Shopping hub hope for York’s night-time economy

York Press: Shopping hub hope for York’s night-time economy Shopping hub hope for York’s night-time economy

A CITY-CENTRE shopping centre could become the focus of any plans to boost York’s night-time economy by extending the hours stores stay open.

City of York Council officials have said the city often suffers from a “lull in activity” between people leaving work and pubs, bars and restaurants becoming busy, leading to a group of councillors looking at how this could be addressed, including whether shops would be keen on regularly having later opening times.

An update on its work said the Coppergate Shopping Centre’s management have shown an interest in doing this, having already discussed it with major tenants including Fenwick and Top Shop, and the suggestion will be discussed further at a meeting next week.

However, Piccadilly car park’s 6.30pm closing time is considered a barrier to the centre – which is also set to house a Primark store – lengthening its opening times.

The report said the councillors may investigate whether all council-run car parks which close before 8pm could stay open longer, and the pros and cons of offering free parking after 5pm on late-night shopping evenings.

Representatives from York Retail Forum, the Federation of Small Businesses, the City Team York, bus companies and taxi firms have been invited to attend the forthcoming meeting over longer trading times.

Council officers said the Coppergate Shopping Centre had shown “enthusiasm and positivity” towards extending its hours, having been approached after information from other cities – including Sheffield, Oxford, Bath, Chester and Norwich – showed later shopping times had only worked in city-centre areas where there were “clusters” of businesses.

They said York was doing as well as, or better than, similar cities in terms of the number of shops staying open beyond 5pm, but the task group could study how other retailers can be encouraged to do this.

York Retail Forum chairman Frank Wood said: “Extending trading hours has been suggested before, but has been difficult to get off the ground. If it does, it’s self-generating, but it’s hard to start. Other cities have more national chains opening late, but York has a lot of independent traders and it is a huge expense for them to extend their hours if they are not seeing the benefit from it.”

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9:26am Wed 4 Dec 13

roskoboskovic says...

why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.
why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you. roskoboskovic

9:40am Wed 4 Dec 13

tobefair says...

What's this? CYC encouraging motorists into the city centre. I don't believe it.
What's this? CYC encouraging motorists into the city centre. I don't believe it. tobefair

9:40am Wed 4 Dec 13

Garrowby Turnoff says...

Great idea in a tourist city!

One of the delights of a continental holiday are the sensible opening times of the shops. As well as evening shopping, there's Sunday shopping (tut tut for the 'Godless' Johnny Foreigner) until late in many countries. Why is England so opposite the rest of Europe when it comes to opening shops when it suits the customer? Hey ho!
Great idea in a tourist city! One of the delights of a continental holiday are the sensible opening times of the shops. As well as evening shopping, there's Sunday shopping (tut tut for the 'Godless' Johnny Foreigner) until late in many countries. Why is England so opposite the rest of Europe when it comes to opening shops when it suits the customer? Hey ho! Garrowby Turnoff

9:47am Wed 4 Dec 13

powerwatt says...

roskoboskovic wrote:
why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.
Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks.
[quote][p][bold]roskoboskovic[/bold] wrote: why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.[/p][/quote]Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks. powerwatt

10:18am Wed 4 Dec 13

magicadey says...

powerwatt wrote:
roskoboskovic wrote:
why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.
Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks.
6pm
[quote][p][bold]powerwatt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roskoboskovic[/bold] wrote: why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.[/p][/quote]Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks.[/p][/quote]6pm magicadey

10:31am Wed 4 Dec 13

BL2 says...

powerwatt wrote:
roskoboskovic wrote:
why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.
Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks.
Which ones are these then? The only ones I've ever used (the Castle car park was the last one) charge everyone!
[quote][p][bold]powerwatt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roskoboskovic[/bold] wrote: why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.[/p][/quote]Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks.[/p][/quote]Which ones are these then? The only ones I've ever used (the Castle car park was the last one) charge everyone! BL2

10:33am Wed 4 Dec 13

asd says...

Is this new policy, more vehicles into York? I thought they where detering vehicles. whats the diffference in vehicles emmissions at 10:30 am - 5pm compaired to 6pm till 10 pm. I wonder if the staff will be on minium wage if they work from 6pm onwards and how many people on here, would work them hours on minium wage, my guess is very few. Well at least people would be able to use Lendall Bridge to shop then haa haa.
Is this new policy, more vehicles into York? I thought they where detering vehicles. whats the diffference in vehicles emmissions at 10:30 am - 5pm compaired to 6pm till 10 pm. I wonder if the staff will be on minium wage if they work from 6pm onwards and how many people on here, would work them hours on minium wage, my guess is very few. Well at least people would be able to use Lendall Bridge to shop then haa haa. asd

10:37am Wed 4 Dec 13

bolero says...

