Lendal Bridge closure ‘good for York’

Paul Smith

Paul Smith

First published in News by

A TRAVEL agent from York is backing the closure of the city’s Lendal Bridge, claiming it will be appealing for tourists wanting to walk around the city at leisure.

The six-month trial closure will begin in August and City of York Council say it will reduce pollution and make journeys quicker.

Quartz Travel, in Heworth Road, is backing the council initiative.

Paul Smith, director and owner of the company, said: “Our chauffeur-driven transport service is in high demand, with many visitors to York using our luxury saloons and minibuses to enjoy the city.

“One comment we often get is that the pedestrian area in the centre of York makes a visit so easy and pleasurable, but wouldn’t it be great if that area could be extended to other parts.”

The Press previously reported that despite city centre congestion having already fallen, councillors believe that the closure of the bridge, close to York station, will cut this down even further.

However, there has also been widespread criticism of the closure, with many people claiming that it will lengthen their journey to work, ultimately increasing traffic pollution.

Liberal Democrat group leader Keith Aspden said closing the bridge would “significantly” increase traffic elsewhere.

Under the Freedom of Information Act, York’s Lib Dems found that the closure of the bridge would mean more than 300 cars would be using Clifton Bridge every hour.

Mr Smith believes that there is no need for traffic congestion elsewhere though.

He said: “People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion.

“I cycle to work and we have just bought bikes for the rest of our team so they can cut down their mileage.”

Visit York is also backing the initiative. Chief executive Gillian Cruddas said: “One of Visit York’s key aims is to increase visits to York by train for example and to encourage visitors to make more use of the Park & Ride services. Less traffic congestion is appealing to both visitors and residents and makes for a more pleasant experience.”

Mrs Cruddas went on to say she hoped the trial period would help the council find a solution which benefits everyone. The bridge will be closed for cars and motorbikes but will remain open for public transport.

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7:53am Mon 1 Jul 13

AnotherPointofView says...

The headline should read "Good for York ... tourists". Well they will get stuck in the queues elsewhere.

Whilst tourism brings a lot of money to York, the more important point is that York should be good for those who live here all year round. This scheme is doesn't do that.
The headline should read "Good for York ... tourists". Well they will get stuck in the queues elsewhere. Whilst tourism brings a lot of money to York, the more important point is that York should be good for those who live here all year round. This scheme is doesn't do that. AnotherPointofView
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7:55am Mon 1 Jul 13

level-headed says...

Ok.... so his motives are purely financial. Next!

(P.S. his staff could do with those bikes, but they'll need to do some serious pedalling to work off their regular fish & chip intake from the neighbouring outlet!)
Ok.... so his motives are purely financial. Next! (P.S. his staff could do with those bikes, but they'll need to do some serious pedalling to work off their regular fish & chip intake from the neighbouring outlet!) level-headed
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8:04am Mon 1 Jul 13

DifficultTim says...

'People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion.'

I expect business is really good at Quartz Travel of Heworth Road. It's the owner's open-minded good humour and charm that makes the difference.
'People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion.' I expect business is really good at Quartz Travel of Heworth Road. It's the owner's open-minded good humour and charm that makes the difference. DifficultTim
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8:12am Mon 1 Jul 13

level-headed says...

DifficultTim wrote:
'People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion.'

I expect business is really good at Quartz Travel of Heworth Road. It's the owner's open-minded good humour and charm that makes the difference.
Hahaha...well said!

And maybe those who currently hire his 'chauffeur service' could use public transport or walk too?
[quote][p][bold]DifficultTim[/bold] wrote: 'People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion.' I expect business is really good at Quartz Travel of Heworth Road. It's the owner's open-minded good humour and charm that makes the difference.[/p][/quote]Hahaha...well said! And maybe those who currently hire his 'chauffeur service' could use public transport or walk too? level-headed
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8:24am Mon 1 Jul 13

MrsHoney says...

What a cheeky ***!! Just because he wants to cycle to work doesn't mean everyone else does. Rejecting cycling isn't just down to being lazy there are plenty other reasons for not wanting (or being able) to cycle. I agree with level-headed, his customers should start walking/bussing rather than use his chauffeur service! I bet he doesn't tell them they're lazy!

Once again residents are passed over for the good of tourists, perhaps they'd like to start paying our council tax seeing as they always come first!
What a cheeky ***!! Just because he wants to cycle to work doesn't mean everyone else does. Rejecting cycling isn't just down to being lazy there are plenty other reasons for not wanting (or being able) to cycle. I agree with level-headed, his customers should start walking/bussing rather than use his chauffeur service! I bet he doesn't tell them they're lazy! Once again residents are passed over for the good of tourists, perhaps they'd like to start paying our council tax seeing as they always come first! MrsHoney
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8:25am Mon 1 Jul 13

nearlyman says...

.........Is that DifficultTim from the Quartz PR department ?
.........Is that DifficultTim from the Quartz PR department ? nearlyman
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8:30am Mon 1 Jul 13

DifficultTim says...

level-headed wrote:
DifficultTim wrote:
'People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion.'

I expect business is really good at Quartz Travel of Heworth Road. It's the owner's open-minded good humour and charm that makes the difference.
Hahaha...well said!

And maybe those who currently hire his 'chauffeur service' could use public transport or walk too?
Well, quite. York may be a tourist commodity to Mr Smith, but it is also a real working city. Tourism is a vital part of the mix (not least for me - my job is dependent upon it), but York is a real place, not a theme park.

Mr Smith's views are determined by self-interest and a very narrow view of what York is all about, and cannot be regarded as a worthwhile contribution to the Lendal Bridge closure debate. If it can be regarded as a debate, given that the Council's mind is clearly made up already.
[quote][p][bold]level-headed[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]DifficultTim[/bold] wrote: 'People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion.' I expect business is really good at Quartz Travel of Heworth Road. It's the owner's open-minded good humour and charm that makes the difference.[/p][/quote]Hahaha...well said! And maybe those who currently hire his 'chauffeur service' could use public transport or walk too?[/p][/quote]Well, quite. York may be a tourist commodity to Mr Smith, but it is also a real working city. Tourism is a vital part of the mix (not least for me - my job is dependent upon it), but York is a real place, not a theme park. Mr Smith's views are determined by self-interest and a very narrow view of what York is all about, and cannot be regarded as a worthwhile contribution to the Lendal Bridge closure debate. If it can be regarded as a debate, given that the Council's mind is clearly made up already. DifficultTim
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8:33am Mon 1 Jul 13

DifficultTim says...

nearlyman wrote:
.........Is that DifficultTim from the Quartz PR department ?
No, he didn't offer me the job. Can you believe that?
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: .........Is that DifficultTim from the Quartz PR department ?[/p][/quote]No, he didn't offer me the job. Can you believe that? DifficultTim
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8:43am Mon 1 Jul 13

Black Douglas says...

