Empty space above Kings Square shop to become apartments

York Press: The city-centre property where the new apartments are to be created The city-centre property where the new apartments are to be created

EMPTY space above a York city-centre shop is to be converted into apartments.

Property investment company The Helmsley Group has bought the building, which contains four retail units, including Thomas The Bakers, and three empty upper floors, on the corner of Kings Square and Church Street, for £1.5 million.

The move is in line with a council initiative to convert empty upper floors into city-centre accommodation to help address York’s housing shortage.

But John Reeves, chairman of the Helmsley Group, said converting such space to residential use was not that simple.

The company has set up Kings Square Venture, a special fund made up of private investment from a syndicate of investors, which contains no pension-fund money, to be able to buy the building.

Mr Reeves said: “Where a property is owned by a private pension fund, and very many are, they are not allowed to convert to residential under pension fund rules.”

He said 60 per cent of Helmsley Group’s investment funding was made up of pension-fund money, and the main reason more floors above shops remain empty is because of red tape surrounding what pension funds can do with properties.

The group bought the building from a pension fund, which is why it has never been converted before, he said.

He said living accommodation over shops did not generate large profits for investors, and presented challenges such as insurance and the demands of residential tenants and full repairing leases.

“We specifically set this fund up deliberately so it could be converted. What’s the point of leaving Grade II Listed space empty in the middle of York?

“It is not the most profitable route for development, but it is profitable and even if we break even we would do it because it puts the property back into use.

“A property that’s occupied is looked after and this building has been empty upstairs for five to six years.”

Syndicate members are expected to gain an initial yield of 8.5 per cent, expected to climb to above 12 per cent once the two-bedroom apartments are completed and sold.

The group has planning permission and is looking for a builder to handle the sensitive conversion.

Mr Reeves: “It’s terrific to be able to buy well for clients as well as be able to bring back into use space above retail that can be converted into much-needed living accommodation.

“It’s a win-win situation – creating new homes for sale while enhancing clients’ returns in the process.

“We would love to buy more if we could find them.”

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9:27am Thu 28 Feb 13

Alpha Kenny Thing says...

Flats not apartments this is still England!
I hope there will be enough room to store all the bins but I very much doubt it.
Flats not apartments this is still England! I hope there will be enough room to store all the bins but I very much doubt it. Alpha Kenny Thing

9:45am Thu 28 Feb 13

capt spaulding says...

I hope no one overfills their bath above the bakery.
Thats what happened above the Picture gallery in Coppergate ! Lots of water dribbling through the ceiling onto some very expensive paintings.
I hope no one overfills their bath above the bakery. Thats what happened above the Picture gallery in Coppergate ! Lots of water dribbling through the ceiling onto some very expensive paintings. capt spaulding

10:11am Thu 28 Feb 13

ReginaldBiscuit says...

capt spaulding wrote:
I hope no one overfills their bath above the bakery.
Thats what happened above the Picture gallery in Coppergate ! Lots of water dribbling through the ceiling onto some very expensive paintings.
Let's hope a rampantly fornicating couple who work shifts and have the urge at any time of the day move in directly above.
[quote][p][bold]capt spaulding[/bold] wrote: I hope no one overfills their bath above the bakery. Thats what happened above the Picture gallery in Coppergate ! Lots of water dribbling through the ceiling onto some very expensive paintings.[/p][/quote]Let's hope a rampantly fornicating couple who work shifts and have the urge at any time of the day move in directly above. ReginaldBiscuit

10:59am Thu 28 Feb 13

Fat Harry says...

Alpha Kenny Thing wrote:
Flats not apartments this is still England! I hope there will be enough room to store all the bins but I very much doubt it.
What's the difference between an apartment and a flat?

About £25,000.
[quote][p][bold]Alpha Kenny Thing[/bold] wrote: Flats not apartments this is still England! I hope there will be enough room to store all the bins but I very much doubt it.[/p][/quote]What's the difference between an apartment and a flat? About £25,000. Fat Harry

11:28am Thu 28 Feb 13

gravitydrips says...

THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine. gravitydrips

3:59pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

gravitydrips wrote:
THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same.

I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE.

FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
[quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ! Scarlet Pimpernel

4:17pm Thu 28 Feb 13

bloodaxe says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote:
THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same.

I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE.

FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
I take it that this is your pitch for the school mock election. A wonderful idea but if housebuilders build for nothing, what will the workers live on ? Oh, I get it, this will be a cashless society. It's been tried before but one of the parties ate of the fruit and the whole thing ended in shambles, with mass evictions, serpents on the rampage and everyone knowing far more than was good for them.
As for the flats, brilliant. More and more of this.
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]I take it that this is your pitch for the school mock election. A wonderful idea but if housebuilders build for nothing, what will the workers live on ? Oh, I get it, this will be a cashless society. It's been tried before but one of the parties ate of the fruit and the whole thing ended in shambles, with mass evictions, serpents on the rampage and everyone knowing far more than was good for them. As for the flats, brilliant. More and more of this. bloodaxe

4:21pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Pedro says...

It's wrong on several levels.
It's wrong on several levels. Pedro

4:31pm Thu 28 Feb 13

PKH says...

Turning empty space above shops in the centre of York has been mooted for years, I will only believe it is becoming a reality when it actually happens.
Turning empty space above shops in the centre of York has been mooted for years, I will only believe it is becoming a reality when it actually happens. PKH

5:08pm Thu 28 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote:
THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same.

I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE.

FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really.
Because you refuse to accept the world has turned.
You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit.
Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates.
People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices.
No one could afford them then and still cant.
You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages. neutral observer 2

5:29pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Jam tomorrow says...