It's a bit late isn't it? Coppergate is hardly what you could call a shopping centre.That is the whole trouble with York; there isn't a central hub of shopping. Coppergate is too far away from the bigger shops. There's a whole area bounded by Coney Street, High Ousegate, Parliament Street and St. Helens Square just begging for redevelopment. This could provide a central hub together with car parking, toilets and all the facilities that any forward looking city would be keen to do but unfortunately York is blighted by conservationists who are content to live in the past and watch the decline of what should be a thriving city catering not just for tourists but locals as well. Other cities with historical backgrounds have managed it.
It's a bit late isn't it? Coppergate is hardly what you could call a shopping centre.That is the whole trouble with York; there isn't a central hub of shopping. Coppergate is too far away from the bigger shops. There's a whole area bounded by Coney Street, High Ousegate, Parliament Street and St. Helens Square just begging for redevelopment. This could provide a central hub together with car parking, toilets and all the facilities that any forward looking city would be keen to do but unfortunately York is blighted by conservationists who are content to live in the past and watch the decline of what should be a thriving city catering not just for tourists but locals as well. Other cities with historical backgrounds have managed it. bolero

10:46am Wed 4 Dec 13

electricwarrior says...

How can you say Coppergate is too far away, ridiculous.
How can you say Coppergate is too far away, ridiculous. electricwarrior

10:54am Wed 4 Dec 13

Tom6187 says...

Stop writing positive comments about this, the council will be listening and they'll put a stop to it if it's something that the residents actually want.
Stop writing positive comments about this, the council will be listening and they'll put a stop to it if it's something that the residents actually want. Tom6187

11:34am Wed 4 Dec 13

Platform9 says...

Its going to need a massive rethink of the traffic plans - York is gridlocked already between 4:30pm and 7:00pm with people leaving work - imagine what it's going to be like with extra traffic trying to get into town at this time?
Its going to need a massive rethink of the traffic plans - York is gridlocked already between 4:30pm and 7:00pm with people leaving work - imagine what it's going to be like with extra traffic trying to get into town at this time? Platform9

11:37am Wed 4 Dec 13

bolero says...

electricwarrior wrote:
How can you say Coppergate is too far away, ridiculous.
How dare you pass an opinion?
[quote][p][bold]electricwarrior[/bold] wrote: How can you say Coppergate is too far away, ridiculous.[/p][/quote]How dare you pass an opinion? bolero

11:55am Wed 4 Dec 13

piaggio1 says...

Why is ENGLAND so opposite the rest of europe.???.
Thats a hard one.
Er we the englisc are.nt European. ( well if you vo back 900/1000years we unfortunately were )
Why is ENGLAND so opposite the rest of europe.???. Thats a hard one. Er we the englisc are.nt European. ( well if you vo back 900/1000years we unfortunately were ) piaggio1

12:18pm Wed 4 Dec 13

electricwarrior says...

bolero wrote:
electricwarrior wrote:
How can you say Coppergate is too far away, ridiculous.
How dare you pass an opinion?
Isn't that the idea!
[quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]electricwarrior[/bold] wrote: How can you say Coppergate is too far away, ridiculous.[/p][/quote]How dare you pass an opinion?[/p][/quote]Isn't that the idea! electricwarrior

1:34pm Wed 4 Dec 13

powerwatt says...

BL2 wrote:
powerwatt wrote:
roskoboskovic wrote: why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.
Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks.
Which ones are these then? The only ones I've ever used (the Castle car park was the last one) charge everyone!
Well castle for one is free for residents.

for many years
[quote][p][bold]BL2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]powerwatt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roskoboskovic[/bold] wrote: why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.[/p][/quote]Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks.[/p][/quote]Which ones are these then? The only ones I've ever used (the Castle car park was the last one) charge everyone![/p][/quote]Well castle for one is free for residents. for many years powerwatt

1:57pm Wed 4 Dec 13

YorkPatrol says...

Platform9 wrote:
Its going to need a massive rethink of the traffic plans - York is gridlocked already between 4:30pm and 7:00pm with people leaving work - imagine what it's going to be like with extra traffic trying to get into town at this time?
Re-opening Lendal Bridge would be a start
[quote][p][bold]Platform9[/bold] wrote: Its going to need a massive rethink of the traffic plans - York is gridlocked already between 4:30pm and 7:00pm with people leaving work - imagine what it's going to be like with extra traffic trying to get into town at this time?[/p][/quote]Re-opening Lendal Bridge would be a start YorkPatrol

3:51pm Wed 4 Dec 13

bolero says...

electricwarrior wrote:
bolero wrote:
electricwarrior wrote: How can you say Coppergate is too far away, ridiculous.
How dare you pass an opinion?
Isn't that the idea!
Well I thought so.
[quote][p][bold]electricwarrior[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bolero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]electricwarrior[/bold] wrote: How can you say Coppergate is too far away, ridiculous.[/p][/quote]How dare you pass an opinion?[/p][/quote]Isn't that the idea![/p][/quote]Well I thought so. bolero

4:42pm Wed 4 Dec 13

meme says...