Whilst I am in favour of the trial closure and the promotion of public transport and alternatives to driving I do think Mr. Smith is missing something. The bridge will not be pedestrianised during the trial closure period, it will be open to buses, and there will be a large number of those crossing the bridge.

I would like to see the pedestrian zone expanded in terms of hours of operation and number of streets covered though. It would be good to pedestrianise the upper half of Micklegate, the traffic would still be able to travel along the inner ring road and down George Hudson Street and it might help revitalise the area. It does really need a good tidy up!
Whilst I am in favour of the trial closure and the promotion of public transport and alternatives to driving I do think Mr. Smith is missing something. The bridge will not be pedestrianised during the trial closure period, it will be open to buses, and there will be a large number of those crossing the bridge. I would like to see the pedestrian zone expanded in terms of hours of operation and number of streets covered though. It would be good to pedestrianise the upper half of Micklegate, the traffic would still be able to travel along the inner ring road and down George Hudson Street and it might help revitalise the area. It does really need a good tidy up! Black Douglas
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8:53am Mon 1 Jul 13

yorkandproud says...

Mr smith seems to have become the spokesman, and the face of travel and tourism in York. He is often championed by The Press and Visit York. He gets free advertising for his company time and time again, whilst the opinions of local people who use the roads of York day in, day out, are never sought. Best to ignore the biased and self centred opinions of this man, in my opinion.
Mr smith seems to have become the spokesman, and the face of travel and tourism in York. He is often championed by The Press and Visit York. He gets free advertising for his company time and time again, whilst the opinions of local people who use the roads of York day in, day out, are never sought. Best to ignore the biased and self centred opinions of this man, in my opinion. yorkandproud
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9:07am Mon 1 Jul 13

Yorkshire B says...

Well said Mr Smith. Good points made. I work and live in Clifton, we will be affected most in terms of traffic but it's a plan that will boost economy in York in the long term. It's about making the most of what we've got and promoting our city, whilst also getting people onto bikes and improving our public transport. Some people always moan! I don't think I'm in a minority, I just think those who oppose it chunter louder then most.
Well said Mr Smith. Good points made. I work and live in Clifton, we will be affected most in terms of traffic but it's a plan that will boost economy in York in the long term. It's about making the most of what we've got and promoting our city, whilst also getting people onto bikes and improving our public transport. Some people always moan! I don't think I'm in a minority, I just think those who oppose it chunter louder then most. Yorkshire B
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9:07am Mon 1 Jul 13

Ichabod76 says...

Why do people keep calling it Public Transport ?
surely its commercial transport for the profit of a third party?
Why do people keep calling it Public Transport ? surely its commercial transport for the profit of a third party? Ichabod76
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9:09am Mon 1 Jul 13

Woody G Mellor says...

Well done Mr Smith. Now watch your business profits plummet as York residents avoid your travel agency like the plague.

Selfish idiot.
Well done Mr Smith. Now watch your business profits plummet as York residents avoid your travel agency like the plague. Selfish idiot. Woody G Mellor
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9:21am Mon 1 Jul 13

localeye66 says...

"Bravo Mr Smith, yet again another way of obtaining free publicity!!
Lazy he states....no comment!
Pay for your own advertising instead of using other underhanded methods to get your shop in the paper!
Skinflint springs to mind. I do not think he cares less about the bridge, just his current business ethics.
He would go to the grand opening of an envelope if it would help his business. Pure Cheeky!!
"Bravo Mr Smith, yet again another way of obtaining free publicity!! Lazy he states....no comment! Pay for your own advertising instead of using other underhanded methods to get your shop in the paper! Skinflint springs to mind. I do not think he cares less about the bridge, just his current business ethics. He would go to the grand opening of an envelope if it would help his business. Pure Cheeky!! localeye66
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9:28am Mon 1 Jul 13

punkpixie says...

People should use public transport or walk to work?
Nice idea but that just isn't a viable option for everyone. Apart from the raising costs of bus fares not everyone's route to work or school run or a combination of both matches up to that of the transport system. Some people might literally not have the time to use public transport. If I want to get to the other side of York I would have to get two buses. Add a school run into that scenario, add the available bus routes, bus times and locations of school/workplace and it might literally be impossible to get to work on time without using your own transport.
Other routes are going to get even busier, for example, as pointed out Clifton Bridge, which is already gridlocked with traffic at peak times.
Closing Lendal Bridge is a ridiculous idea.
I think it is about time the council remember there are thousands of residents living in this city who need to be thought of and not just thinking of the tourist trade!
People should use public transport or walk to work? Nice idea but that just isn't a viable option for everyone. Apart from the raising costs of bus fares not everyone's route to work or school run or a combination of both matches up to that of the transport system. Some people might literally not have the time to use public transport. If I want to get to the other side of York I would have to get two buses. Add a school run into that scenario, add the available bus routes, bus times and locations of school/workplace and it might literally be impossible to get to work on time without using your own transport. Other routes are going to get even busier, for example, as pointed out Clifton Bridge, which is already gridlocked with traffic at peak times. Closing Lendal Bridge is a ridiculous idea. I think it is about time the council remember there are thousands of residents living in this city who need to be thought of and not just thinking of the tourist trade! punkpixie
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10:15am Mon 1 Jul 13

Guy Fawkes says...

He said: “People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion.