There was a guy on radio this morning saying every city centre will be like this soon. Shops are a thing of the past and only a few specialist ones will remain trading in city centres. City centres will have to become places of business, entertainment and pleasure with lots of retail premises becoming residential. Sadly, I think he may be correct.
A flat is the mean and space-less British version of a civilised apartment.
No to more flats.
There was a guy on radio this morning saying every city centre will be like this soon. Shops are a thing of the past and only a few specialist ones will remain trading in city centres. City centres will have to become places of business, entertainment and pleasure with lots of retail premises becoming residential. Sadly, I think he may be correct. A flat is the mean and space-less British version of a civilised apartment. No to more flats. Jam tomorrow

6:32pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

bloodaxe wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
I take it that this is your pitch for the school mock election. A wonderful idea but if housebuilders build for nothing, what will the workers live on ? Oh, I get it, this will be a cashless society. It's been tried before but one of the parties ate of the fruit and the whole thing ended in shambles, with mass evictions, serpents on the rampage and everyone knowing far more than was good for them. As for the flats, brilliant. More and more of this.
No not suggesting a cashless society. I think the housebuilders should pay their labour and material costs etc, but give away the product. When their money has run out, they will have to cease trading and make all their staff redundant. Private housebuilders will then be put out of business, and work for the state to build houses paid for by everyone else's taxes. I'm just accelerating Labour's plan to kill private housebuilders off, just like York Council have been doing using the affordable housing policy. I expect that comrades Merrett and Simpson-Laing and their left wing officers will be well impressed with my ideas, and want me to join their party next.

FREE HOUSING FOR ALL
and
f**K the private housebuilding industry !
[quote][p][bold]bloodaxe[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]I take it that this is your pitch for the school mock election. A wonderful idea but if housebuilders build for nothing, what will the workers live on ? Oh, I get it, this will be a cashless society. It's been tried before but one of the parties ate of the fruit and the whole thing ended in shambles, with mass evictions, serpents on the rampage and everyone knowing far more than was good for them. As for the flats, brilliant. More and more of this.[/p][/quote]No not suggesting a cashless society. I think the housebuilders should pay their labour and material costs etc, but give away the product. When their money has run out, they will have to cease trading and make all their staff redundant. Private housebuilders will then be put out of business, and work for the state to build houses paid for by everyone else's taxes. I'm just accelerating Labour's plan to kill private housebuilders off, just like York Council have been doing using the affordable housing policy. I expect that comrades Merrett and Simpson-Laing and their left wing officers will be well impressed with my ideas, and want me to join their party next. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL and f**K the private housebuilding industry ! Scarlet Pimpernel

6:33pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
[quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ! Scarlet Pimpernel

6:48pm Thu 28 Feb 13

ouseswimmer says...

Its crazy mad that York has all this empty space. Do not be taken in with this pension no rental story its not true. Its because shops don't want someone playing loud music up above!
Its crazy mad that York has all this empty space. Do not be taken in with this pension no rental story its not true. Its because shops don't want someone playing loud music up above! ouseswimmer

7:05pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Fourkov says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
Great comment from site idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ![/p][/quote]Great comment from site idiot. Fourkov

7:13pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Bo Jolly says...

Face facts, without parking (or at the very least secure bike storage) they will never be popular. That is a problem that will need to be faced if city centres are really going to become the residential areas of the future.
Face facts, without parking (or at the very least secure bike storage) they will never be popular. That is a problem that will need to be faced if city centres are really going to become the residential areas of the future. Bo Jolly

9:11pm Thu 28 Feb 13

neutral observer 2 says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
Dont be like that Paul.
I might bump into you in Strensall high street.
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ![/p][/quote]Dont be like that Paul. I might bump into you in Strensall high street. neutral observer 2

9:21pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
Dont be like that Paul.
I might bump into you in Strensall high street.
You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way !
[quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ![/p][/quote]Dont be like that Paul. I might bump into you in Strensall high street.[/p][/quote]You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way ! Scarlet Pimpernel

9:22pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Fourkov wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
Great comment from site idiot.
There speaks the voice of experience. Well said, you complete tw*t !
[quote][p][bold]Fourkov[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ![/p][/quote]Great comment from site idiot.[/p][/quote]There speaks the voice of experience. Well said, you complete tw*t ! Scarlet Pimpernel

9:46pm Thu 28 Feb 13

Fourkov says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Fourkov wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
Great comment from site idiot.
There speaks the voice of experience. Well said, you complete tw*t !
Ooh isn't she angry. Time of month is it?
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Fourkov[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ![/p][/quote]Great comment from site idiot.[/p][/quote]There speaks the voice of experience. Well said, you complete tw*t ![/p][/quote]Ooh isn't she angry. Time of month is it? Fourkov

10:30pm Thu 28 Feb 13

heworth.28 says...

Isn't the article just another regurgitated press release?
Isn't the article just another regurgitated press release? heworth.28

10:45pm Thu 28 Feb 13

TheTruthHurts says...

WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too.
'
I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'
WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in' TheTruthHurts

5:58am Fri 1 Mar 13

neutral observer 2 says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
Dont be like that Paul.
I might bump into you in Strensall high street.
You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way !
you wont know its coming. bit like a bailiff. Cant wait to see you squirm
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ![/p][/quote]Dont be like that Paul. I might bump into you in Strensall high street.[/p][/quote]You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way ![/p][/quote]you wont know its coming. bit like a bailiff. Cant wait to see you squirm neutral observer 2

7:56am Fri 1 Mar 13

Buzz Light-year says...

