Developers ask for permission to demolish former pub (From York Press)
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Developers ask for permission to demolish former pub
10:31am Friday 15th March 2013 in News
DEVELOPERS have asked for swift clearance to demolish a former York pub after claiming it is a safety risk and a magnet for crime.
The owners of the Huntington Road site where the Yearsley Grove stands say the empty building has been regularly targeted by thieves looking to steal cable, despite North Yorkshire Police saying they have had no reports of crimes there since September 2011.
Moorside Developments Limited, which has applied for permission from City of York Council to knock down the building, said it had already served a demolition notice on the authority but had been told its planning department also had to assess the matter. In a letter to the authority’s planning department, the York-based firm asked for its application to be dealt with “as a matter of urgency”.
“Our concern for this site is one of health and safety, not only for the criminals who continue to break into the site to rip cables and anything they can from the building, but for local children who also seem to want to break in,” said the letter from Moorside’s managing director, Craig Smith.
“We are obviously taking all reasonable steps to keep them out, but this is a building which is in a poor state of repair, boarded up and dark inside. We are concerned for their welfare and that they could be seriously injured, particularly the children.”
Mr Smith’s letter said the firm had been told it needed to check whether specific planning permission was needed for the former pub building to be demolished, and to allow officers to study a “method statement” outlining how the work would be done. Moorside said the building was not listed or in a conservation area and risk assessments had been carried out.
North Yorkshire Police confirmed it had received two reports of criminal damage and one of theft at the site between September 2010 and September 2011, but no reports of crimes since then. In 2011, the pub was earmarked for refurbishment by Enterprise Inns, but has since closed.
Comments(22)
Bucktrout
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1:24pm Fri 15 Mar 13
bloodaxe
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1:52pm Fri 15 Mar 13
maybejustmaybe
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3:54pm Fri 15 Mar 13
maybejustmaybe
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3:54pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Scarlet Pimpernel
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5:26pm Fri 15 Mar 13
neutral observer 2 wrote:Well done Moorside.
Liars. The fact is they have ripped all the windows and doors out. Ripped all the trees out too. Classic developers ploy. There has surprisingly been no vandalism since being boarded up some months ago. Looked for planning notice etc. but nothing. Not sure on its history but think its an original coach house.
It's exactly what York needs; housing, jobs and growth !
A small Strensall developer fighting for survival, unlike their neighbours who are calling it a day.
This site will be developed because there will be no affordable homes required on it.
Scarlet Pimpernel
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5:37pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Moorside aren't lying. It's a fact !
NoMorePlease
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5:52pm Fri 15 Mar 13
probably the only ones who are then.
RoseD
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6:07pm Fri 15 Mar 13
Bucktrout wrote:Exactly!! Next, let's see if it has a mysterious fire. At least that's what happens in the States.
If I owned the rights to a piece of land and wanted to rush through permission to build on it, this is pretty much what I'd say. Just saying.
RoseD
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6:08pm Fri 15 Mar 13
maybejustmaybe wrote:XD. Should have scrolled down before posting.
Whats the odds it will suffer from arson shorlty?
Scarlet Pimpernel
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8:28pm Fri 15 Mar 13
scarkey bulldog
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1:01am Sat 16 Mar 13
neutral observer 2
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1:29am Sat 16 Mar 13
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:Oh the dreaded "gangs of teenagers" . Maybe somewhere they meet up, because they have no where else to go.
I've seen gangs of teenagers congregating there on an evening, climbing onto the flat roof and into the building through first floor windows.
Moorside aren't lying. It's a fact !
The only vandalism has been done by the contractors.
I'd prefer to believe the police who have said no crimes have been reported, not some disgruntled mouthy property developer who has driven by once or twice.
Moorsides actions are exactly why people like you cordock are good to be ignored.
You are little benefit to the needs of society and are only concerned at maximising your bottom line and not producing what is required.
Riding roughshod over planning law should be a criminal offence. Cant wait for the planning app. Its going to take a long while.......
Magicman!
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1:30am Sat 16 Mar 13
Essentially the developers have come in and made their own problems.
neutral observer 2
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1:32am Sat 16 Mar 13
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:The heart is bleeding as the violins wail.
neutral observer 2 wrote:Well done Moorside.
Liars. The fact is they have ripped all the windows and doors out. Ripped all the trees out too. Classic developers ploy. There has surprisingly been no vandalism since being boarded up some months ago. Looked for planning notice etc. but nothing. Not sure on its history but think its an original coach house.
It's exactly what York needs; housing, jobs and growth !
A small Strensall developer fighting for survival, unlike their neighbours who are calling it a day.
This site will be developed because there will be no affordable homes required on it.
ouseswimmer
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10:49am Sat 16 Mar 13
Scarlet Pimpernel
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1:05pm Sat 16 Mar 13
neutral observer 2 wrote:ha ha ha, you crack me up.
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote: I've seen gangs of teenagers congregating there on an evening, climbing onto the flat roof and into the building through first floor windows. Moorside aren't lying. It's a fact !Oh the dreaded "gangs of teenagers" . Maybe somewhere they meet up, because they have no where else to go. The only vandalism has been done by the contractors. I'd prefer to believe the police who have said no crimes have been reported, not some disgruntled mouthy property developer who has driven by once or twice. Moorsides actions are exactly why people like you cordock are good to be ignored. You are little benefit to the needs of society and are only concerned at maximising your bottom line and not producing what is required. Riding roughshod over planning law should be a criminal offence. Cant wait for the planning app. Its going to take a long while.......
You don't know me, because if you did, you would realise that you are barking up the wrong tree.
People ignoring me won't make the slightest difference to anything, and I hope that people like you, who have little or no understanding of development other than your petty, bitter, prejudice and envy, would ignore me, as you are of no value, other than to wind up.
Moorside are very successful and know what they are about. They will get their way with this, and deserve to. Like the Tannery at Strensall which you strangely support ? re-devloping the Yearsley grove will be a positive for the area, and prevent the derelict building becoming a magnet for anti-social behaviour, which my friends who live in the development opposite which I worked on, will appreciate.
Are we still meeting at Graham and Tom's for a quickie tonight ?
Scarlet Pimpernel
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1:09pm Sat 16 Mar 13
You allege that the work I do falls short of required standards/regulation
s. Can you name any projects that I have worked on ? or, companies I have worked for ?
Buzz Light-year
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3:04pm Sat 16 Mar 13
Scarlet Pimpernel
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7:31pm Sat 16 Mar 13
Buzz Light-year wrote:Bless you, Buzz.
I can! ;)
Do me a favour and don't tell NO2. Let him prove to us that he is as smart as you are, and as good a detective as Buzz Columbo !,
Buzz Light-year
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9:18pm Sat 16 Mar 13
Only a total **** would disrespect that.
Scarlet Pimpernel
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12:22am Sun 17 Mar 13
Buzz Light-year wrote:Quite right, Buzz !
Anonymity is the convention here. Only a total **** would disrespect that.
Who we are matters not, it's about opinions/views and issues, right ?
neutral observer 2 says...
1:09pm Fri 15 Mar 13
The fact is they have ripped all the windows and doors out.
Ripped all the trees out too.
Classic developers ploy.
There has surprisingly been no vandalism since being boarded up some months ago.
Looked for planning notice etc. but nothing.
Not sure on its history but think its an original coach house.