Great idea at last from our esteemed leaders
York needs retail and leisure open at night and it should be encouraged. wandering around our city in the dark or at dusk is fantastic. Even more so if shops are open...Bring it on sooner rather than later and give all of us who work outside of the centre another reason to go in at night
Great idea at last from our esteemed leaders York needs retail and leisure open at night and it should be encouraged. wandering around our city in the dark or at dusk is fantastic. Even more so if shops are open...Bring it on sooner rather than later and give all of us who work outside of the centre another reason to go in at night meme

5:16pm Wed 4 Dec 13

mersaultdies says...

Great idea...so can I ask why some places have thriving Xmas markets in the evening and York's markets (including Festive Fayre) can't wait to close when dusk hits...
Great idea...so can I ask why some places have thriving Xmas markets in the evening and York's markets (including Festive Fayre) can't wait to close when dusk hits... mersaultdies

6:10pm Wed 4 Dec 13

anth!! says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
Platform9 wrote:
Its going to need a massive rethink of the traffic plans - York is gridlocked already between 4:30pm and 7:00pm with people leaving work - imagine what it's going to be like with extra traffic trying to get into town at this time?
Re-opening Lendal Bridge would be a start
Thats original.
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Platform9[/bold] wrote: Its going to need a massive rethink of the traffic plans - York is gridlocked already between 4:30pm and 7:00pm with people leaving work - imagine what it's going to be like with extra traffic trying to get into town at this time?[/p][/quote]Re-opening Lendal Bridge would be a start[/p][/quote]Thats original. anth!!

7:59pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Alexandra_1 says...

I work in a shop in York and I would literally hate to have to stay open past 6pm. It's a ridiculous idea, poor shop workers get paid next to nothing as it is, so making them stay past dusk is just cruel. People should get a grip. Shops are open plenty enough time ALL week, including Sundays and Boxing Day. In my opinion, people who shop on boxing day are absolute morons who genuinely need to get a life. This country needs to get a grip and take a leaf out of European countries books and not open on a Sunday. Where's family time?! A job is not, or SHOULD NOT take over a persons life. We are an extremely popular shop and even on the run up to Christmas, we barely make enough money to warrant keeping the store open past six, and surely a shop being open 9 or 10 hours a day should be enough time for people to spend their money?!
I work in a shop in York and I would literally hate to have to stay open past 6pm. It's a ridiculous idea, poor shop workers get paid next to nothing as it is, so making them stay past dusk is just cruel. People should get a grip. Shops are open plenty enough time ALL week, including Sundays and Boxing Day. In my opinion, people who shop on boxing day are absolute morons who genuinely need to get a life. This country needs to get a grip and take a leaf out of European countries books and not open on a Sunday. Where's family time?! A job is not, or SHOULD NOT take over a persons life. We are an extremely popular shop and even on the run up to Christmas, we barely make enough money to warrant keeping the store open past six, and surely a shop being open 9 or 10 hours a day should be enough time for people to spend their money?! Alexandra_1

8:51pm Wed 4 Dec 13

eeoodares says...

asd wrote:
Is this new policy, more vehicles into York? I thought they where detering vehicles. whats the diffference in vehicles emmissions at 10:30 am - 5pm compaired to 6pm till 10 pm. I wonder if the staff will be on minium wage if they work from 6pm onwards and how many people on here, would work them hours on minium wage, my guess is very few. Well at least people would be able to use Lendall Bridge to shop then haa haa.
I would and have worked minimum wage on these hours. It stands to reason, if you are on minimum wage the more hours you work the better.
[quote][p][bold]asd[/bold] wrote: Is this new policy, more vehicles into York? I thought they where detering vehicles. whats the diffference in vehicles emmissions at 10:30 am - 5pm compaired to 6pm till 10 pm. I wonder if the staff will be on minium wage if they work from 6pm onwards and how many people on here, would work them hours on minium wage, my guess is very few. Well at least people would be able to use Lendall Bridge to shop then haa haa.[/p][/quote]I would and have worked minimum wage on these hours. It stands to reason, if you are on minimum wage the more hours you work the better. eeoodares

9:47pm Wed 4 Dec 13

Alexandra_1 says...