Well.
Sweary and threatening.
Not very dignified, Pimp.

You should stick to joint letter writing with "the great man."
Well. Sweary and threatening. Not very dignified, Pimp. You should stick to joint letter writing with "the great man." Buzz Light-year

10:54am Fri 1 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

TheTruthHurts wrote:
WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'
I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act.

Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH.
[quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'[/p][/quote]I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act. Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH. Scarlet Pimpernel

10:56am Fri 1 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Well. Sweary and threatening. Not very dignified, Pimp. You should stick to joint letter writing with "the great man."
Ever the ad hominen troll !
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Well. Sweary and threatening. Not very dignified, Pimp. You should stick to joint letter writing with "the great man."[/p][/quote]Ever the ad hominen troll ! Scarlet Pimpernel

10:57am Fri 1 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Buzz Light-year wrote: Well. Sweary and threatening. Not very dignified, Pimp. You should stick to joint letter writing with "the great man."
Ever the ad hominen troll !
Ad hominem
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: Well. Sweary and threatening. Not very dignified, Pimp. You should stick to joint letter writing with "the great man."[/p][/quote]Ever the ad hominen troll ![/p][/quote]Ad hominem Scarlet Pimpernel

11:01am Fri 1 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
Dont be like that Paul. I might bump into you in Strensall high street.
You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way !
you wont know its coming. bit like a bailiff. Cant wait to see you squirm
I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.
[quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ![/p][/quote]Dont be like that Paul. I might bump into you in Strensall high street.[/p][/quote]You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way ![/p][/quote]you wont know its coming. bit like a bailiff. Cant wait to see you squirm[/p][/quote]I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means. Scarlet Pimpernel

12:59pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Buzz Light-year says...

I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.

All that and yet you're still not happy.
Just goes to show.
[quote]I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.[/quote] All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show. Buzz Light-year

1:58pm Fri 1 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.
All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.
I'm luckier than many who have lost their jobs/livelihoods and businesses. In York there are many. I have managed my finances carefully, not taking holidays or buying new clothes for five years. I claim no benefits but have supported many who do. Those who the left attack, are mainly those who's taxes and contributions support
the poor, whilst the attackers look after themselves.

What is it about the social housing brigade that make them hate housebuilders ? They seem to blame them for not building enough houses, and expect them to do it for little or no profit. Housebuilders are minnows in terms of GDP, and other sectors make massive profits like drugs companies. Social responsibility is equal and that goes for housing. It's time that politicians and the social housing brigade got off the backs of private housebuilding.
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.[/quote] All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.[/p][/quote]I'm luckier than many who have lost their jobs/livelihoods and businesses. In York there are many. I have managed my finances carefully, not taking holidays or buying new clothes for five years. I claim no benefits but have supported many who do. Those who the left attack, are mainly those who's taxes and contributions support the poor, whilst the attackers look after themselves. What is it about the social housing brigade that make them hate housebuilders ? They seem to blame them for not building enough houses, and expect them to do it for little or no profit. Housebuilders are minnows in terms of GDP, and other sectors make massive profits like drugs companies. Social responsibility is equal and that goes for housing. It's time that politicians and the social housing brigade got off the backs of private housebuilding. Scarlet Pimpernel

8:31am Sat 2 Mar 13

neutral observer 2 says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
TheTruthHurts wrote:
WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'
I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act.

Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH.
Bit rich that.
All ive ever seen is a stream of accusations of fraudulent use of the public purse, without any facts.
Also implying people have been forced to sign documents against their will.
You havent been able to answer, how much a house in your view cost us all. If not affordable. How people get the cash to fund it...... In a proper way like your saintly self.
Your like a spoilt child in a shop when mummy wont buy you any sweets.
Best off being safe and selfish, instead of standing up for election and showing us all the Utopian dream we are missing.
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'[/p][/quote]I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act. Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH.[/p][/quote]Bit rich that. All ive ever seen is a stream of accusations of fraudulent use of the public purse, without any facts. Also implying people have been forced to sign documents against their will. You havent been able to answer, how much a house in your view cost us all. If not affordable. How people get the cash to fund it...... In a proper way like your saintly self. Your like a spoilt child in a shop when mummy wont buy you any sweets. Best off being safe and selfish, instead of standing up for election and showing us all the Utopian dream we are missing. neutral observer 2

1:02pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
TheTruthHurts wrote: WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'
I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act. Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH.
Bit rich that. All ive ever seen is a stream of accusations of fraudulent use of the public purse, without any facts. Also implying people have been forced to sign documents against their will. You havent been able to answer, how much a house in your view cost us all. If not affordable. How people get the cash to fund it...... In a proper way like your saintly self. Your like a spoilt child in a shop when mummy wont buy you any sweets. Best off being safe and selfish, instead of standing up for election and showing us all the Utopian dream we are missing.
You make it up as you go along, just as you did as Jezreel and south bronx red 2.

The fact is, CYC are guilty of wholesale cheating with their Get York Building report, which is riddled with inaccuracies, inconsistencies and lies, and factually deficient because of omissions of the bits which would invalidate the councils proposals.

The only houses CYC want to get built is social housing by JRHT and their RSL buddies. Problem is, they can't deliver. Look at Derwenthorpe. JRHT told Inside Housing that they would complete the whole development of 540 homes by 2016. That's a joke. They haven't completed phase 1 yet, which is only 64 units and they have been on site two years. They haven't appointed a builder for Phase 2 yet, so there will be a delay in production/sales after Phase 1 is completed. At their current rate of sales and build, it will take them over 20 years to complete the development - four times longer than they claimed in last years Inside Housing article !

