo

12:49pm Mon 9 Dec 13

powerwatt says...

Ignatius Lumpopo wrote:
Johnwill is right. There was a time when the ambitions of society were reflected in its public architecture. Yeah, well. York gains yet another grim metal shed. Imaginative design doesn't have to be 'opulent'.
Basing it on COYC kings square redesign at a cost of £500,000 for £50k worth of works. It does when it is in public sector procurement.

The cost different between a basic design over something different can be very significant. From design to construction the price difference can be vast for minor differences.
[quote][p][bold]Ignatius Lumpopo[/bold] wrote: Johnwill is right. There was a time when the ambitions of society were reflected in its public architecture. Yeah, well. York gains yet another grim metal shed. Imaginative design doesn't have to be 'opulent'.[/p][/quote]Basing it on COYC kings square redesign at a cost of £500,000 for £50k worth of works. It does when it is in public sector procurement. The cost different between a basic design over something different can be very significant. From design to construction the price difference can be vast for minor differences. powerwatt

1:34pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Dave Ruddock says...

Just the one thought, its in th worst possible place, traffic blocking the area 6-0 an 1600 - 1800 hrs , with one way streets and if it needs to get into th city centre it has to go via Cliffod street and Tower street therefore far longer responce times for the centre and north of the city, oh and 3 bays for engines, the old statin had 5 bays................
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Just the one thought, its in th worst possible place, traffic blocking the area 6-0 an 1600 - 1800 hrs , with one way streets and if it needs to get into th city centre it has to go via Cliffod street and Tower street therefore far longer responce times for the centre and north of the city, oh and 3 bays for engines, the old statin had 5 bays................ ................ Dave Ruddock

4:49pm Mon 9 Dec 13

pedalling paul says...

Hands up anyone who knows what a "statin" is.

It's actually a medical pill to reduce chloresterol levels.
Hands up anyone who knows what a "statin" is. It's actually a medical pill to reduce chloresterol levels. pedalling paul

5:48pm Mon 9 Dec 13

johnwill says...

powerwatt wrote:
johnwill wrote:
Great to see a magnificent, architect designed structure taking shape, the steel sheeting really gives the building character. Such a contrast to the City of York's other great buildings and indeed the present Fire Station.
I'd really like to meet a City Planner and a planning committee to find out what makes them tick.
I prefer the cost effective nature of this building. It is a fire station, practical, paid for by taxpayers and has no need for an opulent building. IF you would like to fund an opulent building, then next time something is getting built why don't you offer to fund it yourself?
I think you mean cheap and you are right.
Cheap and Nasty.
[quote][p][bold]powerwatt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]johnwill[/bold] wrote: Great to see a magnificent, architect designed structure taking shape, the steel sheeting really gives the building character. Such a contrast to the City of York's other great buildings and indeed the present Fire Station. I'd really like to meet a City Planner and a planning committee to find out what makes them tick.[/p][/quote]I prefer the cost effective nature of this building. It is a fire station, practical, paid for by taxpayers and has no need for an opulent building. IF you would like to fund an opulent building, then next time something is getting built why don't you offer to fund it yourself?[/p][/quote]I think you mean cheap and you are right. Cheap and Nasty. johnwill

6:31pm Mon 9 Dec 13

brummiebob says...

Dave Ruddock wrote:
Just the one thought, its in th worst possible place, traffic blocking the area 6-0 an 1600 - 1800 hrs , with one way streets and if it needs to get into th city centre it has to go via Cliffod street and Tower street therefore far longer responce times for the centre and north of the city, oh and 3 bays for engines, the old statin had 5 bays................

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Yes I imagine that it would be quicker to run into the city centre with a long hose on race days. Bottle kneck heading towards Skeldergate bridge, bottle kneck towards Layerthorpe.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Ruddock[/bold] wrote: Just the one thought, its in th worst possible place, traffic blocking the area 6-0 an 1600 - 1800 hrs , with one way streets and if it needs to get into th city centre it has to go via Cliffod street and Tower street therefore far longer responce times for the centre and north of the city, oh and 3 bays for engines, the old statin had 5 bays................ ................[/p][/quote]Yes I imagine that it would be quicker to run into the city centre with a long hose on race days. Bottle kneck heading towards Skeldergate bridge, bottle kneck towards Layerthorpe. brummiebob

6:45pm Mon 9 Dec 13

sambo1943 says...

i'm afraid the so called fire chiefs are a set of Idiots if they think there won't be much time difference between an extra pump coming from Huntington rd to the city centre (only about 5 minutes ) not only putting the general public at risk, the unique city centre buildings and also the fire service personnel at risk because some of the fires will have got a good hold before the arrival of the second pump and don't worry yourselves about the cost of the new building because you can bet the council will have sold the Clifford st sight for twice as much as the new one is costing to build (ex fire officer 30 years at York Clifford st )
i'm afraid the so called fire chiefs are a set of Idiots if they think there won't be much time difference between an extra pump coming from Huntington rd to the city centre (only about 5 minutes ) not only putting the general public at risk, the unique city centre buildings and also the fire service personnel at risk because some of the fires will have got a good hold before the arrival of the second pump and don't worry yourselves about the cost of the new building because you can bet the council will have sold the Clifford st sight for twice as much as the new one is costing to build (ex fire officer 30 years at York Clifford st ) sambo1943

7:55pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Woody G Mellor says...