eeoodares wrote:
asd wrote:
Is this new policy, more vehicles into York? I thought they where detering vehicles. whats the diffference in vehicles emmissions at 10:30 am - 5pm compaired to 6pm till 10 pm. I wonder if the staff will be on minium wage if they work from 6pm onwards and how many people on here, would work them hours on minium wage, my guess is very few. Well at least people would be able to use Lendall Bridge to shop then haa haa.
I would and have worked minimum wage on these hours. It stands to reason, if you are on minimum wage the more hours you work the better.
Eeoodares, absoloute rubbish. People who work in shops are paid a low wage, barely a livable wage by any means. Why the heck should they be expected to work past 6pm on it?! Everyone is entitled to a life outside of work, why condemn someone to a life made up of work alone just in case you MIGHT happen to fancy popping along to the shops after 6pm once a month, or once every few months. Don't be so ridculous. And of course these hours would include late night weekend work, goodbye social life. I'd have thought after you having worked on minimum wage for these hours you'd have more sympathy. As you are probably aware, most people probably DO NOT actually wish to work for minimum wage for long hours, however they do not have a choice, why make their life any harder? Oh and while you're at it, why not open Christmas Day too?! You know, make up those hours, just incase anyone NEEDS to shop on that day too.
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asd[/bold] wrote: Is this new policy, more vehicles into York? I thought they where detering vehicles. whats the diffference in vehicles emmissions at 10:30 am - 5pm compaired to 6pm till 10 pm. I wonder if the staff will be on minium wage if they work from 6pm onwards and how many people on here, would work them hours on minium wage, my guess is very few. Well at least people would be able to use Lendall Bridge to shop then haa haa.[/p][/quote]I would and have worked minimum wage on these hours. It stands to reason, if you are on minimum wage the more hours you work the better.[/p][/quote]Eeoodares, absoloute rubbish. People who work in shops are paid a low wage, barely a livable wage by any means. Why the heck should they be expected to work past 6pm on it?! Everyone is entitled to a life outside of work, why condemn someone to a life made up of work alone just in case you MIGHT happen to fancy popping along to the shops after 6pm once a month, or once every few months. Don't be so ridculous. And of course these hours would include late night weekend work, goodbye social life. I'd have thought after you having worked on minimum wage for these hours you'd have more sympathy. As you are probably aware, most people probably DO NOT actually wish to work for minimum wage for long hours, however they do not have a choice, why make their life any harder? Oh and while you're at it, why not open Christmas Day too?! You know, make up those hours, just incase anyone NEEDS to shop on that day too. Alexandra_1

10:06pm Wed 4 Dec 13

soprano 2 says...

Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
Great idea in a tourist city!

One of the delights of a continental holiday are the sensible opening times of the shops. As well as evening shopping, there's Sunday shopping (tut tut for the 'Godless' Johnny Foreigner) until late in many countries. Why is England so opposite the rest of Europe when it comes to opening shops when it suits the customer? Hey ho!
Very little Sunday opening in France - and most shops close at 7.00pm
[quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: Great idea in a tourist city! One of the delights of a continental holiday are the sensible opening times of the shops. As well as evening shopping, there's Sunday shopping (tut tut for the 'Godless' Johnny Foreigner) until late in many countries. Why is England so opposite the rest of Europe when it comes to opening shops when it suits the customer? Hey ho![/p][/quote]Very little Sunday opening in France - and most shops close at 7.00pm soprano 2

1:14am Thu 5 Dec 13

eeoodares says...

Alexandra_1 wrote:
I work in a shop in York and I would literally hate to have to stay open past 6pm. It's a ridiculous idea, poor shop workers get paid next to nothing as it is, so making them stay past dusk is just cruel. People should get a grip. Shops are open plenty enough time ALL week, including Sundays and Boxing Day. In my opinion, people who shop on boxing day are absolute morons who genuinely need to get a life. This country needs to get a grip and take a leaf out of European countries books and not open on a Sunday. Where's family time?! A job is not, or SHOULD NOT take over a persons life. We are an extremely popular shop and even on the run up to Christmas, we barely make enough money to warrant keeping the store open past six, and surely a shop being open 9 or 10 hours a day should be enough time for people to spend their money?!
It is not compulsory! if you are not making money through the ordinary working day, do not stay open late!!
[quote][p][bold]Alexandra_1[/bold] wrote: I work in a shop in York and I would literally hate to have to stay open past 6pm. It's a ridiculous idea, poor shop workers get paid next to nothing as it is, so making them stay past dusk is just cruel. People should get a grip. Shops are open plenty enough time ALL week, including Sundays and Boxing Day. In my opinion, people who shop on boxing day are absolute morons who genuinely need to get a life. This country needs to get a grip and take a leaf out of European countries books and not open on a Sunday. Where's family time?! A job is not, or SHOULD NOT take over a persons life. We are an extremely popular shop and even on the run up to Christmas, we barely make enough money to warrant keeping the store open past six, and surely a shop being open 9 or 10 hours a day should be enough time for people to spend their money?![/p][/quote]It is not compulsory! if you are not making money through the ordinary working day, do not stay open late!! eeoodares

1:27am Thu 5 Dec 13

eeoodares says...