So the electrician who needs a vanload of tools and supplies at his customer's premises should just put them in a rucksack and cycle, or the GP on his rounds who needs to cover ten patients in one morning, all separated by 2-3 miles, should take up jogging? Pure laziness...
[quote]He said: “People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion. [/quote] So the electrician who needs a vanload of tools and supplies at his customer's premises should just put them in a rucksack and cycle, or the GP on his rounds who needs to cover ten patients in one morning, all separated by 2-3 miles, should take up jogging? Pure laziness... Guy Fawkes
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10:16am Mon 1 Jul 13

Buzzz Light-year says...

I give this thread till lunchtime.
I give this thread till lunchtime. Buzzz Light-year
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10:23am Mon 1 Jul 13

Ichabod76 says...

Buzzz Light-year wrote:
I give this thread till lunchtime.
I think that's very generous of you ;)
[quote][p][bold]Buzzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: I give this thread till lunchtime.[/p][/quote]I think that's very generous of you ;) Ichabod76
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10:26am Mon 1 Jul 13

strangebuttrue? says...

I wonder if the press felt they had to print something for balance or were persuaded into this by pressure from the council or minority campaigners. I mean it is a blatant self publicising exercise which seems to have backfired due to the rather clumsy comments made by Paul Smith. They must have caught him off guard, who in their right mind running a travel business in York would say York people are lazy?

Paul Smith says “One comment we often get is that the pedestrian area in the centre of York makes a visit so easy and pleasurable, but wouldn’t it be great if that area could be extended to other parts.” How would those same visitors feel if we decided that cars should be banned from their city just in case we may one day choose to visit?
I wonder if the press felt they had to print something for balance or were persuaded into this by pressure from the council or minority campaigners. I mean it is a blatant self publicising exercise which seems to have backfired due to the rather clumsy comments made by Paul Smith. They must have caught him off guard, who in their right mind running a travel business in York would say York people are lazy? Paul Smith says “One comment we often get is that the pedestrian area in the centre of York makes a visit so easy and pleasurable, but wouldn’t it be great if that area could be extended to other parts.” How would those same visitors feel if we decided that cars should be banned from their city just in case we may one day choose to visit? strangebuttrue?
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10:31am Mon 1 Jul 13

Madasanibbotson says...

headline should read

" Quartz Travel talk nonsense to get a free plug in the Press again"
headline should read " Quartz Travel talk nonsense to get a free plug in the Press again" Madasanibbotson
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10:33am Mon 1 Jul 13

The Legend Of Keith says...

Why do the Press allow this obvious free advertising?

Hannah Bryan... hang your head.
Why do the Press allow this obvious free advertising? Hannah Bryan... hang your head. The Legend Of Keith
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10:36am Mon 1 Jul 13

localeye66 says...

Madasanibbotson wrote:
headline should read " Quartz Travel talk nonsense to get a free plug in the Press again"
As I mentioned before Mr Smith would go to the opening of a packet of crisps to get some free advertising. I am supprised he hasn't got anyone walking the streets with a sandwich board before now :-)
[quote][p][bold]Madasanibbotson[/bold] wrote: headline should read " Quartz Travel talk nonsense to get a free plug in the Press again"[/p][/quote]As I mentioned before Mr Smith would go to the opening of a packet of crisps to get some free advertising. I am supprised he hasn't got anyone walking the streets with a sandwich board before now :-) localeye66
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10:41am Mon 1 Jul 13

Madasanibbotson says...

Lets all start phoning Quartz Travel to get a quote for a bike transfer to Manchester Airport. Blocking his phone lines should concentrate his mind.

No doubt his pals at the Press will delete this comment.
Lets all start phoning Quartz Travel to get a quote for a bike transfer to Manchester Airport. Blocking his phone lines should concentrate his mind. No doubt his pals at the Press will delete this comment. Madasanibbotson
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10:44am Mon 1 Jul 13

Madasanibbotson says...

Should we all start phoning Quartz for a quote for bike transfers to Manchester Airport.


Do his "Chauffer Transfers" use vehicles that cause pollution ?

Guess his pals at the press will delete this.
Should we all start phoning Quartz for a quote for bike transfers to Manchester Airport. Do his "Chauffer Transfers" use vehicles that cause pollution ? Guess his pals at the press will delete this. Madasanibbotson
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10:58am Mon 1 Jul 13

meme says...

This is NOT a trial closure...The council have sold duncombe Place with a deal that keeps the bridge closed for the new owners and benefits the hotel
Anyone who believes otherwise is seriously deluded
This is NOT a trial closure...The council have sold duncombe Place with a deal that keeps the bridge closed for the new owners and benefits the hotel Anyone who believes otherwise is seriously deluded meme
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11:32am Mon 1 Jul 13

PKH says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
Why do people keep calling it Public Transport ?
surely its commercial transport for the profit of a third party?
Well said Thatcher/Major did away with Public Transport turning it into Private Profit Transport where the customer is a necessary irritation to providers in their quest to make as much profit as possible.
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep calling it Public Transport ? surely its commercial transport for the profit of a third party?[/p][/quote]Well said Thatcher/Major did away with Public Transport turning it into Private Profit Transport where the customer is a necessary irritation to providers in their quest to make as much profit as possible. PKH
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11:33am Mon 1 Jul 13

dasreich1943 says...

“People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion". Ha ha, what an absolute t*t; so once I've walked to work in Osbaldwick I then have to walk to Copmanthorpe or perhaps Elvington to visit one of my customers as I do on a daily basis? Why do people assume that everyone driving to work has an easy and cheaper alternative, or doesn't need their car to go about company business?
“People should use the facilities of public transport or walk to work. It is laziness in my opinion". Ha ha, what an absolute t*t; so once I've walked to work in Osbaldwick I then have to walk to Copmanthorpe or perhaps Elvington to visit one of my customers as I do on a daily basis? Why do people assume that everyone driving to work has an easy and cheaper alternative, or doesn't need their car to go about company business? dasreich1943
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11:51am Mon 1 Jul 13

beechgrover says...

Nice advertorial, Paul. I wish all York businesses could get free publicity like this, or was it paid for?

Sadly, I will not be crossing Lendal bridge in a chauffeur-driven vehicle. So I will be watching my back for fast-moving buses, taxis and bicycles as I walk along the crowded (as usual) pavement.