Why care what it looks like for Christi's sake! It is there to serve a purpose. That purpose is not to please your view. And why waste money on some aesthetically pleasing structure stuck between a brick car park and some derelict toilets behind a huge music venue?? Get a grip you moaning gits.
Why care what it looks like for Christi's sake! It is there to serve a purpose. That purpose is not to please your view. And why waste money on some aesthetically pleasing structure stuck between a brick car park and some derelict toilets behind a huge music venue?? Get a grip you moaning gits. Woody G Mellor

8:23pm Mon 9 Dec 13

powerwatt says...

sambo1943 wrote:
i'm afraid the so called fire chiefs are a set of Idiots if they think there won't be much time difference between an extra pump coming from Huntington rd to the city centre (only about 5 minutes ) not only putting the general public at risk, the unique city centre buildings and also the fire service personnel at risk because some of the fires will have got a good hold before the arrival of the second pump and don't worry yourselves about the cost of the new building because you can bet the council will have sold the Clifford st sight for twice as much as the new one is costing to build (ex fire officer 30 years at York Clifford st )
Pretty sure the old site is all owned by NYCC, that site will be worth a pretty penny too. Location and size wise
[quote][p][bold]sambo1943[/bold] wrote: i'm afraid the so called fire chiefs are a set of Idiots if they think there won't be much time difference between an extra pump coming from Huntington rd to the city centre (only about 5 minutes ) not only putting the general public at risk, the unique city centre buildings and also the fire service personnel at risk because some of the fires will have got a good hold before the arrival of the second pump and don't worry yourselves about the cost of the new building because you can bet the council will have sold the Clifford st sight for twice as much as the new one is costing to build (ex fire officer 30 years at York Clifford st )[/p][/quote]Pretty sure the old site is all owned by NYCC, that site will be worth a pretty penny too. Location and size wise powerwatt

8:39pm Mon 9 Dec 13

johnwill says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Why care what it looks like for Christi's sake! It is there to serve a purpose. That purpose is not to please your view. And why waste money on some aesthetically pleasing structure stuck between a brick car park and some derelict toilets behind a huge music venue?? Get a grip you moaning gits.
Because if everyone had your view we would live in depressing town, have you ever visited Washington, Newton Aycliffe, Telford ?
You may well like them, they were cheap and serve a purpose.
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: Why care what it looks like for Christi's sake! It is there to serve a purpose. That purpose is not to please your view. And why waste money on some aesthetically pleasing structure stuck between a brick car park and some derelict toilets behind a huge music venue?? Get a grip you moaning gits.[/p][/quote]Because if everyone had your view we would live in depressing town, have you ever visited Washington, Newton Aycliffe, Telford ? You may well like them, they were cheap and serve a purpose. johnwill

9:29pm Mon 9 Dec 13

Woody G Mellor says...

johnwill wrote:
Woody G Mellor wrote:
Why care what it looks like for Christi's sake! It is there to serve a purpose. That purpose is not to please your view. And why waste money on some aesthetically pleasing structure stuck between a brick car park and some derelict toilets behind a huge music venue?? Get a grip you moaning gits.
Because if everyone had your view we would live in depressing town, have you ever visited Washington, Newton Aycliffe, Telford ?
You may well like them, they were cheap and serve a purpose.
Wrong wrong wrong John. If 'I had my way' everywhere in, and around York would look like the best of York city's beautiful historic streets and buildings. The reality is that we can't have it that way. And FYI I am very well travelled, and I still do. Like I said, get a grip.
[quote][p][bold]johnwill[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: Why care what it looks like for Christi's sake! It is there to serve a purpose. That purpose is not to please your view. And why waste money on some aesthetically pleasing structure stuck between a brick car park and some derelict toilets behind a huge music venue?? Get a grip you moaning gits.[/p][/quote]Because if everyone had your view we would live in depressing town, have you ever visited Washington, Newton Aycliffe, Telford ? You may well like them, they were cheap and serve a purpose.[/p][/quote]Wrong wrong wrong John. If 'I had my way' everywhere in, and around York would look like the best of York city's beautiful historic streets and buildings. The reality is that we can't have it that way. And FYI I am very well travelled, and I still do. Like I said, get a grip. Woody G Mellor

4:25am Tue 10 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

So they're taking away fire cover from Tower Street, which has quick access to central properties, to Kent Street - a place which for most of the afternoon ends up gridlocked due to a tailback of traffic from Fulford Road, and drivers of cars on Fawcett Street not patient enough to allow space for a vehicle to emerge from Kent Street.

Think of how long it will take if a building in Piccadilly or Stonebow catches fire at 5pm. Won't be much left of the building....
So they're taking away fire cover from Tower Street, which has quick access to central properties, to Kent Street - a place which for most of the afternoon ends up gridlocked due to a tailback of traffic from Fulford Road, and drivers of cars on Fawcett Street not patient enough to allow space for a vehicle to emerge from Kent Street. Think of how long it will take if a building in Piccadilly or Stonebow catches fire at 5pm. Won't be much left of the building.... Magicman!

6:59am Tue 10 Dec 13

anth!! says...

Woody G Mellor wrote:
Why care what it looks like for Christi's sake! It is there to serve a purpose. That purpose is not to please your view. And why waste money on some aesthetically pleasing structure stuck between a brick car park and some derelict toilets behind a huge music venue?? Get a grip you moaning gits.
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]Woody G Mellor[/bold] wrote: Why care what it looks like for Christi's sake! It is there to serve a purpose. That purpose is not to please your view. And why waste money on some aesthetically pleasing structure stuck between a brick car park and some derelict toilets behind a huge music venue?? Get a grip you moaning gits.[/p][/quote]Well said. anth!!

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