Alexandra_1 wrote:
eeoodares wrote:
asd wrote:
Is this new policy, more vehicles into York? I thought they where detering vehicles. whats the diffference in vehicles emmissions at 10:30 am - 5pm compaired to 6pm till 10 pm. I wonder if the staff will be on minium wage if they work from 6pm onwards and how many people on here, would work them hours on minium wage, my guess is very few. Well at least people would be able to use Lendall Bridge to shop then haa haa.
I would and have worked minimum wage on these hours. It stands to reason, if you are on minimum wage the more hours you work the better.
Eeoodares, absoloute rubbish. People who work in shops are paid a low wage, barely a livable wage by any means. Why the heck should they be expected to work past 6pm on it?! Everyone is entitled to a life outside of work, why condemn someone to a life made up of work alone just in case you MIGHT happen to fancy popping along to the shops after 6pm once a month, or once every few months. Don't be so ridculous. And of course these hours would include late night weekend work, goodbye social life. I'd have thought after you having worked on minimum wage for these hours you'd have more sympathy. As you are probably aware, most people probably DO NOT actually wish to work for minimum wage for long hours, however they do not have a choice, why make their life any harder? Oh and while you're at it, why not open Christmas Day too?! You know, make up those hours, just incase anyone NEEDS to shop on that day too.
I think you misunderstood, I am not claiming that I loved working all hours, I did it through necessity. If I could have worked a 25hour day I would!

I wanted the money, in fact to be fair I needed the money! I was happy to work any hours, and yes I have worked Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Years Day and I was blooming glad of the money!

I see you like to capitalise your letters so I will do like wise. IF YOU ARE SKINT AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE ON BENEFITS AND ARE WILLING TO WORK LONG HOURS TO GET THE STUFF YOU WANT THEN WHY NOT?

If you are worried about your social life, then I think you are on the wrong thread. You do not have to work the hours, you can not be forced, it is an opportunity to earn.

As far as opening hours, I still work all hours and if I could shop late I would!
[quote][p][bold]Alexandra_1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]asd[/bold] wrote: Is this new policy, more vehicles into York? I thought they where detering vehicles. whats the diffference in vehicles emmissions at 10:30 am - 5pm compaired to 6pm till 10 pm. I wonder if the staff will be on minium wage if they work from 6pm onwards and how many people on here, would work them hours on minium wage, my guess is very few. Well at least people would be able to use Lendall Bridge to shop then haa haa.[/p][/quote]I would and have worked minimum wage on these hours. It stands to reason, if you are on minimum wage the more hours you work the better.[/p][/quote]Eeoodares, absoloute rubbish. People who work in shops are paid a low wage, barely a livable wage by any means. Why the heck should they be expected to work past 6pm on it?! Everyone is entitled to a life outside of work, why condemn someone to a life made up of work alone just in case you MIGHT happen to fancy popping along to the shops after 6pm once a month, or once every few months. Don't be so ridculous. And of course these hours would include late night weekend work, goodbye social life. I'd have thought after you having worked on minimum wage for these hours you'd have more sympathy. As you are probably aware, most people probably DO NOT actually wish to work for minimum wage for long hours, however they do not have a choice, why make their life any harder? Oh and while you're at it, why not open Christmas Day too?! You know, make up those hours, just incase anyone NEEDS to shop on that day too.[/p][/quote]I think you misunderstood, I am not claiming that I loved working all hours, I did it through necessity. If I could have worked a 25hour day I would! I wanted the money, in fact to be fair I needed the money! I was happy to work any hours, and yes I have worked Christmas Day, Boxing Day and New Years Day and I was blooming glad of the money! I see you like to capitalise your letters so I will do like wise. IF YOU ARE SKINT AND YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE ON BENEFITS AND ARE WILLING TO WORK LONG HOURS TO GET THE STUFF YOU WANT THEN WHY NOT? If you are worried about your social life, then I think you are on the wrong thread. You do not have to work the hours, you can not be forced, it is an opportunity to earn. As far as opening hours, I still work all hours and if I could shop late I would! eeoodares

1:46am Thu 5 Dec 13

eeoodares says...

Alexandra_1

You have actually really wound me up! When you are having your 'SOCIAL LIFE' who do you think is serving you late at night, are they on £30K? when you go to a hotel and see the 'GUY' at breakfast and then again at lunch and dinner and on the night behind the bar....is he working for love or because he needs the hours? do you tip...no? because you are on minimum wage?

When, on Christmas day, you flip a switch and the lights come on, your phone works and water comes out of the tap is it a miracle or is it because people are working, not just engineers but the support staff? Watching TV? is it magic or are people making it work for you? I seriously suggest that you grow up and realise that some people WANT TO WORK!

IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO WORK LONG HOURS FOR PANTS PAY, GET ANOTHER JOB!
Alexandra_1 You have actually really wound me up! When you are having your 'SOCIAL LIFE' who do you think is serving you late at night, are they on £30K? when you go to a hotel and see the 'GUY' at breakfast and then again at lunch and dinner and on the night behind the bar....is he working for love or because he needs the hours? do you tip...no? because you are on minimum wage? When, on Christmas day, you flip a switch and the lights come on, your phone works and water comes out of the tap is it a miracle or is it because people are working, not just engineers but the support staff? Watching TV? is it magic or are people making it work for you? I seriously suggest that you grow up and realise that some people WANT TO WORK! IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO WORK LONG HOURS FOR PANTS PAY, GET ANOTHER JOB! eeoodares

2:24am Thu 5 Dec 13

Magicman! says...

Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
Great idea in a tourist city!

One of the delights of a continental holiday are the sensible opening times of the shops. As well as evening shopping, there's Sunday shopping (tut tut for the 'Godless' Johnny Foreigner) until late in many countries. Why is England so opposite the rest of Europe when it comes to opening shops when it suits the customer? Hey ho!
Indeed... but I still think York should have a convered shopping centre in the centre of the city so that people can escape the rain.

As for sunday hours... no matter how often I go over it in my head, I cannot for the like of it get around why big shops open at 10am or 10.30am - they are not allowed to put cash throgh the registers until 11am but can only legally stay open for 6 hours on a sunday. So what do they do? open at 10am for a "browsing hour" whereby saddo's who got up at the sparrows' f@rt just to look around a big shop can look but not buy - the shop staff are being paid for an entire hour and yet no profits are made because they cannot open the tills until 11am... yet just when more people are starting to show up, at 4pm, they lock the doors!! Utter utter lunacy.
In the past a fair while ago I have even had a fat bloke at Asda physically block me from going in at 3.55pm for a single pre-made pizza which I was going to pay for through the self-serve machine... He even showed me his clock which said 4pm after I showed him mine (which was correct as it automatically synchronises every morning) - so much for "the customer is always right", maybe there is small print along the lines of 'except when I'm in a hurry to get home and eat all the pies' or something. Needless to say I went across to the Tesco Express on Huntington Road and gave them my custom instead... the fact the car park was full and waiting vehicles were overflowing onto Huntington Road and the opposite side street would suggest that staying open a little bit later IS beneficial. Maybe instead of opening at stupid-o-clock whgen they cannot take any cash, they instead open at Noon and give their staff a lie-in so the shop can take cash from the moment the doors are unlocked, and then close at 6pm just as people are thinking about going home and getting a meal.
[quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: Great idea in a tourist city! One of the delights of a continental holiday are the sensible opening times of the shops. As well as evening shopping, there's Sunday shopping (tut tut for the 'Godless' Johnny Foreigner) until late in many countries. Why is England so opposite the rest of Europe when it comes to opening shops when it suits the customer? Hey ho![/p][/quote]Indeed... but I still think York should have a convered shopping centre in the centre of the city so that people can escape the rain. As for sunday hours... no matter how often I go over it in my head, I cannot for the like of it get around why big shops open at 10am or 10.30am - they are not allowed to put cash throgh the registers until 11am but can only legally stay open for 6 hours on a sunday. So what do they do? open at 10am for a "browsing hour" whereby saddo's who got up at the sparrows' f@rt just to look around a big shop can look but not buy - the shop staff are being paid for an entire hour and yet no profits are made because they cannot open the tills until 11am... yet just when more people are starting to show up, at 4pm, they lock the doors!! Utter utter lunacy. In the past a fair while ago I have even had a fat bloke at Asda physically block me from going in at 3.55pm for a single pre-made pizza which I was going to pay for through the self-serve machine... He even showed me his clock which said 4pm after I showed him mine (which was correct as it automatically synchronises every morning) - so much for "the customer is always right", maybe there is small print along the lines of 'except when I'm in a hurry to get home and eat all the pies' or something. Needless to say I went across to the Tesco Express on Huntington Road and gave them my custom instead... the fact the car park was full and waiting vehicles were overflowing onto Huntington Road and the opposite side street would suggest that staying open a little bit later IS beneficial. Maybe instead of opening at stupid-o-clock whgen they cannot take any cash, they instead open at Noon and give their staff a lie-in so the shop can take cash from the moment the doors are unlocked, and then close at 6pm just as people are thinking about going home and getting a meal. Magicman!

11:26am Thu 5 Dec 13

Jonthan says...