It is good to know that someone is interested in making it appealing for tourists to walk around the city at leisure. Perhaps Paul could let the folks at NRM know about this, so they can make the walk along Leeman road as appealing as across Lendal Bridge!
Nice advertorial, Paul. I wish all York businesses could get free publicity like this, or was it paid for? Sadly, I will not be crossing Lendal bridge in a chauffeur-driven vehicle. So I will be watching my back for fast-moving buses, taxis and bicycles as I walk along the crowded (as usual) pavement. It is good to know that someone is interested in making it appealing for tourists to walk around the city at leisure. Perhaps Paul could let the folks at NRM know about this, so they can make the walk along Leeman road as appealing as across Lendal Bridge! beechgrover
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11:55am Mon 1 Jul 13

themanwhogrinnedhimselftodeath says...

Lendal Bridge closing is absolutely ridiculous. I predict that it will be re-opened before the end of the six month trial.

The two most congested parts of York are Clifton Green and the junction of Bootham/Gillygate. Closing Lendal Bridge will add to the congestion in these places.

Paul Smith says people are lazy and should be cycling . . . what nonsense, what about people with small children, the disabled or the elderly?

As for tourists, I know they bring money into the city, but for once why can't the council think about the taxpayers who actually live here?

This closure will cause traffic mayhem all over the city. Total madness.
Lendal Bridge closing is absolutely ridiculous. I predict that it will be re-opened before the end of the six month trial. The two most congested parts of York are Clifton Green and the junction of Bootham/Gillygate. Closing Lendal Bridge will add to the congestion in these places. Paul Smith says people are lazy and should be cycling . . . what nonsense, what about people with small children, the disabled or the elderly? As for tourists, I know they bring money into the city, but for once why can't the council think about the taxpayers who actually live here? This closure will cause traffic mayhem all over the city. Total madness. themanwhogrinnedhimselftodeath
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12:06pm Mon 1 Jul 13

matroom says...

The mans a baffoon !!! Pure and simple !!!
The mans a baffoon !!! Pure and simple !!! matroom
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12:10pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Guy Fawkes says...

They must have caught him off guard, who in their right mind running a travel business in York would say York people are lazy?


He certainly earns a nomination for the Michael O'Leary award for public diplomacy in the transport industry...
[quote] They must have caught him off guard, who in their right mind running a travel business in York would say York people are lazy?[/quote] He certainly earns a nomination for the Michael O'Leary award for public diplomacy in the transport industry... Guy Fawkes
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12:43pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Matt_RSJ says...

This story disgusts me on numerous levels.

"City of York Council say it will reduce pollution and make journeys quicker."

How? By moving the traffic elsewhere? You take the traffic and pollution from A and move it to B. A gets better, B gets worse. That pathetic logic could only be made up in somewhere like York!!

"Our chauffeur-driven transport service is in high demand, with many visitors to York using our luxury saloons and minibuses to enjoy the city."

Mint. That's great to hear. Does that mean that Quartz Travel will offer the city's drivers free, unlimited travel during the closure. NO OF COURSE NOT.

"One comment we often get is that the pedestrian area in the centre of York makes a visit so easy and pleasurable..."

I went into town a few weeks ago on a Saturday for the first in over a year. After paying £4 for parking, I was then subjected to the stress of not being able to get everything I needed done in town due to tourists clogging up the pavements and dawdling in front of landmarks. And people are surprised that Monks Cross is a preferred shopping choice?!

I think the answers are under your nose CoYC. Let's hear your comments on this? You want the residents of the city to have some faith in you? We're patiently waiting...

And for those asking when CoYC will take the needs of the residents over the needs of the tourists - I believe this will be on Nonday the 32nd of Never.
This story disgusts me on numerous levels. "City of York Council say it will reduce pollution and make journeys quicker." How? By moving the traffic elsewhere? You take the traffic and pollution from A and move it to B. A gets better, B gets worse. That pathetic logic could only be made up in somewhere like York!! "Our chauffeur-driven transport service is in high demand, with many visitors to York using our luxury saloons and minibuses to enjoy the city." Mint. That's great to hear. Does that mean that Quartz Travel will offer the city's drivers free, unlimited travel during the closure. NO OF COURSE NOT. "One comment we often get is that the pedestrian area in the centre of York makes a visit so easy and pleasurable..." I went into town a few weeks ago on a Saturday for the first in over a year. After paying £4 for parking, I was then subjected to the stress of not being able to get everything I needed done in town due to tourists clogging up the pavements and dawdling in front of landmarks. And people are surprised that Monks Cross is a preferred shopping choice?! I think the answers are under your nose CoYC. Let's hear your comments on this? You want the residents of the city to have some faith in you? We're patiently waiting... And for those asking when CoYC will take the needs of the residents over the needs of the tourists - I believe this will be on Nonday the 32nd of Never. Matt_RSJ
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1:25pm Mon 1 Jul 13

WhyEver says...

The council only claims some bus journeys will be faster (but has no idea how many passengers will switch). For other modes, even they admit allow "an extra 10-15 minutes for your journey."

If the council was serious about finding the best solution, they would promise to publish traffic levels, journey times and pollution levels across York before and during the trial. Without this data, they will be able to claim anything they like.
The council only claims some bus journeys will be faster (but has no idea how many passengers will switch). For other modes, even they admit allow "an extra 10-15 minutes for your journey." If the council was serious about finding the best solution, they would promise to publish traffic levels, journey times and pollution levels across York before and during the trial. Without this data, they will be able to claim anything they like. WhyEver
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1:36pm Mon 1 Jul 13

bloodaxe says...

matroom wrote:
The mans a baffoon !!! Pure and simple !!!
What is a "baffoon" ? Pure and simple or impure and complex.
[quote][p][bold]matroom[/bold] wrote: The mans a baffoon !!! Pure and simple !!![/p][/quote]What is a "baffoon" ? Pure and simple or impure and complex. bloodaxe
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2:20pm Mon 1 Jul 13

mmarshal says...

nearlyman wrote:
.........Is that DifficultTim from the Quartz PR department ?
No, it's Time Nice But Dim from the Harry Enfield department.
[quote][p][bold]nearlyman[/bold] wrote: .........Is that DifficultTim from the Quartz PR department ?[/p][/quote]No, it's Time Nice But Dim from the Harry Enfield department. mmarshal
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2:35pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Exiled1 says...