CYC will Get York Building - building a bigger waiting list, not houses !
[quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'[/p][/quote]I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act. Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH.[/p][/quote]Bit rich that. All ive ever seen is a stream of accusations of fraudulent use of the public purse, without any facts. Also implying people have been forced to sign documents against their will. You havent been able to answer, how much a house in your view cost us all. If not affordable. How people get the cash to fund it...... In a proper way like your saintly self. Your like a spoilt child in a shop when mummy wont buy you any sweets. Best off being safe and selfish, instead of standing up for election and showing us all the Utopian dream we are missing.[/p][/quote]You make it up as you go along, just as you did as Jezreel and south bronx red 2. The fact is, CYC are guilty of wholesale cheating with their Get York Building report, which is riddled with inaccuracies, inconsistencies and lies, and factually deficient because of omissions of the bits which would invalidate the councils proposals. The only houses CYC want to get built is social housing by JRHT and their RSL buddies. Problem is, they can't deliver. Look at Derwenthorpe. JRHT told Inside Housing that they would complete the whole development of 540 homes by 2016. That's a joke. They haven't completed phase 1 yet, which is only 64 units and they have been on site two years. They haven't appointed a builder for Phase 2 yet, so there will be a delay in production/sales after Phase 1 is completed. At their current rate of sales and build, it will take them over 20 years to complete the development - four times longer than they claimed in last years Inside Housing article ! CYC will Get York Building - building a bigger waiting list, not houses ! Scarlet Pimpernel

1:10pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.
All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.
Goes to show what ?

That I want York Council to allow local firms build houses and provide jobs, which will also bring growth to the economy.
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.[/quote] All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.[/p][/quote]Goes to show what ? That I want York Council to allow local firms build houses and provide jobs, which will also bring growth to the economy. Scarlet Pimpernel

1:15pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.
All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.
It's not about what I've got.

It's about what York needs.

York needs housing.

York needs jobs.

York needs growth to it's economy.

It won't get anywhere enough of any of these, with CYC's current policies.

Their policies are anti-business as far as housebuilding is concerned. The numbers don't lie, but, CYC's Get York Building Report does - it'a a pack of lies !
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.[/quote] All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.[/p][/quote]It's not about what I've got. It's about what York needs. York needs housing. York needs jobs. York needs growth to it's economy. It won't get anywhere enough of any of these, with CYC's current policies. Their policies are anti-business as far as housebuilding is concerned. The numbers don't lie, but, CYC's Get York Building Report does - it'a a pack of lies ! Scarlet Pimpernel

1:18pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.
All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.
I'm not happy that CYC's officers are telling a pack of lies in their Get York Building report.

York residents should not be happy about it either !

There should be an Inquiry into this.
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.[/quote] All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.[/p][/quote]I'm not happy that CYC's officers are telling a pack of lies in their Get York Building report. York residents should not be happy about it either ! There should be an Inquiry into this. Scarlet Pimpernel

1:20pm Sat 2 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

heworth.28 wrote:
Isn't the article just another regurgitated press release?
Don't understand what you are getting at, Heworth.28 ?

Can you elaborate, please ?
[quote][p][bold]heworth.28[/bold] wrote: Isn't the article just another regurgitated press release?[/p][/quote]Don't understand what you are getting at, Heworth.28 ? Can you elaborate, please ? Scarlet Pimpernel

8:35am Sun 3 Mar 13

neutral observer 2 says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
TheTruthHurts wrote: WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'
I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act. Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH.
Bit rich that. All ive ever seen is a stream of accusations of fraudulent use of the public purse, without any facts. Also implying people have been forced to sign documents against their will. You havent been able to answer, how much a house in your view cost us all. If not affordable. How people get the cash to fund it...... In a proper way like your saintly self. Your like a spoilt child in a shop when mummy wont buy you any sweets. Best off being safe and selfish, instead of standing up for election and showing us all the Utopian dream we are missing.
You make it up as you go along, just as you did as Jezreel and south bronx red 2.

The fact is, CYC are guilty of wholesale cheating with their Get York Building report, which is riddled with inaccuracies, inconsistencies and lies, and factually deficient because of omissions of the bits which would invalidate the councils proposals.

The only houses CYC want to get built is social housing by JRHT and their RSL buddies. Problem is, they can't deliver. Look at Derwenthorpe. JRHT told Inside Housing that they would complete the whole development of 540 homes by 2016. That's a joke. They haven't completed phase 1 yet, which is only 64 units and they have been on site two years. They haven't appointed a builder for Phase 2 yet, so there will be a delay in production/sales after Phase 1 is completed. At their current rate of sales and build, it will take them over 20 years to complete the development - four times longer than they claimed in last years Inside Housing article !

