Crime put in spotlight at meeting

North Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner Julia Mulligan with MPs Julian Sturdy and Hugh Bayley at the public meeting North Yorkshire Police and Crime Commissioner Julia Mulligan with MPs Julian Sturdy and Hugh Bayley at the public meeting

YORK residents met the recently-elected police and crime commissioner and local MPs to discuss their views on local crime.

Issues discussed at the meeting with Julia Mulligan and York’s MPs Hugh Bayley and Julian Sturdy – which was attended by about 25 people – included domestic violence, road casualty rates, treatment of vulnerable people and antisocial behaviour.

Alcohol as an exacerbating feature of crime is a significant concern for the area, Mrs Mulligan said.

The low turnout of the Guildhall meeting was raised, with one atttendee asking Mrs Mulligan how comfortable she was holding the meeting with so few people.

Mrs Mulligan said: “I would like ten times as many people here. For the next one, we will do more.” But she added: “At least we are here and we are talking to you.”

Residents were invited to discuss the draft Police and Crime Plan, which is under consultation until March 18.

Particular concern was drawn to North Yorkshire being the only area in the country not to have a “place of safety unit” for vulnerable people picked up under the Mental Health Act.

While the NHS is obliged to provide such a unit, delays in financing the project currently mean children and adults with mental health issues picked up by police are held in cells for as long as 12 hours, with some being transported on an hour-and-a-half journey to Airedale Hospital.

Mrs Mulligan said significant pressure was being placed on health service commissioners to give the unit the go-ahead and said she had been told it would be commissioned this year.

The under-reporting of crimes was discussed, with the suggestion people did not report crimes as they did not feel they would be taken seriously by the police.

Mrs Mulligan said the highest proportion of complaints were about how police engaged with the public but she said she believed this was an unfair reflection of the service and there were many “fantastic” officers in the area. She is working to set up an independent complaints body in the next few months.

Mr Bayley called for the publication of crime statistics so it was possible for the public to follow trends and to know whether policies were working.

In response to this, Mrs Mulligan said in the last year there had been 1,412 fewer reported crimes overall in York, a drop of 11.2 per cent and a 17 per cent drop in burglaries. She suggested to Safer York Partnership that its statistics could be published on her website.

Comments(12)

Older Sometimes Wiser says...
10:32am Sat 9 Mar 13

I suspect that the low attendance was due primarily to an appalling lack of adequate publicity.I know that I and many associates would have gone if we had only known of it.
In future I suggest use of the existing formal and informal information email systems that exist in the City. An email to the York CVS could have worked wonders!
The topics discussed are of interest to many in York, but the absence of the date this Meeting took place suggests that the Press has some responsibility!

bob the builder says...
11:19am Sat 9 Mar 13

.. that worked well... no trouble makers asking difficult questions for example why many PCSO and serving officers are vying with public criminals to be in court these days.

rodney'sdog says...
12:21pm Sat 9 Mar 13

as neighborhood watch coordinator I received no news of the event..

Eborwatch says...
4:32pm Sat 9 Mar 13

No communication with Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinators in York. But not a great surprise since very little of value is circulated to the co-ordinators. We are told that the schemes are valued but I see no evidence of that. NYP must decide, along with the Safer York Partnership, to use us or lose us. It is not satisfactory to existing merely to satisfy some 'political' end.

ZachCohen says...
5:45pm Sat 9 Mar 13

No publicity= No awkward questions.
Perhaps they didnt want anyone to turn up.

Paul Hepworth says...
8:58am Sun 10 Mar 13

Eborwatch wrote:
No communication with Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinators in York. But not a great surprise since very little of value is circulated to the co-ordinators. We are told that the schemes are valued but I see no evidence of that. NYP must decide, along with the Safer York Partnership, to use us or lose us. It is not satisfactory to existing merely to satisfy some 'political' end.
Two members of York York's Neighbourhood Watch Committee attended the meeting. and one very eloquently made the point about the short notice and lack of advice to specialist interest organisations.
I'm sure that Julia is now appraised of the NHW presence in the County, and will arrange to familarise herself with its role. But please remember that she has a very wide ranging brief, and needs time to acquaint herself with all its facets.