How about inviting Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear to York. They can do one of those races. Quickest from Clifton to The Racecourse, Clarkson in a car and Hammond in a tortoise outfit crawling the route. Would be a close thing.
How about inviting Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear to York. They can do one of those races. Quickest from Clifton to The Racecourse, Clarkson in a car and Hammond in a tortoise outfit crawling the route. Would be a close thing. Exiled1
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3:08pm Mon 1 Jul 13

MrsHoney says...

Exiled1 wrote:
How about inviting Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear to York. They can do one of those races. Quickest from Clifton to The Racecourse, Clarkson in a car and Hammond in a tortoise outfit crawling the route. Would be a close thing.
I've always thought York would be a prime location for them, plenty to moan about here!!
[quote][p][bold]Exiled1[/bold] wrote: How about inviting Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear to York. They can do one of those races. Quickest from Clifton to The Racecourse, Clarkson in a car and Hammond in a tortoise outfit crawling the route. Would be a close thing.[/p][/quote]I've always thought York would be a prime location for them, plenty to moan about here!! MrsHoney
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4:00pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Maquis says...

People who are opposed to this closure usually state the elderly or the disabled as the ones who need to use private vehicles, but what about the likes of me, I run a business which needs stock carrying from place to place.
I regularly travel from site to site, or to the wholesalers. I have a van load which could not possibly fit onto any bike or onto a bus, and my destination is often far away from any public transport.
Due to opening times, I have no option but to travel from the center of town, and this closure will mean adding miles onto the journey, and the condensing of traffic onto these routes will cause unknown delays, costing me time and money, and believe me as a self employed worker, I have precious little of either to spare.
I use my private vehicle not because I am lazy, or elderly or disabled, but simply because I need to and there is no other choice.
People who are opposed to this closure usually state the elderly or the disabled as the ones who need to use private vehicles, but what about the likes of me, I run a business which needs stock carrying from place to place. I regularly travel from site to site, or to the wholesalers. I have a van load which could not possibly fit onto any bike or onto a bus, and my destination is often far away from any public transport. Due to opening times, I have no option but to travel from the center of town, and this closure will mean adding miles onto the journey, and the condensing of traffic onto these routes will cause unknown delays, costing me time and money, and believe me as a self employed worker, I have precious little of either to spare. I use my private vehicle not because I am lazy, or elderly or disabled, but simply because I need to and there is no other choice. Maquis
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4:27pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Madasanibbotson says...

Maquis
I totally understand your need to use the bridge and your not using it will waste your time and create more pollution by having to go the long way.
The likes of Jimmy Alexander, Simply-Laing, no-merrett and the publicity seeking Smith don't have a clue, they have one thing in common and that's self promotion. Smith has put his business on the map as one not to use and the other three manage show their lack of ability on an almost daily basis.

Quartz Ad

York Citizens
Lets drive you in a petrol guzzling car to manchester airport, you can sit back and relax in the air-condition lounge, board your pollution causing aircraft to the Maldives, use lots of plastic that the locals can't dispose of and then repeat your journey home. Yes we are a "green" business, well one of our staff uses a bike on days when it isn't raining.

Paul Smith aka Gerard Ratner
Maquis I totally understand your need to use the bridge and your not using it will waste your time and create more pollution by having to go the long way. The likes of Jimmy Alexander, Simply-Laing, no-merrett and the publicity seeking Smith don't have a clue, they have one thing in common and that's self promotion. Smith has put his business on the map as one not to use and the other three manage show their lack of ability on an almost daily basis. Quartz Ad York Citizens Lets drive you in a petrol guzzling car to manchester airport, you can sit back and relax in the air-condition lounge, board your pollution causing aircraft to the Maldives, use lots of plastic that the locals can't dispose of and then repeat your journey home. Yes we are a "green" business, well one of our staff uses a bike on days when it isn't raining. Paul Smith aka Gerard Ratner Madasanibbotson
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4:33pm Mon 1 Jul 13

ilikechocolate says...

had thought about booking next holiday with his agency but no way now after his comments. I have to use a car as I work shifts and buses times no good, am not lazy cannot pedal or walk due to knee and ankle problems as I am getting on in years.
had thought about booking next holiday with his agency but no way now after his comments. I have to use a car as I work shifts and buses times no good, am not lazy cannot pedal or walk due to knee and ankle problems as I am getting on in years. ilikechocolate
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4:41pm Mon 1 Jul 13

yorkguy says...

Quick question! is the A1036 inner ring road to be diverted via clifton bridge?

Also the signed route to the railway station is from Malton road via lendal bridge will this all now be signed up to clifton bridge and then cutting down past us on Leeman road? would be nice to know!
Quick question! is the A1036 inner ring road to be diverted via clifton bridge? Also the signed route to the railway station is from Malton road via lendal bridge will this all now be signed up to clifton bridge and then cutting down past us on Leeman road? would be nice to know! yorkguy
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4:45pm Mon 1 Jul 13

beechgrover says...

Self promotion turns out to be more effective than I thought, but not in a good way...
Self promotion turns out to be more effective than I thought, but not in a good way... beechgrover
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5:04pm Mon 1 Jul 13

pedalling paul says...

Maquis wrote:
People who are opposed to this closure usually state the elderly or the disabled as the ones who need to use private vehicles, but what about the likes of me, I run a business which needs stock carrying from place to place.
I regularly travel from site to site, or to the wholesalers. I have a van load which could not possibly fit onto any bike or onto a bus, and my destination is often far away from any public transport.
Due to opening times, I have no option but to travel from the center of town, and this closure will mean adding miles onto the journey, and the condensing of traffic onto these routes will cause unknown delays, costing me time and money, and believe me as a self employed worker, I have precious little of either to spare.
I use my private vehicle not because I am lazy, or elderly or disabled, but simply because I need to and there is no other choice.
Anyone aware of any proposed relaxations for blue badge holders? If exempted, their drivers would surely have a much easier journey over the bridge than is the case today.
Other commentators claim the Clifton Green is still heavily congested. I thought that JA had waved a magic wand over it by bringing the LH filter lane back!
[quote][p][bold]Maquis[/bold] wrote: People who are opposed to this closure usually state the elderly or the disabled as the ones who need to use private vehicles, but what about the likes of me, I run a business which needs stock carrying from place to place. I regularly travel from site to site, or to the wholesalers. I have a van load which could not possibly fit onto any bike or onto a bus, and my destination is often far away from any public transport. Due to opening times, I have no option but to travel from the center of town, and this closure will mean adding miles onto the journey, and the condensing of traffic onto these routes will cause unknown delays, costing me time and money, and believe me as a self employed worker, I have precious little of either to spare. I use my private vehicle not because I am lazy, or elderly or disabled, but simply because I need to and there is no other choice.[/p][/quote]Anyone aware of any proposed relaxations for blue badge holders? If exempted, their drivers would surely have a much easier journey over the bridge than is the case today. Other commentators claim the Clifton Green is still heavily congested. I thought that JA had waved a magic wand over it by bringing the LH filter lane back! pedalling paul
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5:07pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Woody G Mellor says...