CYC will Get York Building - building a bigger waiting list, not houses !
So David Wilson Homes are holding up Derwenthorpe ?
As i thought, your grand only idea is for you to get wedge of the potential cash.
As far as i was aware those on site were local workers.
The problem you refuse to accept is you want the same profits under a new world system.
You always shy away from what you see as affordable and where the money is going to come from to pay for it.
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'[/p][/quote]I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act. Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH.[/p][/quote]Bit rich that. All ive ever seen is a stream of accusations of fraudulent use of the public purse, without any facts. Also implying people have been forced to sign documents against their will. You havent been able to answer, how much a house in your view cost us all. If not affordable. How people get the cash to fund it...... In a proper way like your saintly self. Your like a spoilt child in a shop when mummy wont buy you any sweets. Best off being safe and selfish, instead of standing up for election and showing us all the Utopian dream we are missing.[/p][/quote]You make it up as you go along, just as you did as Jezreel and south bronx red 2. The fact is, CYC are guilty of wholesale cheating with their Get York Building report, which is riddled with inaccuracies, inconsistencies and lies, and factually deficient because of omissions of the bits which would invalidate the councils proposals. The only houses CYC want to get built is social housing by JRHT and their RSL buddies. Problem is, they can't deliver. Look at Derwenthorpe. JRHT told Inside Housing that they would complete the whole development of 540 homes by 2016. That's a joke. They haven't completed phase 1 yet, which is only 64 units and they have been on site two years. They haven't appointed a builder for Phase 2 yet, so there will be a delay in production/sales after Phase 1 is completed. At their current rate of sales and build, it will take them over 20 years to complete the development - four times longer than they claimed in last years Inside Housing article ! CYC will Get York Building - building a bigger waiting list, not houses ![/p][/quote]So David Wilson Homes are holding up Derwenthorpe ? As i thought, your grand only idea is for you to get wedge of the potential cash. As far as i was aware those on site were local workers. The problem you refuse to accept is you want the same profits under a new world system. You always shy away from what you see as affordable and where the money is going to come from to pay for it. neutral observer 2

12:56pm Sun 3 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
TheTruthHurts wrote: WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'
I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act. Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH.
Bit rich that. All ive ever seen is a stream of accusations of fraudulent use of the public purse, without any facts. Also implying people have been forced to sign documents against their will. You havent been able to answer, how much a house in your view cost us all. If not affordable. How people get the cash to fund it...... In a proper way like your saintly self. Your like a spoilt child in a shop when mummy wont buy you any sweets. Best off being safe and selfish, instead of standing up for election and showing us all the Utopian dream we are missing.
You make it up as you go along, just as you did as Jezreel and south bronx red 2. The fact is, CYC are guilty of wholesale cheating with their Get York Building report, which is riddled with inaccuracies, inconsistencies and lies, and factually deficient because of omissions of the bits which would invalidate the councils proposals. The only houses CYC want to get built is social housing by JRHT and their RSL buddies. Problem is, they can't deliver. Look at Derwenthorpe. JRHT told Inside Housing that they would complete the whole development of 540 homes by 2016. That's a joke. They haven't completed phase 1 yet, which is only 64 units and they have been on site two years. They haven't appointed a builder for Phase 2 yet, so there will be a delay in production/sales after Phase 1 is completed. At their current rate of sales and build, it will take them over 20 years to complete the development - four times longer than they claimed in last years Inside Housing article ! CYC will Get York Building - building a bigger waiting list, not houses !
So David Wilson Homes are holding up Derwenthorpe ? As i thought, your grand only idea is for you to get wedge of the potential cash. As far as i was aware those on site were local workers. The problem you refuse to accept is you want the same profits under a new world system. You always shy away from what you see as affordable and where the money is going to come from to pay for it.
Not DWH holding it up - JRHT and the council's plan has failed. 40% AH puts private buyers off. Even with a £20m discount on the land and £8.5m finance from the HCA, they can't make it work. Telling Inside Housing last year, that they would be complete by 2016, shows how clueless and deluded they are.

Because you can't grasp what the issue is, let me spell it out to you:-
1. Blackmailing developers using planning/S106 to provide affordable (social) housing has had it's day.
2. York Council's setting of the illegitimate 50% target and retaining it for nearly six years caused ,massive damage to housebuilding in York, compounding the effects of the credit crunch, that is why York's housing completions fell 72% against 37% in the UK.
3. Paying for affordable housing has to be funded by government. Just because housebuilders build houses does not make them responsible for sorting out the housing mess.

You don't understand how housebuilding industry operates. Unless there is regulatory roll-back, only large firms will survive, and the structural damage to the industry through the loss of small companies will compound the housing crisis.
[quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]TheTruthHurts[/bold] wrote: WTF scarlet whats going on, i fully support your arguments with regards to affordable housing and should keep fighting the good fight. But comments like above which are sure to be removed just play you right into your opponents hands. And also justify comments that some others have made about you on these pages and the letters comments too. ' I think the phrase im looking for is 'wind yer neck in'[/p][/quote]I'm passed caring, TTH. You know that I have, in the main, being rational, reasonable/fair with my arguments. I have backed these up with facts, evidence and analysis. Yet despite doing this, there has been attacks against my character and disagreement with my assertions but with no counter-evidence or facts provided. So, if they accuse me of being unhinged, paranoid and obsessive, when in the past I have not lived up to these accusations, I might as well start acting as they would have me act. Have I lost the argument ? I am no longer bothered TBH.[/p][/quote]Bit rich that. All ive ever seen is a stream of accusations of fraudulent use of the public purse, without any facts. Also implying people have been forced to sign documents against their will. You havent been able to answer, how much a house in your view cost us all. If not affordable. How people get the cash to fund it...... In a proper way like your saintly self. Your like a spoilt child in a shop when mummy wont buy you any sweets. Best off being safe and selfish, instead of standing up for election and showing us all the Utopian dream we are missing.[/p][/quote]You make it up as you go along, just as you did as Jezreel and south bronx red 2. The fact is, CYC are guilty of wholesale cheating with their Get York Building report, which is riddled with inaccuracies, inconsistencies and lies, and factually deficient because of omissions of the bits which would invalidate the councils proposals. The only houses CYC want to get built is social housing by JRHT and their RSL buddies. Problem is, they can't deliver. Look at Derwenthorpe. JRHT told Inside Housing that they would complete the whole development of 540 homes by 2016. That's a joke. They haven't completed phase 1 yet, which is only 64 units and they have been on site two years. They haven't appointed a builder for Phase 2 yet, so there will be a delay in production/sales after Phase 1 is completed. At their current rate of sales and build, it will take them over 20 years to complete the development - four times longer than they claimed in last years Inside Housing article ! CYC will Get York Building - building a bigger waiting list, not houses ![/p][/quote]So David Wilson Homes are holding up Derwenthorpe ? As i thought, your grand only idea is for you to get wedge of the potential cash. As far as i was aware those on site were local workers. The problem you refuse to accept is you want the same profits under a new world system. You always shy away from what you see as affordable and where the money is going to come from to pay for it.[/p][/quote]Not DWH holding it up - JRHT and the council's plan has failed. 40% AH puts private buyers off. Even with a £20m discount on the land and £8.5m finance from the HCA, they can't make it work. Telling Inside Housing last year, that they would be complete by 2016, shows how clueless and deluded they are. Because you can't grasp what the issue is, let me spell it out to you:- 1. Blackmailing developers using planning/S106 to provide affordable (social) housing has had it's day. 2. York Council's setting of the illegitimate 50% target and retaining it for nearly six years caused ,massive damage to housebuilding in York, compounding the effects of the credit crunch, that is why York's housing completions fell 72% against 37% in the UK. 3. Paying for affordable housing has to be funded by government. Just because housebuilders build houses does not make them responsible for sorting out the housing mess. You don't understand how housebuilding industry operates. Unless there is regulatory roll-back, only large firms will survive, and the structural damage to the industry through the loss of small companies will compound the housing crisis. Scarlet Pimpernel