Eborwatch says...
9:21am Sun 10 Mar 13

Paul Hepworth wrote:
Eborwatch wrote:
No communication with Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinators in York. But not a great surprise since very little of value is circulated to the co-ordinators. We are told that the schemes are valued but I see no evidence of that. NYP must decide, along with the Safer York Partnership, to use us or lose us. It is not satisfactory to existing merely to satisfy some 'political' end.
Two members of York York's Neighbourhood Watch Committee attended the meeting. and one very eloquently made the point about the short notice and lack of advice to specialist interest organisations.
I'm sure that Julia is now appraised of the NHW presence in the County, and will arrange to familarise herself with its role. But please remember that she has a very wide ranging brief, and needs time to acquaint herself with all its facets.
I am pleased representatives attended, although I am unsure as to the views they may have expressed or what feedback there is likely to be for NHW co-ordinators. It seems to me that it would not have been an immense task for the PCC's office to collate details of the many interest groups in York and North Yorkshire. Direct mail shots, emails or even old fashioned telephone calls would have then been appropriate. Use of the NHW computer would have been novel! I am reasonably briefed on the PCC's role and responsibilities. I understand she wishes to get 'closer' to victims of crime, perhaps NHW would be one avenue?

gmsgop says...
11:31am Sun 10 Mar 13

Ok so the consultation process has been floored - here is the link to the draft crime strategy with only a couple of days left to comment http://nypcc.wordpre
ss.com/comment/

The typeface on her website is really awful.
Just as at York city council turnout on consultations is very weak- I went to two of the ?3 city of York budget consultations no more than 9(generous) at the residents and the business consultation. In this case there was some publicity- but I fear that people don't bother attending because nothing that anyone says makes any difference. There are no ways to see what inputs are given and how they are accomodates. We need agreed protocols to give citizens confidence.
But still the city council has a community engagement task group who met a week or two back- lets see if they can bottom out the problem- no doubt they have asked for full citizen input to that review???? Guess the answer to that one folks #cycwatch hashtag on twitter for seeing good and could do better activities by our council @cityofyork

MadHaxMan says...
12:27pm Sun 10 Mar 13

Hmm. Around 200 people attended the recent bus services consultative meeting at the central Library, but that was publicised to at least a basic extent. I would have definitely attended this meeting had I even known of its existence (and I am from a family with 2 serving officers!).

Sillybillies says...
12:47pm Sun 10 Mar 13

Eborwatch says...
4:32pm Sat 9 Mar 13
No communication with Neighbourhood Watch co-ordinators in York. But not a great surprise since very little of value is circulated to the co-ordinators. We are told that the schemes are valued but I see no evidence of that. NYP must decide, along with the Safer York Partnership, to use us or lose us. It is not satisfactory to existing merely to satisfy some 'political' end.

I most heartily agree, the scheme in North Yorkshire is an utter waste of time.

powerwatt says...
3:07pm Sun 10 Mar 13

rodney'sdog wrote:
as neighborhood watch coordinator I received no news of the event..
A ringmaster message went out on Tuesday. That was as soon as anyone knew about it.

several of us brought the issue up of the very short notice.

Older Sometimes Wiser says...
5:10pm Sun 10 Mar 13

Update.
I have now discovered that this meeting was last Friday. March 8th.An announcement was published on the PCC website see:
http://www.northyork
shire-pcc.gov.uk/ind
ex.aspx?articleid=10
802
There is no indication when this was posted, but my City Councillor tells me that it was also advertised in the Press on-line.
Surprisingly Julia Mulligan didn't mention the York meeting when she spoke at the recent Shadow Health & Well-being Board Meeting on the 27th Feb where she delivered a paper on her Crime Strategy.( see comment above from gmsgop )

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