YorkPatrol wrote:
Platform9 wrote:
Its going to need a massive rethink of the traffic plans - York is gridlocked already between 4:30pm and 7:00pm with people leaving work - imagine what it's going to be like with extra traffic trying to get into town at this time?
Re-opening Lendal Bridge would be a start
Lendal Bridge will be open. It reopens at 5pm
[quote][p][bold]YorkPatrol[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Platform9[/bold] wrote: Its going to need a massive rethink of the traffic plans - York is gridlocked already between 4:30pm and 7:00pm with people leaving work - imagine what it's going to be like with extra traffic trying to get into town at this time?[/p][/quote]Re-opening Lendal Bridge would be a start[/p][/quote]Lendal Bridge will be open. It reopens at 5pm Jonthan

6:09pm Thu 5 Dec 13

Alexandra_1 says...

eeoodares wrote:
Alexandra_1

You have actually really wound me up! When you are having your 'SOCIAL LIFE' who do you think is serving you late at night, are they on £30K? when you go to a hotel and see the 'GUY' at breakfast and then again at lunch and dinner and on the night behind the bar....is he working for love or because he needs the hours? do you tip...no? because you are on minimum wage?

When, on Christmas day, you flip a switch and the lights come on, your phone works and water comes out of the tap is it a miracle or is it because people are working, not just engineers but the support staff? Watching TV? is it magic or are people making it work for you? I seriously suggest that you grow up and realise that some people WANT TO WORK!

IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO WORK LONG HOURS FOR PANTS PAY, GET ANOTHER JOB!
No, but when you take on jobs in restaurants, bars and hotels, you know what you are signing up for. I didn't say it was nice, but you take on that job knowing you'll have to work **** hours, I myself have worked in bars when at university, even though it was fun most of the time, I knew what I was getting myself into. Also, many bars pay their staff extra after a certain time, due to it being unsociable hours of work. Working in a shop, you expect to be able to go home at a reasonable time and I know many of my colleagues would hate working past 6pm and the majority of them really enjoy working for the company. I actually do want to work but not til 7 or 8pm every night of the week, or later. York is not London or Manchester and simply would not make enough money to warrant being open silly hours. I really actually do enjoy my job, I'm just saying I personally think it's a crappy idea to be open past 6pm. I'm not an idiot, so i'd appreciate if you stopped speaking to me as if I were. I know that all these things do not happen by magic, but that is not the point of this thread. I just think there should be more time for families and down time. And of course it's optional, for the store and the store manager, but not for the other staff members who probably have very little choice in what they work and when they work. Life if not about work, life is not just about money, of course it does help but for me, life is for family and for enjoying and for friends, if I make enough money to survive then I am happy, any more is a blessing but I am not going to choose to see less of my family and friends for an extra few quid a day, I'm sorry, but to me it's just not worth it. I haven't meant to offend you or rile you up, it's merely my opinions. And FYI, I tip when I receive good service, minimum wage or not, which is more than I ever get ;)
[quote][p][bold]eeoodares[/bold] wrote: Alexandra_1 You have actually really wound me up! When you are having your 'SOCIAL LIFE' who do you think is serving you late at night, are they on £30K? when you go to a hotel and see the 'GUY' at breakfast and then again at lunch and dinner and on the night behind the bar....is he working for love or because he needs the hours? do you tip...no? because you are on minimum wage? When, on Christmas day, you flip a switch and the lights come on, your phone works and water comes out of the tap is it a miracle or is it because people are working, not just engineers but the support staff? Watching TV? is it magic or are people making it work for you? I seriously suggest that you grow up and realise that some people WANT TO WORK! IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO WORK LONG HOURS FOR PANTS PAY, GET ANOTHER JOB![/p][/quote]No, but when you take on jobs in restaurants, bars and hotels, you know what you are signing up for. I didn't say it was nice, but you take on that job knowing you'll have to work **** hours, I myself have worked in bars when at university, even though it was fun most of the time, I knew what I was getting myself into. Also, many bars pay their staff extra after a certain time, due to it being unsociable hours of work. Working in a shop, you expect to be able to go home at a reasonable time and I know many of my colleagues would hate working past 6pm and the majority of them really enjoy working for the company. I actually do want to work but not til 7 or 8pm every night of the week, or later. York is not London or Manchester and simply would not make enough money to warrant being open silly hours. I really actually do enjoy my job, I'm just saying I personally think it's a crappy idea to be open past 6pm. I'm not an idiot, so i'd appreciate if you stopped speaking to me as if I were. I know that all these things do not happen by magic, but that is not the point of this thread. I just think there should be more time for families and down time. And of course it's optional, for the store and the store manager, but not for the other staff members who probably have very little choice in what they work and when they work. Life if not about work, life is not just about money, of course it does help but for me, life is for family and for enjoying and for friends, if I make enough money to survive then I am happy, any more is a blessing but I am not going to choose to see less of my family and friends for an extra few quid a day, I'm sorry, but to me it's just not worth it. I haven't meant to offend you or rile you up, it's merely my opinions. And FYI, I tip when I receive good service, minimum wage or not, which is more than I ever get ;) Alexandra_1

12:02am Fri 6 Dec 13

Loollah says...

Magicman! wrote:
Garrowby Turnoff wrote:
Great idea in a tourist city!