1:05pm Sun 3 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

neutral observer 2

There are two choices for York Council with their AH targets:-

1. Lower them to no more than 10% and get more housing, more jobs and growth to York's economy, with stalled sites starting.
or,
2. Keep them at current levels, and get very little improvement.
neutral observer 2 There are two choices for York Council with their AH targets:- 1. Lower them to no more than 10% and get more housing, more jobs and growth to York's economy, with stalled sites starting. or, 2. Keep them at current levels, and get very little improvement. Scarlet Pimpernel

9:53am Mon 4 Mar 13

meme says...

I find it amazing how people get so anoyed over a story.
How can it be a bad thing to provide more places for people to live no matter who they are aimed at?
People living in the City creates vitality for the shops etc and the wealth spreads downwards to all.
Developers have to make profits but can only charge what people will pay and by the time the planners/conservatio
n officers etc have taken their chunk the price has to be enough to cover the costs of conversion.
As for the negative comment about pension funds NOT being allowed to convert and collect rents... this is entirely correct. Our clever government and HMRC policies activly prevent such conversions!
As for affordable homes ther eis a huge issue here. In times of recession smaller builders cannot provide them and stay in business hence little devlopment taking place. We all know there is an issue but how can a small developer provide them when JRHT at Derwenthorpe needed some £5 million plus subsidy to provide them? Its madness when combined with all the other payments York seek
A pip can only be sqeezed until it is dry and the pips are now dry! Builders want to build but must make a profit to do so If they dot they go bust and all the peole who rely on them for work go out of work How can that be good for the economy?
I find it amazing how people get so anoyed over a story. How can it be a bad thing to provide more places for people to live no matter who they are aimed at? People living in the City creates vitality for the shops etc and the wealth spreads downwards to all. Developers have to make profits but can only charge what people will pay and by the time the planners/conservatio n officers etc have taken their chunk the price has to be enough to cover the costs of conversion. As for the negative comment about pension funds NOT being allowed to convert and collect rents... this is entirely correct. Our clever government and HMRC policies activly prevent such conversions! As for affordable homes ther eis a huge issue here. In times of recession smaller builders cannot provide them and stay in business hence little devlopment taking place. We all know there is an issue but how can a small developer provide them when JRHT at Derwenthorpe needed some £5 million plus subsidy to provide them? Its madness when combined with all the other payments York seek A pip can only be sqeezed until it is dry and the pips are now dry! Builders want to build but must make a profit to do so If they dot they go bust and all the peole who rely on them for work go out of work How can that be good for the economy? meme

1:17pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Buzz Light-year says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Buzz Light-year wrote:
I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.
All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.
Goes to show what ? That I want York Council to allow local firms build houses and provide jobs, which will also bring growth to the economy.
Just goes to show that being financially comfortable doesn't always equate with happiness.

It's obvious you're not happy.
The endless hours you put into manaically repeating your message over and over again on these pages and on Steve Galloway's pages and emailing the council to the point of getting blocked and writing two-pronged letter salvos alongside Mr Laverack to all manner of publications nationwide etc etc.

A happy man would have better things to do with his time.

Your Twitter thing didn't last long did it?
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.[/quote] All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.[/p][/quote]Goes to show what ? That I want York Council to allow local firms build houses and provide jobs, which will also bring growth to the economy.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that being financially comfortable doesn't always equate with happiness. It's obvious you're not happy. The endless hours you put into manaically repeating your message over and over again on these pages and on Steve Galloway's pages and emailing the council to the point of getting blocked and writing two-pronged letter salvos alongside Mr Laverack to all manner of publications nationwide etc etc. A happy man would have better things to do with his time. Your Twitter thing didn't last long did it? Buzz Light-year

3:08pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Buzz Light-year wrote:
I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.
All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.
Goes to show what ? That I want York Council to allow local firms build houses and provide jobs, which will also bring growth to the economy.
Just goes to show that being financially comfortable doesn't always equate with happiness. It's obvious you're not happy. The endless hours you put into manaically repeating your message over and over again on these pages and on Steve Galloway's pages and emailing the council to the point of getting blocked and writing two-pronged letter salvos alongside Mr Laverack to all manner of publications nationwide etc etc. A happy man would have better things to do with his time. Your Twitter thing didn't last long did it?
So are you saying that unless you are on benefits or in financial difficulty, you shouldn't speak out against wrongdoing ?