ilikechocolate wrote:
had thought about booking next holiday with his agency but no way now after his comments. I have to use a car as I work shifts and buses times no good, am not lazy cannot pedal or walk due to knee and ankle problems as I am getting on in years.
I swear I was considering booking with them also.

Not now no way after he publicly insults York residents.

Also, he charges £100 just to arrange to meet him! But he hides it in with your booking fee, only if you book! Otherwise, £100 down the drain.
[quote][p][bold]ilikechocolate[/bold] wrote: had thought about booking next holiday with his agency but no way now after his comments. I have to use a car as I work shifts and buses times no good, am not lazy cannot pedal or walk due to knee and ankle problems as I am getting on in years.[/p][/quote]I swear I was considering booking with them also. Not now no way after he publicly insults York residents. Also, he charges £100 just to arrange to meet him! But he hides it in with your booking fee, only if you book! Otherwise, £100 down the drain. Woody G Mellor
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5:19pm Mon 1 Jul 13

WhyEver says...

"any proposed relaxations for blue badge holders?"

No, the restrictions are only by vehicle type, with no exemptions - which seems fair enough.

I'm surprised there has been no comment from the Royal Mail depot just round the corner about banning their delivery vans - maybe they're waiting to use it as an excuse to close it down?
"any proposed relaxations for blue badge holders?" No, the restrictions are only by vehicle type, with no exemptions - which seems fair enough. I'm surprised there has been no comment from the Royal Mail depot just round the corner about banning their delivery vans - maybe they're waiting to use it as an excuse to close it down? WhyEver
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5:19pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Guy Fawkes says...

How about inviting Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear to York. They can do one of those races. Quickest from Clifton to The Racecourse, Clarkson in a car and Hammond in a tortoise outfit crawling the route. Would be a close thing.


And The Stig in that tourist train thing, racing Pedalling Paul?

And given that Clarkson called Gordon Brown a one-eyed Scottish idiot, I'd love to know how he'd describe Alexander...
[quote]How about inviting Jeremy Clarkson and Top Gear to York. They can do one of those races. Quickest from Clifton to The Racecourse, Clarkson in a car and Hammond in a tortoise outfit crawling the route. Would be a close thing.[/quote] And The Stig in that tourist train thing, racing Pedalling Paul? And given that Clarkson called Gordon Brown a one-eyed Scottish idiot, I'd love to know how he'd describe Alexander... Guy Fawkes
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5:26pm Mon 1 Jul 13

matroom says...

Its the new gerrard ratner, hopefully he'll go bust and all he'll be able to do is use his ruddy bike !!!
Its the new gerrard ratner, hopefully he'll go bust and all he'll be able to do is use his ruddy bike !!! matroom
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5:30pm Mon 1 Jul 13

trailblazer says...

yet again the press showing bias towards the council and its supporters residents ignored free publicity for a buisness can his taxis use the bridge during closure time
yet again the press showing bias towards the council and its supporters residents ignored free publicity for a buisness can his taxis use the bridge during closure time trailblazer
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5:35pm Mon 1 Jul 13

WhyEver says...

yorkguy wrote:
Quick question! is the A1036 inner ring road to be diverted via clifton bridge?

Also the signed route to the railway station is from Malton road via lendal bridge will this all now be signed up to clifton bridge and then cutting down past us on Leeman road? would be nice to know!
Good question! In the other direction there are lots of signs to the Hospital which will need changing. How about the Press finding out what the plans are?
[quote][p][bold]yorkguy[/bold] wrote: Quick question! is the A1036 inner ring road to be diverted via clifton bridge? Also the signed route to the railway station is from Malton road via lendal bridge will this all now be signed up to clifton bridge and then cutting down past us on Leeman road? would be nice to know![/p][/quote]Good question! In the other direction there are lots of signs to the Hospital which will need changing. How about the Press finding out what the plans are? WhyEver
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5:46pm Mon 1 Jul 13

RoseD says...

Not only are there no exemptions for Blue Badge holders (thus my surety i'll be forced to go to court), but What happens to those Fab and Wonderful Tourists who blunder down Gillygate and find they cant turn right? What happens to those pesky blue badgers who manage to enter the city and leave via Lendal. Do we still turn left? What happens when ppl react to all the (free? who pays for these?) Detour signs and bail at Lord Mayors Walk or better yet Lowther so i never ever get my car moved ever again? ALL the rest of the city will be awash in displaced cars. People cannot always just blithley switch to bikes.

It is madness to close part of the Inner Ring Road. Hey Merrett and Alexander! Close the Ousegate Bridge if youre so desperate to leave your 'mark' on a city that will be well rid of you both. Of the 3 bridges our city is BUILT ON, thats the least used one since no one can drive past Coppergate unless they're an unaffordable taxi or an uncertain, route-limited bus. If you have only THREE paths over the rivers why not leave open the one next to the railroad station?
Not only are there no exemptions for Blue Badge holders (thus my surety i'll be forced to go to court), but What happens to those Fab and Wonderful Tourists who blunder down Gillygate and find they cant turn right? What happens to those pesky blue badgers who manage to enter the city and leave via Lendal. Do we still turn left? What happens when ppl react to all the (free? who pays for these?) Detour signs and bail at Lord Mayors Walk or better yet Lowther so i never ever get my car moved ever again? ALL the rest of the city will be awash in displaced cars. People cannot always just blithley switch to bikes. It is madness to close part of the Inner Ring Road. Hey Merrett and Alexander! Close the Ousegate Bridge if youre so desperate to leave your 'mark' on a city that will be well rid of you both. Of the 3 bridges our city is BUILT ON, thats the least used one since no one can drive past Coppergate unless they're an unaffordable taxi or an uncertain, route-limited bus. If you have only THREE paths over the rivers why not leave open the one next to the railroad station? RoseD
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5:55pm Mon 1 Jul 13

beechgrover says...