One of the delights of a continental holiday are the sensible opening times of the shops. As well as evening shopping, there's Sunday shopping (tut tut for the 'Godless' Johnny Foreigner) until late in many countries. Why is England so opposite the rest of Europe when it comes to opening shops when it suits the customer? Hey ho!
Indeed... but I still think York should have a convered shopping centre in the centre of the city so that people can escape the rain.

As for sunday hours... no matter how often I go over it in my head, I cannot for the like of it get around why big shops open at 10am or 10.30am - they are not allowed to put cash throgh the registers until 11am but can only legally stay open for 6 hours on a sunday. So what do they do? open at 10am for a "browsing hour" whereby saddo's who got up at the sparrows' f@rt just to look around a big shop can look but not buy - the shop staff are being paid for an entire hour and yet no profits are made because they cannot open the tills until 11am... yet just when more people are starting to show up, at 4pm, they lock the doors!! Utter utter lunacy.
In the past a fair while ago I have even had a fat bloke at Asda physically block me from going in at 3.55pm for a single pre-made pizza which I was going to pay for through the self-serve machine... He even showed me his clock which said 4pm after I showed him mine (which was correct as it automatically synchronises every morning) - so much for "the customer is always right", maybe there is small print along the lines of 'except when I'm in a hurry to get home and eat all the pies' or something. Needless to say I went across to the Tesco Express on Huntington Road and gave them my custom instead... the fact the car park was full and waiting vehicles were overflowing onto Huntington Road and the opposite side street would suggest that staying open a little bit later IS beneficial. Maybe instead of opening at stupid-o-clock whgen they cannot take any cash, they instead open at Noon and give their staff a lie-in so the shop can take cash from the moment the doors are unlocked, and then close at 6pm just as people are thinking about going home and getting a meal.
Supermarkets in Northern Ireland have the right idea with Sunday trading. They open at noon and close at 6pm! Whilst they do it to allow people (including employees) to go to church in the morning, it is a whole lot more convenient for everyone!
[quote][p][bold]Magicman![/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Garrowby Turnoff[/bold] wrote: Great idea in a tourist city! One of the delights of a continental holiday are the sensible opening times of the shops. As well as evening shopping, there's Sunday shopping (tut tut for the 'Godless' Johnny Foreigner) until late in many countries. Why is England so opposite the rest of Europe when it comes to opening shops when it suits the customer? Hey ho![/p][/quote]Indeed... but I still think York should have a convered shopping centre in the centre of the city so that people can escape the rain. As for sunday hours... no matter how often I go over it in my head, I cannot for the like of it get around why big shops open at 10am or 10.30am - they are not allowed to put cash throgh the registers until 11am but can only legally stay open for 6 hours on a sunday. So what do they do? open at 10am for a "browsing hour" whereby saddo's who got up at the sparrows' f@rt just to look around a big shop can look but not buy - the shop staff are being paid for an entire hour and yet no profits are made because they cannot open the tills until 11am... yet just when more people are starting to show up, at 4pm, they lock the doors!! Utter utter lunacy. In the past a fair while ago I have even had a fat bloke at Asda physically block me from going in at 3.55pm for a single pre-made pizza which I was going to pay for through the self-serve machine... He even showed me his clock which said 4pm after I showed him mine (which was correct as it automatically synchronises every morning) - so much for "the customer is always right", maybe there is small print along the lines of 'except when I'm in a hurry to get home and eat all the pies' or something. Needless to say I went across to the Tesco Express on Huntington Road and gave them my custom instead... the fact the car park was full and waiting vehicles were overflowing onto Huntington Road and the opposite side street would suggest that staying open a little bit later IS beneficial. Maybe instead of opening at stupid-o-clock whgen they cannot take any cash, they instead open at Noon and give their staff a lie-in so the shop can take cash from the moment the doors are unlocked, and then close at 6pm just as people are thinking about going home and getting a meal.[/p][/quote]Supermarkets in Northern Ireland have the right idea with Sunday trading. They open at noon and close at 6pm! Whilst they do it to allow people (including employees) to go to church in the morning, it is a whole lot more convenient for everyone! Loollah

12:01am Tue 10 Dec 13

Older Sometimes Wiser says...

powerwatt wrote:
roskoboskovic wrote:
why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.
Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks.
Free York resident parking after 6pm not 7 in all council car parks.
[quote][p][bold]powerwatt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roskoboskovic[/bold] wrote: why are there any cons for free late night parking.motorists hate being ripped off for parking and if ycc aren t willing to play the game shoppers will go elsewhere especially at this time of year.where are you mr sinclair,i can t hear you.[/p][/quote]Well they already do free York resident parking after 7PM in all council car parks.[/p][/quote]Free York resident parking after 6pm not 7 in all council car parks. Older Sometimes Wiser

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