In your world, happy, solvent people shouldn't speak out against cheating and lying by council members and officers ?

What I do with my time, is my business. Get off my back, you creep.
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.[/quote] All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.[/p][/quote]Goes to show what ? That I want York Council to allow local firms build houses and provide jobs, which will also bring growth to the economy.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that being financially comfortable doesn't always equate with happiness. It's obvious you're not happy. The endless hours you put into manaically repeating your message over and over again on these pages and on Steve Galloway's pages and emailing the council to the point of getting blocked and writing two-pronged letter salvos alongside Mr Laverack to all manner of publications nationwide etc etc. A happy man would have better things to do with his time. Your Twitter thing didn't last long did it?[/p][/quote]So are you saying that unless you are on benefits or in financial difficulty, you shouldn't speak out against wrongdoing ? In your world, happy, solvent people shouldn't speak out against cheating and lying by council members and officers ? What I do with my time, is my business. Get off my back, you creep. Scarlet Pimpernel

3:19pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Buzz Light-year wrote:
I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.
All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.
Goes to show what ? That I want York Council to allow local firms build houses and provide jobs, which will also bring growth to the economy.
Just goes to show that being financially comfortable doesn't always equate with happiness. It's obvious you're not happy. The endless hours you put into manaically repeating your message over and over again on these pages and on Steve Galloway's pages and emailing the council to the point of getting blocked and writing two-pronged letter salvos alongside Mr Laverack to all manner of publications nationwide etc etc. A happy man would have better things to do with his time. Your Twitter thing didn't last long did it?
I'm not on twitter, BTW..... got better things to do !
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]I have no fear of baliffs. All bills paid, no mortgage, no credit cards, no debt, CITB balances in credit, and plenty of investments/assets. I live well within my means.[/quote] All that and yet you're still not happy. Just goes to show.[/p][/quote]Goes to show what ? That I want York Council to allow local firms build houses and provide jobs, which will also bring growth to the economy.[/p][/quote]Just goes to show that being financially comfortable doesn't always equate with happiness. It's obvious you're not happy. The endless hours you put into manaically repeating your message over and over again on these pages and on Steve Galloway's pages and emailing the council to the point of getting blocked and writing two-pronged letter salvos alongside Mr Laverack to all manner of publications nationwide etc etc. A happy man would have better things to do with his time. Your Twitter thing didn't last long did it?[/p][/quote]I'm not on twitter, BTW..... got better things to do ! Scarlet Pimpernel

7:14pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Buzz Light-year says...

Get off my back, you creep.

No need for that.

You were on Twitter, harassing councillors as usual and contacting local property firms.
Then you deleted everything.
Someone rattled your cage innit.
[quote]Get off my back, you creep.[/quote] No need for that. You were on Twitter, harassing councillors as usual and contacting local property firms. Then you deleted everything. Someone rattled your cage innit. Buzz Light-year

7:51pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Get off my back, you creep.

No need for that.

You were on Twitter, harassing councillors as usual and contacting local property firms.
Then you deleted everything.
Someone rattled your cage innit.
Sorry, not with you ? I'm not on twitter. Why would I be contacting property firms ?
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]Get off my back, you creep.[/quote] No need for that. You were on Twitter, harassing councillors as usual and contacting local property firms. Then you deleted everything. Someone rattled your cage innit.[/p][/quote]Sorry, not with you ? I'm not on twitter. Why would I be contacting property firms ? Scarlet Pimpernel

8:48pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Buzz Light-year says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Buzz Light-year wrote:
Get off my back, you creep.
No need for that. You were on Twitter, harassing councillors as usual and contacting local property firms. Then you deleted everything. Someone rattled your cage innit.
Sorry, not with you ? I'm not on twitter. Why would I be contacting property firms ?
Well duh!
To ask them if they thought CYC's AH policy has had a negative effect on blah blah blah.
One of them agreed with you.
You even managed to engage JA for a bit.

Have you heard of "screenshots"? :D
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]Get off my back, you creep.[/quote] No need for that. You were on Twitter, harassing councillors as usual and contacting local property firms. Then you deleted everything. Someone rattled your cage innit.[/p][/quote]Sorry, not with you ? I'm not on twitter. Why would I be contacting property firms ?[/p][/quote]Well duh! To ask them if they thought CYC's AH policy has had a negative effect on blah blah blah. One of them agreed with you. You even managed to engage JA for a bit. Have you heard of "screenshots"? :D Buzz Light-year

10:38pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
Buzz Light-year wrote:
Get off my back, you creep.
No need for that. You were on Twitter, harassing councillors as usual and contacting local property firms. Then you deleted everything. Someone rattled your cage innit.
Sorry, not with you ? I'm not on twitter. Why would I be contacting property firms ?
Well duh!
To ask them if they thought CYC's AH policy has had a negative effect on blah blah blah.
One of them agreed with you.
You even managed to engage JA for a bit.

Have you heard of "screenshots"? :D
Sorry, can't help you with this, but, good luck to whoever it is ?