Yes, role for Press should be to inform readers, not to blow trumpet for Council.
Yes, role for Press should be to inform readers, not to blow trumpet for Council. beechgrover
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5:58pm Mon 1 Jul 13

matroom says...

RoseD wrote:
Not only are there no exemptions for Blue Badge holders (thus my surety i'll be forced to go to court), but What happens to those Fab and Wonderful Tourists who blunder down Gillygate and find they cant turn right? What happens to those pesky blue badgers who manage to enter the city and leave via Lendal. Do we still turn left? What happens when ppl react to all the (free? who pays for these?) Detour signs and bail at Lord Mayors Walk or better yet Lowther so i never ever get my car moved ever again? ALL the rest of the city will be awash in displaced cars. People cannot always just blithley switch to bikes. It is madness to close part of the Inner Ring Road. Hey Merrett and Alexander! Close the Ousegate Bridge if youre so desperate to leave your 'mark' on a city that will be well rid of you both. Of the 3 bridges our city is BUILT ON, thats the least used one since no one can drive past Coppergate unless they're an unaffordable taxi or an uncertain, route-limited bus. If you have only THREE paths over the rivers why not leave open the one next to the railroad station?
Brilliant.
[quote][p][bold]RoseD[/bold] wrote: Not only are there no exemptions for Blue Badge holders (thus my surety i'll be forced to go to court), but What happens to those Fab and Wonderful Tourists who blunder down Gillygate and find they cant turn right? What happens to those pesky blue badgers who manage to enter the city and leave via Lendal. Do we still turn left? What happens when ppl react to all the (free? who pays for these?) Detour signs and bail at Lord Mayors Walk or better yet Lowther so i never ever get my car moved ever again? ALL the rest of the city will be awash in displaced cars. People cannot always just blithley switch to bikes. It is madness to close part of the Inner Ring Road. Hey Merrett and Alexander! Close the Ousegate Bridge if youre so desperate to leave your 'mark' on a city that will be well rid of you both. Of the 3 bridges our city is BUILT ON, thats the least used one since no one can drive past Coppergate unless they're an unaffordable taxi or an uncertain, route-limited bus. If you have only THREE paths over the rivers why not leave open the one next to the railroad station?[/p][/quote]Brilliant. matroom
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6:08pm Mon 1 Jul 13

eeoodares says...

Crudas, why not ask the Park and Ride people to allow tourists to leave their cars there for the duration of their stay!

This scheme is not increasing the pedestrianised area, unless you class a massive bus as a pedestrian!
Crudas, why not ask the Park and Ride people to allow tourists to leave their cars there for the duration of their stay! This scheme is not increasing the pedestrianised area, unless you class a massive bus as a pedestrian! eeoodares
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6:25pm Mon 1 Jul 13

farmerpalmer says...

tsk tsk Paul - winding up to peeps again!
tsk tsk Paul - winding up to peeps again! farmerpalmer
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6:36pm Mon 1 Jul 13

thecairnman says...

roll on the next elections and lets get rid of this crazy council I for one will never vote for them again
roll on the next elections and lets get rid of this crazy council I for one will never vote for them again thecairnman
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6:38pm Mon 1 Jul 13

york_chap says...

The closure will make congestion, noise and air quality worse in several areas of York, but the councillors who pushed the scheme through don't care because it won't affect them. As has been the case for several years now; if you don't live within easy walking distance of the city centre, or if you dare to own an evil motor vehicle, Merrett and his ilk don't believe you exist. It really is that simple.
The closure will make congestion, noise and air quality worse in several areas of York, but the councillors who pushed the scheme through don't care because it won't affect them. As has been the case for several years now; if you don't live within easy walking distance of the city centre, or if you dare to own an evil motor vehicle, Merrett and his ilk don't believe you exist. It really is that simple. york_chap
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6:40pm Mon 1 Jul 13

ColdAsChristmas says...

Lunch time on what day Buzz?
Lunch time on what day Buzz? ColdAsChristmas
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7:27pm Mon 1 Jul 13

The Grumble says...

Roll on August and then then real whinging and whining can begin.

If the fatties get out of their cars and take a bit of exercise instead of sitting in traffic jams they might be less of a drain on the NHS.
Roll on August and then then real whinging and whining can begin. If the fatties get out of their cars and take a bit of exercise instead of sitting in traffic jams they might be less of a drain on the NHS. The Grumble
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7:42pm Mon 1 Jul 13

NoNewsIsGoodNews says...

The Grumble wrote:
Roll on August and then then real whinging and whining can begin.

If the fatties get out of their cars and take a bit of exercise instead of sitting in traffic jams they might be less of a drain on the NHS.
Looks like Paul Smith has set up an account.
[quote][p][bold]The Grumble[/bold] wrote: Roll on August and then then real whinging and whining can begin. If the fatties get out of their cars and take a bit of exercise instead of sitting in traffic jams they might be less of a drain on the NHS.[/p][/quote]Looks like Paul Smith has set up an account. NoNewsIsGoodNews
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8:03pm Mon 1 Jul 13

The Grumble says...

Me?

Designing Menswear?

Leave it out.
Me? Designing Menswear? Leave it out. The Grumble
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9:18pm Mon 1 Jul 13

matroom says...

Does anyone know if its getting closed before ebor ???
Does anyone know if its getting closed before ebor ??? matroom
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9:42pm Mon 1 Jul 13

waving, that's all says...

Here's another family which won't be using that particular travel agent.

The bridge is for the people who live in or near York all year round, not for those who visit once or twice in their life times.
Here's another family which won't be using that particular travel agent. The bridge is for the people who live in or near York all year round, not for those who visit once or twice in their life times. waving, that's all
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10:19pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Yorkshire B says...