You could tweet him/her and tell them they are wasting their time.
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]Get off my back, you creep.[/quote] No need for that. You were on Twitter, harassing councillors as usual and contacting local property firms. Then you deleted everything. Someone rattled your cage innit.[/p][/quote]Sorry, not with you ? I'm not on twitter. Why would I be contacting property firms ?[/p][/quote]Well duh! To ask them if they thought CYC's AH policy has had a negative effect on blah blah blah. One of them agreed with you. You even managed to engage JA for a bit. Have you heard of "screenshots"? :D[/p][/quote]Sorry, can't help you with this, but, good luck to whoever it is ? You could tweet him/her and tell them they are wasting their time. Scarlet Pimpernel

10:46pm Mon 4 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Hey Buzz

Just noticed your post on the Escrick parish council story, and was about to make a comment, and guess what ?

Our theory seems to be proven right again.

Shocking, eh ?
,
Hey Buzz Just noticed your post on the Escrick parish council story, and was about to make a comment, and guess what ? Our theory seems to be proven right again. Shocking, eh ? , Scarlet Pimpernel

8:58am Wed 6 Mar 13

CaroleBaines says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
Dont be like that Paul.
I might bump into you in Strensall high street.
You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way !
It is ok to threaten fellow posters now on this forum an call them the c-- word and t--- word? Are there no moderators here?
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ![/p][/quote]Dont be like that Paul. I might bump into you in Strensall high street.[/p][/quote]You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way ![/p][/quote]It is ok to threaten fellow posters now on this forum an call them the c-- word and t--- word? Are there no moderators here? CaroleBaines

9:41am Wed 6 Mar 13

TerryYork says...

Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote:
THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same.

I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE.

FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
You're really off your trolley.
[quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]You're really off your trolley. TerryYork

12:42pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Buzz Light-year says...

It is ok to threaten fellow posters now on this forum an call them the c-- word and t--- word? Are there no moderators here?

Seems to be more ok than asking questions about the council.
[quote]It is ok to threaten fellow posters now on this forum an call them the c-- word and t--- word? Are there no moderators here?[/quote] Seems to be more ok than asking questions about the council. Buzz Light-year

12:42pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

CaroleBaines wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
neutral observer 2 wrote:
Scarlet Pimpernel wrote:
gravitydrips wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.
I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL !
Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.
Silly c**t !
Dont be like that Paul. I might bump into you in Strensall high street.
You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way !
It is ok to threaten fellow posters now on this forum an call them the c-- word and t--- word? Are there no moderators here?
Note who started namecalling and using threats.
"Bit of a slimeball really"


"I might bump into you in Strensall high street"
[quote][p][bold]CaroleBaines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]neutral observer 2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scarlet Pimpernel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gravitydrips[/bold] wrote: THREE FLOORS of flats in York city centre not profitable? Who does Mr Reeves think he's kidding? If these things go for rent, I bet the rental value per flat would easily exceed £1000 per month. This is an absolute goldmine.[/p][/quote]I expect that Mr Reeves will either give them away, or allow tenants to stay there rent-free. More should do the same. I believe that everyone has a right to a roof over their heads and should be given housing for free. Free housing for all is my motto. Anyone who has a second home should give it away. Housebuilders should use all their land and cash to build houses for free. Houses will then have no value at all, and the word 'AFFORDABLE' will no longer apply to housing. It will be like tha NHS, but, even better, you pay nothing and get it for FREE. FREE HOUSING FOR ALL ![/p][/quote]Bit of a slimeball really. Because you refuse to accept the world has turned. You still think you its acceptable to hold those who can afford the least to pay you a £1225/per sq ft profit on each unit. Over the past several years prior to passing all the cash to your Tory banker mates. People were allowed to self cert. , which allowed your greed to be satisfied by inflating house prices. No one could afford them then and still cant. You still appear to be unable to explain who is going to buy your luxury shoe boxs and how someone who earns £40k a year will pay for it. Nevermind someone on minimum wages.[/p][/quote]Silly c**t ![/p][/quote]Dont be like that Paul. I might bump into you in Strensall high street.[/p][/quote]You better not, for your own good. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep out of my way ![/p][/quote]It is ok to threaten fellow posters now on this forum an call them the c-- word and t--- word? Are there no moderators here?[/p][/quote]Note who started namecalling and using threats. [quote] "Bit of a slimeball really" [/quote] [quote] "I might bump into you in Strensall high street" [/quote] Scarlet Pimpernel

12:44pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
It is ok to threaten fellow posters now on this forum an call them the c-- word and t--- word? Are there no moderators here?
Seems to be more ok than asking questions about the council.
'Clot' and 'twit', aren't that offensive ?
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: [quote]It is ok to threaten fellow posters now on this forum an call them the c-- word and t--- word? Are there no moderators here?[/quote] Seems to be more ok than asking questions about the council.[/p][/quote]'Clot' and 'twit', aren't that offensive ? Scarlet Pimpernel

7:08pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Buzz Light-year says...

So....
Why'd ya delete all your Twitter posts and unfollow everyone?
So.... Why'd ya delete all your Twitter posts and unfollow everyone? Buzz Light-year

9:13pm Wed 6 Mar 13

Scarlet Pimpernel says...

Buzz Light-year wrote:
So....
Why'd ya delete all your Twitter posts and unfollow everyone?
Haven't got a clue what you are talking about ? Never had a twitter thing !
[quote][p][bold]Buzz Light-year[/bold] wrote: So.... Why'd ya delete all your Twitter posts and unfollow everyone?[/p][/quote]Haven't got a clue what you are talking about ? Never had a twitter thing ! Scarlet Pimpernel

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