Hilarious reading.

What a load of short sighted key board warrior grumbling.

That is all,

Keyboard warrior
Hilarious reading. What a load of short sighted key board warrior grumbling. That is all, Keyboard warrior Yorkshire B
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12:47am Tue 2 Jul 13

Buzzz Light-year says...

ColdAsChristmas wrote:
Lunch time on what day Buzz?
:D You're right.
Got that wrong didn't I?

I'm amazed actually.

I got banned from this site when I advised caution over what some people say if they have a history of claiming falsehoods, yet here stands some serious dissing on a personal level.

Was just going on that really...
[quote][p][bold]ColdAsChristmas[/bold] wrote: Lunch time on what day Buzz?[/p][/quote]:D You're right. Got that wrong didn't I? I'm amazed actually. I got banned from this site when I advised caution over what some people say if they have a history of claiming falsehoods, yet here stands some serious dissing on a personal level. Was just going on that really... Buzzz Light-year
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1:29am Tue 2 Jul 13

dweezil says...

Tourist 1: Locals 0. however they will tire of the endless Morrisonsainsburybud
gen shops on offer when all traders pack up and go home. Traffic may ease in York, because people will drive to work. To Leeds. puplic transport (not a sevice) will carry less people.Has anyone seen York station is for the use of those north of York? Not just those that can jog there. Lazy gits we are.
Tourist 1: Locals 0. however they will tire of the endless Morrisonsainsburybud gen shops on offer when all traders pack up and go home. Traffic may ease in York, because people will drive to work. To Leeds. puplic transport (not a sevice) will carry less people.Has anyone seen York station is for the use of those north of York? Not just those that can jog there. Lazy gits we are. dweezil
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12:30pm Tue 2 Jul 13

Yorkenstein says...

Welcome to the double-edged sword that is PR, Mr. Smith.
Welcome to the double-edged sword that is PR, Mr. Smith. Yorkenstein
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1:08pm Tue 2 Jul 13

YOUWILLDOASISAY says...

Well thats it job done, expert opinion of a travel agent, a council that is lost in the green and pleasant land of stupidity close an important traffic route in York.

Only one question, who's bridge is it, does the council own the bridge ?. Or does the bridge belong to the people that it was put there to serve ?.

Normal protocol of a true democracy would expect at the very least that this important matter was put to the vote, after all we had a vote on dog waste bins which made me feel engaged and appreciated.

Traffic Planning in York should be renamed Traffic, drop the planning bit and stop the pretence.
Well thats it job done, expert opinion of a travel agent, a council that is lost in the green and pleasant land of stupidity close an important traffic route in York. Only one question, who's bridge is it, does the council own the bridge ?. Or does the bridge belong to the people that it was put there to serve ?. Normal protocol of a true democracy would expect at the very least that this important matter was put to the vote, after all we had a vote on dog waste bins which made me feel engaged and appreciated. Traffic Planning in York should be renamed Traffic, drop the planning bit and stop the pretence. YOUWILLDOASISAY
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3:02pm Tue 2 Jul 13

steve_york says...

... I've lived in York all my life and don't even bother going into town on a day or night, pointless these days (and no I'm not old) I go in to York around 5 times per year, usually for someones birthday, and thats it... its not what it used to be... but thats change
... I've lived in York all my life and don't even bother going into town on a day or night, pointless these days (and no I'm not old) I go in to York around 5 times per year, usually for someones birthday, and thats it... its not what it used to be... but thats change steve_york
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12:23am Wed 3 Jul 13

Malcolm says...

I'm all in favour. Best idea I've heard for years. Don't give a flying f*** about motorists, they can get out and walk.
I'm all in favour. Best idea I've heard for years. Don't give a flying f*** about motorists, they can get out and walk. Malcolm
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6:48am Wed 3 Jul 13

The Grumble says...

Malcolm wrote:
I'm all in favour. Best idea I've heard for years. Don't give a flying f*** about motorists, they can get out and walk.
Do the gutbuckets some good to get a bit of exercise wheezing and puffing their way across the bridge on foot. With the road closed there will also be enough room for them to pass each other.
[quote][p][bold]Malcolm[/bold] wrote: I'm all in favour. Best idea I've heard for years. Don't give a flying f*** about motorists, they can get out and walk.[/p][/quote]Do the gutbuckets some good to get a bit of exercise wheezing and puffing their way across the bridge on foot. With the road closed there will also be enough room for them to pass each other. The Grumble
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11:03pm Wed 3 Jul 13

What-a-joke-they-are says...

Ichabod76 wrote:
Why do people keep calling it Public Transport ?
surely its commercial transport for the profit of a third party?
Shhhhh.... you'll spoil the illusion
[quote][p][bold]Ichabod76[/bold] wrote: Why do people keep calling it Public Transport ? surely its commercial transport for the profit of a third party?[/p][/quote]Shhhhh.... you'll spoil the illusion What-a-joke-they-are
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5:00pm Fri 5 Jul 13

blottie says...

I am so pleased Mr Smith cycles to work.Not everyone can,those of us who are disabled cannot.Closing Lendal Bridge is so short sighted,but that is CYC for you.I did not vote for them last time and certainly would not next time round,we need some common sense around here.
I am so pleased Mr Smith cycles to work.Not everyone can,those of us who are disabled cannot.Closing Lendal Bridge is so short sighted,but that is CYC for you.I did not vote for them last time and certainly would not next time round,we need some common sense around here. blottie
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11:05pm Mon 15 Jul 13

tommytuckamotor says...

ilikechocolate wrote:
had thought about booking next holiday with his agency but no way now after his comments. I have to use a car as I work shifts and buses times no good, am not lazy cannot pedal or walk due to knee and ankle problems as I am getting on in years.
Agree with you , they've lost my custom too !
[quote][p][bold]ilikechocolate[/bold] wrote: had thought about booking next holiday with his agency but no way now after his comments. I have to use a car as I work shifts and buses times no good, am not lazy cannot pedal or walk due to knee and ankle problems as I am getting on in years.[/p][/quote]Agree with you , they've lost my custom too ! tommytuckamotor
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